00:16:43 Devastator: taking a brief nap. IF
PW shows up, tell him I'll be back in an hour for streams.
01:16:46 Devastator: I promised him I'd stream for him today..
01:17:10 ER: he's just being scatterbrained and not showing up here, I think
01:18:46 Devastator: Maybe Sekiro showed up early.
01:18:54 Devastator: or whatever the game he was wanting to play.
01:21:57 Devastator: Hmm.. that might not be the right idea, pan.
01:22:30 Devastator: Saeko just about got gulped up by the hivemind thing. Trying to mind control it should be possible, but it's really powerful that way.
01:22:47 Devastator: Probably better to just try the Senses spell for an actual illusion.
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01:28:37 Piecewise: nah, just thought you'd be on more around 7 my time
01:28:59 Devastator: Yeah, got home early.
01:29:02 Devastator: of course, had to start early.
01:29:33 Piecewise: In any case, sekiro unlocks in roughly 2 hours, so we have till then + time it takes to decrypt or whatever. Gimme dat good shit
01:31:15 Devastator: just need to launch the program and then kill the process after it's launched.
01:31:18 Devastator: then it won't update further.
01:31:48 Piecewise: I found this gif a while ago and thought of
dev
01:32:23 Devastator: I remember that panel.
01:35:19 Piecewise: Nice notepad of math?
01:35:46 ER: I can't buy sekiro right now due to some debit card magic that's beyond my young brain
01:36:22 Piecewise: first everyone agrees to the delusion that paper is worth somethign more than it is
01:36:37 Piecewise: then they don't give you any paper
01:37:08 Piecewise: You know how to get to the DLC
dev?
01:37:18 Piecewise: Also if you're talking, we don't hear it
01:39:31 Piecewise: Did we beat the boss down here?
01:40:09 Piecewise: From the bonfire just head right
01:40:33 Piecewise: drop in bosses often don't have fog doors
01:40:38 Piecewise: since you can't get out anyways
01:42:07 Piecewise: Insert initial D music here as wolf does sick drifts
01:43:04 Piecewise: takes a lot of energy to zip around like that
01:43:53 ER: how can I get people to give me more paper?
01:44:12 Piecewise: You can perform services for them
01:44:22 Piecewise: alternatively, take it from them by force
01:45:26 Piecewise: They're tiny pine trees
dev
01:45:44 ER: why can't I just go into a cave to murder some slimes and gold flies out of them
01:46:03 Piecewise: you can do that by selling the remains of the animals you murder
01:46:45 Piecewise: You can't do sif tactics on this wolf. He does sick drifts
01:46:45 ER: is that actually profitable nowadays?
01:46:57 Piecewise: You can sell furs though
dev
01:47:11 Piecewise: (
dev says its illegal to sell game meat)
01:47:23 Piecewise: Sif tactics are stand under big dog and stab he belly
01:47:40 Piecewise: (Or her belly, in sif case)
01:48:14 Piecewise: Boop him in the snoot
01:48:25 Piecewise: and tell him he's a bad dog
01:49:20 Piecewise: Don't stand in the ice breath
01:49:53 Piecewise: You're running around in your little tights and your leather shirt
01:52:15 Piecewise: You're using those guard breaks well
01:52:38 Piecewise: This is an optional boss by the way, there's another deeper in the dlc a different route
01:53:03 ER: all dlc bosses are optional
01:53:08 Piecewise: You could also guard with your sword
01:53:24 Piecewise: Also doesn't bethro usually die in one hit?
01:54:27 Piecewise: Xeno's paradox says you technically have unlimited time to plan your moves here
01:55:14 Piecewise: Going for big attacks might be more difficult than just a normal swing
01:56:12 Piecewise: It is, you just have to hit his legs not his face
01:56:31 Piecewise: in any case, valor heart is his weapon
01:56:52 Piecewise: press the two handed button and you can see the moveset in completeness its pretty neat
01:57:00 Piecewise: it also has guard frames as part of the hit
01:57:16 Piecewise: you just have to bonfire out
01:58:23 Piecewise: Look at your bonfire list for the dlc
01:58:38 Piecewise: It should be the fire just before the cathedral one?
02:00:24 Piecewise: outside this building is a town
02:00:46 Piecewise: if you follow the path forward from the building, keep a look on your right for a path that leads off
02:00:59 Piecewise: should be among some buildings
02:02:19 Piecewise: Basically as soon as you saw the guy start killing, look towards the right
02:03:09 Piecewise:
Dev's bloodlust got the best of him
02:04:46 Piecewise: up the ladder near throwy uppy man
02:05:45 Piecewise: if you want itmes, you can explore the rooftop areas but the path is to that open door in the tower
02:07:22 Piecewise: then down into the building near the church
02:07:39 Piecewise: if a man starts yelling at you and slow walking, you're in the right place
02:08:14 Piecewise: the building you thought was the church is where to drop down to
02:08:37 Piecewise: the one you took the ladder down from was the church
02:08:59 Piecewise: yes that building with round front
02:11:25 Piecewise: Out skilled ya on that poke
02:11:49 Piecewise: straight forward, look for switch
02:11:55 Piecewise: no, you never killed him before
02:14:32 Piecewise: you can open that gate now too
02:15:13 Piecewise: Ok...now this part is hard to guide
02:15:23 Piecewise: its just a big open forest with tons of dudes
02:15:56 Piecewise: you're basically just wanting to keep going up the hill
02:16:06 Piecewise: and eventually finding a cave
02:18:03 Piecewise: its quite a bit up the hill
02:18:09 Piecewise: past several very large fellows
02:18:51 Piecewise: Protip: hit the demon till he dies
02:19:39 Piecewise: Like I said, there's a lot of them
02:22:59 Piecewise: That way with those big guys in the pit is not the right way
02:23:34 Piecewise: its to the left of where you drop into it
02:24:54 Piecewise: there are set numbers
02:25:11 Piecewise: this is the right way by the way
02:25:43 Piecewise: arrows explode after they land
02:26:40 Piecewise: the one behind him fires arrows
02:26:53 Piecewise: see the big tree leaning?
02:27:26 Piecewise: its a bit down, on the item path there
02:28:06 Piecewise: go down there and fell the next one
02:28:12 Piecewise: we're opening a shortcut path
02:29:28 Piecewise: That bridge is actually the one you crossed already
02:29:44 Piecewise: Look for a fly who is just staring at the wall
02:30:33 Piecewise: they spit maggots on you that suck your blood
02:30:44 Piecewise: if you have torch you can equip it to remove that
02:31:04 Piecewise: Burn them off, mgs style
02:31:37 Piecewise: there's an elevator in there
02:31:55 Piecewise: that you never sent down
02:32:43 Piecewise: head up, look for the first downed tree
02:33:07 Piecewise: you can cross over and lower the elevator
02:34:45 Piecewise: alright, now you should be able to call it when you respawn
02:34:53 Piecewise: and the path to the cave is a straight shot
02:36:21 Piecewise: Now look for a thing to turn
02:36:35 Piecewise: down in the area the hidden wall leads to
02:36:58 Piecewise: its basically straight forward from the door, behind one of the pillars
02:37:57 Piecewise: A torch would be good, if you have one
02:38:43 Piecewise: torch would also help with the dark
02:39:17 Piecewise: its on one of the pillars in the room, not along the wall. There is also one hidden wall here, though its very obvious, it looks like a bricked up door
02:40:55 Piecewise: nah is fine. I'mma use the bathroom, if you find the crank, you can get out of here and go across the area upstairs to the otherside. There's a stairway up from there which leads to a bonfire
02:41:05 Piecewise: The boss is unlocked by turning the crank
02:45:22 Piecewise: Just run along the wall, you'll find one or the other
02:47:00 Piecewise: You can just teleport to the church if you want
02:47:15 Piecewise: thats the bonfire we'd get to this way anyways
02:47:35 Piecewise: Nah, it was to get that door open
02:47:51 Piecewise: so we can go stick a sword in her for good this time
02:50:03 Piecewise: you can talk to him round the front
02:51:43 Piecewise: *Drowned out
dev complaints in the distance*
02:53:08 Piecewise: Its not really cryptic, but you murdered everyone who could explain it so....eh
02:54:04 Piecewise: Basically, if you had talked to people and read stuff, it wouldn't be cryptic
02:54:13 Piecewise: its cryptic because you have no context
02:55:00 Piecewise: *Increased drowned out
dev complaining in the distance*
02:56:10 Piecewise: See, there's the flame he was talking about~
02:56:55 Piecewise: Fight her again, but this time with her dad
02:57:23 Piecewise: YO I HEARD YOU BEEN TALKING SHIT ABOUT MY MAIN LADY
02:57:54 Piecewise: They have a shared health bar though
02:57:58 Piecewise: so you can damage either
02:59:45 Piecewise: There's an NPC companion you can bring in with you for free by the way
02:59:49 Piecewise: don't even need to be human
03:00:00 Piecewise: he only shows up in the second part of the fight too
03:00:14 Piecewise: he doesn't speeeeeak
03:04:28 Piecewise: By the way, when she does her hop back, go invisible, she's actually jumping in a direction after going invisible. look at the plume of snow rraised by the jump and you can see if she jumped to one side or the other, or if she jumped straight. Straight jump means she's behind you. If you run over and find her, you get free hits in
03:05:20 Piecewise: Have you noticed her scythe is sharp and that you want not to be hit with it?
03:06:20 Piecewise:
Dev complaining about how he nearly got beat to death with a soup bowl
03:06:50 Piecewise: NPC is there for a reason bro
03:06:57 Piecewise: don't even need to be embered to use them
03:07:08 Piecewise: makes it at least 2 on 2
03:09:09 Piecewise: You think these guys are game of thrones fans?
03:09:15 Piecewise: because of all the fire and ice and all
03:10:04 Piecewise: its a song of fire and ice
03:11:53 Piecewise: I'm reading all the agatha christie hercule poirot novels right now.
03:14:36 Piecewise: I don't think thats ever happened in the ones I've read?
03:15:24 Piecewise: People tend to be killed for...semi-reasonable reasons but they do often have the murderer have a remarkable amount of forethought
03:15:48 Piecewise: ie planning shit out in a way that needs like 5 people to act in JUST the right way or it all falls apart
03:18:14 Piecewise: The one called "13 at dinner" involved the use of a body double, planted drugs, faked items, a letter torn in JUST the right way, and about 4 false leads
03:19:15 Piecewise: symbol of avarice IS a giant chest on your head
03:19:22 Piecewise: makes sense why its heavy
03:21:42 Piecewise: Sure you don't wanna try the NPC?
03:22:38 Piecewise: Well, the sign is literally right next to the stairway down if you ever feel like it
03:23:48 Piecewise: It might let you beat this part
03:23:52 Piecewise: There's a third phase.
03:25:27 Piecewise: phase three is no joke
03:29:31 Piecewise: Father Ariandel is pretty good with that bowl
03:29:37 Piecewise: And he's still strapped to a chair
03:31:53 Piecewise: You didn't do bad there. Got combo'd and lost a lot of estus but after that you were getting her
03:37:07 ER: not getting enough views,
dev? ;P
03:38:42 Piecewise: look for a while sign on the ground
03:38:46 Piecewise: to the left of the stairs down
03:43:52 Piecewise: the devs give you that guy because they realize this thing is pretty tough for most people
03:47:09 Piecewise: Its a good thing her heal spell takes forever
03:53:10 Piecewise: You can backstab her by the way.
03:53:16 Piecewise: it is POSSIBLE to backstab her
03:53:22 Piecewise: if you can or not I'm not sure
03:54:21 Piecewise: if you didn't get grabbed you would have done it
03:54:32 Piecewise: assuming you didn't also get slapped up or something
03:56:38 Piecewise: I didn't quite understand that
03:57:11 Piecewise: You always fight them
03:57:16 Piecewise: well, unless you skip them
04:05:30 Piecewise: the slave knight is actually the guy that dragged you into this painting
04:06:38 Piecewise: So, how many more tries? Or you just wanna go till you get it?
04:12:29 Piecewise: just thought the mafia finally caught up with you
04:15:20 Piecewise: I assume mic is off because you can't talk right now because room mates or whatevers
04:15:50 Devastator: can't talk with three people at once.
04:20:58 Piecewise: (please don't die in the time between now and when you get this)
04:24:02 Devastator: Just not many clean attack chances.
04:25:27 Devastator: dammit, I was making those rolls earlier.
04:29:36 ER: let's see, fighting super scyth chick?
04:31:10 ER: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
04:31:58 Piecewise: *Fez appears from nowhere*
04:32:35 Piecewise: she does have three phases
04:32:45 Piecewise: she dual wields scythes
04:32:55 Piecewise: and she can teleport and go invisible
04:33:27 Piecewise: a scythe is just a katana on a stick after all
04:33:48 Piecewise:
Dev either gets to the last stage and dies near the end or gets wrecked in 30 seconds
04:34:21 ER: easy stuff hard, hard stuff hard
04:37:08 Devastator: That's Beethro,
PW.
04:40:05 Devastator: and I shouldn't have dodged into the corner.
04:40:12 Devastator: Also, did you catch the failed backstab earlier?
04:44:59 Devastator: yeah, left her in some kinda failed animation.
04:56:32 Piecewise: its usually not running out of estus that gets ya though
04:56:38 Piecewise: its getting spammed or grabbed
04:58:43 Devastator: Don't get one shot.
04:58:46 Devastator: Don't be in one shot range.
04:58:59 Devastator: get that extra attack in after the first two hits in the combo.
04:59:30 Devastator: so what does an extra heir of fire do?
04:59:34 Devastator: I already did those.
04:59:58 Piecewise: Nothing really. Killing her lets you enter the next dlc but...well you don't have that
05:00:12 Piecewise: I haven't bought it for you yet~
05:00:12 Devastator: That's probably gonna be it.
05:00:17 Devastator: don't you have a game to try yet?
05:00:32 Piecewise: was waiting for the boss to die~
05:00:33 Devastator: and lemme know the quality is shit like that.
05:00:35 Devastator: I'll try to improve it.
05:00:59 Devastator: but I want to bug you about giant birds.
05:01:31 Devastator: Are they easier when you can block?
05:01:34 Devastator: or use super attacks?
05:02:33 Piecewise: what birds, what block, what super attacks what
05:03:00 Piecewise: Well blocking makes everything easier generally
05:03:01 Devastator: block = not blocking, super attacks = ones that use mana, and giant birds = that gryphon.
05:03:17 Piecewise: depends on the weapon art but usually not
05:03:37 Devastator: Nah, not much new. Wanna see the die rolls to know if I should use temp spells, but it can wait.
05:03:44 Devastator: Nope, that was just steam updating.
05:03:48 Devastator: why the stream was crap.
05:04:34 Piecewise: Nah, I'm used to it being choppy. I can still tell whats going on
05:05:08 Devastator: Well, it doesn't have to be.. I knew it was coming, should have let it update yesterday.
05:12:02 Devastator: But yeah, go get your samurai game. Giant catbird can wait.
05:12:12 Devastator: lemme know if it's as good as you expected in a couple days when you wake up again.
05:13:14 ER: according to my task manager
05:13:36 ER: my laptop GPU is not strong enough to understand Sekiro's true form
05:15:02 ER: maybe it's trying to use my integrated graphics or some dumb thing like that
05:17:26 Devastator: disintegrated graphics are second best.
05:17:43 Devastator: Best are segregated graphics.
05:20:36 Devastator: do you do streaming, dubs?
05:20:40 Devastator: I wouldn't mind watching for a bit.
05:20:44 Devastator: don't have to come in first thing tomorrow.
05:23:50 ER: it sure LOOOOOKS like it was using my integrated by default
05:24:22 ER: update my drivers and such too
05:36:43 ER: yeah, so it was using my integrated graphics...
05:37:01 ER: I switched it to using an actual graphics card...
05:37:29 ER: still using 100% at low settings, but I'll take it for now
05:43:05 ER: the framerate is... well, stable! :P
05:46:17 Devastator: infinitely times better.
05:46:49 ER: this means that my graphics card is infinitely good
05:58:59 ER: followed by STAB IN THE NECk
06:15:05 Devastator: Shoggy delayed due to death in the family.
06:19:05 ER: guy who is better at sword than me sliced off my arm
06:24:37 ER: got past the "intro" part, now I have my sword and my magic arm and they drop me at the hub area.
06:24:50 ER: so... time to put it away for tonight
06:37:04 Piecewise: Night for me as well
06:37:28 Piecewise: beat the first miniboss in the first area
06:37:45 ER: now I've gotta stare at vampire the masquerade bloodline 2 though
06:37:48 Piecewise: didn't die to him once but I did get the drop on him
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06:47:29 ER: "brings the ambitions of the first game to life"
06:47:42 ER: now that's an ambitious statement in itself :P
06:49:22 Devastator: because V:TM was weird.
06:51:27 ER: the game that VTM wanted to be was not the game that it was fully able to be.
06:52:12 ER: Paradox promise to make a game that is what the original game wanted to be, rather than a sequel to the game that the original was.
06:52:36 ER: You can see how this is both exciting and concerning to me?
06:53:12 Devastator: Because what VTW wanted to be wasn't terribly good, either?
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14:37:33 Piecewise: I'll leave this open in case anything happens or people want to get hold of me, just ping me
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18:38:00 syv: "Finally, I've got everything done, I can go play Sekiro!"
18:38:20 syv: "Unpacking. Time Remaining: 2 hours."
18:56:28 syv: "THIS AGREEMENT IS SUBJECT TO [...] A WAIVER OF CLASS-ACTION RIGHTS"
18:56:51 syv: Helpfully, this is in all caps, presumably so it's still readable despite the small font.
18:58:14 syv: Later: "READ THIS SECTION CAREFULLY. IT MAY SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS". I only skimmed, but it says that all rights to file a class-action or any other representative lawsuit are forfeited. So "MAY" isn't exactly correct. Oh well.
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19:55:16 midnightjaguar: Aww. Just missed
Syv.
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20:10:20 syv: Not as good as DaS so far.
20:12:08 syv: Yes. It's called Dark Souls.
20:13:34 er: Also I can get my polearm fun from styling on polearm fools by stepping on their weapon.
20:13:48 syv: Haven't found it yet. Or any polearm fools. :(
20:13:58 syv: Apparently there's a penalty for repeatedly dying.
20:17:43 er: (I died twice in the tutorial)
20:18:23 syv: I didn't die at all, but I ran past the boss and four mooks.
20:18:54 syv: I've died a lot to this one stupid samurai general, and just died AGAIN because there's apparently a timer on RB...
20:20:13 syv: Not sure how far you've gotten, and that mechanic is almost spoilery?
20:20:23 syv: ...Meh, no, it's in the name. Resurrection after death.
20:21:07 syv: It's easy to take half his health with a plunge attack, but I can't kill him the rest of the way after. So I figured I'd die, let him walk back, then rez and plunge him again.
20:21:28 syv: ...But then I died for real because I didn't rez fast enough.
20:23:10 er: It's also in every trailer and I've watched a bunch of sekiro videos before release.
20:24:33 er: Yeah, so I likely know more than you do about game mechanics. :v
20:27:26 syv: The speech in this game is so silly.
20:29:03 syv: Heh. This girl has an animation where she feels the protagonist's face, but she activated it while he was standing five feet away.
20:30:21 er: What speech language are you using?
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20:33:18 syv: I mean more in the sense of what they're saying; the VAs are pretty decent.
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20:52:21 syv: So apparently you have to HOLD X for a period of time to loot people. So for awhile now I've just been looting nobody, not that they were dropping nothing. -.-
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21:01:41 er: Actually I'll be gone a little longer!
22:00:10 syv: Oh hell, you can swim in this game!
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22:45:06 ER: pressing R2 without any prosthetic tools equipped is kinda like a shrug
23:11:18 syv:
Piecewise! Any tips for the bigass drunk with a murakumo?
23:13:25 Piecewise: you found the npc near him that helps you?
23:14:24 Piecewise: I recommend killing all the mobs then going and activating the npc to help with the boss
23:14:48 Piecewise: split his attention, also oil and fire to proc burning works well
23:16:14 Piecewise: Focus on his health, then parry once he's weakened
23:16:42 Piecewise: easier to break posture when the enemy is weak
23:16:50 ER: killed the first miniboss, only dying once! :P
23:19:10 syv: Hadn't even tried because lolhueg
23:19:30 ER: pretty sure this is a game where you can parry any old shit
23:20:55 Piecewise: I'm into the castle, going off in lots of directions back and forth
23:21:19 Piecewise: I wandered into a cave and saw a thing that was clearly bad juju and wandered back out
23:21:28 Piecewise: second time thats happend
23:21:40 Piecewise: but yeah, perfect blocks my dude
23:22:23 syv: I like the undying training dummy dude.
23:22:39 syv: Stab him repeatedly in the head "A satisfying match."
23:23:08 Piecewise: Did you find the flame vent
sy?
23:23:21 Piecewise: Its in the area before poison man
23:23:45 syv: Yes. I just forgot to install it. Just did.
23:26:40 Piecewise: Oil plus that = !!BOSS!!
23:27:47 ER: ...I'm disappointed that Wolf doesn't sheath his sword after beating up undying
23:30:32 syv: Well, got close. Ran out of silver bullet things.
23:32:15 Piecewise: Man, madam butterfly is hard
23:33:05 syv: I'd assume a butterfly flies.
23:35:03 Piecewise: she's got summoned adds and a giant homing attack like daughter of the cosmos
23:35:19 Piecewise: and yes, constant suriken spam
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23:37:07 ER: jump kick deathblows look super awesome
23:37:26 syv: I just can't figure out how to take them out easily. Flanking and parrying can kill them, but are slow and unreliable.
23:41:56 ER: just saw an enemy casually walk off a cliff
23:45:28 syv: Huh. And when I try to manually force people off cliffs, they're saved by an invisible wall. -.-
23:46:31 Piecewise: destroys their shield in one hit
23:47:00 Piecewise: Alternatively, stealth kills
23:47:08 Piecewise: I beat lady butterfly
23:48:31 syv: I've certainly not found the axe.
23:48:42 syv: Stealth kills are the best, yes.
23:50:38 Piecewise: Have you found the little house area full of roosters?
23:50:53 Piecewise: Alternatively, the two bandits knocking on a door telling people to come out?
23:51:22 syv: Yes, I found the area full of giant black cocks.
23:51:50 Piecewise: The ax is in that area. If you walk on the fences round there you should be able to eavesdrop on two bandits talking about not stealing from the shrine
23:51:59 Piecewise: the shrine right in front of them has the ax
23:54:42 ER: giant snake moulting hanging on a tree
23:56:50 Piecewise: there's are a few prostetic tools that are quite hidden
23:57:02 Piecewise: there's one after mr.poison that is like...hidden x3
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