01:50:55 Devastator: Hail to thee, Camp Krusty, by the shores of big snake lake..
01:52:35 Devastator: Hmm, cult post soon.
01:52:43 Devastator: I get to find out just how much firebreath we're talking about.
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02:28:38 Devastator: It seems the princess has levels in a class called 'Princess'
02:28:57 Devastator: It does make sense, yes.
02:28:59 ER: ...that's probably nesessary
02:29:58 ER: sad that she's not a level 10 sociopath or something ;P
02:30:01 Devastator: Well, it makes the smile-picking scene make more sense.
02:30:09 Devastator: Doesn't list an exact level.
02:30:14 Devastator: Could be level 10 or so, though.
02:30:26 Devastator: standard human cap seems to be 20 exactly.
02:30:43 Devastator: 1/300 or so humans get a higher cap.
02:31:04 Devastator: Maybe Princess levels make you crazy if you have too many of them.
02:34:20 Devastator: I don't see any particular reason she couldn't be capped out with 10 in each.
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03:35:37 midnightjaguar:
ER you should update tachell
03:35:59 midnightjaguar: Perhaps they just applied the princess labels and it should read Yandere
03:38:08 Devastator: heya
midnightjaguar.
03:38:21 Devastator: It could just be disassociated.
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03:46:29 Devastator: too bad, was about to link him something.
03:51:11 Piecewise__: This current c++ program is giving me issues
03:51:48 Piecewise__: yeah, specifically in that the examples the teacher gave us don't really add up
03:52:39 Piecewise__: but really I'm just not sure how I should handle input error
03:52:57 Piecewise__: something about if (cin.fail ()) but not sure how exactly it works.
03:53:26 Devastator:
RC might be a help.
03:55:12 Piecewise__: Yeah, wasn't expecting IT help, just mumbling to myself
03:55:52 Devastator: "the most horrifying part was that the shoe on the foot he’d kicked with remained spotless."
03:56:24 Devastator: Reading the book's description of Sebas's stroll through that brothel.
03:56:39 Devastator: he just roundhouse kicked someone's head off.
03:57:00 Piecewise__: must always remain dapper
03:57:37 Devastator: Well, now I know where to next spend points in CULT. ;-p
03:57:49 Devastator: (max strength to d12, wish for superhuman strength.) ;-p
03:58:35 Piecewise__: And blood repellent suit.
03:59:06 Devastator: Maybe. I think
ER said he wished for superhuman blade skill.
03:59:58 Devastator: although I'd probably want the ability to hide the draconic nature first. But it might come.
04:16:08 Piecewise__: mask and cigarette
04:17:35 Devastator: Yeah. Gotta pay someone else to buy them for me, though.
04:18:09 Devastator: And besides, I somehow don't think that'll be the last dragon-related wish I'll make, should things go long enough.
04:20:13 Devastator: I mean, at some point I'm likely to want to escape, and I don't think wings will fit under a mask.
04:20:55 ER: just wish for freeform shapeshifting, duh ;P
04:21:20 Devastator: I'm worried about critfails for that.
04:21:37 Devastator: That sounds like a bad thing to fail.
04:22:06 Devastator: Also, freeform shapeshifting might be kinda slow. I'd rather just have two forms and a toggle.
04:25:53 Devastator: Then there's the clothing issue. I mean, it isn't a problem now, but shirts might get expensive..
04:26:08 Devastator: (in b4 he sets his clothes on fire this turn.)
04:28:02 Devastator: ..Is that a nazi lightning dragon this time?
04:28:23 Devastator: They seem to be having good luck with the lightning tapping. I'd though that would have reduced since the party freed one of the lightning-themed captives.
04:28:32 Devastator: Hmm, maybe it's attacking the tower.
04:31:51 Devastator: Also, Sebas basically directly granted knight-kid an immediate level through that training. Or, if not that, some kinda cross-class skill sorta thingy.
04:33:08 ER: decent reward for probably-dying unless you have strength of will :P
04:34:21 Devastator: someone to live for, really.
04:34:37 Devastator: If the kid had nothing but strength of will, it probably wouldn't have worked.
04:35:05 ER: does that mean that he'll die instantly when he realizes that she's probably not healthy for him?
04:37:23 Devastator: I don't think so, but he might undergo a crisis similar to Brain.
04:37:50 Devastator: Which could be fun, the Princess trying to level to keep improving her mask before Climb can make that save. ;-p
04:38:17 Devastator: Also, apparently her name is 'Renner', which is just wrong.
04:38:20 Devastator: You have a princess.
04:39:59 Devastator: Oh good, it does get to gameplay.
04:40:26 Devastator: fuck that motion blur, though.
04:42:16 Piecewise__: only 4 minutes till suka bylat
04:42:44 Devastator: official trailer, guys, get it edited.
04:46:24 Devastator: Some interesting looks, but I'm not seeing any gamplay.
04:47:10 Devastator: That's also the stupidest looking shotgun since Daikatana.
04:50:33 Devastator: Too early to tell, but doesn't look like much fun to me. Just seems visuals-centric.
04:51:15 ER: look like, uh, death stranding trailers
04:51:34 ER: with a boring shooter attached
04:51:57 Piecewise__: I'm interested in it because its not like anything I've ever seen. I'd be ok with a generic bioshock style shooter if its unique in setting and look
04:53:26 Devastator: ..I don't know. The spinny balls seem standard, the russian base seems standard, the robots are like the ones in that Will Smith movie a decade ago, and the Fallout series is running again..
04:54:00 Devastator: There are some interesting things, but those aren't the ones we get to see any of.
04:54:27 Piecewise__: those mustache robots are standard sure, but the others are pretty unique if you've seen any other trailers
04:54:44 Piecewise__: also there's weird STALKEReqsue stuff going on
04:54:57 ER: Seems like the stuff you run into is properly weird, but it's missing any way to interact with the weird shit except shooting at it.
04:55:01 Piecewise__: dunno if you noticed the mounds of water or other physics defying stuff
04:55:08 Devastator: and I'm going to be facepalming all day if it ends up being 'robots powered by wind energy' which is kinda the topic of the day, and dating things heavier than anything else.
04:55:15 Devastator: Yeah, I noticed those. Some of that seems interesting.
04:55:35 Piecewise__: I'm interested in it but I'm still waiting to see how it turns out
04:55:51 Devastator: personally, though, it's always about the gameplay.
04:56:06 Devastator: I mean, weird stuff is good, yeah? But it rarely lasts forever.
04:56:52 ER: I'd like to see a game like this where there are problems which can be solved by shooting them and problems which can't be solved by shooting them, and you don't actually know what anything does until you try. :P
04:57:56 ER: it's nice when "what the HECK is that!?" is an actual question.
04:58:25 Devastator: I'd like to see a game like that where when you run up to the spinny balls, you can go to the wall and flip a powerbox to shut them off.
04:59:13 Piecewise__: Like I said, I'd like a game thats actually like Roadside picnic
04:59:20 Piecewise__: STALKER wasn't really that
04:59:25 Devastator: Nah.. just one that builds functional areas for people to fight in.
04:59:54 Devastator: Instead of getting level designers to make somewhere, get engineers to design a place.
05:00:26 Devastator: So it'll look normal, but for players it'll be subtly wrong, which will cause some more subtle psychological effects.
05:02:41 Piecewise__: the problem is that functional real places are often very boring
05:02:53 Piecewise__: a hall with a bunch of doors and square rooms
05:03:28 Piecewise__: Doom maps aren't exactly the sort of thing your average architect would throw together
05:03:30 Devastator: There's some truth to that, but you can take advantage of that, by tuning enemies.
05:03:54 Piecewise__: using real doom wad's for MOOK by the way
05:03:57 ER: you end up making a game where if the player has half a brain and does things logically, they skip 70% of the enviroments you've built. :P
05:04:12 Devastator: That's good, though.
05:04:17 Devastator: Oh, does that mean there's secret rooms?
05:04:35 Piecewise__: not if you're a level designer weeping about people avoiding all your stuff
05:04:41 ER: unf unf unf unf unf unf unf unf unf unf unf unf
05:05:40 Devastator: I missed watching the people walk into the water, didn't I? ;-p
05:06:16 ER: I'd like to see if you could make a roguelike procedural level generator which uses the logic of a real place.
05:06:33 ER: Then you're just wasting the computer's time, not the designer's time. ;P
05:07:56 Devastator: Solution has 35 levels making her a hideously dangerous slime. And then 10 levels of Shoggoth added onto those.
05:08:09 Devastator: And then some class levels to add some variety.
05:09:46 Devastator: Hobby: Staring at Kline.
05:12:20 Devastator: Also, it says {ordinary} after both Princess and Actress, which is subtly disappointing.
05:13:03 Devastator: Might flip out if she loses her senpai, though..
05:13:27 Devastator: I suppose there's a class for NPCs, and a class for combat princesses.
05:14:02 ER: she was plotting his death because he could be revived, remember? :P
05:14:31 Devastator: It's more 'I'll murder anyone who doesn't like my senpai' so far in the books.
05:14:36 Devastator: "I’ll kill her. I’ll kill this woman, too. I’ll kill everyone who looks down on my Climb."
05:15:00 Devastator: Still calling him Kline, though.
05:20:59 Devastator: Evileye has levels in 'Vampire Princess'
05:21:44 Devastator: ..and can hang with the 13 heroes.
05:23:07 Devastator: Yeah. Her winning a fight with a maid wasn't unbelievable.
05:23:45 ER: classic immortal vampire loli
05:24:23 Devastator: although, to be fair, she's only like 200ish years old.
05:24:28 Devastator: way less than most vampire lolis.
05:24:42 Devastator: Probably because she doesn't seem quite as young. ;-p
05:30:10 Devastator: I've heard it can happen.
05:41:33 Devastator: *post cancelled, playing in snow.
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05:43:32 Devastator: enjoy. Forum games can wait a day.
05:43:57 Devastator: I wouldn't be here if there was an aurora.
05:58:21 Devastator: ..Oooh, that explains something.
05:58:53 ER: this explains everything! ;P
05:58:58 Devastator: Albedo was reprogrammed to love Momonaga. ..buuut, he changes his name.
05:59:24 Devastator: It's explicitly stated in the book.
05:59:28 Devastator: That's why she said ridiculous.
06:00:10 Devastator: Although I don't think she'd mind if she was boning the skeleton, and using that as a pet name.
06:01:47 Devastator: Although I do get annoyed by it sometimes, I will be disappointed if Albedo never makes a proper ambush.
06:02:29 Devastator: I'm sure they have an item somewhere that would let her bypass the undead's immunity to charm magic or something. ;-p
06:02:58 ER: welp, just mind control him
06:06:12 Devastator: I think that's another reason why I like it. Once, I had a guild like that.
06:07:47 Devastator: Not the usual kind of munchkins.
06:07:52 Devastator: We had.. soft power.
06:10:41 Devastator: In a very real way, we decided what kind of behavior in game was acceptable and unacceptable, and used that power to essentially prevent wars from occuring.
06:12:41 Devastator: We also had a firm rule preventing the players in half the gameworld from establishing tollbooths. As a result of that decision and our enforcement of such, that part got much richer than the other half.
06:13:43 Devastator: Anyway, we won three major wars defending our rules and establishing our power, and then used our soft power and reputation to change the game for the better.
06:13:48 Devastator: And it annoyed the fuck out of the GMs.
06:14:15 Devastator: They ended up banning all of us a few months before kicking off the scheduled inter-faction war.
06:14:38 Devastator: ..which was probably necessary, because even though we weren't the strongest, we probalby would have turned that from an even battle into a curbstomp.
06:14:54 Devastator: That said, blaming us for starting it in the storyline was a very low blow.
06:16:22 Devastator: ..I do wish they'd at least had let us win the fourth war we were fighting, but since our opponents in that one, like the previous two, were GM-backed, it was probably too much to ask for.
06:20:09 Devastator: Ahh, that group was a triumph of dedication, clear thinking, good planning, and fair dealing. Great bunch of people, and we were all on the same page mentally.
06:20:28 Devastator: we were all survivors of the pre-release MoO3 community, for one.
06:21:26 Devastator: And we had the remarkable idea of letting other people get rich off us, so rookies, junior players, and random people could make tons of money saving our more elite players time.
06:22:17 Devastator: ..which meant we were the only group that didn't need to babysit our stuff for it to run properly and for money to continue coming in, which gave all our fighters a great deal of freedom.'
06:22:52 Devastator: Most other guilds basically had to keep the significant majority of their members as low-ranking near slaves, who made a few pennies keeping up their leader's cash flow.
06:23:24 Devastator: ..in our case, random newbies could do ours, because we paid them about two weeks cash flow for them for half a day's work.
06:24:22 Devastator: That lead to our veteran players having about twice as much time to do whatever they wanted, as opposed to everyone else, and whoever was running trading for us, made an absolute mint.
06:25:41 Devastator: Plus nobody wanted to compete with us, because anyone trying to muscle in on us had to deliberately choose to make half the money they would from a normal building, because our clan members would only do chores for clan buildings, and random newbies would choose the ones that actually pay them, which cut the building owner's profits a lot. So they would go elsewhere to build.
06:26:19 Devastator: I have no idea why nobody else figured out how it worked.
06:26:27 Devastator: all we were doing was playing the game as it was designed.
06:27:15 Devastator: Good bunch of guys, though. I can't think of any other group where we couldn't get recruits because people were too intimidated to ask.
06:29:05 Devastator: It was fine. We could still recruit ourselves, by picking out specific people and making offers.
06:29:37 Devastator: More than once it lead to people saying that they wanted to join, but they were too scared to ask.
06:29:41 ER: I like, really don't like MMOs
06:29:52 ER: or most multiplayer games really.
06:29:57 Devastator: ..But this was different. We were good friends.
06:30:10 Devastator: I'm not much of a joiner, but most of us had survived the terrible experience of Moo3.
06:30:18 Devastator: That brings people together.
06:33:31 Devastator: I can get not liking groups. I'm not much for them. But that was the exception for me.
07:10:25 Devastator: “Yes. I only caught a glimpse, so I assumed it was perhaps a figment of my imagination. But her hollow eyes suggested she didn’t care about the world one bit, that she despised everything.” Raeven shrugged as if to ward off the sudden chill in the room. “But after a while, I saw her again, and she acted like the child she was, so I thought I must have seen wrong… Your Royal...
07:10:27 Devastator: ...Highness…I wanted...
07:10:28 Devastator: ...to ask if I have indeed been cleverly deceived all this time.”
07:11:17 Devastator: Ooh, yeah, things gonna be bad if she loses her Senpai.
08:21:23 Devastator: pretty good firebreath.
08:21:36 Devastator: Oop, gotta add 'examine the crates for traps' to the list.
08:22:43 Devastator: ..Yeah, probably worth the issues, that, although I still want to know what stats it's based on.
08:28:25 Devastator: well, looks like swole guy is a good guy to get in a fistfight with.
08:36:55 ER: Got a six sentance sophia turn from
syv. Which you might gather is a bit shorter than usual. So maybe it's time to wrap that story up for now.
08:46:56 Devastator: I hope he's not burning himself out.
08:47:34 ER: ah, he's shifting schedueles now I think.
08:48:33 Devastator: mmm, always a pain.
08:48:47 Devastator: any thoughts in CULT? If you want to keep the eye packed away, I'm fine with that.
08:49:06 Devastator: Can probably find something to stab here, though.
08:51:35 ER: mostly just gotta take alokk around for now
08:51:56 ER: that typo indicates that I should sleep
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