01:06:08 Devastator: Apparently there's a popular anime right now featuring Nazi magical girls.
01:12:34 Piecewise__: I know there was that one
01:12:48 Piecewise__: which was about german soldier magical girl
01:13:17 Piecewise__: what anime is this, this season?
01:19:10 ER: I do enjoy that I inadvertantly make a character build which works very well as a necromancer
01:21:43 Devastator: I haven't seen it. I must be speculating wrong.
01:24:21 Devastator: Maybe I should have made that character instead. ;-p
01:25:39 Piecewise__: I mean...she's actually a middle age cutthroat business man banished to be in that body by god
01:25:58 Piecewise__: who appears to enjoy taunting and messing with him because he's a professed anti-theist
01:26:23 Piecewise__: its a very odd series
01:26:28 Piecewise__: has some fun stuff though.
01:27:38 ER: worse bodies to get, really
01:29:00 Devastator: And.. of course, awesome unique powers. ;-p
01:29:24 Devastator: Too bad. Was hoping for a groundhog's day loop there.
01:30:07 Devastator: I'm okay with that. I'd just like to see it be hard..
01:30:31 Devastator: I mean, we have overlord and one punch man right now for unstoppable powers.
01:32:37 ER: see, I like shit that's too powerful
01:32:51 Devastator: Eh, if it's too powerful it'd be out of control.
01:32:59 Devastator: Doesn't happen that often.
01:33:20 ER: what
syv makes level 3 I just have as base powers. :V
01:34:12 Piecewise__: she has awesome magic powers...but is on the losing side of history
01:34:25 Devastator: This is alt-history.
01:34:31 Devastator: Germans always win in alt-history.
01:35:59 ER: uh, does this game not have the option to run in a window?
01:38:21 ER: PC ports of older games can be interesting.
01:38:29 ER: this isn't THAT old, though...
01:39:20 Piecewise__: Actually
dev she does lose
01:39:27 Piecewise__: the germans lose just like in normal history
01:39:35 Piecewise__: despite her seeing that was happening and trying to stop it
01:40:04 Devastator: Well, that'll definately be an unusual take, then.
01:44:49 Piecewise__: They even have her complaining about shotguns
01:44:57 Piecewise__: just like the real germans in WWI
01:45:09 Devastator: Can't she just make her gun a shotgun?
01:45:13 Devastator: I mean, that had AoE right there.
01:45:20 Piecewise__: They tried to get them outlawed because they were really effective
01:45:28 Piecewise__: Trench warfare, natch
01:45:45 Devastator: Just gotta have a bubble, then.
01:45:55 Devastator: Or a magic flamethrower.
01:46:25 ER: what kind of monster outlaws shotguns
01:51:02 Devastator: TBH, if she can fly like that, why doesn't she do railway raids?
01:51:08 Devastator: Attack supply lines.
01:51:27 Devastator: no need to get stuck in the trenches, just derail trains and such.
01:51:46 Devastator: I mean, that works if you're okay with suffering some losses.
01:52:00 Devastator: If you have like six people who can do that, that's too risky.
01:52:07 Devastator: ..but so is trench fighting..
01:55:18 Piecewise__: I think the major reason for a lot if it is "Magic people are rare, fragile glass cannons"
01:55:28 Piecewise__: at least her kind of magic
01:55:40 Piecewise__: but she's pretty damn tough
01:59:33 Devastator: (watching other stuff.)
01:59:50 Devastator: Should we watch more overlord tonight?
02:02:02 Piecewise__: I've got my own stuff to watch
02:02:13 Piecewise__: my unwatched folder is several dozen shows
02:06:45 Devastator: ..I didn't think you could carry a WW1 radio.
02:08:01 Devastator: So god literally makes her eyes big and shiny when using magic?
02:09:14 ER: so wait, he was sent back in time?
02:11:20 Devastator: And yeah, impossibly tough as well as magic shield powers, as well as extra offensive abilities.
02:25:41 Devastator: I suppose I can live with that, if the end is failure.
02:35:14 Devastator: So.. is douch-boy giving Ally training during the night?
02:44:41 Devastator: I'm pretty sure the main character would violate the Christmas Truce. ;-p
03:12:43 Piecewise__: Technically he went to a different universe
03:12:59 Piecewise__: one with magic and all
03:27:25 Devastator: How much magic is there? Just like five hundred or so guys per country?
03:30:37 Piecewise__: I think there are a fair amount of people with magic, but some have a lot more
03:31:14 Devastator: so imbalanced and relatively frequent.
03:31:27 Devastator: ..Enough so that it sucks not having any, or enough so that it really sucks?
03:32:54 Piecewise__: Hard to say, but having lots is pretty great
03:33:04 Piecewise__: though it seems they need artifacts or something to make it work
03:33:45 Devastator: so.. consume enough godly artifacts, become new god. Got it. ;-p
03:36:11 Piecewise__: I think its more like they need an object to let them use the magic
03:36:29 Piecewise__: you see it in that clip
03:36:35 Piecewise__: the little red stone broach
03:36:45 Piecewise__: sort of like a wand
03:36:56 Piecewise__: sort of like the fuel tank
03:37:01 Piecewise__: and the items draw off it
03:37:23 Devastator: oh, and that's powered by the person?
03:39:22 Piecewise__: its never totally explained but that seems to be the gist of it
03:39:34 Devastator: It's the 'boiler' so to speak.
03:39:57 Devastator: turns the magic energy into useful energy.
03:42:32 Devastator: and the more magic juice you have, the more shit you can power?
03:42:36 Devastator: Seems pretty useful.
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05:02:13 Devastator: the person training me is a deaf-mute.
05:02:47 syv: I think I heard about that?
05:02:56 Devastator: I think I've mentioned it before.
05:03:09 syv: I could see that being troublesome, but if they're a decent teacher it's still better than a bad teacher.
05:03:54 Devastator: It's doable.. but the inability to ask questions is nasty.
05:04:25 ER: I definately go through cycles of low energy where I don't want to deal with updating a game or whatever.
05:04:25 Piecewise__: indecent teachers are the best though
05:04:42 ER: Somehow I think the solution to that is loading screen tips?
05:05:40 syv:
Dev, can't you just write questions? It would be slow, but not impossible, I'd think.
05:06:17 Devastator: Oh yes. But you can see the difficulty, yeah?
05:06:33 Piecewise__: communicate in hand jive
05:06:54 syv: Yes, but "difficulty" is different from "inability".
05:07:18 Piecewise__: so whats the difficulty you're having,
sy? If you feel like talking
05:07:22 syv:
Dev likely doesn't know handjive.
05:07:35 Piecewise__:
Dev white ass honky don't have no moves
05:07:43 syv: Uhm. I feel a little surprised by you asking that question.
05:07:44 Piecewise__: But I am skeleton, whitest of all
05:08:00 syv: Just an entirely different air than you usually give. And gave on either side of it.
05:08:38 Piecewise__: *Shrug* maybe dealing with dying people all the time has made me a sensitive skeleton?
05:09:07 syv: Answer is "my job makes me semi-randomly switch between being nocturnal, diurnal, and something between the two, and I've yet to recover from the latest bout"
05:09:25 syv: Also from my experience with family in medical fields, I'd expect the opposite.
05:09:35 Piecewise__: I guess it depends
05:09:41 Piecewise__: I handle care, not diagnosis
05:09:59 Piecewise__: then again, there are lots of very dead soul nurses
05:10:41 Piecewise__: Been having a lot of random switches between the time periods and you're feeling jet lagged, effectively?
05:10:56 syv: Yeaaaah. My sister's a nurse, and... well, I guess she got better at *acting* nice with it, but it certainly didn't make her a nicer person. Being a nurse makes you deal with a lot of assholes.
05:11:00 ER: everyone's got their own kind of fucked up dead rotten soul, right?
05:11:47 Piecewise__: Have you tried Oxytocin? I've heard good things about it letting people sleep better
05:12:17 Piecewise__: Am I thinking of the wrong chemical?
05:12:56 syv: I broadly just avoid most chemicals. Especially self-medicating type stuff.
05:13:22 Devastator: I think Oxytocin is what they give to induce labour.
05:13:37 ER: well I'm constantly surrounded in o2 and also need it to live so I don't think avoiding chemicals is nessesary
05:13:40 Piecewise__: Oxytocin has lots of uses.
05:13:52 Devastator: Does that do anything if you just eat it? I thought that just got digested.
05:13:58 Piecewise__: Melatonin is the chemical made by the brain to make you sleepy
05:14:06 Piecewise__: people sometimes take it orally as a sleep aid
05:14:32 Piecewise__: Sorry to hear that
sy
05:14:58 Piecewise__: hope you can get some sleep, or at least that they give you a few days of similar times
05:15:14 syv: I'm good for the next few weeks, at least.
05:15:49 Piecewise__: Are you in a job where you're on 24 hour call or just very erratic scheduling?
05:16:23 syv: I get weird shifts because I'm the only reliable relief worker. Nobody else likes covering more time, so I usually end up with someone else's shift schedule for a week or so.
05:16:44 syv: If multiple people take time off, I get a very abrupt change.
05:16:53 Piecewise__: ah, my wife is in much the same place. Always reliable, always called in at odd hors
05:17:27 Piecewise__: Boss come to rely on being able to dump ya in whenever they need
05:17:29 syv: I also do generally get a few days warning. Sudden changes are almost always restricted to people injuring themselves.
05:17:47 syv: Gets me money, though, and that's always nice.
05:18:01 Piecewise__: The curse of competency and work ethic. And paycheck lust~
05:18:28 ER: gotta have the competency and not the work ethic, see
05:18:48 Piecewise__: Gotta put him in the river, See
05:18:58 Piecewise__: Gotta give him a pair of concrete shoes, see
05:19:35 ER: what's the point of having extra money when you have to do extra work for it
05:20:15 syv: Money equals breathing room and less stress in the end.
05:20:34 Piecewise__: Does the erratic timing exacerbate any of the issues that cause those expenses? Whatever they are.
05:20:46 Piecewise__: Well thats good at least
05:20:51 Piecewise__: that would be a vicious cycle
05:20:51 ER: I don't want to feed my breathing room to the stress in order to have breathing room
05:21:14 Piecewise__:
ER, you'll understand when you're older
05:21:25 syv: I'm good as far as medical stuff, any worries are years-away potentials. Buuut it's a strong reason to get money, just in case things get worse.
05:22:26 Piecewise__: Any prospects of advancement via all your reliable service?
05:23:30 ER: advancement? that sounds fake
05:23:56 syv: Yeah. Going full time with a steady schedule, for one. That requires someone quitting, but that's virtually guaranteed eventually.
05:23:57 Piecewise__: What level do you evolve into middle management-mon at
05:24:20 Piecewise__: I got a few books on poisons here if you wanna
05:25:03 Devastator: IRC is generally not trawled by the usual robots..
05:25:08 Devastator: you can speak freely here.
05:25:26 Piecewise__: HELLO FELLOW INTERNET KIDS, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE FUZZ HERE
05:25:34 syv: Only
Paris' bot, and
Paris' bot is fine with murder, I'm sure.
05:25:35 Piecewise__: PLEASE JUST SPEAK FREELY
05:25:47 Piecewise__: RIGHT INTO THIS MICROPHONE
05:26:01 syv: Bemmu too, I guess, but Bemmubot knows nothing and tells nobody.
05:27:05 ER: bah, I need more sandwiches
05:27:35 ER: that's what gaining money is for
05:28:01 ER: baiting someone else into making a sandwich for you in exchange for money.
05:28:06 Devastator: greater sandwiches.
05:28:12 ER: or potentially buying bread and stuff
05:28:42 syv: I'd give you one of mine, but I don't think it would survive the trip.
05:28:45 Piecewise__: sandwiches which our enemies will cower in fear of
05:29:04 ER: our sandwiches shall blot out the sun
05:29:04 Piecewise__: A sandwich empire to last 1000 years!
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05:29:53 ER: why would it be .nick you numbskull
05:29:53 Devastator: We are freed from the underscore domination.
05:30:30 piecewise: I'm learning linux shit right now so my head is filled with commands I only sort of remember
05:31:10 piecewise: the commands for the "Nano" writer are particularly weird
05:31:47 ER: that's not what ctrl-x is supposed to do
05:32:08 syv: That's not weird, that's downright malevolent
05:32:38 Devastator: Maybe it is malevolent.
05:32:59 piecewise: There's a lot of stuff in linux that is just weirdly designed. Some is pretty straight forward, others are very odd
05:33:09 syv: If I were using that to write, I'd end up deleting all my work by accident every fifteen minutes.
05:34:01 piecewise: At least the actual C++ stuff is pretty self explanatory so far.
05:34:20 syv: Unsurprisingly, C++ is a good language.
05:35:02 piecewise: yeah. Though good and "Easy" are not the same
05:35:21 Devastator: Should we watch something now that you're around,
syv?
05:36:28 syv: Erm. We could, I guess. Was meaning to try and write PS, but I'm not, so...
05:37:02 syv: Also, at work, so we'd have desyncs at least once an hour, more if the weather changes.
05:37:06 piecewise: I posted an unfinished list of MOOK items by the way
05:37:22 syv: I haven't looked at mook in like a week. >.>
05:37:38 syv: Yeah, prolly for the best, sorryl
05:37:55 syv:
MJ said he'd be around to watch stuff tomorrow night.
05:38:28 piecewise: What would you guys like to watch?
05:38:36 piecewise: I can upload something on google if you like
05:39:01 piecewise: I have the terrible american release of Naausica and the valley of the wind where they dubbed it to be like a he-man cartoon
05:39:23 syv: Checking my torrents, we've got OL S2, AoT S2, Evil Dead 2, and Memento.
05:39:29 syv: ...Actually that sounds fun.
05:39:51 ER: apparently the overlord torrent is dub only?
05:39:56 syv: I've also been meaning to watch that movie for awhile, though not a mis-dubbed version.
05:40:14 syv: It says Dual Audio, but maybe they F'd up?
05:40:20 Devastator: I've got overlord S2. But yeah, it's dub only.
05:40:29 Devastator: It is dual audio. There's just no subtitles.
05:41:17 syv: Sorry, think that's my fault. I usually check them first before linking, but I guess I didn't that time.
05:41:54 piecewise: I think I have the HQ correctly dubbed version
05:42:00 piecewise: If you wanna watch that
05:42:19 piecewise: unless you already have it
05:42:37 syv: On
MJ's behalf, OL is actually the only one I'm gonna veto watching without him. He said he was really interested in it, and he gave us a time he'd be available.
05:43:18 piecewise: Season 2 has the lizard friends!
05:44:03 Devastator: And I think there's a wizard lizard!
05:44:19 Devastator: (I've only watched the first episode, and it is mostly recap.)
05:44:19 syv: I'm gonna guess
MJ will like lizard friends, so opinion unchanged.
05:45:04 piecewise: The lizards or just in general?
05:45:22 piecewise: I believe crystals show up
05:45:41 piecewise: Also yes, multiple wizard lizards and lizard wizards
05:45:47 syv: He's liked crystals ever since Trier crystallized himself in
ER, maybe before, I'unno.
05:46:23 Devastator: Fair enough, though.
05:46:26 syv: Oh, I also still have Memories, though I missed the watch before.
05:46:39 Devastator: You'd like the cannon fodder one.
05:47:01 piecewise: All of them are good in their own ways
05:47:25 syv: I'll get around to watching them eventually, I'm sure.
05:47:41 ER: honestly just having fun adding things to the mook item list
05:48:08 ER: no doubt horrifcally OP things, but eh you can just make them expensive ;P
05:48:30 piecewise: I'll look through it
05:48:33 Devastator: "Also, the americans have sent a volunteer force. To Syria. It's the Wake Island Garrison."
05:49:11 piecewise: Oh and apparently "Gunsmith Cats" is a good show for gun porn,
sy.
05:50:01 syv: Does it actually have gunsmith cats?
05:50:36 piecewise: but gunsmith cats would be great
05:51:03 syv: Mm. I'll try Gunslinger Girl first. SVD > WA2000.
05:51:27 piecewise: I just always keep an eye out for anime that does guns well
05:51:37 ER: (hmm, magic cats telekinetically building enchanted guns. yes.)
05:51:49 piecewise: Game idea for you there
05:53:07 ER: magic makes everything great
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05:56:00 syComp: Gunslinger Girl torrent, because
ER said he was interested and I might as well:
05:56:01 syComp: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d1b064f7a8c983d278ab6c54721bd6c83fc5a8e&dn=Gunslinger%20Girl&tr=http%3a%2f%2fnyaa.tracker.wf%3a7777%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.stealth.si%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969%2fannounce
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05:56:30 piecewise: Now...how would you actually do that in a way that isn't....fucking nonsense
05:56:54 syv: I asked and you gave a vaugely positive response. Also, might as well.
05:57:15 syv: Don't download if you don't want, not an issue for me.
05:57:22 Devastator: You could make magic guns for that cat and mouse game you were writing.
05:57:28 ER: ...what was this one about, again?
05:57:44 syv: I stopped writing it because I failed the deadline.
05:57:53 ER: I figure the cats already make magitech guns in that
05:58:18 Devastator: I need to do a few more turns anyway.
05:58:32 ER: like self-recharging lightning bolt wands which can be used by normal people
05:58:35 Devastator: I'll send another birdgame turn sometime during the next week.
05:58:54 syv: ...If I finished that setting, would you still run the game anyway?
05:58:56 Devastator: Sure. Fifteen per village. ;-p
05:59:02 Devastator: I'd consider it, but birdgame.
05:59:07 Devastator:
ER, need orders from you for that.
05:59:19 piecewise: Maybe if I made it modular....
05:59:22 ER: I'll be honest I have no idea what I'm doing?
05:59:38 piecewise: Or stole that metal slug thing
06:00:02 syv: That metal slug system was HORRIBLE
06:00:14 syv: I don't even remember what was so bad, but it was bad.
06:04:33 piecewise: what the heck are these tf2 comics
06:04:39 piecewise: these are apparently canon?
06:04:46 piecewise: I don't pay attention
06:05:33 syv: Yeah, they're canon, and insane, from what I understand.
06:05:58 syv: In case you wanted to know more of the expanded lore of the excuse plot world for a stupis video game.
06:08:11 syv: You also love K6BD, which is... well, actually it's decent I guess. Uhm. Unsounded? No... SSSS? Kinda poor, arguably. Hmm.
06:08:17 syv: Do you like any bad comics?
06:08:31 ER: also Valve seem to have given up on them just before the literal last issue of the arc
06:08:51 syv: I don't recall you ever linking any bad comics, but I want to say you would.
06:09:03 syv: So help me with this task, please.
06:09:28 piecewise: K6BD is poor to me, but only because I was so let down by it. Objectively its fine
06:09:33 ER: I've got Lighter than Heir, which I'd rate merely average, with its high moments
06:10:21 syv: K6BD is pretty meh to me, but it's creatively artistic much of the time. I have nothing positive to say about the writing, but it's too pretty to hate.
06:10:24 Devastator: Eh, I just like Digger, Prequel, and ABGttEotU.
06:11:02 syv: Did ABGblahblah have any furry characters in it?
06:11:13 syv: I don't recall, but I want your favorites to be 3 for 3.
06:13:02 Devastator: It did have a robot dog with a gatling gun.
06:13:09 Devastator: and it did have a giant bird with jet engines.
06:13:41 ER: My webcomic bookmarks are XKCD, Goblins, Schlock Mercenary, SSSS, Necropolis, K6BD, SMBC, Ava's Demon, Cucumber Quest, Unsounded, Ligher than Heir, Laws and Sausages, Awful Hospital
06:14:06 syv: You also like Goblins, so I don't trust your sense of quality in comics.
06:14:27 Devastator: Yeah, I don't know at what point that went bad for me. I used to like it years ago.
06:14:30 ER: I don't like Goblins *much*, but it's worth a read
06:15:23 syv: I have been linked to it a good few times, and I've disliked or hated every page I've seen. As a bonus, the artstyle seems to have only degraded with age, somehow.
06:15:29 Devastator: It also had Briefcase Tank, the greatest concept since the history of time.
06:15:33 ER: I also read OotS, but that update irregularly and someone of B12 always dings when it updates so I don't bother bookmarking it
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06:16:21 ER: I used to have Broodhollow bookmarked, but I took it off because it's very undead
06:16:50 ER: wonder if it's still updating or if it died again. hmm
06:19:15 ER: I guess Necropolis has been longer since a real update, but it's just so gosh-darn gorgeous.
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06:20:38 Piecewise_: I only read premium japanese cartoon drawings
06:20:49 ER: 'sa fuckin' scary queen with a sword covered in blood
06:21:16 ER: you mean ultra-weebtrash,
PW?
06:21:17 syv: It's a bit too artsy for me.
06:21:24 Piecewise_: I feel like k6bd has very nice art but something about it is too...ephemeral
06:21:42 syv: It's good if I don't think about it hard at all.
06:21:43 Devastator: Sadly, I can't read ABG anymore. The link seems to be not working.
06:21:47 Piecewise_: like you keep showing us all this awesome shit but I never feel like it has any weight or anything
06:22:04 ER: if it has a good arts, fuck it it's good right?
06:22:15 Piecewise_: Its certainly nice to look at
06:22:33 syv: Like I said before, pretty, but nothing positive to say on the writing.
06:22:36 Piecewise_: I think I'd like it more if he just did a lot of high detail drawings of the setting with no story
06:23:03 Piecewise_: Might actually be better story that way, if he told it visually with no dialog.
06:23:19 Piecewise_: something about the art style makes me think guy? But could be wrong
06:23:21 syv: I've assumed it was a she, but I don't know.
06:23:51 Piecewise_: I'd be fine with a bunch of that, yeah
06:23:53 syv: Yeah. More of that, less of the boring human girl.
06:24:26 ER: it's a hella metal where's waldo
06:25:17 Devastator: apparently someone put an archive up on reddit, so I'm going to check that out.
06:25:59 syv: Huh, I spotted those, then shifted back to say that, but
ER beat me to it.
06:26:02 Piecewise_: Again, k6bd is very disappointing to me because it has such great potential
06:26:12 Piecewise_: so much neat art and ideas but...thats about it
06:26:36 syv: Eh. IMO settings that go into that level of abstract crazy weirdness never really work out plot-wise.
06:26:45 syv: That may just be preference on my part.
06:27:06 Piecewise_: Which is why he probably tried to provide a audience insert in the form of the girl
06:27:16 Piecewise_: keep it grounded through her
06:27:33 Devastator: So where's chainsaw glaive guy?
06:27:35 Piecewise_: But she's not very interesting or engaging so eh
06:27:36 syv: Neat, Coca Cola actually gets to murdering people.
06:27:37 ER: the audience is not grounded and I love it
06:27:46 Piecewise_: There's a demon carrying a kitty in there too
06:27:49 ER: the comments section is like 50% roleplaying
06:27:52 syv: Most of the audience makes me want to punch them.
06:28:28 syv: The comments are precisely the kind of insufferably high spoken gibberish that I hate.
06:28:38 ER: most of the money priests use chainsaw glaives
06:29:00 Devastator: oh, there they are.
06:29:07 ER: if you spot high spoken gibberish from one named Ocean that's me
06:29:40 syv: If I do spot it, I will be sure to come on here and tell you how much I want to punch you at that moment.
06:30:02 Devastator: You want the location? It's hard to miss.
06:30:23 Devastator: It's in the crowd of named characters on the left side of the image.
06:30:25 syv: Also, shouldn't it be "Ocean Slurps the Endless Serpent 44"?
06:31:00 ER: but that's just the naming scheme for angels, which I wouldn't care to roleplay
06:31:36 syv: You wouldn't know, reading the comments.
06:33:28 ER: Don't usually like sprite comics, when every panel is painstakingly drawn you know life
06:33:44 ER: even if pages come twice a year
06:34:00 Devastator: That reddit archive is the real thing.
06:34:24 ER: OotS is basically sprites, but I like the writing and it can still bre pretty, especially lately
06:34:41 ER: I like when Roy's sword goes glowey
06:34:56 Devastator: Yeah, simple does not mean the same thing as 'looks bad'
06:35:34 syv: I prefer actual art too, but writing tends to be valuable.
06:35:47 Devastator: It's a great read if you've got the time,
PW. It's far, far better than most of it's comparables.
06:35:48 syv: If I just want to browse pretty art, there's a ton of sites for that.
06:36:12 syv: "It's not face-meltingly terrible and cringey"
06:36:34 Devastator: Hey, for some, that is a high bar.
06:36:38 syv: I recall enjoying it, but not feeling it was amazing or anything. "Not bad."
06:36:45 syv: Which, yes, isn't a low bar.
06:36:48 ER: Do read Broodhollow if you haven't. It's not updating now but it does have two complete books and it does neat stuff with its simple art style
06:37:10 Piecewise_: What is the great read then?
06:37:12 Devastator: Hard to judge. I had fun with that for a time, but..
06:37:18 Devastator: The thing I just linked.
06:37:26 syv: A Beginner's Guide to the End of the Universe.
06:37:59 syv: Fan comic IIRC, like Prequel.
06:40:32 syv: Something about the first few pages made me very angry so I skipped on it.
06:41:23 Piecewise_: I don't know anything about prequel other than the porn
06:41:54 syv: It's far better than the porn, you should read it.
06:42:04 Piecewise_: Please stop sending me images of a sad faced man with a monobrow
06:43:04 Piecewise_: I can harrass
er on discord
06:43:25 syv: It starts off as mostly a parody of Oblivion and Elder Scrolls in general, and then it progresses into being a parody of Oblivion and Elder Scrolls in general, which also has a gripping plot about abusing a woman who is also a cat.
06:43:55 Piecewise_: Ah, the
sy interest becomes clear
06:44:01 syv: That's your thing, isn't it?
06:44:18 syv: Wasn't the meme about me liking suffering of little girls, not women?
06:44:31 Piecewise_: I prefer when they get sad and then happy
06:44:34 ER: mostly you two seem to like abusing each other
06:44:36 Devastator: Tell me the misconceptions others hold about yourself, syvarris.
06:45:27 syv: Uhh. They think I like suffering of females and a young age group in particular, when in fact I like suffering of most all peoples equally.
06:46:13 syv: Beyond that I think perceptions are decently accurate...?
06:46:39 ER: guess I'll have to work out making boys cry with Refine
06:46:46 syv: Yes. But stories about people suffering usually target women, presumably for cultural reasons.
06:46:51 Piecewise_: Its like how people think I enjoy rape in my anime but really I just enjoy anime that happens to include rape
06:47:10 syv: Stop trying to agree with me, please.
06:47:54 Piecewise_:
Er must not be looking at Discord
06:47:59 Piecewise_: for how long that image has been there
06:48:04 Devastator: What's Discord doing right now?
06:49:13 ER: like, I saw it if that's what you want
06:49:16 Piecewise_: I used our rule34 command on prequel
06:49:29 Piecewise_: Usually
ER censors my rule34 searches
06:49:46 Piecewise_: even the ones that don't turn out horrific
06:49:51 ER: yeah but if I delete this one you'll just make another so why bother?
06:50:18 syv: Mobile has a functional way to do that, so desktop *must* have something.
06:50:22 Devastator: I'm absolutely certain there exists loads of prequel porn.
06:50:43 ER: meh, I'd rather see images to be honest
06:50:57 syv: ...I was about to say "of course, it has a female furry lead", but then, does Digger have 34?
06:51:08 ER: however horrific, not like random internet porn actually matters
06:51:26 Devastator: I'm sure there is digger porn out there.
06:52:14 syv: Are you sure, or just comfortable betting any amount on it?
06:52:20 ER: cats are sexier than wombats for unknown reasons
06:52:27 Piecewise_: hmmm this isn't digger
06:52:55 Piecewise_: does she have a name?
06:53:01 Devastator: Digger-of-unnecessarily-convoluted-tunnels.
06:53:04 syv: Digger of Overly Convoluted Tunnels
06:54:55 Piecewise_: No joy, least as far as I can find
06:55:00 Piecewise_: image wise at least
06:56:48 Piecewise_: None have obvious pornographic tags though
06:57:32 Piecewise_: The tags on the first one are nuts
06:57:41 Piecewise_: I think there's more tags than there is story
06:58:11 syv: AO3 often has absurd tagging overdose.
06:58:18 Piecewise_: Digger of Unnecessarily Convoluted Tunnels/Shadowchild Digger of Unnecessarily Convoluted Tunnels/EdDigger-of-Unnecessarily-Convoluted-Tunnels Shadowchild Ed Jhalm Ganesh Statue Skin Lizards She-Is-Fiercer Grim Eyes ManuelDigger fic yay Fluff Drabbles importance AUGH Writing by the seat of my pants a fic that isn't a gif for star or insane? whever thought that was possible I know whos gunna die It's noone nobodys gunna die
06:58:18 Piecewise_: except me im gunna die Are you worried yet? good. i should probably stop there are more tags than there is fic and half of them arent even tags Hurt/Comfort Character Depth Character Development meow imma cow Lets actually start the fic now Or not its up to you Shadowchild is a smol bean
06:59:13 Piecewise_: Digger-of-Unnecessarily-Convoluted-Tunnels Shadowchild Original CharactersReunions Future Fic Fluff Domestic Fluff Asexual Character implied Digger/OC but not in the way you'd really think Wombat society Genderqueer Character Aromantic Character
06:59:42 Piecewise_: "asexual/aromantic"
06:59:46 Piecewise_: "Original characters"
06:59:55 Piecewise_: Stop it. Get some help
07:00:13 Devastator: Gotta assign labels to people.
07:00:57 ER: imagine how mad some of our RTDs might look to a complete outsider
07:01:23 Devastator: I dunno. Most of them are relatively straightforwards.
07:01:34 Devastator: Pumsy's is out there a bit.
07:02:03 Piecewise_: And then the genderless mutant used the gun that shot ghosts to kill the concept of bees
07:04:38 syv: "Can my succubus seduce a unicorn to steal its magical glamour?"
07:04:57 syv: "Can I train my house-sized pet bird mount to be a succubus?"
07:05:05 Devastator: That was weird, I'll admit that.
07:05:37 Devastator: Nah, wasn't there lots of mythological stuff involved about unicorns and sexuality?
07:05:51 Piecewise_: Giant bird succubus?
07:05:58 Piecewise_: Are you watching Shield hero too?
07:05:59 Devastator: Yeah, that would have been weird.
07:05:59 ER: and my favorite game concept is necessarially a farther out there version of Pumsy's Seeds
07:06:20 syv: It's Pumsy's Seeds, except with a setting that isn't aggressively undefined.
07:06:51 Devastator: And a higher power level.
07:07:26 Devastator: I think
ER was saying something about making base level powers equivalent to your level 3.
07:07:32 syv: I think Refine chars start out weaker and just have a slightly higher powercap.
07:07:47 syv: Yeah, but there isn't a level 2 or 3 in Refine.
07:08:18 ER: Yeah, Refine characters also won't be regularly getting cross-class powers
07:08:20 syv: PS' powers are mostly built around their L3 power, the L1 and L2 levels are just there for a sense of progression.
07:12:02 syv: How many powers does a basic Hunter start with,
ER?
07:12:33 Piecewise_:
Sy, are you developing a game with Sony?
07:12:37 ER: Six, and they will gradually learn the other six they have access to over time, no need for killing things.
07:13:11 syv: Huh. Refine hunters actually start of stronger, then. PS chars only get five L2s to start,
07:14:21 Devastator: six level 3s is more powerful.
07:16:08 ER: uh, arbatrary. Was actually 3 neutral and 3 class powers, but it's probably smarter to let you split 6 points as you like
07:17:59 syv: I don't think I'd go with fewer than four.
07:18:01 ER: maybe I want to have actual experience points for unlocking powers and arts.
07:18:34 syv: Any less than four and people WILL hamstring themselves. It'll even happen at six, really.
07:18:51 ER: start with 0 powers and have them manifest randomly in inconvenient ways!
07:19:09 Devastator: And having only one power would suck. I mean, it'd be like playing a D&D character who can only, say, open locks.
07:19:21 Devastator: So you'd sit around all the time until comes a moment to do your one thing.
07:19:28 Piecewise_: Welp, I'm going to bed. I'll see you guys tomorrow
07:19:38 Piecewise_: Try to get that list of items filled out
07:19:50 Piecewise_: Night
sy, get some sleep as well when you can
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07:20:45 ER: do you want a link to the mook item list,
syv?
07:21:06 syv:
ER, your statement gave me the memtal image of a skeleton disassmbling itself and stacking its bones carefully on a shelf as a way to sleep.
07:21:38 syv: Not like I'm writing what I meant to write.
07:24:13 syv: I'd think that's essentially the same as a normal chainsword. :\
07:24:21 ER: like a chainsaw, but a Macuahuitl. like a Macuhuitl, but a chainsaw.
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07:25:52 ER: I questioned it too and I'm not sure if I got an answer at all
07:28:34 Devastator: It's a chainsword, why question it?
07:28:48 Devastator: Although I wouldn't want to make a chainsaw out of obsidian.
07:29:23 ER: more like questioning what makes it a chain machuitil rather than a chainsword
07:29:58 syv: Yeah, I doubt it has obsidian in it.
07:30:32 Devastator: Maybe you hold it in only one hand.
07:30:34 syv: "Plasma rapier", but it's just a knife that rolls on dex.
07:30:48 Devastator: Maybe it needs repair after each couple of uses.
07:30:49 syv: Don't you singlehand chainswords too?
07:31:16 syv: And frankly they'd need repair after each use as well...
07:31:26 ER: Nah, the rapier could potentially do absurd damage if you have super high dex
07:31:44 ER: as opposed to a knife which always does 1d4 damage after rolling to hit
07:31:54 Devastator: So it works until it breaks.
07:31:58 ER: but yes, the rapier also has ammo
07:32:12 ER: for some reason the chainsaw *doesn't* have ammo
07:32:49 Devastator: Well.. you can run one for hours on a tank of gas.
07:33:00 Devastator: and while they do require sharpening, it's on a similar pace.
07:33:24 syv: Could be an overpowered electrical one, charge it between missions.
07:33:56 syv: Instead of a healthcare plan, we get a gasoline plan as a perk of tje job.
07:34:04 ER: or they found out how to harvest cheap magical chainsaws from hell
07:37:34 syv: Not an *anti* personnel mine, a personnel mine. I guess it summons interns as meat shields?
07:37:42 ER: better than an personal mine
07:37:45 syv: Or maybe it summons the victim's angry boss.
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07:38:36 Devastator: That might be a funnier item.
07:38:45 Devastator: You put it on the ground/wall and it's a hole.
07:38:54 Devastator: An endless stream of mooks pour forth.
07:39:14 Devastator: Sadly, they all have flat d4 stats and are more dangerous to the players/themselves than the enemy.
07:40:10 syv: You place the mine, and when summon trips it, it summons YOU as the disposable mook.
07:40:32 Devastator: Nah, it swaps places.
07:40:34 Devastator: like the overlord item.
07:40:45 syv: That's definitely a good item.
07:41:18 Devastator: In fact, it could also then be a Personnel, mine.
07:41:54 syv: Why is it under explosives, then?
07:41:57 syv: "Brain backup (creates copy of brain constantly. On body death, mind is copied onto OMNI-scient network and can be uploaded into mechanical structures. Only skills are kept. Stats depend on body.)"
07:42:13 syv: Skills are officially more valuable than stats, don't easte your levels.
07:42:24 Devastator: You get one of each per level..
07:42:27 ER: you get one for skills and one for stats anyway...?
07:43:05 ER: it is an excuse to not care as much about what you invest stats in, though. :P
07:44:03 ER: stats can be short term gain which doesn't matter later when you put on that sweet sweet auditor body
07:44:23 Devastator: Agg, getting
ER flashbacks.
07:44:38 Devastator: hopefully I'll be dead before I need to read the armoury.
07:45:24 syv: Robobodies are a strsight upgrade over base human bodies, too.
07:46:28 ER: well, the generic robot has d6 across the board, which is probably better than a starting character overall
07:47:16 Devastator: And they'll probably level just the same.
07:47:37 ER: they won't be free like in
ER, though
07:51:16 syv: ...I kinda want to suggest a crystal gun. d4 damage, d8 use die, you can increase the damage up to d8, but the use die reduces by a similar amount.
07:51:33 syv: So it's a d4/d8, d6/d6, or d8/d4. Versatility.
07:52:46 Devastator: "Gun Dog = man's best friendly weapon."
07:53:28 ER: robobody buddy with a doggo brain?
07:53:31 syv: You want it to be even MORE like
ER?
07:53:50 Devastator: The more you do it, the less I want to play it..
07:54:36 ER: hmm, does that doc show my real name on it?
07:54:40 syv: Then why did you suggest adding a gunner bot to the armory? :P
07:54:46 ER: hard to tell if it's just showing that for me
07:54:49 Devastator: I didn't suggest that.
07:54:55 Devastator: It's a quote from ABG.
07:56:44 Devastator: If we had a gunner bot, I'd rather it be like a mini-spaceship from a vertical shmup. Does very little damage, but tries to shoot down incoming attacks and rounds.
07:58:09 syv: Yes, it shows your full name.
08:13:53 Devastator: That seems somewhat DF.
08:27:06 Devastator: Huh. What that person said is true. The void only makes things after the players use creativity to make things that are similar.
08:30:16 syv: That game seems extremely DF.
08:30:24 Devastator: Animals after the dog, tree after the plants, tetrahedron head after Mary, and a ship after the voidship.
08:30:40 syv: I've never actually seen Rimworld before.
08:31:05 ER: I've seen it. it's... very uninteresting to me
08:31:32 Devastator: Yeah, I don't think I'll watch more, but the concept is overdue.
08:32:01 ER: basically the only thing that appeals to me about it is doing sadistic things to captured bandits. u_u
08:32:46 Devastator: "You can only eat raw human meat."
09:10:56 syv: You can only eat / raw human meat found in your / refridgerator.
09:12:55 Devastator: Ahh, I like ABG a lot.
09:14:18 syv: The fate of all things one likes.
09:14:57 Devastator: It had a proper ending.
09:15:04 Devastator: There are worse things than endings.
09:16:15 Devastator: I like the writing, I like the setting, and it's just.. well put together. It just feels timeless to me.
09:33:31 syv: Were you ever going to do anything more with Tactical Hell?
09:34:21 syv: What about it makes you not want to run anything more? The complexity?
09:34:39 syv: ...That's a thought, actually. Why *wouldn't* I steal it?
09:34:56 syv: Just need a simple grid program and I could run something.
09:35:06 ER: I wanted to run it to see how it would work in practace, and because I had a specific scenario in mind
09:35:20 syv: How'd it work in practice?
09:35:55 syv: Well then why won't you do anything more with it? ;-;
09:36:04 ER: Might be good to get something that's easier to use than paint.net for the grid, tho
09:36:36 syv: Yeah, if I were gonna run it, it'd be far less artsy.
09:37:08 syv: Heh, I might just screenshot Maptool maps, that'd work fine, and I already know the program.
09:37:15 ER: because Refine is like 2.5 times as much more interesting and also I have a lot on things which could demand attention and videogames are fun too
09:37:29 syv: Then why aren't you running Refine?
09:38:29 syv: Why aren't you supplying me with games,
ER? I updated Sophia, like, multiple times last month!
09:39:37 Devastator sighs, and resolves to do another birdgame turn or two.
09:39:44 Devastator: I do need orders from you for that,
ER.
09:39:53 ER: now I have one more reason to run Ocean, for example, because you could have gun-making cats and that would be cool.
09:40:51 syv: Just run Tactical Hell, because you AREN'T running Refine or Ocean, so might as well.
09:41:18 syv: Worst case scenario, you can just end Tachell without fanfare and do something else.
09:41:23 ER: that would require work to set up too, because again I don't have another scenario for it
09:41:46 syv: Best case, you get more experience running a game, and will do Refine/Ocean/Whatever better than you otherwise would.
09:41:56 syv: Just make another scenario then.
09:42:34 syv: Write down six enemy things that seem hell-y, then roll a 1d6, and you've got an encounter.
09:43:35 syv: If you need an environment, write down six room types, roll a 1d6, and then a 1d4 for the number of doors. Bam, encounter environment.
09:45:09 syv: Aviators is at his best when he has someone else sing.
09:45:15 Devastator: You're fighting in the rooms on top of a roadside inn. Common room with fireplace, and stairs up to four bedrooms. Attached outdoor stable, open path in front with paved road.
09:45:18 Devastator: Or is that too big?
09:45:52 syv: I think
ER feels the need to draw the entire environment, and therefore it's far too complex and detailed.
09:46:21 Devastator: ..You can copy and paste bedrooms, and a common room is open with like a fireplace, a bar, two tables, and two chairs.
09:46:31 Devastator: I mean, that isn't nothing, but it's reasonably easy.
09:46:41 ER: drawing a box and claiming that it's a living room seems silly
09:46:53 syv: Good point.
ER. Run Tachell Cottage.
09:47:59 Devastator: Do a log house. One bedroom, one bathroom, kitchen, main room, done.
09:48:44 ER: oh yeah just a bedroom bathroom kitchen and mainroom how simple
09:49:31 ER: that's like at least a toilet and a sink, another sink, cabnets, a bed, and at least 2 tables
09:49:59 Devastator: All of which are boxes with words on them.
09:50:18 syv: Option B: Don't draw out a bunch of stuff you don't want to draw out.
09:50:19 Devastator: A toilet is a box and two ovals.
09:50:23 Devastator: A sink is an oval in a box.
09:50:29 Devastator: A bed is a box with two smaller boxes on it.
09:50:44 Devastator: Yes. To distinguish it from a basin.
09:50:56 syv: What kind of mutant toilets do you use,
Dev?
09:51:11 Devastator: ..It's how you draw toilets on architectural drawings.
09:51:35 Devastator: Do they only use one oval these days?
09:51:47 syv: But this is a Tactical Hell drawing. Neither of these words are synonyms of architectural.
09:53:28 Devastator: I don't know what tactical hell drawings looked like.
09:53:41 Devastator: I imagined they were like architectural drawings, because that shows you what's in a place without taking all day.
09:53:46 ER: hmm, too much to have a knife that uses Technology skill?
09:53:58 Devastator: Only if it's bigger than d4.
09:54:04 syv:
ER, I just googled your name on a whim. Google says you have a rating of 3.8
09:54:17 ER: out of what according to whom
09:56:48 ER: I mean nobody is going to rate themselves 2.5 or below but I think I'm pretty high quality, if of questionable usefulness outside of niche cirumstances
09:58:32 ER: also, it's a knife which uses tech and does d4 damage but damage goes up on successful hits
09:58:50 ER: Basically it analyzes the enemy and guides your blow
09:58:52 syv: Only one of your five listed neighbors have a higher score. But then four out of five have BIG RED ALERTS saying they have court records.
09:59:13 Devastator: Where are you putting these in, anyway?
10:00:14 syv: Oh. I just googled the name, in quotes. The first site was mylife.com, but there's a ton of these. Most of their information overlaps.
10:01:49 syv: They're pretty stupid, and I'm sure much of the information is wrong, but I find it amusing to look at them.
10:05:57 syv: Oh this site is adorable. "YOUR REPORT IS READY. REMEMBER, MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE! PLEASE CHECK THE BOX SAYING YOU AREN'T STALKING THEM, HARRASSING THEM, OR [DOING ANYTHING ELSE WITH THIS INFORMATION]. ALSO, PAY US MONEY."
10:08:51 ER:
syv, you somehow managed to put some of your suggestions INSIDE my suggestions
10:09:11 ER: it's uh kinda weird and I dunno why google docs works like this
10:09:44 ER: basically one of my linebreaks ended up under your stuff
10:36:01 ER: how can stinkbugs be adorable
10:36:36 Devastator: Your painter in Cabal has an explode word, right?
10:36:40 ER: just cute in their ignorence or something.
10:36:53 ER: no link, I'm talking about the one right next to me
10:40:19 Devastator: That's still not bad. Can be used to make stuff blow up.
10:40:23 Devastator: That's like detonate, right?
10:43:13 syv: I think it's purely the size, here.
10:52:06 ER: took video too but I have no idea how to get that to you :P
10:53:25 syv: Apparently Egan is white! Somehow I am not surprised.
10:53:49 syv: Video could be dropboxed, I guess, but I don't really care. More into spiders.
10:53:56 ER: have I not shown you myself yet? guess not
10:56:55 ER: well that's what I actually look like
10:57:26 ER: you know, when I'm already taking pictures of cute things~
10:58:21 syv: Woah, beard. You look *nothing* like what I expected.
11:00:56 Devastator: do you drink from full barrels?
11:01:25 ER: I am able to drain pitchers of iced tea quite quickly
11:01:56 syv: Ah, yeah, you don't drink.
11:01:58 ER: ...but I don't like alcohol, no
11:02:32 ER: Tried some of it, didn't do anything interesting to me so I stopped.
11:02:54 syv: Clearly you did not try enough.
11:03:06 Devastator: Yeah, a lot of time you don't notice much when you have just one or two.
11:03:20 Devastator: It changes things a little, but others notice it better than you.
11:04:01 syv: ...I want to argue about the ambiguity of "drink", but then that means roughly the same amount of alcohol no matter the substance, doesn't it?
11:04:10 syv: Damn volume-variable measurements.
11:04:58 ER: First time I sat quietly and somewhat attentively listened to someone talk about neon genesis evangelon to someone else, which is pretty much my social default anyways. Later I stumbled slightly walking home.
11:05:19 ER: I much more enjoyed the sandwich at that bar
11:06:00 syv: That's honestly not enough of an experience to judge alcohol by.
11:06:24 Devastator: I don't find it tasty, but I find having one or two in a social situation helps loosen me up nicely.
11:06:52 ER: Only really gone for one drink at a time. Stuff doesn't taste good so I don't see a good reason to try pushing past that amount when a little hasn't done anything nice.
11:07:25 syv: Who finds alcohol tasty? Beers, okay, sure, but they're like flavored drinks.
11:07:54 Devastator: Although some people do find specific drinks they like too.
11:08:03 ER: people like beer? welp, guess so. big industry where I live
11:09:28 ER: well, if the goal is to enjoy myself I'll have more fun with a drink that's inherently tasty
11:09:48 ER: due to having tons of suger in it, naturally
11:13:08 ER: damn, guess that song goes into the Refine pot of random ingedients
11:13:32 syv: It makes me want to write about a biomodded psycho hunting a fleshorror.
11:14:30 Devastator:
ER, I might be able to resolve your turn immediately, if you like.
11:14:35 Devastator: That's just asking a question.
11:15:25 Devastator: 1.. 2. and 1.. 2.. 3.
11:15:45 ER: if you do I can't guarantee that I'll come up with something to do next quickly though :V
11:16:01 Devastator: It's okay. I probably won't update until at least, say, Wednesday.
11:19:12 Devastator: So.. what do you want to buy? You know there are many neat items, and almost certainly some magical ones here. You could buy gear for fighting, like maybe magical armour or shiny weapons. For a moment you imagine yourself, encased in shiny metal, invulnerable to damage. Then you think that maybe something more widespread would be good. You might be able to buy amazing tools or seeds or such.
11:19:28 Devastator: The only thing that you're pretty sure of is that you'll need to take it with you. So nothing huge or enormous.
11:20:35 Devastator: Then there's stuff that isn't physical. Maybe someone here can teach you things that would help you in the regular world. I mean, you saw things happen here that don't seem to happen in the normal world, people jumping around, and who knows what kind of secrets could be learned here?
11:21:08 syv: Seeds, if they're useful in some unusual fashion, would not be a bad choice here. Just saying.
11:21:56 Devastator: Or maybe someone could do something to you. Or you could find someone who can help you in the real world from here. Or.. Or.. So many choices.
11:22:14 Devastator: What you do know is that you have a lot of currency, and this is a very large place. There's probably all manner of stuff here for the taking.
11:22:36 syv: spend it all on hookers and blow
11:22:46 Devastator: No reason you couldn't do that.
11:22:56 syv: Are there other birds around?
11:23:00 Devastator: Although you'd have to pay a bit for bird hookers, birds being relatively rare here.
11:23:14 Devastator: Some, but not many. They make up maybe four or five percent of the population.
11:23:20 syv: Does he have enough money to "pay a bit"?
11:25:11 ER: I'm pretty sure I never specified.
11:25:17 syv: Buy the fanciest sportscar you can find
11:25:33 syv: So, definitely female then.
11:25:35 ER: ...you know what they say, you can't take it with you
11:25:55 ER: especially not back the other way
11:25:59 syv: Sportscars take you with them, that's the whole point!
11:26:15 syv: Buy all the guns you can find.
11:26:33 ER: hey
dev, do I know what guns are?
11:27:17 Devastator: Innately? No, but if you go looking for good weapons they're findable.
11:27:18 ER: oh yeah, another downside of getting a car is that I'd have to roll to figure out how to operate a car. again.
11:27:50 syv: Technically one can fit a LOT of guns in their inventory. Technically.
11:28:33 Devastator: The actual city militia has them, or things like them, and you're likely to run into someone from that, or someone who will try to sell you one, if you go looking for weapons.
11:34:19 syv: Buy a teleporter that will bring you back here.
11:34:42 syv: A REUSABLE one, with some kind of settable beacon for the return trip.
11:35:29 ER: learn portal magic and have everyone move to the cat&mouse world.
11:36:55 syv: Probably not the best plan, the Mouse Imperium could fuck us up as bad as the centaurs.
11:38:00 ER: only the cat god can tame Eagle
11:38:23 ER: mices will stand no chance!
11:38:24 syv: Yeah, cats would probably play nice. The mice though, the mice are hardcore.
11:38:59 syv: I don't think birds even naturally have mages.
11:39:21 Devastator: Yeah you do. How'd you get to the god realm in the first place?
11:39:50 syv: My powers at least were pretty underwhelming, and the four of us seem to be about the limit.
11:40:03 ER: rituals don't by definition need mages
11:40:24 syv: That's not exactly enough against a mouse society with a rate of one mage in three hundred. They're *mice*.
11:41:12 syv: With organized armies, combined arms tactics, the whole spiel.
11:41:13 ER: something like fireball throwing might need multiple of them or setup time, though
11:41:39 syv: Well, yes, but fireball throwing is still a bit impressive for our capabilities.
11:41:51 syv: I think they tamed giant flying insects of some kind, yeah.
11:42:03 syv: Plus their floating rock fortresses.
11:42:19 ER: we made the opfor of that game really hardcore, didn't we?
11:42:54 syv: Well, they had to be able to soundly defeat magical cats, so yeah.
11:43:01 ER: success pretty much looks like not letting the mice notice us
11:43:24 syv: Mice winning in a cat vs mouse war is a bit of an unexpected result
11:43:43 Devastator: Your powers aren't flashy, but they're extremely useful.
11:44:13 Devastator: That foraging bonus in particular is very nice.
11:44:44 syv: Mice mages are... well actually they're not very flexible either, but there's a ton of them with a ton of specialties, so they've got goof coverage.
11:45:01 syv: Plus, literally thousands of them.
11:48:29 ER: whereas there should be like, ten living cat mages :I
11:49:19 Devastator: Be glad it isn't down to the rule of two. ;-p
11:49:41 ER: I mean, we could reasonably go that low as well
11:51:04 syv: I thought the number was actually supposed to be around three?
11:52:00 ER: I dunno, I was playing very fast and loose
11:52:10 ER: three sounds like it could be right
11:53:08 ER:
Dev gave us a pretty wide range for the size of the single remaining settlement, and at the very low end we'd have like one mage left
11:54:49 syv: Which, knowing him, would mean no mages left. Else the protag being a mage would give us twice as many as we're supposed to get.
11:55:31 Devastator: I wouldn't let you have no non-PC mages.
11:55:50 Devastator: I'd want at least someone around to answer magic-related questions.
11:56:19 Devastator: Well.. that's a 2 on 1d100 for you..
11:59:30 syv: The society we wrote actually has cats that may understand magic better than mages.
11:59:49 ER: collectors are a fun concept indeed
12:00:08 syv: There's a librarian-like role, collectors of magic items, who would have very strong understanding of how magic works.
12:00:38 syv: And since they have to work with a bunch of other mages' magic, they're less narrowminded than the average cat mage who thinks their way is the only way.
12:16:01 ER: designing hell's geography now because it's both interesting and theoretically important.
12:18:19 ER: I get to name a place Mechurbus :P
12:19:23 syv: Mecherbus. Mecher bus. The bus that mech users take to work?
12:23:05 ER: Condis, the connecting substrate. Ignal, the prime plane of heat. Marsin, prime plane of growth, Aurius, prime plane of water, Hallus, prime plane of emptiness. Urban Ignal, Heat Subplane of Humanity (this is where you were!) Urban Marsin, Urban Aurius, Urban Hallus. Mechurbus, function plane of machines.
12:23:56 syv: I'm guessing prime planes are very bad places to be.
12:25:04 ER: Ignal and Hallus are pretty inhospitable, but won't insantly kill you or anything. Marsin and Aurius are pretty close to earth.
12:35:20 syv: A hive of demons? A giant factory with no OSHA compliance? Both, DOOM style?
12:36:36 ER: It's basically the maintainence layer for the Urbans. Very mechanical. The things that live there are kind of demons and kind of not, because Mechurbus very much exists because of the humans who were sent here.
12:37:56 ER: It's the core fusing the four Urbans, meaning that you can travel through it to any of the others, and from there to the Prime Planes the Urbans connect to.
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12:45:31 ER: Start in Mechurbus, go down a hallway, end up in Urban Ignal, go outside to Ignal and down a cave to Condis, wander a while, Go back up a different way and find yourself in Marsin, stumble onto something weird and pop into Nisram, where your skin rots off
13:59:23 ER: well I've got a thing ready
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15:21:48 piecewise: Nothing that I remember. I usually don't dream. Or at least remember them. When I do they tend to be pretty good though.
15:22:45 ER: any suffering which comes of this can be blamed on him, of course
15:23:15 piecewise: that one you were working on or a different one?
15:24:49 ER: real fuckin' lethal grid tactics game, sorta indirectly stolen from your neon revolver
15:29:59 piecewise: Did you want anything from the neon revolver junk I had?
15:30:04 piecewise: Not sure what I have but I could check
15:30:10 piecewise: maybe a generator in there somewhere
15:35:50 piecewise: You can probably balance things better than I could
15:36:26 ER: if the test is any indication, the dice are WILD. Which is probably appropriate
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15:47:07 parisbre56:
ER: you know, actually writing a short description or summary of what the game is about might be good
15:47:53 parisbre56: Because my first thought after opening the first spoiler was "Oh dear. I'm going to have to read all of this. And then I probably won't have any idea what's going on and have to read it again."
15:49:01 ER: I don't currently have the inspiration to make a description intermediate between five word description and just all the rules
15:50:28 parisbre56: Yeah, but you're giving me all the pieces of the puzzle and a 5 word sentance that describes the image on the box. Having at least a thumbnail of the image on the box would be more useful.
15:50:38 parisbre56: Helps you put the pieces together more easily.
15:51:34 parisbre56: I mean, is it team based? How many people are there? Is it a secret? Will it be revealed later? What is going on?!?!?!
15:52:24 ER: well, on your turn you can move up to your speed and attack in melee as many times as you want. But you get penalties fro repeated attacks and if you fail a melee by enough you trip and end your turn.
15:53:12 ER: guns don't need to roll to hit you if you're in their range and the gun user has enough focus.
15:53:18 parisbre56: Put that in the post. Somewhere prominent. Give an example of a turn. Something like that.
15:53:24 ER: If you get hit by a gun, you'll PROBABLY die
15:56:07 piecewise: Is exploding dice a common enough mechanic that people would understand without my explaiing?
15:56:22 piecewise: or spelling correctly
15:56:44 piecewise: abbot and Costello act over here.
15:56:53 parisbre56: Well, the first time I heard about exploding dice was in one of your games
15:57:04 parisbre56: And I liked the explanation that meant I didn't have to google it
15:57:15 parisbre56: So, put it in the start of the spoiler or something
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17:46:05 Devastator: Should include exploding dice in the gear list for omnicorp.
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21:58:42 midnightjaguar: Eh. I’ll be back later.
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23:29:18 piecewise: Mook melee weapons are done, in description at least.
23:29:29 piecewise: doing a quick turn for MOOK now
23:32:25 Devastator: Oh, read ABGttEotU again last night. I really think it's worth your time.
23:32:43 Devastator: But thanks for all your good work in general.
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