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00:16:56 Devastator: Looks like your wild orgy didn't satisfy you.
00:17:32 ER: that last roll should be 1+1 because I spent power on it
00:18:48 Devastator: Eh, I'd take the 1 power back. I don't know if a 2 would have done better.
00:19:09 ER: UNACCEPTABLE ATTENTION TO DETAIL
00:19:42 Devastator: Maybe you can get die roll guy to throw you a six. ;-p
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03:42:21 Piecewise__: You only spent power on one roll
er
03:42:48 ER: it says "spend 1 power" two times in my action
03:43:09 ER: were you distracted by snek?
03:43:32 Piecewise__: well, 2 isn't much better
03:43:47 ER: yeah I'm keeping that energy anyways~
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04:24:56 ER: Ameripol thread just reached 800000 views
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04:51:28 syv: Maybe it's improved? I stopped following it after Trump got elected.
04:51:58 ER: because a bunch of people got banned in 2016 :V
04:52:22 syv: I figure it's only really useful to watch when there's an election, and otherwise it's just unpleasant.
04:52:36 syv: Yeah, that was around the time I stopped watching.
04:53:01 ER: I figure that it's easier than tyring to figure out what the news is saying myself
04:53:14 ER: just let the b12 hivemind figure it out for me
04:53:16 syv: Mainiac was one of the banned folks, right? Kind've a pity there, he was an asshole, but he was actually pretty good at debates.
04:53:56 syv: Otherwise all the bans were direct improvements, IIRC. Mainiac was kinda... a lateral improvement.
04:56:25 syv: Is
Piecewise_ here? Or
Devastator?
04:56:59 Piecewise_: I'm playing doom but I'm available
04:57:04 syv: I could stream more blind souls. Wasn't planning on it, but if Dubs is around, it's tempting.
04:57:37 Piecewise_: I'm currently just wandering about wondering where the heck this last hell mouth thing is
04:57:58 syv: Not sure if I want to do it without
Dev, since he seems to enjoy it, and I'm pretty close to O&S, which is always the highlight.
04:58:19 syv: I don't think new has Hellmouths, so...
04:58:37 Piecewise_: It has....hell somethings? Big hell spawner things...lemme check the name
04:59:31 Piecewise_: I need to upgrade this pc. Had to bump everything to low and lower the res to get it to run well
05:01:06 Devastator: ..literally four minutes after.
05:01:22 Devastator: Ameripol blew up yesterday.
05:01:48 Devastator: buzzfeed misreported on some leaked data about the Mueller investigation.
05:02:03 Piecewise_: misreports about leaks
05:02:21 Devastator: Yeah. Someone leaked something, and either the leak was wrong or the report was wrong.
05:02:22 ER: that didn't register as an explosion but I skim
05:02:55 Devastator: Looking at the statment made by the campaign it's more like 'We don't deny those allegations, but the specific examples of evidence are not correct.'
05:03:09 Devastator: It looked pretty bad.
05:03:34 Devastator: The leak was essentially "Trump told these people to lie to congress about X subject, and here's interviews, documents, and e-mails demonstrating him giving them orders to do so.
05:03:49 syv: Look at pol only directly before elections.
05:04:08 syv: Though somehow I doubt it'll matter next time.
05:04:15 Piecewise_: They're gonna get this investigation sewn up just in time for the next elections
05:04:29 syv: I'm nigh certain Bay12 will be incapable of changing my vote. :P
05:04:40 Piecewise_: Vote skeleton party
05:04:46 Devastator: It might. That'd bring it a bit short of four years.
05:04:52 Devastator: Reasonable time frame that.
05:05:18 ER: vote for the purple lizards
05:05:28 Piecewise_: well, reasonable in that they'll be able to say "Hey, you got in as president via suspicious means!" right as he stops being president
05:05:36 Piecewise_: did he say he was running again?
05:06:19 Devastator: Oh, after he's gone it'll be the civil penalties about why he didn't pay taxes on the 300 million he inherited that'll get him.
05:07:03 syv: Of course he's running again.
05:07:11 ER: so we getting this stream party started or what?
05:07:13 syv: The only way he won't is if he's somehow barred.
05:07:41 Devastator: rather watch that than talk about pol.
05:07:43 syv: twitch.tv/syvarrisvutheniama
05:08:28 Devastator: stream's not coming up yet for me.
05:09:06 Devastator: could use softer game sounds or louder mic.
05:09:34 Piecewise_: Oh so this is what you meant by blind souls
05:10:13 Devastator: literally blind souls.
05:10:55 Devastator: I watch for the shock effects.
05:10:56 Piecewise_: I see
sy has done what some weirdos have done and refused to move on from ds and instead just modded their game to make things excessively difficult
05:11:22 Devastator: Well, he won't play DS III.
05:11:24 Devastator: oh, finished that,
syv.
05:11:50 Piecewise_: Still have several bosses to do
Dev~
05:11:58 Devastator: I'm sure there's more DLC.
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05:12:11 Devastator: Maybe a bit later. I might take a couple cracks at teleglitch first.
05:12:29 Piecewise_: Teleglitch is pretty good
05:12:37 Devastator: Got to level 8 a few days ago.
05:12:48 Devastator: damn lazer spiders.
05:13:02 Piecewise_: Hey
sy, why aren't you playing shadow tower if you want first person souls like?
05:13:03 Devastator: Also, note the madoka load screens.
05:13:26 Piecewise_: Shadow tower is literally an earlier From Software game
05:13:47 Piecewise_: it has first person combat and even dismemberment
05:14:42 ER:
syv: "I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FAST I REALLY AM"
05:14:44 Devastator: seamless dismemberment or in-engine cutscenes, like DS?
05:15:15 Devastator: special-action animations.
05:15:41 Devastator: Huh, that's actually seamless dismemberments.
05:15:54 ER: ah, reminds me of Eternal Darkness
05:16:00 ER: I should play that some time
05:16:07 Devastator: A bit simpler than MGR: Revengance, but that's interesting.
05:16:34 Devastator: well, the asshole archers are still assholes.
05:17:54 Piecewise_: I can't say this seems like the most enjoyable way to play this
05:18:17 Devastator: I can understand setting absurd arbritrary rules for oneself.
05:18:56 Piecewise_: Not so much the arbitrary rules as this combination of them
05:19:22 Devastator: I did do DS3 without mapping the block key. ;-p
05:19:24 Piecewise_: Also,
sy, why don't you have a +15 weapon you fucking noob
05:20:04 ER: he also hasn't killed pinwheel yet :P
05:20:33 Piecewise_: What kind of loser doesn't have +15 before gargoyles?
05:20:35 Devastator: I think he said Tomb of the Giants is all black, all the time.
05:21:50 Piecewise_: Its too bad they didn't go whole hog with this mod and make it so that sounds created light or something and everything else was totally pitch black
05:21:53 ER: oh yeah how could you kill ingward
05:22:32 Piecewise_: slashing weapons aren't effective on skeletons
05:22:58 ER: that's why I'll turn you into a fleshling first
05:23:23 Piecewise_: Honestly the dumbest thing I've seen was whats his face beating gwyn with fists
05:23:39 Devastator: How long did that take?
05:23:40 a: its probably the knife thats literally a fucking slab of metal with
a handle and weighs about 5 tons
05:23:43 Piecewise_: a two and
a half hour stream of parries
05:24:22 Piecewise_: There's challenge and there's autism
05:24:59 Piecewise_: I don't know why
sy hasn't built
a factorio machine to play ds for him
05:25:04 Piecewise_: thats
a real challenge stream
05:25:52 Piecewise_: Also, for saying that skipping is cheating on
a challenge run, you sure are trying to skip quite hard
05:26:07 Piecewise_: trying, operative word ~
05:27:31 Piecewise_: This FPS view gives us
a great view of these knights' feet
05:27:48 Piecewise_: perfect for all those weirdos who are into that
05:28:34 Piecewise_: Is
sy playing this on
a touch tone phone?
05:29:00 ER: once you beat this, you should use the same mods to play daughters of ash blind.
05:29:23 ER: maybe without the agression
05:29:36 Piecewise_: what is daughters of ash?
05:29:49 ER: you don't know? what
a scrub.
05:29:51 Piecewise_: and why does it sound like
a japanese hack that turns all the enemies into girls
05:30:17 Devastator: I'm sure there is one.
05:30:27 Devastator: And you'd know its name.
05:30:40 Piecewise_: I don't mod ds1 because meh
05:31:15 ER: you don't play DS1 because you're a scrub and
a shit skelly
05:31:30 Piecewise_: I prefer ds3 and BB
05:32:05 Piecewise_: I rarely get beyond OnS in ds1 runs because everything goes to blarg after that
05:32:50 Devastator: the black cutscenes are nice.
05:33:08 Piecewise_: Nice to see some multicultural representation~
05:33:51 Piecewise_: Look at this scrub who has block bound to
a key
05:33:58 Devastator: Dwarven executioner.
05:35:45 Piecewise_: Also, the camera doesn't tumble when you roll
05:38:14 Piecewise_: Crystal Halberd you wuss
05:39:05 Devastator: Should totatlly do that.
05:39:35 Piecewise_: Upgrade your best weapon to crystal. Just to show you're
a man
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05:40:35 Devastator: don't see you too often.
05:40:37 Devastator:
syv's streaming atm.
05:41:48 a: is it supposed to be
a gray screen?
05:42:24 Piecewise_: Play with your window minimized for the true blind mode experience, casual
05:42:24 Devastator: Mostly. Blind souls.
05:42:42 Devastator: he's playing Dark Souls with
a mod reducing vision to an insane degree.
05:43:19 a: so there is literally nothing? you can still see your own weapons , right?
05:43:51 Piecewise_: you can still see
a fair amount
05:44:10 Piecewise_: which Is why he needs to minimize his window and stop being
a casual
05:44:25 a: oh well, I guess my stuff is broken.
05:45:17 Devastator: Just about had them.
05:47:35 Piecewise_: Is having sex with
a cheesecake the height of hedonism?
05:47:46 Piecewise_: He said he had to quit and come back in
a minute
05:47:50 a: gotta do it on
a pile of money
05:48:28 a: remember to eat part of it first
05:48:42 Piecewise_: No, afterwards is more hedonistic
05:48:56 Devastator: I'm enjoying
ER's failure to pull
a zeus.
05:49:17 Piecewise_: he's neither a swan nor
a bull
05:49:22 Piecewise_: this is the problem
05:49:51 a: also, the song I'm listening to is about evil baby with gun, its completely normal
05:51:36 Devastator: That sounds like
a labrynth.
05:51:49 Devastator: go inside arcade machine, encounter angry babies with guns.
05:51:51 Piecewise_: Hard to believe he's still doing stuff
05:53:38 Piecewise_: Why isn't he playing with that mod that switches your weapon every few seconds?
05:54:14 Devastator: That attempt went well.
05:54:39 Piecewise_: I mean, why not? Embrace your autism
05:54:55 Piecewise_: or on
a flight stick
05:55:41 Piecewise_: PLAY IT ON
A CASIO KEYBOARD YOU COWARD
05:56:38 Devastator: Play it on
a calculator.
05:57:51 Devastator: screw that, rig it to an actual piano.
05:58:43 Piecewise_: He's also not doing it hard core and restarting after every death
05:58:54 Piecewise_: clearly he's not
a real fan and he's playing it wrong
05:59:11 Piecewise_: I'll bet this isn't even sl 1
06:01:12 Devastator: you didn't do a souls level 1 midroll no death challenge, while being spun around by your feet like
a tetherball.
06:01:38 Piecewise_: Play with your feet
06:01:50 Devastator: What do they call
a no death challenge, anyway? Lightsign?
06:02:20 Piecewise_: get on discord so I can kick you out
06:02:57 Devastator: I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that.
06:04:16 Piecewise_: Dang it Minus8, stop uploading your work to such erratic places
06:07:49 Devastator: Do I not rate
a ban?
06:08:36 Piecewise_: You're rated T for teen
06:13:16 Piecewise_: 3/10 stream, needs more anime tiddy
06:13:33 Devastator: throw
a fireball at her.
06:16:13 syv: Looks pretty similar. I had been using
a longsword earlier.
06:16:20 Piecewise_: I'm not sure what you were playing, I was idly browsing porn most of it
06:16:40 Piecewise_: check back occasionally to make sure it was another black screen
06:17:05 syv: He named the artist. Google,
Dev.
06:17:24 Devastator: I'm too lazy for that.
06:18:49 Piecewise_: that one got an odd amount of acclaim
06:19:11 Piecewise_: some ign like group actually watched it (censored) on their show
06:19:30 syv: The acclaim isn't odd, then. The fact that IGN watched it is.
06:19:55 syv: Also, go back to your Discord.
06:20:07 syv: We don't need to stain
Paris' site with porn.
06:20:37 Devastator: nice having dubs here.
06:21:39 syv: Have you worked on any of your tactics games recently, Dubs?
06:22:55 syv: What games *have* you been working on, then?
06:23:41 Piecewise_: No. I waited 10 days and got 2 posts so I locked it
06:23:45 syv: ...No, there's five I can think of beyond that one.
06:23:48 Devastator: Well, it gives me reason to talk about things other than the magical girl in your game. ;-p
06:24:29 Piecewise_: I mean, I did talk about some other games I was thinking of in discord earlier today
06:26:07 Piecewise_: Namely 2d city builder in the Divine fuckery vein, a one sided arms race against
a constantly evolving foe, and something involving robots
06:26:35 Piecewise_: but none are that thought out or expanded on
06:27:01 Devastator: Well, if you want the one sided arms race, I'm always available for opfor.
06:27:26 Piecewise_: Playing doom makes me want to do
a game set in that sort of environment but as an ordinary person
06:28:11 syv: That would be uncharacteristically difficult.
06:28:38 syv: If you had
a team it wouldn't be so bad, assuming you could handle the recoil of the guns.
06:29:01 Devastator: Sounds like my cup of tea.
06:30:07 syv: If it were allowed to be tactical--frankly I think that'd be *forced*--then I'd also be into it.
06:31:33 Devastator: Maybe you could do
a competitive kaiju-breeding game like I wanted to do in Battlemobs. But simple rules, not the mess I had.
06:32:28 syv: I'd think it's best if
PW stays away from any kind of breeding game. He'd have to leave B12, and wherever he ended up might make him stay.
06:34:06 syv: That old mutation game, with the vials, could be good. Or something with
a modified version of the genetics game?
06:34:17 syv: Wonder if I still have my notes on that.
06:35:00 Devastator: heh, I know. Instead of luchadors, you could run barbarians! ;-p
06:39:13 Piecewise_: I considered
a barbarian setting where the world was run by corrupt wizards and only brave freedom fighter barbarians could stand up to them because they were resistant to magic. Mostly because they either didn't believe in it or were too dumb to understand it
06:40:56 Devastator: ..That's basically what Barbarians! was. The only real goal was to stomp on all the thrones.
06:41:22 Devastator: And the rules were simple, except when mages showed up, who always had some bullshit.
06:41:35 syv: Hmm. I wonder, out of the hundred modt common nouns, what percentage
Piecewise *hasn't* considered
a game or setting related to?
06:43:06 Piecewise_: I mean, nothing specifically focused on trees as far as memory serves
06:47:18 Piecewise_: I wonder how I could make the chemical injection critter raising thing fun without getting complex
06:47:54 Devastator: so you don't have to run it too long?
06:48:06 syv: Limited vials, have to buy vials, you get random vials for cheaper prices.
06:50:02 syv: PvP, every player starts with a stock of weak but "good" vials, which if used together make
a mostly functional critter.
06:50:36 syv: Maybe add betting, plus some kind of limited mid-battle interrupts. Complex portion would be monster fighting, which is hard to say how to keep simple.
06:50:55 Devastator: Maybe self-inflicted.
06:51:14 Devastator: instead of doing creatures you have to do yourself, and if you lose your mind you can't manage to do anything more.
06:51:16 syv: Could reduce it to
a number of stats which get bonuses/penalties based on your general feelings about the monsters, so that the fights themselves can be resolved with like eight rolls, then fleshed out.
06:53:15 Devastator: Could handle it like warhammer. HP, armour save, odds to land
a hit, special abilities.
06:53:24 Devastator: it'd take
a bit to resolve but wouldn't be that rough under the hood.
06:54:05 Devastator: calibrate things in percentages.
06:55:33 Devastator: There's also usually
a 'number of attacks' thing too. So one more stat.
06:57:14 Piecewise_: I wonder if making it more puzzle based would be fun. Put in an order for
a creature that fills certain parameters, see who gets closest
06:57:31 Devastator: Heh, make it like American Idol.
06:57:52 Devastator: you make
a monster in an hour and have to please the judges.
06:58:52 syv: That could work well, have
a decent monster randomizer, and basic instructions on the vials to start.
06:59:16 syv: If the system is complex and opaque enough, it'd be difficult for players, while not necessarily being hard to resolve.
06:59:19 Devastator: Yeah, you could even use special ingrediants and shared pools for the rest of the stuff.
06:59:39 syv: It would probably become
a co-op game, though.
07:00:26 Devastator: Not if it's like 2v2.
07:00:34 Devastator: then it's co-op, but you won't be cheating.
07:00:41 syv: Even direct PvP games like this tend to have
a lot of emphasis on people sharing knowledge, if they're not even *directly* fighting, that'll only be stronger.
07:00:51 syv: So you'd have to force teams, or
a player limit.
07:01:00 syv: Unless you're fine with co-op, ofc/
07:02:19 Devastator: Yeah, there'd need to be fixed teams, and it'll break down eventually.
07:02:23 Devastator: but no game runs forever.
07:21:33 Piecewise_: the key is to keep it fresh or make the interactions complex enough that people can't readily discover their exact outputs
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08:35:11 Devastator: apparently having
a key of the gods stuffed in your face does things to you.
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20:39:40 Radio_Controlled: Hello there you boulders rolling down the hill again.
20:52:59 Radio_Controlled: Heya Apemantus.
20:53:41 Radio_Controlled: I'm good. Work's been a handful lately but hopefully should drop down
a little again now.
20:54:35 Devastator: been looking for work again, but I've got stuff lined up in March, should I not find anything better.
20:55:32 Radio_Controlled: Anything in particular you're going for, or still in the same vein as last time?
20:56:01 Devastator: This and that. I'll see what comes up.
20:58:20 Radio_Controlled: Well, fingers crossed either way.
20:58:56 Radio_Controlled: Got some light freezing this weekend, some people immediately flip their shit at slightly slippery roads.
20:59:28 Radio_Controlled: I wonder how they'd fare if we sent them up north, hmm. :p
21:00:19 Devastator: So how are you doing?
21:00:27 Devastator: We watched season one of Overlord the other day.
21:00:38 Devastator: and I'm in Nak's 'you are
a monster' game now.
21:01:57 Radio_Controlled: Overlord? That skelly anime
PW always gushes about?
21:02:21 Radio_Controlled: Haven't heard about that game, is it good?
21:03:02 Devastator: It's not bad, although there were some confusion with various orders.
21:03:11 Devastator: I'm pretty sure, yeah, it's about
a skellington.
21:03:37 Devastator: How's the bughunt going?
21:03:38 Radio_Controlled: You like it (the anime)?
21:03:47 Radio_Controlled: Dunno haven't checked in
a while.
21:03:53 Devastator: I wouldn't call it amazing, though.
21:04:01 Radio_Controlled: I evacuated
a spider from my humble abode today though, does that count?
21:04:49 Devastator: Why bother with that? They keep the other bugs gone..
21:05:39 Radio_Controlled: I put it in the basement with the rest of his kin.
21:06:02 Radio_Controlled: I normally leave them well enough alone, yeah, but this one was basically crashing in my bed.
21:06:13 Radio_Controlled: I need that bed!
21:06:39 Devastator: Remember, there are plenty of bugs that crawl all over you while you sleep.
21:06:49 Radio_Controlled: Well I'm not gonna sleep on the floor either.
21:06:55 Devastator: That makes it worse.
21:07:14 Radio_Controlled: Besides, had to put the covers back on the sheets and such so it was for his own good really.
21:07:29 Radio_Controlled: Or he'd be in
a bedsheet prison.
21:12:29 Devastator: Always brightens up the day.
21:13:51 Radio_Controlled: Never heard of that before.
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