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02:51:08 ER: if you take the bottom off this mouse and then hold it in the air right side up, sometimes the battery falls out.
02:52:11 ER: At first I felt frustrated, but then I realized that that's pretty much what's supposed to happen in that situation, and indeed is probably why the mouse has a removeable bottom plate.
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05:34:09 KingMurdoc: obligatory "i'm not
a murloc"
05:54:09 KingMurdoc: just salty about Pumsy's atm
05:55:01 ER: feed me your salt, that I may grow stronger
05:56:34 KingMurdoc: >teammate refuses to give me
a MP heal so i don't die
05:56:41 KingMurdoc: >other teammate dies because of
a glorified waitlister
05:56:58 KingMurdoc: >get hit despite maxed out evasion in every form and taking explicit actions to dodge
05:58:55 ER: Listen, it's never a glorified waitlister if it's holding
a rifle.
06:00:01 ER: Rifles are like, extremely scary to anything that's not
a tank, and even then you have to be cowering inside and have allies riflemen to keep the enemy riflemen from just prying the hatch open and shooting you.
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06:19:26 MidJag:
A kingmurdoc.
A rare site indeed
06:20:58 ER: which I know basically nothing about except that they're, like, frog people? But I'm absolutely sure that
KingMurdoc is one of them
06:23:17 MidJag: Murdoc do you ever feel the compulsion to shoot your tongue at insects and occasionally moisten your skin in freshwater baths?
06:39:37 MidJag: Not bad. Home for thanksgiving break, so mostly just been hanging out with my family
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06:40:54 ER: my sleep scedule seems to have suddenly stopped existing
06:41:23 ER: had to wake myself up for thanksgiving dinner
06:42:25 ER: had
a smaller group this time, 8 people. And I don't dislike any of them!
06:42:44 MidJag: My sleep schedule is simlarlly fucked up.
06:42:56 MidJag: ..Don't quite know why actually
06:43:35 syv: Amazing,
ER. Is your family somehow just entirely good, or were the black sheep just excluded?
06:44:00 syv: Probably all the booze,
MJ.
06:45:32 ER: Extended family on my dad's side are all good to be around. Though I don't tend to talk to people very much and don't use facebook, so maybe I've just taken away all opertunity to hate them. Don't see much of my mom's family except for her brothers and her dad, who are all pretty nice.
06:45:50 MidJag: heh, see that would make sense if it weren't for the fact that I've not been drinking lately or staying out late. I think my brain being told that I don't have to wake up early for anything just decides it doesn't need to sleep until 2.
06:46:05 ER: My mother's... now ex husbund is a bit of
a pain, but due to the ex part he wasn't here.
06:47:46 ER: So our eight was me, my sister, her husbund, our mom and dad, dad's wife, and the my brother in law's moms.
06:49:17 syv cackles with glee, as he's now learned a great deal more about ER's family
06:49:27 syv: I didn't know you have
a sister!
06:50:25 ER: You didn't? Wonder how I avoided saying that for this long.
06:50:55 syv: You virtually never say anything about your life at ALL.
06:51:39 ER: Hmm. Yeah I don't like talking about it too much.
06:51:41 syv: Even your location was only stated because your app had an insane button to announce it automatically, and the one time I was in the area and offered to visit, you declined.
06:52:08 ER: Even talking to people in person I only talk about what I've been doing if they ask or if I have
a funny anecdote.
06:52:17 syv: Which... I don't really mind, but yeah, you're very private. Prolly the most private of any of us.
06:54:03 ER: I just... draw nice neat boundries around different sectors of my life and try really hard to not let anything cross over.
06:54:43 ER: It feels weird to talk to IRL people about people I know online and vise-versa.
06:55:32 syv: Entirely fair. It's not how I work, but I think your method is more normal.
06:55:36 ER: And I think it's a part of why I've had trouble doing schoolwork at home for my whole life. It just feels wrong to do something like that in
a place like that.
06:57:07 ER: It's
a thing. I reject to think about things that pertain to other circles then the one I'm in.
06:57:29 MidJag: heh, honestly it always felt weird doing homework in school until I came to college and that boundary essentially dissolved.
06:58:14 ER: need to pick SOMETHING to explain some of my failings, because they happen too consistantly to be random chance.
06:59:03 syv: I suppose "being compartmentalized" is
a pretty good "failing" to blame things on.
06:59:29 syv: Hey,
MJ, how tired are you/when do you figure you'll be going to sleep?
07:00:04 MidJag: Fairlly tired probs going to sleep in about an hour. Latelly I've been going to sleep at 3 and that's just too damn late for my sleep schedule.
07:00:54 syv: All three of us are here,
Dev isn't, and we still have more AoT to watch. :3
07:04:44 ER: just checked six, it was the last one we saw
07:05:02 ER: what with the childhood trauma and all
07:08:55 MJ: Ping me when everyones ready
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07:14:53 MJ: Could we restart? My apologies
07:15:43 ER: why are you talking, dead guy?
07:16:03 MJ: He's
a tough ass dead guy. He aint got time to die
07:16:28 ER: Oh yeah, I came up with
a funny theory about him
07:16:49 syv: ...Yeah, that is weird. I guess they just decided he would be the narrator for purposes of faking out viewers, then kept it after his death.
07:16:55 ER: he jumped into the titan's mouth as an overshoot, trying to wake up
07:17:18 ER: waking up is a determination roll and he had
a +2, so he got an 8 and died
07:18:03 ER: I like how he talks about the day he died in
a historical tone
07:18:32 MJ: So now I bet it's going to be another 7 episodes of talking
07:18:58 MJ: and then all of the dead people come back and get slaughtered even more brutally this time
07:19:02 ER: I like the parts of the intro where the humans blot out the skies with their bodies
07:19:18 ER: like the imperial guard's approach to blotting out the sun with arrows
07:19:32 MJ: I thought they made new suns with lasers
07:20:07 syv: He prolly means the non-40k Warhammer?
07:21:31 ER: hmm, so their suits need fuel
07:21:46 syv: I think they literally mean pressurised air.
07:21:52 MJ: I question how they make it
07:22:12 ER: who would call pressurized air "gas"
07:23:08 MJ: Pretty sure I'm right though
07:24:07 syv: Paintballers? Anyone who uses pressurised air regularly while not using gasoline?
07:25:27 ER: she has almost supernatural calm
07:26:11 MJ: I think when you see your parents get murdered in front of you and almost raped and then you kill
a guy you can classify literally any day as not your worst day
07:26:14 syv: Kill the stress with anger. And commit suicide.
07:26:15 ER: oh, this is where she vents that
07:27:56 MJ: It's gotta be something with more Delta V than Air
07:28:10 MJ: ..I think I'm using that term correctlly
07:28:26 ER: delta v is change in velocity
07:28:59 ER: usually measures how much you can get out of the fuel you're carrying
07:29:05 MJ: See. Only second worst day.
07:29:05 syv: NOTHING has enough delta-v to propel
a human so fast for so long with so little volume.
07:29:13 syv: It's already magic, so it might as well be gas.
07:29:40 ER: I figure they gain speed by jumping off buildings
07:30:09 syv: They spend far too much time above rooftops.
07:30:52 syv: This show is just constant suffering, isn't it? Just killing off characters every ep now.
07:31:06 syv: All the titans are so *happy*, though!
07:31:15 MJ: They really enjoy their job
07:31:36 ER: that's called will to survive
07:32:22 ER: it's called wanting to be the hunter
07:32:29 MJ: Let's fucking see that super steroids go to work
07:32:46 syv: ...Aww fuck. Now I recall this.
07:33:05 syv: I forgot about this spoiler.
07:33:11 MJ: Damn, that guys fucking ripped
07:34:50 MJ: See this is why you inject your kids with massive amounts of completelly untested drugs. They either die screaming about spiders or become
a titan.
07:35:26 syv: Yeah, all titans have that.
07:35:37 ER: punch them so hard both their head oand your hand are vaporized
07:35:38 syv: It's why they can't be killed by cannons.
07:35:39 MJ: I know but it's the first time we get to see it
07:36:46 MJ: heh, they call their gear odium gear?
07:37:10 syv: No clue what it stands for.
07:37:56 ER: "the minifestation of humanity's rage"
07:38:25 syv: Irritates me. He should'v3 stayed dead.
07:38:50 syv: Suddenly I'm not sure if they've killed ANY developed characters.
07:39:04 ER: meet
a threat that is so op that you can't realistically deal with it, tons of people die, the survivors devlop bullshit op abilities.
07:42:29 syv: Should google the translation for this.
07:43:09 MJ: I do love that motion animation example they had
07:43:28 MJ: 'll have to find you
a copy of that book sometime
syv
07:43:37 MJ: It's kinda long even for me though
07:44:09 MJ: One of the chars moves like that.
07:44:10 syv: Nah. If it's just one character for
a small portion, I've got way better to read.
07:44:54 MJ: IIRC there is anthoer stand alone book that focsses soley on one other charecter who moves like that
07:45:12 syv: You know, the last episode only really did *one* thing: establish the existence of this titan.
07:45:16 MJ: If I find it read it and think it's good I'll send it to you
07:45:23 syv: This show really has horrid pacing.
07:45:44 MJ: Oh but we got to see some lovely pyschological breakdowns
07:45:47 ER: it did that, and it killed off
a bunch of faceless but screaming people
07:46:09 syv: That *does* count for something, I suppose.
07:46:32 MJ: Useless, but nice enough filler
07:46:44 ER: and established the main conflict of this part of the story. that they're out of gas and need to get to the HQ, which is covered in titans
07:47:44 syv: Still, it was like four times as long as it needed to be for that.
07:48:18 ER: also developed some character stuff...
07:48:19 syv: Who spells "John" like that?
07:48:40 MJ: I thought it was like
a French name
07:49:36 ER: they break though walls by giant faceplant
07:49:58 MJ: I mean if I was stupidlly strong and had insta regen I would tottally break walls with my face
07:51:22 MJ: That is just not
a happy titan
07:51:34 MJ: He needs to get happier like the rest of them
07:51:45 ER: I do have to appreciate how weird the titans can be
07:52:02 syv: They fit perfectly into the uncanny valley!
07:52:36 MJ: I bet guns are good for stunning
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07:53:54 MJ: I like freckles guy, he's like the naive 50's optimist
07:54:09 MJ: I think they're using buckshot
07:54:21 syv: They said that they're using buckshot.
07:55:00 ER: ...did they call it buckshot back when muskets were used?
07:55:25 ER: sounds like
a word for sheel
07:56:01 ER: why won't the guys with blades be stunned by the flash?
07:56:50 MJ: I like her eternal obssesion
07:57:48 ER: huh, why didn't they set up more people in the rafters than there were titans to kill? or did they?
07:58:00 MJ: I don't think they had enough
07:58:18 syv: Did they need more than one or two people per titan, shooting?
07:58:38 syv: I think they had plenty, and Armin was just being foolishly efficient.
07:58:44 ER: might need four per titan. Two shots per eye
07:59:05 MJ: I can't stop laughing at that image.
08:00:35 MJ: Determination is defined as killing somebody with your mouth, because fuck having arms.
08:01:15 MJ: I thought he was like integrated not like actually just like
a mech pilot
08:01:37 ER: maybe they all have humans in that spot
08:01:58 syv: That would explain thr vulnerability.
08:02:07 ER: meat mechs made by
a dead civilization which went haywire
08:02:30 MJ: Also would explain why the eat people
08:02:40 MJ: Gotta have pilots for the meat mechs
08:03:03 ER: that... doesn't really make sense
08:03:06 syv: They eat way too many people, and too brutally.
08:03:43 MJ: Nah, you like eat people and then the meat mech integrates them before the Titans split apart via Mitosis
08:03:48 syv: The weak and the successful. -.-
08:04:30 ER: I'm glad that we can be
a positive influence on your life,
MJ~
08:05:14 MJ: I'll do one more and then I'm actually done. My bro's playing BFV outside my room so I feel less bad about being up at this hour.
08:05:36 Devastator: birdgame orders,
MJ?
08:05:49 ER: a mainstream shooter? what
a scrub.
08:06:00 Devastator: Yeah, KM being salty is definately something I'm into.
08:06:06 Devastator: Can understand that.
08:06:08 syv: NuDoom is mainstream, and also good.
08:06:19 syv: I'm happy he came to talk to me about it.
08:06:47 Devastator: Yeah. You guys have
a good exchange?
08:07:05 ER: Doom4 secretly isn't a shooter, but
a brawler.
08:07:45 MJ: My Bro is way more competitive then me so it's pretty entertainig watching him play competitive shooters.
08:08:23 ER: does his username have Xes incasing it?
08:08:36 Devastator: He heard of Allegiance?
08:08:55 syv: He ever play Ghost Recon Phantoms?
08:09:15 MJ: I don't belive so
Dev. and I don't want him to because he would get wayy to into it. I belive he has actually played Phantoms but not Tribes.
08:09:28 syv: Tribes is kinda like AoT's movement.
A little. Vaugely.
08:09:56 syv: Tell him there's some people working on reviving phantoms by making their own server architecture for it.
08:10:24 syv: Removal of all the p2w, and possibly
a rebalance/nerf of the more OP stuff.
08:10:52 ER: huh, so they're making the scouts inot characters?
08:11:00 MJ: heh, I'll tell him, he'd probably be into it. Once he stops cursing me for reminding him about the OP stuff and P2W.
08:11:09 Devastator: Can understand that. A bit of
a shame, though, Alleg is the best game ever made.
08:12:26 syv: He's
a veteran ace, when all the people before were rookies.
08:12:27 MJ: So they don't know that the abnormal is Armin?
08:12:41 syv: ...Armin isn't an abnormal.
08:13:30 ER: spinny slash seems impractcal but looks so cool
08:13:40 MJ: I'm kinda suprised they dont get burned by the blood
08:15:17 ER: too bad they don't have cyborg legs and shit
08:15:24 MJ: I think this is during the last episode
08:15:50 syv: They should very well know whether the wall's been destroyed. It's huge, you can't see anything else.
08:16:13 MJ: Nah, I mean with the scouts
08:16:39 MJ: huh, so they're like the Sarlacc
08:17:04 MJ: Also he should be bleeding like
a lot. He's missng two different limbs
08:17:25 syv: He is bleeding, he's just up to his neck in blood already.
08:18:11 ER: I said before he had +2 determination, but this is like
a +8
08:18:22 MJ: He's on combat drugs now
ER.
08:18:48 Devastator: So like that british guy who ran out of blood?
08:19:59 ER: the answer to that question
08:20:25 syv: Some of them should've been hanging from
a wall.
08:20:34 MJ: So to fix everything they just need to feed Jaeger to Titans
08:20:46 MJ: Like just keep it up in
a steady flow.
08:21:54 MJ: I think that they just burn internally
08:22:10 syv: Their bodies shrivel up and blacken.
08:22:10 ER: Jaeger just stomped one into
a skeleton
08:22:40 syv: There were some that Black killed which did that in seconds.
08:23:46 MJ: The villans for this piece are not great
08:24:12 MJ: Although I do kinda like how stressed the guy looks
08:24:17 syv: He's not so much a villain, as
a powerful person who's absolutely terrified.
08:25:35 syv: "Talk to me!" *talks to the other person*
08:25:41 ER: ...how is she intimidating them with cannons pointed at her
08:25:52 syv: They don't want to kill her, and she's an idiot.
08:25:59 MJ: If they shoot her they can't use her for killing Titans
08:26:13 MJ: and she's got bad risk assement skills.
08:27:27 MJ: I wonder where his dad is in all of this.
08:29:12 MJ: That's pretty fucking badass
08:29:22 MJ: Also is she in his ribcage?
08:29:56 MJ: Alright, I'll watch one more
08:29:56 Devastator: Oh,
MJ,
ER, still need birdgame orders from you two.
08:30:04 syv: How the hell he can suddenly control his transformation so well despite having no idea what's going on is
a major question.
08:30:12 Devastator: I'll try for another update on monday if they're in by then.
08:30:21 syv: You two go do that now. Before next ep.
08:30:32 MJ: I think the key is supposed to trigger the memories after he goes Titan once
08:30:41 ER: Also he remembers an entire conversation over the course of half
a second.
08:30:59 ER: Hell, maybe he was trained in the power than that's part of what was erased
08:31:04 Devastator: It's not that urgent. But
ER's in
a wide-open situation and I have no idea what he's going to try next.
08:31:22 syv: It takes like two minutes to write orders.
08:31:46 MJ: Why can't they just have JAeger do like penance or something by like killing titans?
08:31:48 ER: I thought we were ending with that one?
08:31:56 MJ: ANd just not let him into the walls
08:32:08 MJ: and throw food to him every now and then
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08:32:22 syv: Well, that answers that,
ER isn't watching anoth-.
08:32:29 syv: (
MJ) Alright, I'll watch one more
08:33:01 MJ: I am not
a smart man. You all will learn this in time.~
08:33:20 syv: Seriously though, you two, go send orders.
08:35:31 ER: I already knew that
MJ. After all, we do have some things in common.
08:37:13 MJ: Dunkus isn't super sure his move here
08:37:38 ER: insult their intellegence and demand to speak with their manager
08:38:04 Devastator: Feel free to ask questions.
08:38:10 ER: that is *literally* what my action is
08:38:14 Devastator: Sent you your fact,
ER.
08:39:04 MJ:
Dev the circles of the swiftrunners. Are those circles near the lizard people cirlceS?
08:39:52 syv: GRAH CIRCLES ARE AN ABOMINATION UPON THIS WORLD
08:41:03 Devastator: They're near the one that you drew.
08:41:19 Devastator: Not the one of
a bird, not the ones for the lizard peoples.
08:41:36 Devastator: They drew
a couple of circles near the circle with the swiftrunner.
08:44:15 MJ: There aren't like any hills or something that would prevent the lizard people from gettting an accurate number of swifrunners?
08:44:28 Devastator: You think they may be limited by the fact they can't fly.
08:45:39 ER: many creatures have such
a tragic condition so as to not have functional wings
08:45:49 Devastator: It isn't quite flat, and there's
a fair amount of vegitation around, but it isn't something birds are tactically concerned with.
08:46:01 ER: it's sad, but nature can sometimes be cruel like that
08:46:35 Devastator: The river has about four or five meter banks.
08:46:57 syv: I thought he'd write faster.
08:47:01 MJ: I'm getting there. I'm
a slow writer
08:47:05 Devastator: There is
a notably lower bit opposing each other, near each camp.
08:51:08 syv: You know, why was there only 20% of the pop in the outer circle?
08:51:20 MJ: It's all farmland I would assume
08:51:35 MJ: The inner walls would be more cities perhaps?
08:51:40 syv: ...That would make sense, but then how have they survived since without farmland?
08:51:48 ER: some people presumably evacuated successfully
08:52:08 syv: I wonder if titans can be butchered and made edible.
08:52:29 ER: ...they appear to be made of meat, so sure
08:52:48 ER: guess that can make you the predator, not the prey
08:52:57 MJ: I rember they said they had problems with shortages and starvation so perhaps they've been francticallt converiting cities into farmland and dealing with the resulting overcrowding as it pops up
08:54:31 ER: potato fails to be
a role model
08:54:45 MJ: see potatoe girl is immune to PTSD all of her emotions are devoted to food
08:54:59 ER: she's hungry and therefore want to be carted with the wounded
08:55:47 syv: I prefer havibg my arm out.
08:56:31 MJ: heh, he's like in an Avatar of war
08:56:34 ER: yup, that's basically
a meat mech
08:57:42 syv: He only generated the upper half.
08:58:00 MJ: I keep forgetting it's just
a mech.
08:58:12 syv: Also, all the meat vaporized.
08:59:10 MJ: But it also gives him regernation so hell if I know
08:59:34 MJ: So just punch him in the face.
08:59:57 ER: more like his body turns into the titan, and part of the titan is
a human body on the spine
09:00:20 syv: "You're not well because your nose is bleeding! Not because you keep turning into
a fifteen meter tall monster!"
09:00:44 MJ: Are we going to see some wacky misadevntures among the trio of main cast? :P
09:00:58 ER: more like that indicates that transforming could have side effect
09:01:46 Devastator: Eh, wait until next episode where the dude starts vomiting blood.
09:02:51 MJ: I feel like Jaeger occasionally goes for
a snake pliskin voice
09:03:58 ER: they're talking, time doesn't pass
09:04:01 MJ: Talking is
a free action apperentlly
09:04:16 MJ: Even in the only point in time where it's not
09:04:23 ER: "hey, turns out int can make up for str!"
09:04:26 syv: Hair waving in the wind, eyes wide, suddenly realizing people care about him, he;s fallen in loooove~!
09:04:53 syv: I hope the cannon fires and kills someone.
09:05:12 MJ: Super adrenaline and titan bro. Tottally act as non agressive as possible. easy.
09:06:18 MJ: This is apparently where Int can sub as Cha.
09:06:43 ER: it works if you can munchkin hard enough
09:06:46 syv: Cha is just skillpoints from int invested in persuasion.
09:09:13 Devastator: someone names
a titan pixie?
09:09:27 ER: nah, he's the human commander
09:09:33 syv: The commander of like
a quarter of the forces.
09:09:46 syv: "It wouldn't be bad to be eaten by a titan, if it was
a sexy lady"
09:10:03 syv: ...And not the guy literally named "voreman".
09:11:31 MJ: I swear I've heard that voice before
09:11:35 Devastator: They call him voreman because he hates vore.
09:11:57 syv: I think that's pretty standard in this world.
09:12:23 syv:
A lot of anime VAs, Eng and Jap, voice lots of chars in lots of shows.
09:12:44 syv: Oh. There's
a lot more land in those walls than the OP implies.
09:13:00 syv: "I don't know if I can, but I'll do it!"
09:13:03 ER: Yeah, that's how they could farm livestock...
09:13:21 MJ: I mean it's supporting all of humanity. one would hope it's pretty big
09:13:42 syv: They farm livestock in the inner walls, too. That's all they are, really.
09:14:01 Devastator: If they're heavily space-limited why the hell are they farming livestock?
09:14:17 syv: We can watch the last four episodes tomorrow.
09:14:17 ER: They HAD
a little more space.
09:14:58 ER: But yeah, they seem to have countryside and even wilderness, the walls are just fuckoff hueg
09:14:59 syv: Yeah. "Because they could afford to, and some people were willing to pay lots of money for it."
09:15:13 Devastator: if they're not starving it's not
a problem.
09:15:39 ER: like, they managed to fence in a small country behind
a massive stone wall.
09:15:58 ER: And then made two more walls inside there
09:16:00 syv: I still think that was just magic.
09:16:17 Devastator: Just wait, there will be an inner inner wall.
09:16:23 ER: I think they were more technolgically advanced back then.
09:16:46 ER: there is an inner inner wall, that's like basic information.
09:16:48 syv: There is in fact an inner inner wakl.
09:17:16 Devastator: Is there
a citadel inside the inner inner wall?
09:17:17 syv: It was stated within the first, what, ten minutes?
09:17:19 ER: That's like, in the opening and the first episode and is pretty much just part of the whole setup
09:17:23 syv: Yes. This was also stated.
09:17:39 Devastator: There
a keep inside the citadel inside the inner inner wall?
09:18:00 syv: Pretty sure the citadel *is* the keep.
09:18:02 ER: Though I'm guessing
a humanity forced back to the final wall would just starve.
09:18:22 MJ: Nah, just radically reduce pop through starving
09:18:26 syv: They'd probably survive, but with
a very very small pop.
09:18:44 syv: Only soldiers and their dependants would be allowed to survive, something like that.
09:18:51 ER: Enough to keep genetic diversity enough to not die that way?
09:19:16 MJ: That stuffs weird. Answer would be maybe.
09:19:55 Devastator: You need about five hundred people for that.
09:20:12 Devastator: fifty if you've only got to live one generation bottlenecked.
09:20:34 ER: Probably can support that in the innermost wall, but not past that
09:20:37 syv: I could see five hundred fitting.
09:20:54 syv: Maybe
a thousand, who knows. They've given variable depictions for how big it is.
09:21:12 Devastator: If you can store it underground you can stuff enough supplies for quite
a long time if you only need 500 people.
09:21:31 ER: I'm sure there are nerds on the internet who could give you an exact measurement for area :P
09:22:08 syv: Prolly multiple factions, one for each separate depiction.
09:22:20 syv: And
a couple extra who calculate it from something else entirely.
09:23:00 ER: take the size of the army from one shot, work from that to total poulation, and from that to area in which they live. Sure.
09:24:15 MJ: But there's also woodland and forests and stuff
09:24:25 MJ: So you would have to add in like non arable land
09:25:24 Devastator: Okay, that's pretty silly.
09:25:25 ER: of course, that's another reason for livestock... land that you can't grow on very well.
09:25:43 Devastator: Yeah, but that would also be 'land you don't incude inside your giant-ass wall.'
09:26:11 syv: Pretty sure their wall is magic
09:26:25 ER: Sometimes you don't get to choose where you build your giant fuck off wall
09:26:59 ER: such as, I dunno, when the vast majority of the species is being eaten by invincible monsters. Might make planning hard.
09:27:02 MJ: Maybe the mage who made it was haveing an off day and part of the wall has really steep slopes or something
09:27:09 Devastator: Generally, you get to choose where you build the wall.
09:27:41 ER: And it covers such
a large area, it would be hard to include absolutely no forests
09:27:43 Devastator: Did they just find it or something?
09:28:31 ER: The wall may or may not be built by the predesessors of the current occupants.
09:28:52 ER: Like, maybe the titans made it so that some humans could be saved for later
09:29:25 Devastator: Ahh, forward thinking giant space monsters.
09:29:43 ER: maybe there was just always
a firkkin wall there, and the people who lived behind it happened to survive when the world got eaten
09:30:48 ER: They do make it clear that they can't actually repair the wall or build new ones, so either they didn't build it or their technology and/or magic has regressed.
09:32:00 Devastator: Okay, so they didn't build it.
09:32:05 Devastator: makes more sense then.
09:33:23 Devastator: You still question things.
09:33:24 ER: how do those ODMs work? Magic.
09:33:45 ER: And pressurized air tanks I guess?
09:33:56 ER: Could be something other than just air
09:34:28 ER: it generates a LOT of thrust from
a small tank of propellant.
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09:54:56 ER: hmm, not the most interesting conversion I've heard
09:55:26 ER: mostly just sounds like
a faster version
09:55:29 Devastator: It's too close to actual music!
09:56:10 syv: Yeah. I think it's because KA actually sings to the beat pretty well.
09:56:28 syv: Most of the "good" halfbeat songs, the singer is just saying words with backing.
09:57:08 ER: thanks for making me
a thing, please contenue to make things for me~
09:57:46 syv: Might make
a script that lets you just do that to ANY song, if I can untangle the mess that is Audacity's scripting plugins.
10:00:05 ER: That script almost certainly already exists, and probably was used in the creation of at least half the backbeat videos on youtube
10:00:21 ER: and goes mostly uncredited, of course
10:01:21 syv: I couldn't find one already made, though.
10:07:15 ER: Think I like AoT more than I expected to, but my expectation was probably not very well thought out because it's easy for me to like things.
10:07:30 ER: And swords. Swords are cool.
10:08:46 ER: Revealing that whatshisface not only survived, but has unique magical powers is
a little... questionable.
10:09:39 ER: I did kinda suspect he'd come back in some way, given how he had that key and it wasn't explained yet.
10:10:09 Devastator: of course! Don't you know keys make people buff?
10:10:48 ER: I think they key just activates his memories, and unlocks the cellar. Not an overtly magical item itself.
10:11:46 ER: I mean, the memory erasing drugs are pretty magical, but they're magic acting on the key, not the other way around.
10:11:51 syv: Swords are cool, but guns are cooler.
10:11:54 Devastator: What days does kill six billion demons updates on again?
10:12:06 syv: That's pretty much 100% of the reason I went with Jormungand.
10:12:16 ER: Then why can a sword kill a titan, but
a gun can't? Huh?
10:12:30 ER: tuesday and friday, I think
10:13:22 Devastator: I thought guns could kill titans, they just didn't.
10:13:40 ER: You know, the mobility suited soliders should probably at least carry
a pistol, in case that comes in handy.
10:14:43 ER: Well, cannons can kill if you get a perfect hit. Handguns... would probably need
a LOT of people firing all at once on the same spot to penetrate.
10:15:13 Devastator: Eh, just need another titan.
10:15:26 Devastator: titan with handgun should do it.
10:15:45 ER: titan don't need no handgun
10:16:31 ER: He punches one do hard that his hand and the target's head both explode.
10:19:33 syv: They've got muskets and cannons, so I guess they could have flintlock pistols, but that seems of very debatable use.
10:19:48 ER: They have muskets, I don't see why they wouldn't have pistols other than mad tech disparity.
10:20:12 syv: Especially considering the implied mild dystopia, where the inner guard seems to be police, with anti-human weapons, while the army has strictly anti-titan weapons.
10:20:27 syv: Recall how the guy who brought in the muskets said they were from the royal guard or something.
10:20:56 ER: I mean, they explicitly have
a king and military police, so it's pretty dystopian.
10:21:23 syv: Just having royalty and military police doesn't mean dystopia.
10:21:34 ER: But if they have muskets for anti-human use, they probably have pistols for
a similar role.
10:22:42 syv: ...And why would they give those to the sacrificial soldiers who thy send to die, regularly?
10:23:00 Devastator: the police would naturally have anti-human weapons.
10:23:18 Devastator: Military for external force, police for internal security.
10:23:35 ER: They carry like six blades for their swords, they could afford to carry
a back up weapon.
10:24:44 syv: I think it's implied they have knives.
10:25:03 ER: Never know what you might face.
10:25:06 syv: The people in charge distinctly DON'T want them rebelling, when they have
a fairly good reason to.
10:25:34 syv: But they do know what they'll face. Titans. And they have
a high enough death rate that other things just aren't an issue.
10:25:44 syv: So you lose 5% extra soldiers to humans, so what?
10:26:02 syv: Hell, issuing pistols could even gurt morale.
10:26:13 Devastator: I still don't get the issue with arming each force for the expected opposition for each.
10:26:21 ER: so 5% means the difference between life and death
10:29:51 Devastator: That's everyone's orders. I'll update monday.
10:32:46 Devastator:
MJ befriended some hostile creatures. Of course, the next question is what does he do with them.
10:33:44 Devastator: Heh, also noticed Katia having to stand on her tail to keep it from wagging.
10:34:06 syv: I noticed that the first time >.>
10:39:45 Devastator: That could get worrying.
10:40:54 Devastator: Katia with actual resources.
10:41:32 Devastator: I think it'll be some time before the next setback, but the next one will be
a doozy.
10:43:29 syv: Who knows, maybe she could just stay happy?
10:43:38 syv: I bet it'll be Gharug, next time.
10:43:55 Devastator: I really have no idea what will be the next setback.
10:44:13 Devastator: It could be the orc.
10:44:27 Devastator: but if it's the orc, I think that'll come quickly.
10:44:35 Devastator: as in ten minutes after leaving the city.
10:46:30 Devastator: I think it'll take
a bit because next time there will be collateral or something.
10:47:35 Devastator: regular bandits turning into
a forest fire or something.
10:50:42 Devastator: but yeah, no idea what it'll be. Just thinking it'll be big.
10:54:55 Devastator: Maybe she'll get kinapped by the cultists outside the town and will never be allowed to leave Kvatch.
10:56:31 syv: Still needs to end up in imperial prison.
10:56:48 syv: Come to think of it, she really needs
a reason to leave Anvil. And travel past Skingrad.
10:57:15 Devastator: Only if she's the main character.
10:57:22 Devastator: she might have outlevelled starting character stats.
11:00:22 syv: Katia started with pretty much zero stats.
11:00:49 syv: So all her gains are her getting back up to "average"
11:01:15 syv: If she gains ten levels over the course of the story, that means she started at level -10. :P
11:02:35 Devastator: I still think she had normal stats to start with, just suffering from the zero luck rendering all her skills 40 points below par.
11:04:13 syv: Starting luck gives +40 points? Or, zero luck gives -30-40? Seriously?
11:05:39 Devastator: You start at 40 luck.
11:06:07 syv: Kevin just batted at my shirt as I was walking past the table, got his claws stuck in the back of it, and was dragged off the table as ai continued to walk.
11:06:09 Devastator: zero luck instead drops all your starting skills the equivalent of 40 points.
11:06:28 Devastator: ..but it isn't quite as bad as that.
11:06:36 syv: I seriously doubt each point of luck counts as
a whole skillpoint.
11:06:38 Devastator: More like half, really.
11:07:03 Devastator: Don't forget, you also add the effect of the governing stat to the effective skill level.
11:07:04 syv: I thought it was like 20% as effective as the relevant stat, and even then wasn't huge.
11:07:20 Devastator: stats give other benefits, though.
11:07:25 Devastator: and increase faster than luck.
11:07:41 syv: ...With proper optimizing.
11:07:50 syv: Oblivionss mechanics are all insane.
11:08:16 Devastator: Sadly, when they decided to consolidate things they fixed it and broke it at the same time.
11:08:31 Devastator: fixed what was wrong and introduced new problems.
11:08:31 syv: Skyrim's mechanics are less insane but more terrible.
11:08:47 syv: While Morrowind's mechanics are also insane but at least have
a kind of logic.
11:09:03 Devastator: Morrowind was brutally insane, but there are no wrong moves.
11:09:25 Devastator: Did you get around to actually playing that?
11:09:30 syv: *shove sword through
a dude's face* "Your skill level is to low to stab this person. Miss."
11:09:36 Devastator: Sounds like you did.
11:09:47 syv: Morrowind? I played it many years ago. Had
a copy on Xbox.
11:09:54 Devastator: Ooh, the bad version. ;-p
11:10:07 syv: Spent the entire time leaping around to levek up and being very confused as to where I was.
11:10:16 Devastator: and attacking things with no fatigue.
11:10:17 syv: Stole
a lot of stuff so everyone hated me.
11:11:34 Devastator: Sounds pretty normal for the standard morrowind playthrough.
11:12:50 syv: At that age, Halo was much more my speed.
11:13:14 syv: And nowadays, Morrowind also loses my interest because I feel obliged to mod it, and that's
a whole can of worms.
11:16:04 Devastator: Yeah, that's rough.
11:16:28 Devastator: There's lots of good stuff you can do to it, including much stuff that outright makes it far better, but in combination you lose the charm.
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20:08:27 er: Good job, now you get to experience body-latency.
20:10:35 er: I'm going to guess that you won't be able to defeat that witch using a single body, with no backup, while hallucinating, and with
a communications lag.
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