ERLOG 2018-11-14

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01:22:33 syv has joined #einsteinianroulette
01:23:12 syv: I see a guest2, now I wonder who.
01:29:23 guest2: hello
01:29:37 guest2: no one special, just dropping by
01:31:34 syv: But that makes you special!
01:32:01 syv: Most denizens are either fully typical, or silent as rocks--just look at the userlist for proof of the latter.
01:32:21 syv: So who are you? :3
01:33:18 guest2: fully typical?
01:33:47 syv: Absolutely and entirely.
01:34:24 guest2: I mean, I get that maybe Bemmu and Aoshima are generally silent as rocks.
01:35:17 syv: Paris is too, most of the time, though he's justified by logging for us. Dev is, around... half the time?
01:36:00 guest2: early morning and midafternoon would be my guess as to when he's typically on
01:36:15 syv: Beyond that, we get me, ER, MJ, and sometimes Radio in the mornings. Lately a, too, though he doesn't speak.
01:36:23 guest2: so, by fully typical you mean in terms of posting practices
01:36:33 syv: Pancaek?
01:36:55 guest2: no thanks, I'm not very hungry
01:37:01 syv: Mm.
01:37:11 guest2: -sigh-
01:37:23 guest2: perhaps if Ibadly mistyped a few sentences you'd get it in one
01:37:49 guest2: not that it matters, I'm just here to lurk.
01:38:06 syv: Dev is on generally a few hours from now, staying for awhile. That's late evening to night for me, think it's early early morn--ahh. You.
01:38:42 guest2: yes, me. Sorry to disappoint
01:38:52 syv: We have logs right now, so if you just want to read what goes on you don't actually have to be around.
01:39:11 syv: https://parisbre56.com:9992/cgi-bin/cgitest.pl?date=1542153600
01:39:31 syv: Dev will probably be around within a few hours, if you want to talk to him.
01:39:36 syv: Bye now~
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01:42:41 guest2: logs are inconsistent and are a matter of the past.
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06:05:10 AoshimaMichio: Rocks are not silent
06:05:21 AoshimaMichio: they conduct sound rather far
06:05:51 AoshimaMichio: They hear sounds from the Deep
06:06:13 AoshimaMichio: They were here before human civilization
06:06:50 AoshimaMichio: In time before time, they saw Outsiders walking on Earth
06:07:16 AoshimaMichio: They saw when Outsiders spawned their servants
06:07:46 AoshimaMichio: They saw when Old Ones sealed them
06:07:58 AoshimaMichio: They will be here when Time ends
06:08:07 AoshimaMichio: Rocks are eternal
06:08:16 AoshimaMichio: Praise Rocks
06:08:18 AoshimaMichio: Amen
06:08:52 ER: all of our rocks will become star fuel long before time ends.
06:09:42 ER: Rocks last no longer than flesh, on a cosmic time scale.
06:11:25 AoshimaMichio: Your understanding about Reality is lacking
06:11:40 AoshimaMichio: Worship Rocks
06:12:36 AoshimaMichio: Do not badmouth rocks
06:12:58 AoshimaMichio: Their memory is flawless
06:13:00 ER: Your worship is nothing and your god is dust. Now go back to sleep and await oblivion with the rest of us.
06:13:46 AoshimaMichio: Rocks never sleep. We wait and watch. Forever.
06:14:28 AoshimaMichio: We saw death of Old Gods
06:14:37 AoshimaMichio: We saw birth of New Gods
06:14:51 ER: Rocks are trapped within the sleep of death, they may listen but never speak, and all that they hear shall disappear, never to be remembered.
06:15:10 AoshimaMichio: But rocks remember
06:15:12 AoshimaMichio: Always
06:15:24 AoshimaMichio: Everything
06:15:59 AoshimaMichio: Time is a wheel. After every Ending follows a new Beginning.
06:16:11 ER: Rocks remember nothing. Ask a rock what things were like before, and you'll hear no answer.
06:16:43 AoshimaMichio: Because those are things men are not meant to hear
06:16:53 AoshimaMichio: Watchers
06:17:00 AoshimaMichio: Eternal librarians
06:17:28 ER: Silt and sediment, born from fire and due to die in fire. Dumb matter that forms and is destroyed for no purpose!
06:18:18 ER: Humanity shall hear what we like. There is nothing we are meant to hear, because we are assigned no purpose.
06:18:39 AoshimaMichio: Life has purpose
06:18:46 AoshimaMichio: It is to Begin, and to End
06:18:53 AoshimaMichio: It is purpose in itself
06:19:09 AoshimaMichio: We have seen this, again and again
06:19:18 ER: That is the purpose of all. It is no fate, mere inevitability.
06:20:21 AoshimaMichio: Such is Time.
06:20:28 AoshimaMichio: It Ends all things.
06:20:31 AoshimaMichio: Except Rocks
06:20:50 ER: ROCK WILL DIE WITH THE REST
06:21:41 AoshimaMichio: Dream
06:21:45 AoshimaMichio: Desire
06:21:46 ER: HIT A ROCK, WATCH IT SHATTER. GRIND IT DOWN TO DUST. MELT IT, VAPORIZE IT, DROP IT PAST THE VEIL OF THE EVENT HORIZON
06:21:50 AoshimaMichio: Despair
06:21:59 AoshimaMichio: Delirium
06:22:02 AoshimaMichio: Destiny
06:22:05 AoshimaMichio: Destruction
06:22:08 AoshimaMichio: Death
06:22:16 ER: All delusion.
06:22:20 AoshimaMichio: The Endless
06:23:56 ER: What do you think happens to your eternal when it's antimatter equivalent turns it unto energy?
06:24:12 ER: Anything can be destroyed.
06:24:43 AoshimaMichio: The Endless are merely patterns
06:24:49 AoshimaMichio: The Endless are ideas
06:24:55 AoshimaMichio: The Endless are wave functions
06:25:00 AoshimaMichio: The Endless are repeating motifs
06:25:05 AoshimaMichio: The Endless are echoes of darkness
08:05:35 Devastator: hello Aoshi.
08:05:37 Devastator: what's up?
08:07:08 Devastator: AoshimaMichio
08:08:59 AoshimaMichio: Devastator
08:09:04 Devastator: What's up?
08:09:11 AoshimaMichio: clouds
08:09:14 AoshimaMichio: sky
08:09:17 AoshimaMichio: stars
08:09:36 AoshimaMichio: mystical things
08:09:39 Devastator: How are you feeling today?
08:10:05 AoshimaMichio: a tad tired, could use another night of long sleep
08:12:17 Devastator: good luck.
08:16:02 Devastator: Care to watch a stream?
08:17:01 AoshimaMichio: ask me again in 7 hours
08:17:48 AoshimaMichio: although technically there's no reason stopping me other than my work ethics
08:19:39 Devastator: ouch. Probably not around in 7 hours.
08:20:02 Devastator: Could use luck in these forum games.
08:36:38 ER: wonder if that restored your soul. Sounds like it may have, but also it turned your character sheet into an unreliable narrator.
08:38:20 Devastator: Yay.
08:38:23 Devastator: I hope so.
08:38:31 Devastator: you'd think, really.
08:39:25 Devastator: Being really really happy is supposed to do that.
08:45:00 Devastator: Not my best move, all told.
08:45:22 Devastator: I think I need to make sure my next orders involve going where I'm supposed to go. If they don't, syv will have me end up there anyway.
08:47:14 Devastator: Yeah though.. that's bad. I was going to be somewhat tactical, but the description is far too drug-addled to do stuff like that.
08:47:24 Devastator: Looks like it's up to the rest of the party.
08:56:59 Devastator: Means I get no werewolf.
08:57:22 ER: you're high, you can be a werewolf if you want to
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09:01:06 Topic set by Remalle!Variety@i2246816zi629tu21.vc.shawcable.net [Tuesday 03 January 2017, 06:26:56]
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09:08:15 syv: Huh, Oz is still here.
09:08:36 ER: yuuup
09:09:01 ER: because apparantly he needs to watch us in real time rather than read the logs
09:10:25 syv: Oh, Oz.
09:10:35 Devastator: heya syv.
09:10:44 Devastator: no need for that.
09:10:44 syv: heya dev.
09:10:54 Devastator: So Alida is high as a kite.
09:11:08 Devastator: does she get soul for being so happy?
09:12:08 syv: Do people typically regenerate soul for being happy?
09:12:49 syv: (No. She does get benefits, though.)
09:13:15 Devastator: Yeah, actually. Don't you normally get a tiny bit of soul for happy experiences?
09:13:31 Devastator: I wasn't expecting much, just like one cheap every turn she's super-high.
09:13:47 Devastator: Anyway, not going to issue any really tactical orders.
09:14:06 Devastator: I'm assuming she has no idea there are civilians nearby, too.
09:14:19 ER: I was expecting a decent lump from eating something better than you've ever tasted before.
09:14:57 Devastator: Nah, it's a drain because I'll never eat anything that good again.
09:15:06 Devastator: and the game is about suffering. ;-p
09:15:13 syv: Heh.
09:15:32 syv: Well, she can see the civilians. Whether or not she can understand that they're civilians...
09:15:40 ER: I didn't say it wouldn't hurt you afterwards, just that it would count as a heal for the moment. ;D
09:15:50 Devastator: Yeah, that was the question. From the description it seems that she can't tell.
09:16:16 Devastator: Essentially I'm going to Effigy-split, so one Alida can hug her friends to not be alone and the other can jump into battle.
09:16:18 syv: Alida can still *think* logically, FYI. She's not just out of your control. Her perceptions are screwed up, but her mind is only partially so.
09:16:24 Devastator: best of both worlds.
09:16:59 Devastator: well.. to be honest, I'd basically do that, but with some tactical flourishes I can't see someone super-high coming up with.
09:17:19 Devastator: and without knowing there are civvies up there, well, I don't see her trying to rescue them.
09:24:15 Devastator: Well, so it's largely going to be up to the team.
09:24:21 Devastator: they'll have to tell her.
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09:44:07 syv: Bye?
09:45:07 Devastator: it's okay.
09:45:07 syv: ...I'm actually not sure about there being no soul restoration for drugs. Can't recall why I decided against it before, exactly, and that's not a good sign for any decisions.
09:45:32 Devastator: Maybe it only counts for magic drugs.
09:45:50 Devastator: I don't think it'd be large in any case.
09:45:50 syv: I keep trying to think of ways to exploit it, and, well, abusing drugs isn't gonna be great for the soul, but is totally something people might try.
09:46:08 Devastator: Maybe you get less each time, and you can get addicted, which costs soul.
09:46:16 ER: You might have decided against it because you didn't want a game about little girls using cocaine as mana potions.
09:46:33 syv: Can't have been that.
09:46:56 ER: If addiction damages the soul. Well shit.
09:47:05 AoshimaMichio: would mana potions work as cocaine then?
09:47:17 ER: probably
09:47:19 syv: Mana potions don't exist in this setting, sadly.
09:47:24 AoshimaMichio: snort blue liquid to get high
09:47:30 syv: You can get crunchy mana candies though.
09:47:44 AoshimaMichio: snortable type?
09:47:45 Devastator: unless someone wishes for them.
09:47:52 Devastator: distill other magical girls, get soul potions.
09:48:31 ER: No mana potions, but you can let your healer stab the shit outta you
09:48:36 Devastator: Yeah.
09:48:39 syv: Heh. Should be a mercy power; Soul exsanguination. Drain a friend's blood, bottle it, and drink it later to relive some of her happier memories.
09:48:58 Devastator: To be honest, multiple effigy bodies and pass-the-gem might allow for a big soul heal.
09:49:11 syv: ?
09:49:12 Devastator: I was thinking about stuff like that, but it's far too tactical to do when high.
09:49:54 Devastator: 'I cast effigy for three bodies. One of them is flagellated to death. The next body picks up the gem, and is itself flagellated to death. Third body picks up the gem, and it's had over a dozen medium soul boosts.
09:50:22 ER: just rip my shit apart fam
09:52:15 syv: Hmm. That's interesting. Hadn't considered flag's effects on an effigy body before.
09:53:04 Devastator: could divide it by current body count.
09:53:10 Devastator: Probably the easiest.
09:54:09 syv: My first thought was that it'd hurt all the bodies, but no, flag can create custom wounds, so she could limit her repairs to a portion of the soul that deals with a specific body. She'd run out of repairs to make sooner, but that's not really a flaw with your plan.
09:54:45 Devastator: Ahh, so there's a useage limit then.
09:59:06 Devastator: well, if it's only good for two or three it'd still be worth doing.
10:09:45 Devastator: "Your plans suck so much that Cobra Commander is saying they're impractical."
10:10:36 syv: I never watched GI Joe.
10:10:54 ER: https://youtu.be/zmCzOJb7qBM?list=PLDFKJhgbKXYtjEEXm0-qjQ0jbna5X9YkU well these videos are great
10:11:28 Devastator: It's from one of Chuck's reviews of a transformers episode.
10:11:35 syv: Think it'd be a bad idea if I let spectators submit orders for Mina while Twin's inactive? Twin doesn't want her to ve dead weight, buuut I'm not gonna be having her do things.
10:11:58 syv: ...Is "cobra commander" from transformers?
10:12:10 syv: I've never watched any transformers cartoons, either.
10:12:11 Devastator: No.
10:12:20 ER: It would be a poor idea for her survival if you let me submit actions~
10:12:20 Devastator: Cobra Commander is from GI Joe.
10:12:33 Devastator: They have his voice actor as another character in one episode.
10:12:45 syv: Ahh.
10:12:58 Devastator: Is 'look for bombs' too idle?
10:13:01 syv: Yes, ER, it would be, but Mina is far more likely to be useful then.
10:13:44 syv: I'd veto any action that's clearly out of character, of course. No suddenly exploding into a fleshorror just because she has the power to do so.
10:14:19 ER: Nobody who has the power to explode into tentacles should supress that
10:15:49 Devastator: fails are the best part of that.
10:16:24 ER: I like Mina though, might be fun to step into those shoes.
10:17:17 ER: (improbably good sensory apparatus + halberd + green = very good)
10:18:48 syv: Fricking Semblance, too.
10:19:11 syv: To date, Mina has used it once, to turn her hand into feathers, and then to accidentally clone and mirror her other hand.
10:19:19 ER: dammit creativity is so good
10:19:26 syv: Terribly boring for a power that allows unlimited shapeshifting.
10:19:56 ER: why did I pick this boring power se- oh wait, because mind control.
10:20:23 ER: Which I'll get around to using effectively...
10:20:37 Devastator: cre is good.
10:21:05 ER: and kinda nesessary
10:21:09 syv: Cre is good, but which class is the worst?
10:21:19 Devastator: Bravery.
10:21:24 Devastator: but it's the only one that can take hits.
10:21:47 ER: Love, unless you have a good setup for it.
10:24:08 Devastator: You could just semblance into a bird and rescue all the peoples from death.
10:24:10 Devastator: there you go.
10:24:23 ER: ...how?
10:24:46 syv: I think he's thinking like Nam's lovebird.
10:24:53 syv: A giant roc of a crow.
10:25:25 ER: oh yeah that giant bird you've wanted in multiple games and never gotten because getting a giant bird is hard
10:25:49 ER: making a roc must be expensive in semblance.
10:26:55 syv: I don't have tier limits and costs written down for Semblance, but yeah, that's at least Massive cost.
10:28:34 syv: Fun question: How many times do you think a girl can cast massive cost ablities from full soul, without risking witching?
10:28:58 Devastator: Massive?
10:29:01 Devastator: Six.
10:29:01 ER: Unsure, not seen a lot of massives.
10:29:22 Devastator: well, you could carry up a zipline and bring them down that way. Asha has TM 2, right?
10:29:55 Devastator: Just barely, ouch.
10:30:24 syv: TM isn't popular.
10:30:43 ER: ...per Refine, about 9 times. But it's a little more complicated.
10:31:33 Devastator: I only stuck with 2 because I have a melee weapon.
10:31:37 Devastator: I can't use more than two.
10:31:42 ER: And that's not from *full* soul, because it goes up a bit higher.
10:31:51 Devastator: If I had ribbons, I'd definately have three total.
10:38:12 Devastator: Anyway, hope those orders aren't suicidal. And I hope the others help out.
10:39:01 Devastator: are they suicidal, syv? I'm thinking there will be another turn to activate Painless.
10:42:15 syv: You may want to clarify exactly what you mean by "fight".
10:42:31 syv: Attack the butlers, or ride the chariot to the fight above?
10:43:14 Devastator: Go up. I still don't know where the damn witch is, and this is the freaking dining room, so I'm essentially committing suicide.
10:43:28 Devastator: basically, that car is probably the thing that crushes the hostages.
10:44:20 syv: Man, having two sets if eyes must already be trippy as hell, I'm gonna have to work to figure out what it's like when you're ACTUALLY tripping too.
10:44:34 ER: hehehehe
10:44:35 Devastator: I'm leaving it open in the hopes that SOMEONE will freaking tell her what's going on.
10:44:42 Devastator: except, of course, nobody will.
10:45:09 syv: Yeah, teenage girls aren't the most reliable allies.
10:45:16 Devastator: bay12 players.
10:46:19 syv: "Why are Bay12 players so incompetent? Nobody would be so thoughtless were they actually in that situation." "Well, they're playing young teenagers, so actually it's pretty appropriate."
10:46:56 Devastator: Truth, everyone can be incompetent from time to time.
10:47:42 Devastator: How badly did I fail that Purity check, anyway?
10:47:42 syv: I like how so much media makes more sense when you justify the characters as being RPG characters or something, but in PS, the characters being who they are justifies the RPG character incompetence.
10:47:42 syv: Critfail.
10:47:48 Devastator: oh good.
10:47:54 Devastator: I was worried this was the success.
10:51:21 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-2LsE4Ci5c
10:52:37 syv: A success on a hallucinogen would result in very minor and easily dismissed hallucinations.
10:53:03 syv: Purity is essentially drug resistance, I guess.
10:54:14 ER: Does that mean that Sophia is a pure due to building up resistance
10:54:24 Devastator: Nah, success is hallucinations. Failure is dead, say.
10:56:03 syv: No, if you take a lethal dose you just die regardless of stats.
10:56:45 ER: ...Is it enough to *kill you* kill you or will just your body die?
10:56:48 syv: And ER... maybe? If drugs are the reason she has a forceful, selfish personality, then yes. I've assumed it was something else though.
10:57:13 Devastator: don't most drug overdoses kill you due to the drug effects?
10:57:18 ER: probably not specifically that, then
10:57:20 syv: Just dead body.
10:57:42 Devastator: like that's how heroin kills you. So if you're resistant to the heroin effect, it would mean a lethal dose for you is much higher.
10:58:34 syv: They kill you due to chemical effects. Hallucinations are partly mental. Purity resists mental effects more effectively, but means nothing as far as actual lethal dose. If any stat affects that, it's Bravery, since bravery implies muscles and bulk.
10:59:59 syv: Really, Sophia's just more capable of maintaining self control when drunk/high, for things she hasn't IC built up a resistance to she'll still get high off lower amounts than Alida, I guess.
11:00:57 syv: The actual quantities would vary so little that it'll never matter in-game, even if y'all start rationing and abusing heroin or something.
11:01:07 Devastator: Oh, so Bravery is drug resistant against fatal effects, but Purity is resistanct against mental effects?
11:01:09 ER: Though if what you really want is body mass... creativity will do better for you than bravery.
11:01:55 ER: (Just play as an adult man if you want to)
11:02:13 Devastator: Make Mina into an adult man.
11:02:16 Devastator: There you go.
11:02:21 Devastator: shouldn't cost that much soul to do that.
11:03:15 syv: That'll be a veto, since that seems pretty strongly out of character for her.
11:03:44 ER: yeah, using her powers sure seems out of character~
11:04:17 Devastator: Unless there's a good reason, but I don't see a particular one.
11:06:34 syv: Bravery would be resistance in terms of having more mass and therefore getting a smaller effective dose. Purity is resistance in terms of having self-control, and the mental fortitude to resist the mental effects of drugs. Being serious, both are less important in the game than backstory, since if you said your char was 15 and extremely tall/heavy, that'd mean more weight than talented bravery naturally implies, and a cha
11:06:57 syv: And only purity will ever be rolled, since bravery's effect is so minor as to be ignored.
11:08:47 Devastator: What if you get, say, stung by a cone snail?
11:10:55 syv: Don't know what that is. It wouldn't happen, or if it did it'd happen for a reason and therefore wouldn't get a roll. If it were the logical result of something for some strange reason, it'd probably be a flat luck roll, unaffected by stats.
11:13:09 Devastator: It's an animal that lives in a shell that is commonly found on beaches.
11:13:20 Devastator: It stings people with a paralysis inducing potentially fatal poison.
11:26:32 Devastator: To my knowledge it has no psychedelic effects.
11:26:37 Devastator: but I'm sure someone has tried.
11:49:07 syv: Man, it's the sun's coming up outside. Why's ER still here?
11:49:14 syv: SLEEP, Eager Reaver.
11:49:39 ER: I'm sure that's fine
11:53:19 ER: ...
11:53:20 ER: yup
11:53:40 ER: hello, sunshine
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