00:01:46 Devastator: I especially like it, because it sounds like I beat the aimbotter once, six months ago. ;-p
00:02:07 Devastator: The person in question was a secretary at a place I used to work.
00:02:21 Devastator: "Yeah, no need to tell me, I recognize your voice."
00:56:11 Devastator: I see from that ooc quote someone listed 'reverse gynecologist.'
00:56:15 Devastator: I still have no idea what that means.
00:57:50 Devastator: 'your dog is in exceelent hands.'
04:08:00 Devastator: "There was not only a shortage of blank forms, but a shortage of the forms needed to requisition the blank forms."
04:21:18 Devastator: Hmm. wonder if
syv is stopping by tonight.
04:22:06 Devastator: he just posted, so I sent him a PM.
04:22:38 ER: Hard to tell how online he is, because he only logs into things when he has to.
04:23:02 Devastator: He's on a lot, just in hidden mode.
04:42:13 ER: What's a good name for cats that live in a zero-gravity habitat, using sticky pads to stick to the walls?
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04:46:46 syv: @
Dev I was not intending to, at least not until I updated, but probably after that, yes.
04:48:03 Devastator: Just wanted to get all the stuff we've been talking about down to a few points so I can communicate them with
NJW.
04:48:57 Devastator: Yeah.. so if you're tired, just knock it off and we'll do it later.
04:49:39 syv: @
ER, where is Sophia hiding? In among the shattering bits of glacier?
04:49:51 syv: Might as well finish that tonight too.
05:03:37 ER: Preferably behind an ice column or such.
05:04:03 ER: Also if you really want to get my attention, send a PM here. :P
05:04:22 ER: Makes the program flash, and makes a different noise
05:04:49 syv: 1d6 gave a five, but I've already given Sophia enough second chances, so no, she just dies.
05:04:56 syv: Do you want any input on her witch form?
05:05:26 syv: I can write out her death with fancy prose if you like.
05:05:58 syv: So that if it got a 1 I'd feel a little less guilty >.>
05:08:24 syv: You hid on top of the shattering barrier between you and Bad Things, while not really coherent enough to escape once it became clearly the wrong idea.
05:09:04 ER: I meant put it between me and a ship, hoping that it would be a localized event.
05:09:57 syv: No, the ship wasn't Isabella. The entire glacier was Isabella. The ship was just her remaining consciousness and positivity.
05:10:24 ER: If I could sense that bad things were coming from EVERYTHING below, I'd probably have decided something else, but the sky didn't exactly seem protective.
05:10:47 syv sighs and goes to check the writing
05:12:21 ER: ...Was I supposed to know that everything as Isabella there? I approached it from a considerably more symbolic point of view than just being in a representation of someone's mind.
05:13:21 ER: Bah, I should have just bolded "Leave" and let you interprit that in a way that actually works.
05:13:25 syv: Everything had a reasoning, but I didn't expect many of them to be caught. I was rather surprised you realized the order of the chains was based on their chronology, for instance.
05:13:36 syv: Also, "There's... something under the ice"
05:13:56 syv: Which is in the middle of the paragraph (?) describing the monstrous bits.
05:14:47 syv: To be fair, Sophia's perception was pretty fucked, so it's fair you didn't realize THAT line was important, versus the others. *shrug*
05:15:14 ER: "something" is still different from "everything"
05:15:41 syv: I don't really understand how the two ae different.
05:15:48 ER: I was picturing more a horribly eldritch monster shark representing the inevitability of death. >.>
05:16:16 ER: A single, discreet thing that would come and destroy the boat.
05:16:17 syv: I think the repeated lines about Sophia being miniscule and tiny in comparison to everything except the ship would be enough.
05:16:54 ER: WHAT did I just get hit by?
05:17:24 ER: why would it be everywhere? If it were everywhere even going straight up wouldn't be enough.
05:17:40 syv: Well, it wasn't everywhere, it was just below the glacier.
05:18:00 syv: And going up would've been enough, because it would've severed your connection with Isabella.
05:18:19 ER: Why did the sky change to be less hopeful?
05:18:37 syv: Up wasn't actually up, it was "away", towards yourself, which is why it was warm and hopeful while Sophia was at full power, and got darker every time she was drained.
05:18:58 ER: You signposted that not working after I broke the second chain, so I figured I needed a more creative solution.
05:19:22 ER: I overthought myself to death, dammit.
05:19:43 syv: Nah, it would've, Sophia'd've just been pretty significantly drained afterward.
05:20:00 syv: You were being eaten by a monster of hopelessness, things looked dimmer than they were.
05:20:24 syv: I literally wrote that it was draining your hope.
05:20:58 ER: The intention obvious from the post was "get away and save myself, don't stick around." Which is what going up would have ACTUALLY done, I just underestimated the scale.
05:21:49 syv: Well, yes, that was the intention. You just made the single incorrect choice to succeed in that intention.
05:22:27 ER: It's a metaphysical space, so isn't the intent what matters?
05:22:35 syv: Sitting behind a column would've let it continue to drain Sophia, until she actually WOULDN'T have enough power to get away. That happened before it became obvious the whole place was going to hell.
05:22:55 ER: The glacier doesn't actually exist, but my intent to leave Isabella behind does.
05:23:28 syv: Well, actually, from what you've said your intent seemed to be to leave the boat behind.
05:23:46 syv: So sure, you distanced yourself from the last bits of hope surviving in that place quite effectively~
05:24:18 Devastator: Man, Alida would have been all about staying on the boat.
05:25:19 ER: Then you're lucky that Alida's backstory didn't place her in an absurdly hostile situation.
05:25:57 Devastator: I'm sure I can find hostile situations on my own with my little berzerker here.
05:26:10 syv: I think that may have less to do with luck, more to do with
Dev not writing her backstory to have her be a slave bred in captivity.
05:26:37 Devastator: A hopelessness witch would just chow down on that.
05:27:44 syv: Pity, too. I quite like Sophia, as a character.
05:27:54 syv: Probably my favorite of the initial five picks.
05:28:22 syv: Again, do you want any input on what Sophia's witch form will be like?
05:28:39 Devastator: the most suffering?
05:28:56 ER: Ahhhhhhh, just list all the mistakes I made so that this feels less unfair.
05:29:16 syv: I'll go back over the PMs...
05:30:13 Devastator: Alida's labrynth might be on a boat in a lake, surrounded by a WW1 battlefield.
05:30:20 Devastator: That's pretty much the definition of wasteful death.
05:30:37 syv: 1. Making a character that appeals to the GM in such a way as to make him put her in this situation.
05:31:42 syv: 2. Firing five high-cost manabolts to kill all the witch's familiars, which were of no actual threat to you.
05:32:01 ER: That was stupid and I knew it.
05:32:20 ER: And I did it anyway because I like pretty exlposions.
05:32:48 syv: 3.Using inner monster to make your own weak witch fight the extremely powerful witch.
05:33:33 ER: I wanted to see what it would make. And it seemed in-character for that moment.
05:33:37 syv: 4. Not opening the spoiler after [You have died.] ;p
05:33:55 ER: The dead have no use for spoilers.
05:34:07 ER: there's no sunshine when you're dead.
05:34:19 syv: 4. Hiding rather than fleeing or attacking.
05:35:33 syv: No, attacking the glacier would've just made Sophia die faster.
05:35:53 ER: What would braking the chain accomplish?
05:36:27 syv: Freed the ship, made Sophia go unconscious again, and then the ship would've flosted upward. The chain was the only thing holding it down.
05:36:43 syv: "The first thing you notice is that the ship is now tilted up at a forty-five degree angle, like it's trying to float upward, and the last chain is its only anchor... or like it's being dragged underwater by the chain."
05:37:09 syv: First half was correct, second half was because I'm not just going to blankly tell you "this is the solution".
05:37:46 ER: I pictured using all my strength to break that final bond, the ship floating up, and then the ship immediately getting wrecked by entropic shark.
05:38:44 syv: Also, do you seriously think I'd set up THAT much exposition, and kill you for taking a risk to obtain it all?
05:39:01 ER: I may have used some assumptions based on Refine metaphysics-feel.
05:39:23 ER: You'd totally kill me for that.
05:39:36 ER: *I* would kill me for that.
05:40:26 ER: It's pure bait and I should have left my orders to fly away rather than change them months later to break the second chain.
05:40:29 syv: Well I wouldn't. Pity. I actually even *like* the last chain's memories a bit. I actually managed to write something genuinely happy, for once.
05:40:51 ER: I really wanted to know how Isabella died but that doesn't make it not bait.
05:41:56 ER: I'm too paranoid and not glaciar-phobic enough
05:42:02 syv: I have too much of a negative opinion of my writing to use it as bait. :P
05:42:57 syv: Protip: Everything in PS is color-coded. Bright things are good. Dark things are bad. Glacier was very dark = glacier was very bad.
05:43:05 ER: I could have hated chains more. I should have hated chains way more.
05:43:24 ER: Glaciar was dark? I must have forgotten that.
05:43:34 ER: I thought it glowed with blue light.
05:43:40 syv: I kind've expected Sophia would be naturally inclined to chain-shattering, yeah.
05:43:56 syv: ...The boat glowed. Not the glacier.
05:44:30 Devastator: a slave would hate chains.
05:44:52 ER: I blame you for spacing these out too much and absolutely not myself for failing to re-read anything before making decisions.
05:45:28 syv: Welp, I guess
Paris is prolly the next waitlister.
05:45:52 ER: I KNEW this was color-coded from the start. I knew that the first witch the four stooges fought first was Love from the money they stepped in because the lanterns were yellow.
05:46:33 syv: Did you have any idea what the witch being a love *meant*, though? ;)
05:47:25 Devastator: so what's a bravery witch?
05:47:32 syv: Hate was explicitly said by Pumsy, so yes
Dev, but how's that helpful in a material way?
05:47:33 ER: pretty sure that information comes from lots of data or from pinning the tigerkitten down long enough to ask questions.
05:47:56 Devastator: I'm going to bring him into one of these labrynths, should I make it long enough.
05:49:22 ER: HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
05:49:50 ER: THE NIGHT GOES ON AS IM FADING AWAY
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05:50:34 Devastator: Assuming he doesn't explode or something due to fundamental incompatability.
05:50:39 Devastator: although taht would be worth seeing.
05:55:48 syv: If I let Sophia reset this would play out like a video game with constant savescumming.
05:56:16 Devastator: You could let Sophie escape, and then die from soul-loss alone in the dark.
05:56:17 syv: Plus Sophia would just die within a month of turns in the actual game, anyway.
05:57:21 syv: That's more or less what happened, unless one counts a witch as company, I guess.
05:58:31 ER: you know I usually greet death with a smile, but this hits me directly and makes me look for escape options, which reminds me of how I felt when *donald trump got elected president*, and compared to that this is silly, but it really does hurt.
06:00:37 Devastator: Yeah. I'm still waiting for him to say one thing that is true since he started his campaign.
06:00:41 syv: ...God damn it you've even got
Dev arguing in your favor through PMs.
06:01:05 syv: I'm going to think about this more later, for now, I have ACTUAL HINGS to do.
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06:05:13 Devastator: Every once in a while, I realize again that Donald Trump is the president, and it's just as shocking as it was the first time.
06:05:39 ER: ...Least he's not YOUR president, yeah?
06:07:35 Devastator: Get a lot of flack from him, though.
06:07:45 Devastator: I just wish the american conservative movement picked basically anyone else.
06:09:06 Devastator: But they have to pick up a lying, ego-fueled demagogue like him.
06:11:30 Devastator: There's a good amount of that.
06:11:41 Devastator: Don't forget there's a lot the other way, too.
06:58:16 ER: just been reading the subreddit for shlock mercenary, because it's the only place I found with consistant discussion of each strip.
06:58:45 ER: I just found something that I wanted to comment on enough to bother pressing log in.
06:58:57 ER: And my things got upvoted I guess?
07:00:22 Devastator: I got 8 points for responding to a picture of a russian drinking with a bear.
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08:10:24 parisbre56: also, if you can't convince
syv to let you live, maybe you could ask him to let you play as a witch
08:10:50 parisbre56: if you give him something interesting he might be fine with it
08:14:06 Devastator: eh, it isn't that much suffering if nobody can die.
08:15:05 ER: this is the content of the PM I sent him
08:15:06 ER: I'll provide input on the witch if I get to actually control it when the others inevitably encounter it.
08:15:33 ER: Followed by a japanese orge emoji
08:16:50 ER: ...Not particularly interested in a designing a monster that I can't use.
08:18:07 Devastator: Eh, Alida's witch will be a giant wolf-creature on a pirate ship. ;-p
08:18:17 parisbre56: did my PMs arrive BTW
ER? can't tell with this IRC thing
08:19:24 parisbre56: trying new app so I was unsure
08:19:44 ER: But I'm not going to become a monster and then try to act bineficially.
08:20:15 parisbre56: you can act beneficially if it gets you in the optimal position to cause suffering
08:20:20 parisbre56: it's all about the greater evil
08:22:10 ER: it's the game where the victories don't mean anything and the suffering doesn't matter
08:24:50 parisbre56: if it's anything like the original, Earth will eventually be destroyed by a runaway witch reaction, so, you know, maybe you can't be happy but you can at least buy some time for the rest of the human race to seek happiness
08:24:57 parisbre56: or go to Mars, I guess
08:25:18 parisbre56: and then have witch vs magical girl vs demon vs space Marine
08:25:52 ER: No, someone will be a frikkin jesus and remake the universe with even more fucked laws in place.
08:26:12 ER: As has happened an unknown number of times in the past.
08:26:36 parisbre56: well, it probably won't be one of the PCs
08:29:12 Devastator:
syv still wants to see people make awesome wishes, even if they're not practical.
08:30:33 ER: >make things less shit in a way that doesn't inadvernantly make things more shit.
08:30:57 parisbre56: what makes a wish awesome?
08:31:03 parisbre56: I wish I could fly?
08:31:10 parisbre56: I wish I was a tank?
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08:41:12 Devastator: I did ask
syv what the result would be for 'I wish I was a combat aerocraft.'
08:41:27 Devastator: "Congrats, you're a quadcopter with a beretta taped to it."
08:50:24 Devastator: Now you know why I want to wish for something that's incremental. It might start as dissapointing, but it won't remain.
08:50:47 ER: you've already made your wish dammit
08:51:07 Devastator: Should have wished for something different.
08:58:19 Devastator: Did you make it to the end of Awful Hospital?
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16:33:59 Devastator: That's good, not due to being a five.
16:34:08 Devastator: IIRC,
syv is rolling percentile dice and the goal is to roll low.
16:34:13 Devastator: so it's like you rolled a 20.
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22:57:59 Devastator: went with your buys in spidergame.
23:08:18 ER: I stated [2] Essence to flatten void, and [1] Essence to create matter.
23:08:54 ER: And I just wrote a whole paragraph explaining the opposite to be true, because that makes more sense to me now.
23:17:57 Devastator: well, you can change the rules.
23:21:29 Devastator: ..yes, that's what I implied.
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