ERLOG 2018-09-11

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00:26:33 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Intergalactic Day of Mourning for 2016 (2016-2016)
00:26:33 Topic set by Remalle!Variety@i2246816zi629tu21.vc.shawcable.net [Tuesday 03 January 2017, 06:26:56]
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01:28:56 ER: oWo
03:47:24 Devastator: ooo
03:47:34 ER: awoo
03:50:35 Devastator: dang it, no syv, so I can't congratulate him on that natural 6.
03:50:47 Devastator: Maybe I should get the money together to pay our way through after all.
03:53:22 Devastator: Zero in k6bd seems kinda dumb.
03:53:30 Devastator: 'Do the people know you keep prisoners?'
03:54:20 Devastator: Dude, the man is the ruler of a state ruling many, many planets. You should know that by now. Of course he keeps prisoners.
03:55:15 ER: “Powerful men, my lord, must by nature be exceptionally good fools,” said the young man.
03:57:16 Devastator: Zero is powerful now?
03:57:38 ER: well, he's certainly a fool
03:57:42 Devastator: Yeah.
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04:06:07 Devastator: http://loweringthebar.net/2018/09/crickets.html
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04:07:05 Devastator: Heya syv.
04:07:07 syv: Beep
04:07:11 ER: hi
04:07:12 Devastator: Just talking about you.
04:07:21 syv: Heva Dey!
04:07:22 ER: ironyowl game >.>
04:07:25 Devastator: Congrats, Ben got some soldiers together.
04:07:36 MidJag: lo
04:07:38 ER: magic!
04:07:40 syv: Yes, I saw.
04:07:45 syv: Ironyowl, ER?
04:08:02 syv: MJ, you're around so often now, it's *weird*.
04:08:34 Devastator: It's a good sign, though, it means I need to reassess my goals, and assume Nan will be able to get a mob together if necessary.
04:08:38 MidJag: Yeah, I'm sort of in the calm before the storm right now
04:08:40 Devastator: I now need to do that at some point. ;-p
04:09:10 syv: I think Ben does have just about as much of a situational bonus as he reasonably can get.
04:10:01 syv: He is the epitome of special forces vet by virtue of nature, history, equipment, and magic, plus the soldiers are all very on edge and watching for this sort of stuff.
04:10:13 Devastator: Yeah, fair point.
04:10:53 syv: I just hope he doesn't get arrested. And that the soldiers actually FIND the tank.
04:11:04 syv: *train
04:11:38 syv: As awesome as it would be if the soldiers betray him and he gets forced into hijacking the Challenger, I think he's much less liable to succeed than Simon was.
04:11:50 Devastator: Yeah, it might be tricky getting them to see the train.
04:12:02 MidJag: ....As in the space shuttle?
04:12:03 Devastator: I think he would stand a decent chance against each soldier, but there's a lot of them.
04:12:21 Devastator: As in the Challenger 2 tank at the centre of the group of soldiers Syv got together.
04:12:28 MidJag: Ah
04:12:28 syv: I wish, MidJag.
04:13:07 syv: If Ben hijacked the space shuttle, well, that would basically be the shark-jumping of my gaming career.
04:13:15 ER: we should totally steal a space shuttle
04:13:16 syv: It would be hard to ever top that.
04:13:41 MidJag: No, you have to have trump do it
04:13:46 syv: ...
04:13:51 syv: :|
04:14:01 ER: trump!
04:14:05 syv: Someone needs to contact Aigre, so this can happen.
04:14:25 Devastator: Trump hijacking a space shuttle would be nifty.
04:16:57 MidJag: We just need to wait for him to bounce back here syv
04:17:04 MidJag: he always will eventually
04:17:42 MidJag: He's like a boomerang.
04:18:38 Devastator: Hopefully.
04:18:40 MidJag: Also, great song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TokaT9MPLM
04:18:53 syv: Maybe. I haven't seen him in awhile, though.
04:18:53 ER: Aigre started an ill-advised suggestion game and then didn't actually start it, probably for the best.
04:19:14 MidJag: Why was it ill advised?
04:19:27 MidJag: I feel like he always shows up in spring
04:19:40 ER: that's when they hatch
04:20:48 MidJag: heh
04:21:05 Devastator: Singaporean accountants?
04:21:31 ER: reptilian accountants
04:22:38 syv: "I am the pulse of the maggots"
04:22:53 syv: If that were true of me, I think I would avoid admitting it.
04:23:16 MidJag: repitillian singapore accountants, they reuqire the warm sea spray of the spring pacific waters to warm their eggs and a plentiful supply of tax forms to sustain them.
04:23:41 MidJag: Hey maggots do a lot of cool things.
04:23:46 Devastator: some creatures like maggots ate some of my potatoes.
04:23:53 Devastator: I don't know what they actually are.
04:24:37 MidJag: I didn't know you could grow potatoes in Canada.
04:24:54 syv: Hehehe.
04:26:52 ER: po-ta-to
04:27:08 syv: potahto.
04:27:28 ER: pah-tae-toe
04:27:44 ER: pater too
04:27:47 syv: Poh-tah-tow.
04:27:48 Devastator: Heh, that's something.
04:28:00 syv: Most things are, yes.
04:28:01 Devastator: Four times as many potatoes are grown per capita in Prince Edward Island as in Idaho.
04:28:14 MidJag: huh
04:28:21 ER: https://youtu.be/Iof5pRAIZmw
04:28:23 syv: I would think Canada's pretty good at "per capita" records.
04:28:30 ER: ^
04:28:32 MidJag: ^
04:28:42 syv: Guile!
04:28:52 MidJag: You have like 5 guys total so you've got like what 10 potatoes? :P
04:29:18 ER: Dev and his four alt accounts
04:29:25 MidJag: heh
04:29:30 Devastator: The amount in question is 1.3 billion kg per year. The islad has 142,000 people on it.
04:29:42 syv: Awww, dangit. Why'd that guy have to stop Guile from destroying the shrine?
04:29:49 ER: Or rather, five goblins in a trench coat that sometimes call themselves Devastator
04:29:54 syv: I knew I should've made some edit or comment or something.
04:29:57 Devastator: You should do it despite him, syv.
04:30:03 syv: I intended to!
04:30:14 Devastator: Tell PW you want to do it retroactively.
04:31:22 Devastator: Yeah, that's 9100 kg per islander.
04:31:28 Devastator: Which is absurd.
04:37:03 syv: The more time I spend trying to mod RwR, the more clear it becomes that significant modifications were really never intended. I'm now understanding why virtually all mods are just simple faction reskins.
04:37:22 ER: aw
04:37:30 Devastator: hmm.
04:38:16 syv: I'm not quitting, it's just much more annoying than it needs to be.
04:38:57 ER: "faction reskins" for some reason makes me think of cortex command mods.
04:39:22 ER: But those are more like "you can just build a whole faction from the ground up"
04:39:34 syv: Yeah, that;
04:39:41 syv: 's not what RwR wants.
04:39:48 ER: and many of them are considerably better than vanilla factions in terms of quality
04:40:08 syv: Replace weapons, replace models, those are simple. Anything more, and things get very annoying.
04:40:23 ER: aye
04:40:48 syv: Yeah, I haven't yet found a mod that actually improves on the base game's balance, except maybe for Pacific (does DLC count as a mod?)
04:40:59 MidJag: sure
04:41:02 syv: Which is weird considering RwR has poor balance.
04:41:08 ER: overpriced mod
04:41:23 syv: Heh.
04:42:33 syv: Apparently if you're stunlocked by MGL flashbangs long enough you die.
04:43:05 Devastator: How long?
04:43:18 ER: if i stunlocked you, would you die
04:43:36 syv: Three people for about a minute? I think the deaths might've been from falling off the pier, though.
04:44:02 syv: *death
04:47:28 MidJag: Apperentlly theres a type of mice that can shed and then regenerate their skin.
04:47:48 syv: Nito.
04:48:04 syv: I wouldn't mind being able to do that, myself.
04:48:25 Devastator: ouch.
04:48:27 ER: but how will I bet waterproof while not having skin?
04:48:41 MidJag: Would be good for wrestling.
04:48:43 Devastator: I don't think falling deals damage in RwR.
04:48:56 MidJag: Actually why they do that, to escape like grabs and stuff
04:49:40 ER: damn, that's way more metal then lizards that regen their tails to escape
04:50:00 ER: why isn't THIS more famous?
04:50:51 MidJag: Pretty new discovery. Anyway, I'm totally useing that as a beast thingy, with the option of it being a mod.
04:51:18 syv: Stunning doesn't deal damage in RwR either, though.
04:51:42 syv: Well, it does in MvW once you're below 100%, but I got hit by way more than nine grenades before death.
04:51:57 ER: I'm sure everyone will want to grab the "slough off all your skin" mod
04:52:00 Devastator: Maybe it does damage once the target is already stunned.
04:52:12 MidJag: of for sure, very popular mod :P
04:52:25 ER: I should make that a power in refine
04:52:33 syv: Curiousity!
04:52:36 ER: just slip that skin away
04:53:28 MidJag: Just take a page out of those insects playbook and molt, who needs that useless skin anyway. :P
04:58:37 MidJag: http://loweringthebar.net/2015/08/gerrymanderers-miss-one-person.html
04:58:56 Devastator: you know, maybe those giant maggots were larvae for the giant moths around here.
04:59:17 syv: That's a good one, MJ.
04:59:48 MidJag: yup
05:01:25 MidJag: Could be Dev.
05:01:58 Devastator: Not sure, the maggots were big but the giant moths are enormous.
05:02:32 ER: https://youtu.be/mFKpfpwgTDs have I showed you this game before?
05:02:36 syv: Also bipedal, and with a frightening lack of self-preservation instincts.
05:02:53 syv: Not I.
05:03:25 MidJag: Not I said the cow
05:03:28 syv: Music and cosmetic remind me of Hyper Light Drifter.
05:03:49 ER: curling up into a ball is screaming internally counts as a self preservation instinct
05:04:36 MidJag: Reminds me of Cortex command
05:06:22 ER: yeah, but cortex command doesn't have so many enviromental interactions, and you can't detatch bits of terrain and have them fly around like physics objects.
05:07:05 ER: Every pixel of ground is simulated, kinda, but it's either firmly attached to the background or flies around as a single spec of sand
05:12:45 MidJag: Alright
05:24:38 ER: hey syv, are you MORE interested in Refine than any other game I might run, or do you just consider it the one I'm most likely to finish?
05:24:52 syv: A bit of both?
05:25:01 ER: hmm
05:25:22 ER: What is it in particular that you find interesting about it, then?
05:25:48 syv: There's simpler stuff you're more likely to finish than Refine, but it's definitely the one that has the majority of my interest.
05:26:48 syv: Partially just the nature that it's partly inspired by my own work. I am not immune to bias. Beyond that, I like very negative settings, and Refine is negative post-apoc in a new and interesting way.
05:27:07 ER: based syv
05:28:27 syv: It also is more mechanically interesting than most of the other stuff... though again, bias, since I consider the mechanics to be the strength of PS. :\
05:29:04 syv: Denature is the closest in terms of mechanical interest, but has flaws, namely the fact that unlimited fleshorrors are really, really OP.
05:29:25 syv: ER, in Coven, can your char make chloroform gas?
05:29:49 ER: I can make some kind of gas, which is probably deadly
05:30:23 ER: I can't seem to control what in particular, and haven't tested it on any living beings.
05:30:53 syv: Aww. So much for that plan.
05:33:21 ER: Also, the fleshhorrors are "unlimited", but if they decide to consume with no limits, they'll run out of food.
05:33:36 MidJag: Most any kind of gas that doesbnt have O2 will be deadlly in large enough quanitiy:P
05:34:28 syv: Well, it's important that it knock a human out, but not be so deadly as to kill him.
05:34:47 MidJag: Choloroforms hard to judge for that.
05:35:09 MidJag: As are most anthesizating gasses. :P
05:35:17 ER: my spell might knock out at the correct dosage, but it's untested.
05:35:21 syv: Dev wants Ben on a rooftop while we do the Nazi run, but Ben needs a way to get off the rooftop. We have broom extraction, but Ben doesn't believe brooms can fly, so he's not going to willingly ride on one.
05:35:35 MidJag: just dope him up :P
05:35:36 Devastator: Maybe we can buy a knockout potion.
05:35:54 Devastator: Yeah, enough alcohol might do it.
05:35:59 Devastator: If he's super-drunk he might get on it.
05:36:13 ER: peg him in the head with a T4 broom, then have it swoop him up as he falls
05:36:16 Devastator: Then we buy a magic pill or something to get him un-drunk, so he can cover fine from the roof.
05:37:02 MidJag: Also great song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YklPK6DwOzM
05:39:29 syv: You *miight* be able to convince him of something nonmagical providing the lift, and the broom being a hallucination. Even then, though, Ben's a bit grounded. I guess he'd believe a jetpack was in use if he were told so, and that's the only explanation for flight, but it would be a hard pill to swallow. And not something he'd accept if he weren't desperate, which is a problem since he wouldn't be willing to go up there wi
05:40:02 Devastator: Dammit, another situation where a giant bird would be handy.
05:40:15 Devastator: Nah, I know how to do the fake heli thing.
05:40:17 Devastator: He doesn't board it.
05:40:21 Devastator: Broom looks like a heli.
05:40:23 Devastator: we drop a rope ladder.
05:40:24 MidJag: Say it's a watchamacallit, that flying expermental platform they had in the 60's
05:40:27 Devastator: Ben grabs the rope ladder.
05:40:31 syv: So, you could make it work if you drugged him, then dropped him, explained the plan once he was up there, and then forced him into being picked up by the 'jetpack' user, but that would also kinda ruin his trust.
05:40:37 Devastator: Never gets on the 'helicopter', just holds onto the rope.
05:40:38 syv: Oh, that would work.
05:40:49 syv: If you could fake a whole heli, that'd work great.
05:41:24 syv: ...Or, actually, you don't even need an illusion, yeah.
05:42:48 Devastator: I'd rather save the 'you're just seeing things' excuse to get him to wear something absurd, but that might be for the best.
05:43:05 Devastator: If she's in the car at that point, it would minimize the time you'd have to hold the roof.
05:43:48 Devastator: (Nan has to drive, as she has the +3 to that skill, and can make the additional armour.)
05:44:13 syv: Yupyup.
05:44:27 ER: yub yub
05:45:56 Devastator: Huh, we have an extra bulletproof vest. Maybe we should see if we can get an extra player for the mission.
05:46:45 syv slowly turns to look at MidJag
05:46:49 Devastator: ..also, the broomknife might be able to stab that train.
05:46:52 MidJag: ....Somehow I've found myself in possession of free time.
05:47:01 ER: how strange
05:47:04 Devastator: dragon's tooth, for instance.
05:47:09 Devastator: Ben doesn't need two machine guns, does he?
05:47:25 ER: he's ben, of course he does
05:47:35 Devastator: Right.
05:47:38 syv: Strictly speaking he doesn't, no, but he's leery of handing them off to other people.
05:47:50 MidJag: so sure.
05:47:57 Devastator: well, maybe I can fob a real gun from some armourer somewhere. Or maybe Vince will pay an advance so you can buy a weapon.
05:48:12 syv: Plus he only has ~300 rounds, I THINK, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to run out.
05:48:30 syv: Seduce a gun off of a soldier.
05:48:37 ER: dakkadakkadakkadakka
05:48:59 ER: Let me draw a muster on you, dammit
05:49:00 syv: There's tons of them around, they carry a goodly amount of ammo, and they're almost all hormonal young men.
05:49:42 Devastator: I'm sure, but I'd rather do that to get a personal tank crew. No reason it has to be both.
05:49:58 ER: extra bonus, you can blood sacrifice them
05:50:01 MidJag: quick quesiton, what era is Coven?
05:50:03 syv: I give it 33% odds she could seduce the TANK off of its crew if she tried, an AR should be child's play.
05:50:06 syv: Modern.
05:50:09 MidJag: cool
05:50:39 syv: Hmm.
05:51:15 syv: If Ben ends up hijacking this tank, do you think driving it through the front of Vince's house would hide it from the military?
05:51:32 Devastator: Nope. And vince might not be pleased.
05:51:42 syv: That's an upside, Dev.
05:51:47 Devastator: Yay.
05:51:56 syv: I would love to see Vince's reaction to that.
05:51:59 ER: annoying vince is the whole objective of the game
05:52:01 syv: Or, read it.
05:52:10 MidJag: So uh, if NJW is actually fine with haveing an extra player I'm down, will likelly actually have time.
05:52:25 syv: Sweet!
05:52:36 syv: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=162755.0
06:02:39 Devastator: You might want to try gassing up the train brain. The brain might need to breath, for instance, and if it's dead you should be okay.
06:06:14 syv: You might also want to try staying far away from the train which may or may not have a tank shooting at it in the near future.
06:06:35 Devastator: Also an idea.
06:06:56 ER: I don't know that, because ben isn't a team player~
06:07:23 Devastator: True.
06:08:23 syv: He'd warn you if he could. I should see about getting him a radio...
06:10:11 Devastator: well, you'll have money should we complete this mission.
06:10:39 Devastator: Do have someone tell Nan when everything is finished, or if you blow up the train and we need to bribe the bridgekeepers.
06:12:32 Devastator: I'll see if I can raise some more money if necessary.
06:22:20 Devastator: I don't know if she could do the tank. I'm sure she could do an individual tanker, but isn't there like four guys in a Challenger 2? And they wouldn't be alone?
06:24:05 syv: Hence why I said she'd only have a 33% chance.
06:24:16 syv: But I have the feeling Nan could manage four guys. :|
06:24:39 Devastator: I haven't tested. She's had trouble with individuals before. Maybe after the next video.
06:25:14 Devastator: I'll try working a crowd after checking out the giant creature, if you don't need her yet.
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06:53:19 syv: I guess I'm important or something?
07:02:34 Devastator: ..yeah, perhaps.
07:02:51 Devastator: how's 888th going?
07:06:34 syv: Decent. Tank hasn't done anything helpful underground, but it hasn't needed to do anything.
07:12:14 Devastator: other than 'be a tank.'
07:56:15 Devastator: Dammit, I'm disaapointed.
07:56:33 Devastator: rgu isn't saying in Coven, to his broom, "Fly me closer, I want to hit it with my sword."
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22:09:14 Devastator: RGU's char is pretty patronizing there.
22:09:32 ER: helpful
22:13:00 Devastator: Should call him out on it.
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