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00:49:05 ER: now that's-a spicy meat-a-ball!
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02:40:32 ER: I've implied and explicitly stated that void is different from vacuum, and this player says it want to "compress my voids into a singular mass", after having created a few vacuums. It calls this this new structure a "supervoid". How shall I punish it.
02:40:51 ER: What a compressed void do? Hmm.
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03:57:04 syv: I just feel an intense nee to
sy that the thing about compressed voids is hilarious stupid.
03:57:39 ER: Yes, still haven't gotten to that bit, dealing with other, comparatively minor stupids.
03:58:12 syv: "I'm gonna smush the nothings together. ALL THE NOTHINGS! And then... I will have SUPERNOTHING. A nothing so not that it's all I need!"
04:11:13 ER:
NJW is one of the smarter gods, but... I'm shearing 40 Vitality off of him because he created some mice without anything to eat, and had stipulations about not acting to destroy life. They had no way to survive, so the action of creating life led directly to the destruction of life.
04:11:51 ER: I feel like this is unfair, but I guess nobody said death plane was going to be fair.
04:13:32 ER: ...Dammit, I'm writing a turn where literally nothing goes right for anyone
04:16:13 Devastator: That may be a little unfair in quantity. Maybe half the penalty for the first infraction made by any player?
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04:20:12 ER: The first infraction just does 40 damage and doesn't kill you outright. :v
04:23:20 Devastator: I don't know if that's valid,
ER.
04:23:39 Devastator: Most living things eat other living things, or the waste or detritus left by other living things.
04:24:00 Devastator: I might penalize him for not starting by creating a plant, but if he did, would he then be prohibited from making mice which would eat plants?
04:25:39 Devastator: If you do say that means he can't make stuff which eats other stuff, would he be able to create a bacteriophage, which is absolutely required to prevent bacteria from destroying the world for other living creatures?
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04:25:57 Devastator: Did you get the messages I sent you,
syv?
04:26:12 syv: Last was my question, so no.
04:26:21 syv: Unless you didn't see my question.
04:27:23 Devastator: I didn't see your question.
04:29:12 ER: Stipulations can do anything so long as it meaningfully limits what the god does, doesn't sneakilly add new abilities, and cannot be negated. This includes anything up to becoming unable to do anything, and becoming an NPC forced to do things by me. If his stipulations make it inpossible to create heterotrophs, well that's what stipulations do.
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05:07:00 ER: damn that's long for having five players >.>
05:13:25 MidJag_: hehehehe, that's sadlly funny
05:34:24 syv: Oh man, that makes me really want a setting where Hell is an absolutely real, tangible place, and when people die they're equipped with all sorts of equipment so they can do as much damage as possible.
05:34:44 syv: Like Doom, but somewhat more grimdark and with EVERYONE being Doomguy.
05:35:16 MidJag_: That would be great, I was gonna have it be a suppersitstion but haveing literally everyone be doomguy would be great.
05:35:57 MidJag_: I read a humanity fuck yeah reddit story once that was sorta like that.
05:36:27 syv: Just having it be a interesting setting note, vs being able to base an entire game off it.
05:36:36 syv: ...The latter is prolly better, really.
05:36:36 Devastator: Aren't you running that game right now,
syv?
05:36:51 Devastator: Except all the people sent to battle demons in hell are magical girls, and hell is right here on earth?
05:37:18 Devastator: I mean, being given all sorts of magic counts as equipment, right?
05:37:54 MidJag_: That would be a wonky setting, but probably pretty fun.
05:38:16 syv: Also, being a magical girl is opt-in, death frees you, you're not ceremoniously equipped by society, and it has the opposite mood. Grimdark being fought by perseverence, rather than cutesy happiness disguising inevitable anguish.
05:38:37 syv: Yes, yes, you're kidding, but I'd already written most of that.
05:39:49 Devastator: Although you wouldn't have to tweak too many things to make it 'young girls go to hell and become magical girls to fight demons after they die.'
05:40:13 MidJag_: I always am a fan of Rage rage against the dying of the light.
05:41:44 syv: Yeah, I'm more a fan of "And then everything goes poorly for everyone". Nothing makes me happier than a good universal tragedy.
05:43:43 ER: where tragedy is profoundly unavoidable, but you can still make it worse by making bad decisions.
05:44:50 ER: Also in Refine, magical girlieness isn't volentary, humanity just makes you one because you're needed.
05:45:05 ER: Which is a bit of a raging against the dark.
05:45:55 MidJag_: So that means I neeed to make post apoc MG game where eveyones adapted to this new magical girl reality and just move on just to complete the set :P
05:46:06 Devastator: Would you accept a stipulation of "I cannot make any life that is not unicellular." in death plane?
05:50:23 Devastator: Would that allow for viruses?
05:50:28 MidJag_: That's disapointinglly limiting
dev :P
05:50:47 MidJag_: Also techincally viruses aren't alive, so they wouldn't count
05:50:48 syv: Yes,
ER, you make much more metal settings. And
MJ is more "Yeah yeah there's a lot of crazy stuff around, but humans gotta human."
05:51:34 syv: And yet
MJ is the headbanger.
05:51:52 MidJag_: It's pretty funny really
05:51:55 Devastator: It's not nearly as limiting as you might think.
05:57:08 ER: Well, long term sustainability relies on making decent amounts of Essence, and the best source for that is going to be sapient beings that worship you.
05:57:52 syv: Clearly you need to make unicellular sapients.
05:58:15 syv: Or steal other people's sapients, I guess.
05:58:40 MidJag_: Make a fucking sentient virus, just destroy the lines of whether or not they are alive.
05:59:02 MidJag_: Your a god, you can probably do it.
05:59:02 syv: That would be *wonderful*.
05:59:45 Devastator: I'd probably go for some kind of group-mind thing.
05:59:54 syv:
ER! Could a god imbue a new intelligence into one of the god corpses floating around, and make that intelligence worship the god?
05:59:55 Devastator: although jacking other god's sapients would be amazing, too.
06:00:55 MidJag_: have people live on them
06:01:12 ER: that's the intent
MJ, but they ignored them instead :(
06:01:22 MidJag_: live in the corpse of god, actually make yourself into a metal album :P
06:02:13 ER: THE ONE TRUE GOD will loudly declare that it's not dead, and it won't appreciate you living inside it.
06:03:12 ER: kittytac called my game the dark souls of god games
06:05:18 Devastator: Sounds about right.
06:06:29 ER: "not actually that hard, if you pay attention and aren't an idiot"? ;p
06:06:36 syv: No matter how many times you screw up, you can try again?
06:10:39 Devastator: Did Tric just destroy the game?
06:10:59 ER: It'll stop expanding eventually. Probably~
06:15:54 Devastator: well, if it can't contain anything, flattening the void around it into vacuum should stop it.
06:16:03 Devastator: which would fail because that's the Dark Souls of god games.
06:18:26 MidJag_: Hmm, I should run a dark fantasy western sometime. Probably around the same time I actually run MP 1961.
06:18:48 ER: oh yeah, kitty asking NJW to add chloroplasts to his algae, when
NJW has a stipulation to not modify any life without that life's permission. :D
06:19:29 Devastator: Plus why would he want chloroplasts in the first place?
06:19:36 Devastator: Kitty being stupid.
06:20:22 ER: silly kitty, The Darkness won't let you make a light-based ecosystem on its turf~
06:20:54 ER: Also the darkness if the character I feel the more sympathy for right now, personally. :P
06:21:11 MidJag_: sounds like it's Chemisynthesis and bioillumination all the way :P
06:22:18 ER: typical gods, jumping past the boring parts of energy source and heterotrophs to the fun animal stuff.
06:22:34 syv: Munchkin strat: Take a stipulation that prevents you from doing anything, in order to stop yourself from enacting any bad plans.
06:24:59 MidJag_: Or that one 80's movie.
06:26:00 ER: how to win games GMed by
ER: stay far away from
ER. :v
06:26:24 Devastator: Personally, I'd colonize the middle. Except someone broke the middle.
06:26:37 syv: As opposed to acting like
Dev, and constantly invading
ER to complain about
ER.
06:26:46 ER: The middle still seems intact
06:27:03 Devastator: well, if the world isn't destroyed, I might want one. The game seems like it won't require too much diplomacy to survive, unlike normal god games.
06:27:09 ER: Yes, goblins will be stabbed on sight by
ER-GM
06:27:33 ER: goblins will also be stabbed on sight by
ER-player
06:27:36 Devastator: would you still want to do it?
06:28:08 syv: Yes
ER. Do you still want
Dev to invade you, before stabbing him?
06:28:19 Devastator: how's the mafia game going?
06:28:24 ER: ...My unofficial waitlist already includes one player, who I just informed over PM.
06:28:40 ER: I'd like to have you
Dev, but probably don't have a slot.
06:29:38 Devastator: Nobody's going to die soon?
06:29:44 ER: I had an ability that makes a message pop up as if I'd died, but I don't actually die.
06:29:48 Devastator: I can wait a few turns, since updates seem to come quickly.
06:29:53 MidJag_: Alright, goodnight gents. Although before I go, any suggestions for makeing a char in 888th?
06:30:07 syv: Copy the last char you made.
06:30:11 ER: No, that's just what they'd expect!
06:30:24 Devastator: create any headaches?
06:30:50 syv: Copy Radio's start, and make yourself a piece of living equipment.
06:31:03 ER: I created some headaches night 1, but it's still day 2 right now so I need to wait.
06:31:17 syv: Play a spy, make your head be a silenced pistol, and force
Piecewise to justofy how your disguise skill works.
06:31:43 ER: Make a hampster named Jenkens who is a master car driver
06:33:44 MidJag_: ...wait is Radio still playing a literal radioman?
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06:40:45 Devastator:
MJ's pretty quick with the leaves, yes.
06:46:19 Devastator: And yeah, that's a good one.
06:47:14 syv: The video makes it. "HAVE YOU ALREADY CALLED THE COPS?"
06:51:52 ER: Another reason I like death plane is because I can imagine that someday there exists a somewhat functional universe which has some complications due to terrible mistakes the gods made in the past. :P
06:52:38 ER: Some wizard finds out how something works and is like "...why the fuck is the world like this?"
06:54:24 syv: Man, our guns are terrible in Dig.
06:54:54 ER: but muh superior ethral engineering
06:54:58 Devastator: dive them into something better.
06:55:26 syv: Nyw will bop Wiellste on the head if he notices her trying to dive for something so frivolous.
06:56:20 ER: Wiellste is going to hide behind some heavy metal things and not do anything exciting for a while
06:56:50 Devastator: better swords instead?
06:57:36 ER: very heavy and durable metal objects
07:02:11 syv: Apparntly Kara is already cheating on Vikkan, haha.
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07:28:08 ER: i really need to frikkin write thingies for refine some point, eh
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16:48:02 parisbre56:
syv: with no arm and no combat stats to speak of, Kara will have to start using sex as a weapon :P
16:48:20 parisbre56: also, very surprised nobody at Pumsy's Seeds thought to shoot the bomb
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21:04:39 Devastator: Good to see kittytac demanding things of people that she doesn't read the turns for.
21:05:55 ER: I do kinda hope that we end up with a fucked up and disfunctional world that nontheless sustains itself, and not a pile of useless parts.
21:06:15 Devastator: Your odds will be better after introducing me.. ;-p
21:06:57 ER: Terrible mistakes and hacked together systems is good worldbuilding. Exploding and leaving behind some foundations isn't.
21:07:14 Devastator: Same with gods murdering each other terribly.
21:09:05 Devastator: Man, I wonder why nobody made an environment based off of eating radiation.
21:09:27 ER: nom nom nom dleicious tumors
21:10:06 Devastator: It's quite workable,
ER.
21:10:08 ER: kitty is still trying for a elecromagnetic radiation based ecosystem. :v
21:10:16 Devastator: In the dark, because kitty is an idiot.
21:10:23 Devastator: and demanding that
NJW kill himself.
21:11:30 Devastator: Thinking of other constraints I'd like to use.
21:12:26 Devastator: "All life I create must be unicellular" seems pretty good.
21:14:43 Devastator: I'm pretty sure that scaling up symbiotic relationships between a couple kinds of unicellular life will lead to something complex enough to make intelligent.
21:20:33 Devastator: "I may not directly affect the creations of other gods."
21:21:06 Devastator: Would that be okay? Indirect effects would be fine, just I can't alter something directly.
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21:29:48 gentlefish: darn, I was hoping there would be a history when I visited. See what I've been missing in this dead corner of the webz
21:29:57 ER: I think that would work,
Dev.
21:30:42 gentlefish: oh neat. Damned by their own logs
21:31:19 gentlefish: Heh, it even shows the domain I'm chatting from.
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21:37:06 parisbre56: damn
ER, outing me as a slut
21:39:53 gentlefish: RIP me, I never stood a chance
21:40:38 ER: you can't ban me, I'm a pillar of this community.
21:47:00 Devastator: thank
paris for the logs, anyway.
22:00:56 parisbre56: you are a bunch of fun guys
22:01:03 parisbre56: even if I don't have much to offer
22:01:10 parisbre56: it's fun reading your shenanigans
22:03:57 Devastator: sorry for insulting Kittytac, though.
22:05:05 gentlefish: Heh. Kittytac can be pretty abrasive.
22:06:01 parisbre56: that
ER God game looks fun BTW
22:06:15 Devastator: Yeah. Do you want me to post there for the waitlist slot?
22:06:22 parisbre56: might join if I get inspiration for a fun God
22:06:26 Devastator: I don't usually like them, but the death and failure change things up a bit.
22:06:53 parisbre56: yeah, the limited resources make it look difficult
22:07:21 parisbre56: and the two planes give it the potential for different evolutionary paths colliding
22:09:03 Devastator: plus I want to make some metallivores and bacteria fuled by radiation.
22:09:09 Devastator: Much easier than messing about with stars.
22:11:10 ER: Stars would be difficult to get running without everyone working together.
22:11:51 Devastator: They go on their own if you have enough stuff together, which is the advantage of them.
22:12:20 parisbre56: why make stars? why make 3d beings at all? make some very basic 2d beings that constantly worship you
22:12:24 Devastator: but you don't need a star to create energy. Gravitational collapse alone from a jupiter-sized ball would provide decades worth of energy.
22:13:15 Devastator:
Paris, were you around for any of the show watches?
22:14:43 parisbre56: hmm... origami God. God of 2d and paper
22:14:49 Devastator: maybe I'll do a One Punch Man rewatch with you sometime.
22:19:46 Devastator: "I may only use odd numbered powers on odd turns, and even numbered powers on even turns." ;-p
22:20:44 ER: they're not really numbered...
22:21:22 ER: Ah, so you'd also completely lock yourself from using anything not on the list. gottit~
22:22:16 Devastator: That'd be limitation #4, if #3 contains that already. ;-p
22:23:14 ER: stipulations are not allowed to contain each other totally. ;\
22:24:53 Devastator: hmm. I'll think about it then.
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22:43:21 ER: I couldn't resist making a little discord sized icon for death plane :v
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