02:01:25 Devastator: the hold music for unsolicitated calls to a helpdesk.
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04:04:33 syv: The usual inanimate suspects, I see.
04:04:50 ER: been playing DS1, using the great scythe this time
04:05:00 Devastator: Might have something to talk about, actually.
04:05:06 syv: Yes! It's one of my favorite weapons.
04:05:16 syv: That running r1 is *so good*.
04:06:06 ER: my taste for blood and edgy things leads me to desire the lifehunt scythe though, so I'll be trying that later.
04:06:29 syv: It's also just great in PvP, if you know how to use it. It fights much differently from other weapons, and if you're clever, you can really use that to screw with people.
04:07:17 ER: yeah, the timings on the r1 and r2 are different
04:07:47 ER: the r2 is like a light attack, it just uses a lot of stamina
04:07:48 syv: The lifehunt scythe is pretty disappointing. Bleed is worthless against any but PvE, and there it's capped so bandit dagger's better. And it's noticably shorter, and heavier.
04:12:05 Devastator: I'm not a fan of all the exotics, but the kitten with the tape is hilarious.
04:13:38 ER: I had failed to realize that I was being invaded while alt-tabbed >_>
04:13:52 syv: Grr. Can't find that DaS video of somebody comboing a giantdad into a Lifehunt bleed riposte for over 3000 damage...
04:14:09 ER: the phantom was beating me slowly to death with her fists until I reopened the game :P
04:14:59 ER: watchdog said theit soul level was off, too, but I'm not really mad, just had a few souls on me
04:15:40 ER: I got an r2 in, that's good enough for me
04:21:39 syv: It's always more fun to *win* invasions, though.
04:22:55 ER: That's not something I've really done, so I couldn't say!
04:23:44 syv: You've beaten *me* before.
04:34:12 ER: iron golem? more like iron... scrub.
04:34:50 Devastator: Eh, even I beat the iron golem first try.
04:36:18 syv: I think I lost to golem the first time I fought him.
04:36:56 syv: Maybe the first couple times, actually. But I beat O&S on like my third try, so *shrug*
04:38:07 Devastator: Iron Golem didn't even do damage. I think
PW was watching, which was hilarious.
04:38:13 ER: I somehow beat megaornstein with the buff from summoning help by myself because you died somewhere in the first phase :V
04:39:19 syv: Super-O is really pretty straightforward if you have a shield, but still, good job.
04:48:17 Devastator: oh, that was the trick, then.
04:50:16 syv: I think the first half of DaS II did shields well. Easy to use and readily available, but fairly low block %, low stability, and high weight.
04:51:05 syv: Greatshields should be the only one with 100% block, and should be suitably heavy to be a real penalty.
04:51:24 syv: But nooo, not in DaS I, where the heater shield is god...
04:57:34 ER: why is everybody stabbing me in the back
04:57:49 syv: Because you're getting too close.
04:58:06 syv: The GS 1hr1 has amazing range, longer than most spears. Use it.
04:59:21 ER: also miss stagger, and painting dudes are actually good at dodging
05:02:00 syv: The 1-handing on the GS is mostly important for keeping PvP opponents guessing. It adds a defensive element to your attacks, since the 1hr1 is so good, and the R2 is still fast and wide. Plus, you can have an offhand weapon or shield. 2hr2 is mostly good for burst and pressure, but you can't have pressure 100% of the time or you'll get countered.
05:02:27 syv: It's not particularly useful in PvE, unless you really want to stay away from something for some reason.
05:02:59 syv: It also has a not-suicidal rolling R1, which is nice. One of the biggest flaws is the terrible 2hr2 roll attack.
05:04:08 syv: Though that in itself can be excellent with ravioli flips, since they look virtually identical to normal flips, but lead into the amazing running R1.
05:06:40 ER: apparantly hollow assassains are better acrobats than painting ninjas, judging by what happens when you hit each with Force. :P
05:06:41 Devastator: There's a DS Spanish Inquisition?
05:07:21 syv: Oh? Do hollow assassins have a special knockback animation?
05:07:22 ER: the assassains do a flip thing where they fly back but land on their feet, but the painting guardians apparantly aren't in on that trick
05:07:46 syv: They have several neat animations, like their backstab where they climb up on you and slit your neck.
05:07:56 ER: yeah, they have a special animation for that
05:07:59 syv: Painting assassins are just player model enemies.
05:08:19 syv: What about the Spanish Inquisition,
Dev?
05:08:29 ER: heh, I wish the player could do some of the things those hollows can
05:08:29 syv: Ohhh. The expect statement.
05:09:14 Devastator: There are different exploits. ;-p
05:09:58 syv: There's a lot of things PvPers don't expect. For instance, offhand murakumo (and curved GS, actually) has a phenomenal R1, way better than the normal R1. Rapier parries are also generally a surprise, oddly despite the popularity of curved sword waffle parries.
05:10:27 syv: Burrito parry? These names...
05:11:17 Devastator: Maybe I should name other obscure game stuff for comparison.
05:11:38 Devastator: The Not the nine-o-click News maneuver.
05:12:12 syv: I found the fracking ! Blood Loss ! combo, but it's been taken down dang it!
05:12:43 ER: anyway, should join darkmoon blades? they have a nice miracle and I'm still on the starting heal and force :V
05:13:55 syv: Sure, why not? The miracle is cancer but at least it's not usually used with the GS.
05:14:25 syv: It's pretty cheap and trivializes bosses, but you've prolly played enough for that not to be important.
05:15:26 ER: it's just that I'm a little desperate for miracles that are actually good :V
05:16:46 ER: oh yeah, they don't actually give it to you for joining. gotta go farm some crow dudes I guess
05:17:46 syv: No! Put on the ring, scrub!
05:18:17 syv: Also there aren't really good miracles. WoG, Darkmoon blade, and Sunlight Blade are about it.
05:19:10 ER: force is good at least for the hilarious things you can do to mobs with it :P
05:20:56 syv: Force is okay as a ranged kick that can dead angle, but it's still kinda poor. WoG is also just plain better.
05:22:05 syv: ...As a random note, did you know you can ghost strike with kicks, which looks like a badass roundhouse kick that pulls your enemy closer? I've never gotten ghost strikes down, but they look awesome.
05:31:16 Devastator: can you strike ghosts with a ghost strike?
05:34:27 syv: Not unless you're cursed or using a cursed weapon. So, no.
05:35:07 syv: It's just called that because it strikes through shields, despite visually facing forward for a moment during the strike.
05:47:42 Devastator: like a ghost pepper.
06:38:29 syv: Poor dragongirl, being killed for her fancy but poor weapon.
06:38:53 syv: Make sure you cut fluffy tail.
06:43:27 syv: Twenty estus, full health, nice. Ariamis is annoying to run through, unless you actually suffered through the skelemaze?
06:44:26 ER: I cleared the bonewheel maze if that's what you mean
06:45:28 syv: Jumpattacking the ass is faster anyway.
06:47:15 ER: I'm too completionist for that :P
06:47:36 ER: gotta get fire surge and everything, you know
06:47:49 ER: occult ember, pardoner fashion
06:56:43 ER: do I need to be human for the darkmoon ring to work?
06:58:37 syv: Fire surge is a decent finisher.
07:00:32 syv: ...Or, maybe not? I thought it did, but wikidot says it works the same as the cat ring, which doesn't? But it doesn't specifically say you can be hollow? I'unno, I never join that covvie.
07:00:45 syv: It helps to be high level, since it invades down.
07:02:09 ER: guess I could just murder his ass, grab sunlight blade, and run away to join the forest circus
07:03:31 syv: I don't think it breaks the covenant to murder the trap, just halves your offerings.
07:03:55 syv: The only thing rank is useful for, after you have the miracles, is powering up DB, and it doesn't really need more power anyway.
07:04:33 ER: I only found like 7 crow ears, so I don't even have the spell yet, would be easier to go the other way >.>
07:08:18 syv: You can't use the spell if you're out of the covenant anyway, so if you're being completionist might as well just kill him and get it over with.
07:35:23 ER: my skill has obviously deteriorated due to tiredness, so stopping now :V
07:36:03 syv: The easiest path to gitting gud is sleep.
07:37:46 syv: Or Refine? Start Refine off with three people, and you shouldn't get overburdened!
07:37:52 ER: hmm, that's a thing that exists, right?
07:38:15 syv: Do things exist when they aren't updated? No, but I wish...
07:38:18 ER: whatever, probably not as fun as DaS1...
07:38:46 syv: "Why am I doing this? I could be playing Dark Souls instead."
07:40:50 syv: ...I would actually buy that. Hmm. There's gotta be custom bumper sticker printers.
08:47:21 ER: too tired to form the thought that I should turn my monitor off because I'm tired.
08:47:52 ER: untill I actually think about what I'm doing, at which point I realize that I'm a tired idiot
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