ERLOG 2018-06-21

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00:21:58 ER has joined #einsteinianroulette
00:22:08 ER: o hai ther
00:24:04 syv: o/
00:29:12 ER: Aw, so Semblance doesn't let me turn into a plasma-breathing dragon and spew soul-powered sticky death all over everything like an Aigre?
00:29:22 ER: How reasonable!
00:33:23 ER: Hmm, so I guess with Finale Semblance, I'd end up with something more like... an armored giantess?
00:33:58 ER: hey
00:34:04 syv: Gahh I don't know, my mind is molasses...
00:34:38 syv: If you're a little cute dragon, maybe. Especially if the plasma breath is actually manabolt.
00:34:57 ER: If eating a witch can give me a point to put into their original power set... How many points would I get for eating a magical girl? :p
00:35:02 syv: Make your totem a throat and you could even get the totem boost. ><
00:35:25 syv: Witches ARE magical girls though
00:35:37 ER: "My totem is freddie's throat-nozzle!"
00:36:02 ER: ...So, same rewards, then
00:38:17 syv: Make your totem a flamethrower and summon it inside your neck.
00:39:06 ER: That sounds like it might hurt
00:41:40 syv: But twisting your body into the shape of a metallic dragon wouldn't...?
00:44:02 ER: Nah, cause you're turning into a fuckin dragon and that's too cool to hurt
00:44:57 syv: Swallowing a flamethrower is totally awesome too tho
00:45:52 syv: Make it a weird techno-organic flamethrower, so it actually looks like internal organs.
00:49:18 ER: Fits with creative being a fleshhorror, I guess
00:51:52 ER: Hey, does eating an uncurrupted soulgem still reduce your maximum soul or something like that? I remember that being a thing but that was before the game actually started and I don't see rules for that in the OP.
00:52:00 syv: Though flamethrower doesn't really fit, flamethrowers are for PURGING. That's more a Purity thing.
00:52:46 syv: I removed the "eat other girls for magical power" thing to promote cooperation. And because the game's hard enough as-is.
00:53:02 ER: awwww :p
00:54:05 syv: https://i.imgur.com/1pySr4w.gif
00:54:07 ER: I'm guessing you're not going to be adding NPC magical girls anytime soon?
00:54:17 syv: Nooope.
00:54:39 ER: puuuuuurging wiiiith my kiiiiiiiin...
00:55:03 syv: That'd just be unfair, making a DMPC when I both know the system better AND am a better munchkin regardless.
00:56:10 syv: Though, actually... Hmm.
00:56:54 ER: b-but then there's basically no reason for them to fight each other, because the game is pretty much leaning towards co-operative.
00:57:40 syv: I'd prolly actually have people meet Hannah if that were less of a random "FUCK YOU". Maybe Victoria or something.
00:59:08 ER: Throwing Hannah at them would be hilarious and you should do it~
00:59:53 ER: *teleports behind u*
01:02:16 syv: MG PvP doesn't really work well for an actual game, the classes are built way too chaotically. Innocence and Joy have autowins for one. And if an MG doesn't fight the players, what *do* they do? Help with labyrinths? Just RP a little then flip people off and run away before they're actually useful?
01:03:41 syv: Really any MG NPC would have to be utterly contrived or downright fucked in the head.
01:04:27 ER: Hehe. I was going to have at least one whole temple of magical girls in my game. And the ability to drain one's soul in such a way that they become and obediant husk rather than a witch.
01:04:57 syv: That sounds horribly unbalanced and OP/
01:05:20 syv: Murder: Still the best strategy in the post-apocolypse.
01:06:40 ER: muuuuurderrrrrr
01:09:22 Devastator: murder?
01:11:50 syv: Murder.
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01:12:45 MidJag: Allo
01:12:50 ER: hia
01:13:34 MidJag: Got my comp fixed, amazingly it's not actually on fire. :P
01:14:32 Devastator: Aww, no weaponized magnesium plates.
01:14:41 syv: oh, you're rare
01:14:54 syv throws a pokeball at the shiny jaguar
01:15:05 MidJag: Hey, Jaguars are endangered.
01:15:07 MidJag: :P
01:15:26 ER: Endangered means Delicious!
01:17:55 syv: *firmly disagree*
01:18:14 syv: Chickens will always taste fowl, no matter how many of the blighters we kill.
01:18:32 Devastator: They're much more fun to follow.
01:19:15 MidJag: Ah haha, this keyboard actually works. It's so nice.
01:20:32 MidJag: I wonder if knoledge of how rare something is makes the taste subjectivelly better.
01:21:58 syv: Probably does for some people. Even serving food stylishly can make people think it tastes better than if it were served in a tupperware.
01:23:25 syv: "Oh, my gourmet albacore is arranged in the shape of a smiling face, how delightful!"
01:23:50 Devastator: Yes.
01:24:45 Devastator: No semblance dragons?
01:25:00 Devastator: I'd expect a MG could do a semblance dragon, albeit one without firebreath.
01:25:43 Devastator: (reading the logs.)
01:25:55 Devastator: Maybe not a huuuge one.
01:27:12 Devastator: would there be a size limit?
01:27:49 ER: "Smaller than an Abrams"
01:28:29 Devastator: Ahh, ok.
01:28:37 ER: Are semblance forms still fairly constrained by physics? Could a dragon fly without having massive wings?
01:28:41 Devastator: Should be plenty of dragon that can fit inside an Abrams.
01:28:50 Devastator: Probably, but Mobility would kick in.
01:29:42 ER: Good old Mobility, solving all our problems with pesky physics
01:30:00 ER: fuck you, gravity!
01:30:24 Devastator: Yeah. A Mob 1 dragon with large but not massive wings might not be a good flyer, but I'd bet a Mobility 2 dragon could.
01:31:11 Devastator: A Mob 0 dragon probably couldn't get off the ground.
01:33:47 syv: Little girls can already double jump with Mob 3, sure a dragon could fly.
01:34:12 syv: Hell, I'd let Mina fly if she turned her arms into wings, and that seems even *more* impractical to me.
01:34:47 ER: Depends how big they are by the end. And if she buffs up her muscles.
01:35:10 syv: https://youtu.be/W57EjnIJu7Q
01:35:29 syv: This is awesome, if for no other reason than he catches a .50 BMG.
01:36:14 syv: Also, I didn't know you could buy Raufoss rounds without being military, that's awesome.
01:36:30 ER: ...if nothing else, murrica gun laws allow for entertaining youtube videos!
01:37:32 ER: wow, that looks like quite a bullet
01:37:42 syv: "Eh, why shouldn't civvies be allowed to buy high-explosive armor piercing incendiary anti materiel rounds?"
01:39:33 ER: That hole in the track though
01:40:03 ER: Need to ask PW if we can have some of those to kill the magebreaker with . :D
01:40:09 syv: Pff, it's a fifty. Punching through a half inch of steel is the whole point.
01:40:28 ER: just... a very circular hole
01:40:37 ER: like it wasn't even trying!
01:41:12 syv: Ahahaha, you need to watch more demolition ranch!
01:42:01 syv: That guy loves to show off his M107, the high lord of bigass bullets.
01:43:24 MidJag: I'm probably the minority here, but vet rench is also really cool.
01:46:10 syv: It is. He's just a good Youtuber in general.
01:47:49 ER: pew pew
01:48:15 MidJag: Suture suture
01:50:47 ER: dakka dakka!
01:50:55 syv: You know what we should totally do sometime...? A DF succession fort. Between the four of us. Little or no writing, just fucking around and trying to make a functioning fort between four different playstyles.
01:51:48 ER: I haven't played much, so that's a recipe for incompatance
01:52:36 syv: All the better!
01:52:41 MidJag: I haven't played if forever, but sure.
01:52:51 syv: DF is no fun when you know what you're doing.
01:54:24 ER: In the latest version we'll be able to conquer nearby sites with our dwarves, so that should be fun.
01:54:45 ER: Unless Dev insists on playing 40d ;P
01:55:08 MidJag: Dev would have us play Slaves to armok.
01:55:31 ER: oh dear
01:56:10 syv: 40d was pretty fun, I spent most of my DF time in 40d.
01:56:33 syv: Only played 2d a couple times, way way long ago.
02:03:18 syv: HEY DEV YOU WATCHED MY LITTLE PONY ONCE RIGHT
02:03:37 syv: WHAT DID YOU THINK OF IT?
02:03:42 syv: DEVASTATOR.
02:16:42 MidJag: Wait, we have logs?
02:17:00 MidJag: no wait, dev just never logs off. Right.
02:17:28 syv: We do have logs now. Kinda. Long as Paris graces us with them.
02:17:37 syv: https://parisbre56.com:9992/cgi-bin/cgitest.pl?date=1529452800
02:17:49 ER: https://parisbre56.com:9992/cgi-bin/cgitest.pl?date=1529539200
02:17:52 ER: damn
02:18:15 MidJag: neat
02:19:54 ER: If only we controlled the channel topic, we could put that there everyone can see it. :P
02:20:34 syv: We can't control the channel topic though.
02:20:54 syv: The entire chatroom needs to empty of people first, and we have four perpetually active people.
02:21:07 ER: "active" :P
02:21:13 syv: *joined. Not active. They're basically zombies, 'cept for Dev.
02:21:33 syv: Pretty sure we could also get a dicebot if we did that, too...
02:48:50 ER: so much talking in PW discord
02:49:31 ER: and moth pictures
02:50:59 MidJag: I have a bunch of flies pictures but no moth picutres unfortunetlly
02:51:05 MidJag: ^fly
02:51:30 ER: Hmm. I sometimes take pictures of random bugs that I think look cool.
02:51:39 ER: Not sure if any of them are moths
02:52:51 syv: Moths are pretty distinctive looking, though?
02:53:10 syv: Ask PW why it's moths and not more interesting bugs. Like spiders.
02:53:17 ER: I mean that I don't remember specificall all the things I have photographed. :P
03:01:24 ER: [11:01 PM] Mr.Bones: Its moths because Sy isn't here to offer ideas while the thing is taking form
03:01:25 ER: [11:01 PM] Mr.Bones: no one to blame but himself~
03:01:46 syv: SPIDERS
03:01:51 syv: TELL HIM SPIDERS
03:02:11 ER: kay
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04:19:44 syv: Y'all're boring
04:19:45 MidJag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVE8kSM43I
04:20:09 syv: Yoller boring?
04:20:51 ER: we're boring?
04:20:55 syv: Almost 200 mil views and it's not VEVO, nor have I ever heard of them, huh.
04:21:23 MidJag: You've never heard of slipknot? Dude, your misssing out.
04:22:23 MidJag: Though this a better song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5abamRO41fE
04:22:24 syv: Kay, kay, lemme go find headphones..
04:23:33 ER: I guess if I'm being boring, I should ask when Henry makes her inglorious return?
04:23:46 MidJag: Henry?
04:24:02 syv: The Creative.
04:24:02 ER: ...no, Harry
04:24:08 ER: probably
04:24:10 syv: Wait, yeah, Harry.
04:24:20 ER: dammit, names!
04:24:24 syv: And shit Dev didn't know her class.
04:24:28 syv: >.<
04:24:35 ER: Heh.
04:24:41 MidJag: heh
04:24:46 syv: I AM TIRED
04:25:11 ER: Well I told him that I was wearing a different body now and there's not a lot of powers that'll actually do that.
04:25:17 syv has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
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04:25:37 syv: FUCK YOU TWO INTERNET ORBITERS
04:25:41 syv: TOO
04:25:43 syv: GAAAH
04:25:57 ER: [angry syv noises]
04:26:15 syv: [caffeinated sleepless sigh nosies]
04:26:19 MidJag: I assume that's like standered angry noise just with more small arms fire in the background
04:26:54 syv: Nooo, guns are a happy thing! I've never fired a gun in anger.
04:27:26 syv: I have similar feelings about guns as many people do about affectionate dogs
04:28:08 MidJag: I bet they are worse at playing fetch though :P
04:28:39 syv: Well, only if you want the thing you're fetching to be in one piece at the end.
04:28:44 ER: Well, they're worse at playing "catch and release"...
04:28:53 syv: Dogs are horrible at catching clays, I've seen them try. ;P
04:29:58 syv: But seriously I have weird feelings about guns. Like, when I hear about somebody having never gotten the opportunity to go shooting, I feel as one might feel after hearing that some kid's parents told them they can't have a pet dog.
04:30:14 syv: My brain may be sooomewhat cracked.
04:30:39 MidJag: heh, I mean it wouldn't be a very good brain if it was smooth.
05:00:31 ER: But yeah.
05:00:55 ER: When does I get to contenue the very interesting journy of Harry the flesh horror
05:01:25 syv: When you, Dev, and myself are all online, and I'm actually conscious.
05:01:36 syv: So Friday at the soonest.
05:01:47 ER: Are you currently actually consious?
05:01:53 syv: no
05:01:54 ER: you're so lifelike!
05:02:07 syv: I'm in a weird state that's kinda like it but also different
05:20:29 Devastator: yo
05:20:35 syv: YOU
05:20:45 syv: MLP. YOU SAW, YES?
05:20:48 syv: OPINION.
05:20:54 Devastator: No, I haven't.
05:21:55 syv: Huh.
05:22:26 syv: I thought you did. Must've confused you with someone else who has the same weirdly sedate and bored perspective on fandom things.
05:22:44 Devastator: I have seen bits and pieces of it here and there, but I haven't watched it in any steady way.
05:22:55 Devastator: I know of a few people who watch it regularly, though.
05:22:58 syv: Opinion anyway?
05:23:16 Devastator: Seems competent enough if not really interesting.
05:23:51 syv: ...This is the opinion I remember hearing, given in about those words.
05:26:32 Devastator: Maybe you asked me what I think about it before.
05:26:39 Devastator: I haven't watched any serious amount of it.
05:27:12 syv: bah prolly.
05:39:37 ER: ponies
06:11:24 ER: so, when you starting a game again MidJag? :p
06:11:36 MidJag cackles
06:11:39 MidJag: I have no idea
06:12:39 syv: When he has free time, four decades from now,
06:21:05 MidJag: Just about, This summer is suprisnglly busy.
06:23:22 syv: Humm, Mainpiston I took place in WWII, maybe Mainpiston II will take place in World War III, starting in the late 2020s.
06:23:55 syv: "The War of Hindsight" they'll call it.
06:24:00 ER: nah, Veitnam war mainpiston. :P
06:24:06 syv: :I
06:24:12 syv: That does sound tasty.
06:24:37 MidJag: I was planning on setting it in the 60's and 70's around 'nam. But a future setting might be fun I will consider it, but no promises.
06:25:21 MidJag: Though I've got no idea how the hell daemons would affect complicated computers.
06:25:33 MidJag: So I guess that's a thing to figure out.
06:25:50 MidJag: Since they had simple ones back in the 60's
06:25:53 MidJag: and 70's
06:26:09 MidJag: Though I suppose Dev would know that stuff better than me.
06:26:42 ER: Make it so all the islands start falling, so everyone has to live underground to hide from the surface horrors. :P
06:26:53 MidJag: heh
06:28:15 syv: Nah, no scifi, stick to your base. History's whatcha know, and Mainpiston's more about althistory than alttech.
06:29:11 ER: make a world where people don't understand wheels. you know, for fun.
06:29:19 MidJag: Mainpiston III might end up being alt history. :P IN SPACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
06:31:12 MidJag: Really Mainpiston is like alt hisotry and a businessman strapping on a flak jacket and grabbing a shotgun for his morning commute against arieal beasts :P
06:31:13 syv: And they still fly between island cities with twin-engine bombers.
06:31:37 syv: Like spelljammer but Nazis.
06:32:16 syv: "Like Spelljammer, but with Nazis instesd of wizards." I like this.
06:32:21 syv: Someone should do this.
06:33:55 MidJag: Huh, I wonder what woodstock looks like in MP's world....and no I've got to figure out beast mod reactions to drugs. :P
06:34:00 MidJag: ^and now
06:36:02 MidJag: Hmm, I suppose there would certainlly be a detoxification mods. Which would make sense. Hmm,
06:37:39 ER: walllcilla sees no reason to be intoxicated, so makes creatures that eliminate toxins autonomously. And implants them in his allies without telling them.
06:39:02 syv: Hmm. Nazijammers. Nazis discovered the secrets of occult magic long ago, and were all driven insane. If you listen to their crazed babbling long enough, you also become a Nazi. They have random dangerous magical effects that appear around them, generally 40K warpy junk. They're also an amazing source of power; strap a Nazi down in the cockpit of a Nazijammer bomber, and their occult power will automatically be drawn in
06:40:02 ER: wow
06:40:21 syv: I can come up with impressively stupid things sometimes.
06:40:29 MidJag: intresting
06:40:37 ER: who needs magical girls to power the universe when you have nazis
06:42:22 MidJag: huh, I guess I'll also need to figure out the implications of all the soliders coming home with various beast and daemon mods depening on what they did and if they got injured.
06:45:33 syv: The earth is in the middle of a massive war between the capitalists and communists, who both harness Nazis to create powerful bombs and massive tanks which can only move because the Nazis *thinking* tanks that big can move. Most civilians are being forced to evacuate, with the moon as an important crossing point, but it's a dangerous place because before the Nazis were defeated and scattered, they hollowed the whole thing
06:47:03 ER: Does things being powered by nazi orkiness mean that we can have MECHS?
06:47:35 syv: Yes. But they have to look like they came out of Wulfenstein.
06:47:51 syv: If they don't look suitably Nazi-ish then they don't work.
06:48:03 ER: Also, having a cold war with nuclear ICBMs literally powered by nazis is funny. :P
06:48:39 syv: The remaining free Nazis have banded together and created a small hidden base on Pluto, which is actually a wad of ice frozen around the severed head of the elder god Heet'la, who they believe their (dead) leader to have been a reincarnation of. They plan to thaw out the entire planet so that their god can eat the solar system and regenerate his body, which they will then live happily upon in a perfect utopian aryan societ
06:49:14 syv: Uhh.
06:49:20 syv: I'm done.
06:49:28 ER: nice, though
06:50:11 ER: a grimdark world where the warmachines look grim and dark because they would literally not work otherwise.
06:51:56 MidJag: hmmmm, should be interesting. Some resentment to be sure I would expect given some of the instability of the beast upgrades, but then I suppose it's not like everyone would have them. The guys who lost limbs would have them and anyone in a paritcuatlly specialized force would likelly have something. so it would be enough that everyone would know someone but it's not like everyone would have it
06:53:03 syv: Especially if people who lost limbs get them, I'd think beast mods would be a mark of honor.
06:53:29 syv: At least if the citizens are war-positive, which if this is Vietnam...
06:53:59 MidJag: I'm thinking old veterans from WWII and how that's affecting the national pysche intially
06:54:07 ER: *it aint me starts playing*
06:54:46 MidJag: but vietnam would definetlly change things
06:54:54 MidJag: Gonna be a fun setting
06:55:01 MidJag: And anyway, good night
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06:55:15 syv: That was sudden.
06:55:40 ER: Glorious veterans come back from the war with sweet beast mods, everyone wants them. Then a bunch of people get them, and some things explode. Cue beast patriot act.
06:56:04 syv: ...Patriot act? The surveillance one?
06:56:20 Devastator: back.
06:56:48 syv: You just missed Jaggers.
06:56:49 Devastator: heya.
06:57:04 Devastator: Yeah, looks like he had fun.
06:57:18 Devastator: 'Nam, the sci-fi game.
06:58:21 syv: ...Also, any Nazi-powered vehicles need to have a big, centrally located and often glowing weak spot, which if damaged will explode and consume the entire vehicle. They don't work otherwise.
06:58:58 ER: Does the Nazi survive the explosion?
06:59:10 syv: yyyeesss
06:59:23 Devastator: Only if he's a Nazi Scientist.
06:59:27 Devastator: Regular Nazis just die.
06:59:37 syv: And he always screams as he falls downward. Or towards Pluto if he's in space.
07:00:23 syv: Pluto has a magnetic effect on Nazis and this is used for navigation, because the magnetic field of Earth has been ravaged by powerful weapons.
07:00:47 ER: The nazis have defined "down" as towards the center of pluto, and thanks to orkiness, that IS where down if now. :p
07:01:02 syv: You can make a semi-reliable handheld compass by rubbing a needle on a Nazi's silk greatcoat five hundred times.
07:01:35 Devastator: You should tell random that the boat these people are on is like six inches from shore, and Sasha could easily step over.
07:02:18 ER: would it be true?
07:02:23 syv: Naaah, encouraging Random to have Aleksandra take actions would be... not in her interest.
07:02:54 syv: It's also more like several feet from 'shore' by the time she can get to it, though the water's like a foot deep at worst.
07:03:08 Devastator: Fair enough.
07:03:18 syv: Even if she could get to it, she's a twelve year old, she ain't pulling anyone off.
07:03:21 Devastator: ..we are probably floating in, in all liklihood.
07:04:41 ER: Totally encourage the 12 year old with an ak to go in with you and provide fire support.
07:04:55 ER: nothing immoral about that, nope~
07:04:55 Devastator: Yeah.. I don't see that working well.
07:04:59 Devastator: Small girl, big gun.
07:05:24 ER: Hopefully she knows enough to not go full-auto?
07:05:28 syv: Alida has an action to get a human off the boat, would she be hopping back on right after? Otherwise it'll prolly start getting away.
07:05:48 syv: Statistically speaking, she does~
07:05:59 syv: It wouldn't be the first gun safety check she's failed, though.
07:06:00 Devastator: Yeah, repeat the process until it'll take magic to get people off.
07:06:35 Devastator: I mostly want to see if the minion aggros and to see if Sasha can actually hit anything with that gun.
07:07:50 ER: If the first shot kills the enemy, it doesn't matter if the recoil bowls you over!
07:07:59 Devastator: Of course, if we have to swim in we want that boat. I thought there were steps though.
07:08:11 ER: Hopefully mister faceless isn't as strong as mister wires...
07:08:22 Devastator grumbles that having to swim while carrying someone is another problem that would be solved by Alida becoming a large werewolf.
07:08:25 Devastator: Probably stronger.
07:08:50 syv: I never mentioned steps, but the sides of the canal are sloped, smoothly enough that anyone could walk up to the entrance.
07:09:22 syv: ...Also humans float. Just... FYI.
07:09:38 Devastator: Yeah, but would you count on swimming while carrying a gun without getting the gun soaked?
07:10:30 Devastator: A mobility 2 magical girl could probably do that without difficulty, and a Mob 3 one could probably run on the water surface.
07:11:16 syv: It's an AK-47, man.
07:11:16 Devastator: But less than that and it'll get wet.
07:11:27 syv: Gun's aren't made of paper.
07:11:39 Devastator: Yeah, it isn't going to get wrecked, but I don't think it'll shoot straight for a bit.
07:12:16 Devastator: Plus canal water might be salt water.
07:12:26 Devastator: I don't want to fill my gun with salt water.
07:12:51 ER: Shake it off, maybe cycle the bolt or whatever. good as new~
07:12:55 syv: ...Nnnooo, it won't really care. Get the water out of the barrel, action, and mag, you're good. Maybe the first shot will be affected. And it won't be good long term, no.
07:13:27 Devastator: ok.
07:13:51 syv: Frogmen actually carried normal AKs underwater, before that crazy needlerifle was deisgned.
07:14:09 ER: Though, the first shot being affected might be relevent if, you know, said first shot bowls you over. :P
07:14:43 ER: Aw yeah, awesome underwater guns
07:15:18 Devastator: ok.
07:15:58 ER: Hmm, time for more Mimicry questions, perhaps? ;P
07:16:00 syv: Eh, true. The recoil really just bowled her over because she'd never fire it before. A twelve year old could totally handle an AK's recoil... though accuracy at anything beyond short range would be nil, she'd flinch *hard*. Hmm.
07:16:38 syv: I'm just going to ignore the fact that I want to make her roll three different stats every time she fires her gun and let every aspect of it be handled by Joy. Because that's fair.
07:16:49 Devastator: That's what Joy does.
07:17:00 ER: The way I understand it, Mimicry 3 would let me do things like use the plan for a whole human body to add new limbs to myself in different places. Is that true?
07:17:30 syv: Sure.
07:17:57 syv: Make yourself into a human centipede if you want, mimicry allows a ton of freedom.
07:18:22 ER: Does that mean that if I have the form of a rifle, I could "add" that rifle to my body somewhere, then detatch it and have a functioning gun seperate from my body?
07:19:22 syv: Strictly speaking no, but that's boring and I would glare at you.
07:19:43 ER: you mean yes?
07:19:53 syv: ...yes.
07:20:07 Devastator: Boredrom means suffering.
07:20:26 ER: I'm just saying, this could be used as a soul-cheaper version of totem manip. :P
07:20:42 ER: Though only really at L3
07:20:43 syv: Except totemmanip gives infinite free totems at L3.
07:20:48 Devastator: Totem manip is pretty cheap at L3.
07:20:51 syv: Soooo...
07:21:03 Devastator: What's the cost for a new club at L1 again?
07:21:19 ER: Mimicry lets you do chemical stuff without having a misc totem though.
07:21:40 syv: TM at L1 grants new totems at minor cost. I don't think I've ever classed clubs as a particularly small totem, so they'd still be minor.
07:21:59 Devastator: so more than cheap, then?
07:22:02 syv: It sure does, ER.
07:22:05 syv: Yes.
07:22:23 ER: So, summon actually loaded guns, of all the different kinds that you can stomach the cost in requiring low soul.
07:22:59 ER: And unlike an innocent, you only need to steal ONE gun, and then you're set. :P
07:23:05 Devastator: Ouch, those clubs are expensive then. I've probably spent much of my soul just on clubs.
07:23:17 syv: Eat C4 w/ detonator. Summon C4 at minor cost, pretend to be a Joy.
07:24:14 ER: Convince Dev that I'm totally a Joy and that he shouldn't be looking out for Creative tricks. >.>
07:24:39 Devastator: You already said you'd have someone else's face next time you show up.
07:24:46 Devastator: So unelss you skin someone, you're a Cre.
07:24:54 Devastator: Or had someone change your face for you.
07:25:15 ER: Maybe I did some fun Mercy stuff, you dunno. :P
07:26:26 Devastator: ..can you list the costs for me again? I currently think it goes Cheap -> Minor -> Medium -> Major -> Massive -> Finale, with Finale being about half a full soul gem.
07:26:54 ER: This next part sure would be easier if mind control worked on JW. I got offered two levels in Purity, but that won't work because your will is that of an action hero.
07:27:02 syv: That order is correct, but I don't recall ever specifying how much of a soul gem any of them were?
07:27:32 syv: Also, "moderate" rather than "medium", but they're synonyms so *shrug*
07:27:40 ER: I assumed that Finale was less than half. Maybe closer to a level and a half
07:27:47 Devastator: Yeah, I'm guessing at Finale.
07:28:16 ER: Though nothing proves that all the soul levels are even equal.
07:28:31 ER: Or that there's not randomness to cost levels...
07:28:40 Devastator: O dpm
07:28:48 Devastator: I don't think there's randomness to cost levels.
07:28:50 Devastator: Not sure, though.
07:28:54 syv: There's actually a lot of assumptions about how soul works, which I've felt is rather entertaining.
07:29:16 Devastator: Well, all I'm sure of is that Alida is far too close to empty for comfort.
07:30:06 ER: When I was considering how I might do it, there was the idea of rolling a die every time a cost comes up, and stripping a level off if you roll above a certain number, which is determined by the cost.
07:30:44 ER: so a minor might be like 1/10, while a major is 1/2 and finale is guaranteed.
07:31:36 Devastator: Hmm, that seems interesting.
07:31:38 Devastator: Not sure, though.
07:31:45 syv: I will say, Finales ALWAYS cost more than one stage of soul brightness.
07:31:52 Devastator: Probably too low a cost for big cost items. I think some take more than one stage.
07:32:27 ER: Could always make some things take multiple levels with that.
07:33:10 ER: But that system would make it nearly impossible to work out EXACTLY how much things cost, which seems like a syvvy thing.
07:33:19 syv: :)
07:34:29 ER: If I get really angry while casting things, will this have an effect on my soul level? :P
07:34:35 Devastator: Yes.
07:35:22 syv: I think I updated one of Purity's powers to specifically mention and aork eith that effect...
07:35:23 ER: Soul Tendancy, man.
07:35:35 syv: *work sith
07:35:37 syv: EITH
07:35:41 syv: WITH
07:37:44 ER: Ah, Incite draws on my own emotion?
07:37:53 ER: Not just anger.
07:38:48 syv: Magic works with all emotions, I don't see why you'd be limited to transmitting anger. Unless you just hate everything.
07:39:11 ER: I hate *most* things. Does that count?~
07:39:28 ER: Also: I should have used Prattle on JW, dammit.
07:40:02 ER: If nothing else, L3 drains his soul, which we've seen work on mortals.
07:40:12 ER: Or at least, their soul level mattering.
07:40:49 syv: That was waaay back in the testgame though, I've changed a lot of things since then.
07:40:52 ER: ...Is soul level even one-dimensional?
07:41:30 ER: Well, magic uses emotion, and we can see emotion, and that include mortal emotions...
07:42:01 syv: Not saying it's wrong. Just saying it's not a 100% guaranteed depiction.
07:42:30 ER: Also the white cat says that they offer human contracts because they are already magic, rather than to grant them magic. Which is admittedly not YOUR lore, but I find it relevent.
07:42:33 ER: ;P
07:43:33 ER: Oh hey wierd apes that violate thermodynamics. let's get in on that.
07:43:51 syv: Asha used Soothe on a cat, you know.
07:44:23 ER: Maybe it's in all earth life and humans are just the most relevent.
07:44:24 syv: I hope she tries to Soothe Aleksandra'sgun or something, that would be a fun scene to write.
07:44:31 ER: Magical kittens when.
07:44:34 ER: fuck
07:44:42 ER: that might be what Pumsey is.
07:45:45 ER: Isabella claimed to have the same... power to make people magical, I think?
07:46:14 syv: He is a cub, which is what you call a tiger kitten. And considering where he shows up, and the fact that he can talk, implies magic, or at least something indistinguishable from it, is at work.
07:46:31 ER: So, it might not be limited to humans, and the tiger cub might not be different from us.
07:46:53 Devastator: that should work.
07:46:56 Devastator: soothing a gun.
07:47:15 ER: Leave it to syv to give a gun a soul, eh? ;P
07:47:29 ER: Though, it raises the question
07:47:34 syv: Guns have souls, that's why they should have gun rights! End gun slavery, the abuse of innocent firearms has gone on too long!
07:47:39 ER: Does anything NOT have a soul?
07:47:49 ER: What would be special about living things?
07:47:54 Devastator: Pink tiger kittens.
07:47:59 Devastator: bunnycats.
07:48:01 syv shrugs
07:48:33 ER: bunnycats are ayy lmaos from outer space. The tiger cub is rather more evidently earthling.
07:48:43 syv: Really?
07:50:57 syv: Power and Pulse when?
07:51:49 ER: when I feeeeeeel like it~
07:52:50 syv: It should be updated by the time I wake up. -.-
07:52:55 Devastator: So they are soulless then.
07:52:58 syv: Now, sleep. And night.
07:53:04 ER: damn story-based team PvP is a fuckin weird setup. does the thing that I've made even make sense?
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07:53:21 Devastator: wonder what happens when someone uses soul magic on Pumsy.
07:53:23 Devastator: Aww.
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19:19:47 Radio_Controlled: Good evening you poor dogs in a world of sand.
19:26:30 ER: gud eggernog
19:29:19 Radio_Controlled: Eggnog? Never had it.
19:29:38 ER: eggnog? what that
19:29:46 ER: is it liker aggernogs?
19:31:27 Radio_Controlled: They sound sort of similar, so must be.
19:37:04 Radio_Controlled: So, you gonna moth huh?
19:39:14 ER: gunsmith/bookworm/diver moth, because that's not too many specializations at all! :D
19:40:35 Radio_Controlled: No way that can go wrong at all.
19:40:45 Radio_Controlled: None at all!
19:44:23 Radio_Controlled: Maybe add swashbuckling to that list while you're at it.
19:45:17 ER: it belongs in a museum
19:45:31 ER: by which I mean it belongs in my personal lore crate
19:45:35 Radio_Controlled: -My- museum.
19:52:21 Radio_Controlled: So I take it you'll be buying a black book then?
19:53:05 ER: Depends. I haven't made the character yet, I dunno how much money I'll have.
19:53:29 ER: I'll probably grab at least a reproduction for my book pile if I turn out to be poor.
19:53:43 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, the random money makes planning a bit more difficult.
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20:14:29 Radio_Controlled: I take you'll be playing as an abomination, Devastator? :p
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23:31:05 Devastator: hmm?
23:31:08 Devastator: Not ER's aboms.
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