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00:50:20 Devastator: Got my first Slurpee of the summer.
01:04:11 Devastator: Also,
MJ, my computer isn't showing the latest update of Prequel correctly.
01:04:25 Devastator: What's it look like?
01:06:56 MidJag: Uhhh, like a a bunch of stars with a jagged blue line that follows the words.
01:08:11 Devastator: anything at the bottom?
01:10:33 MidJag: buncha stars, no discernable pattern
01:13:38 Devastator: no planet at the bottom?
01:14:39 Devastator: Hmm, thought there were some other elements at work.
01:22:53 Devastator: with a numberpad visible somewhere on the page.
01:23:12 Devastator: 8068480098 is the code at the back of it.
01:25:15 MidJag: Not as far as I can tell? But, I'll have to check
01:26:11 Devastator: Eh, it's okay. I don't think there's a hidden game, so I'm not missing anything important.
01:31:32 Devastator: (I've won two prizes. I don't want to miss prize #3.)
01:33:16 Devastator: They're little buttons about 2" in diameter with pictures of Katia and Quill-Weave on them.
01:33:48 MidJag: That's really cool actually
01:33:52 Devastator: Katia was first, for running over rooftops, Quill-Weave was second for the fire runes one.
01:34:03 Devastator: Yeah, I was lucky to get the second one.
01:34:24 Devastator: I had to do a shift almost as soon as upload happened, and there were still some left when I got back.
01:34:40 Devastator: First one I was there and they were out in about 90 minutes, so fortunate then as well.
01:36:43 Devastator: Unfortunately I didn't get the blue-coloured first one, only the green one. There were fewer blue ones that went out first.
01:36:55 Devastator: I'm sure someone has a picture of them on the internet.
01:38:45 MidJag: That's really neat actually
01:40:57 Devastator: Hmm.. can't find pictures of them, actually.
01:41:10 Devastator: maybe I should check e-bay.
01:42:17 Devastator: maybe your google-fu is better.
01:45:48 Devastator: I know I could find a picture shortly after the event.
02:13:28 Devastator: Ahh, in looking around I went to the TVtropes page. That boat flash has Guide Dang it on the alternate nightmares and the secret ending. I got all of those without any help. :-D
02:22:24 Devastator: (Well, it was obvious there were secret endings, and the rest was just working it out.)
02:23:31 Devastator: That's the second one.
02:23:40 Devastator: I kept my note, too, it's right here.
02:25:19 MidJag: That's fucking cool dude.
02:25:34 Devastator: mine is blue and not black, but that could be just the lighting.
02:26:14 Devastator: a bit funny. "Supposedly there's a prize, but I think the prizes are a lie and the goal is impossible."
02:26:18 Devastator: "Nope, be jealous of my skill."
02:27:25 Devastator: It's pretty damn hard, though. The first one wasn't easy, but is easy in comparison. I think it took me an hour to get the second one.
02:28:41 Devastator: Yeah. I did like one or two tries, then did my shift, and it took an hour after getting back.
02:29:06 Devastator: There's the game, if you care to try.
02:37:59 Devastator: Prizes are for 105 seconds or fewer.
02:38:14 Devastator: A perfect score is 100 or 101, thereabouts.
02:38:21 Devastator: I think I got my prize with a no-hit 103.
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04:32:39 syv: A
MidJag yet no
ER, how strange.
04:32:55 syv: ...And it's not asleep, either!
04:59:00 syv: Hiya, my favorite RSS feed.
05:13:22 Devastator: Not sure what the update actually looks like.
05:13:27 Devastator: it doesn't show up well.
05:14:01 Devastator: Also, there's skelebones.
05:14:17 syv: A big starfield with a meandering blue line going down the page, occasionally drawing little pictograms alongside paragraphs of exposition.
05:14:34 syv: Yeah, I found the skeletons on my own! :)
05:14:57 Devastator: How are you supposed to see the skeletons? I think there's supposed to be a keypad that doesn't show up for me.
05:15:21 syv: At the bottom there's six stars, which can be grabbed and dragged. If you drag all of them as far as you can, then scroll down, there's a clickable asteroid which summons a keypad.
05:15:31 Devastator: I found the asteroid.
05:15:54 Devastator: but the stars don't drag for me.
05:16:05 syv: If you type in a full 10-digit phone number, it either buzzes or shows skeletons. I found the skeletons on my fourth try by pure luck.
05:16:30 Devastator: oh, there's a passcode in the 'that book' link.
05:16:36 syv: There's also a link earlier to a book gid which has a number written in it, and that number aldo gives the--
05:16:57 Devastator: Some sort of CSS issue for me.
05:17:02 syv: I know I typed 7 at least once, so there's a bunch of numbers which work.
05:17:48 Devastator: Yes, but I turned it off when I saw there were issues.
05:17:50 syv: I like to imagine Katia forgot the book's number and just started mashing random keys, then got lucky. Like me. :P
05:17:52 Devastator: It's something CSS related.
05:18:03 Devastator: I think it's just anti-frustration measures.
05:19:19 syv: Nah, who'd be too frustrated by not knowing the right phone number in a universe of ayys? There's just a bunch so that you get that feeling of "oh wait I actually did something!"
05:19:46 Devastator: but yeah, it's some CSS issue.
05:20:10 Devastator: hmm, I should edit it so it shows the keypad all the time.
05:30:34 Devastator: ahh, can't get it easily.
05:30:41 syv: Oh hey I solved the sliding block puzzle.
05:31:16 Devastator: I like the skelebones with the popcorn.
05:31:22 Devastator: should send a link to the image to
PW.
05:32:05 Devastator: of course, oddly there's a Khajiit skeleton there, but Katia didn't grab one.
05:33:43 syv: Why shouldn't the Khajiit be there? Skeletons aren't racist, that's a well-known fact.
05:34:13 Devastator: you only summon human skeletons in Oblivion.
05:34:53 syv: Obviously that's because the Imperials only teach human-skeleton summoning spells.
05:35:48 syv: Or their skeleton summon spells only summon metaphysically nearby skeletons, and the vast majority of nonhuman skeletons are in the Black Marsh and Elsweyr.
05:37:15 Devastator: I'd agree with you, but there's an argonian and a Khajiit skeleton right there.
05:37:38 syv: Hence, metaphysically nearby.
05:37:39 Devastator: Hmm... how many total skeletons are there..
05:38:19 Devastator: too many for one per province.
05:38:50 Devastator: Katia is right behind a tall skeleton.
05:38:52 syv: Beast races probably have lower population, so it could be population based.
05:38:57 Devastator: Never get lucky, ever.
05:40:20 Devastator: I now know what my suggestion is going to be.
05:40:51 syv: Is that skeleton taller? It doesn't look taller to me. :\
05:41:16 syv: Also, which one is the Khajiit skeleton? Two rows behind Katia?
05:41:53 Devastator: Yeah, two rows behind Katia.
05:42:01 Devastator: And yes, it's taller. Not vastly taller, but somewhat.
05:42:11 syv: It's weird, the artstyle makes the cat skeleton actually have *thinner* eyes than the humans.
05:44:09 syv: ...I googled for images of skulls to compare, and the first result for "cat skull" is "real domestic cat skull (kitten) for sale".
05:46:20 MidJag: That's fucking adorable.
05:47:50 syv: What am I doing, I have kittens available *right now*! I'm gonna go grab one.
05:52:45 syv: Black, with a white patch on its lower belly.
05:55:48 Devastator: mostly black tuxedo, then.
05:58:10 MidJag: Though it's more like a brindle I guess with a white patch on her chest.
05:59:56 syv: I have a different cat (not the father) who's a black tuxedo. Half maine-coon named Casey.
06:00:54 syv: Super affectionate, and an accomplished slayer of bugs.
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06:09:45 syv: Best cat that's currently alive, yes.
06:12:37 syv:
Dev, in Lufia, what *does* GUT do? Increase IP gained?
06:14:41 Devastator: Nope, that's strictly from HP count.
06:15:25 Devastator: Increased crit rate, increased odds of not dying when reduced to zero HP.
06:17:36 syv: ...You don't always die when reaching 0 HP? Huh.
06:17:52 Devastator: Yeah, it isn't super common, but it happens.
06:18:10 syv: Crits are useful, maybe I should use more GUT stuff. Ehh. I win fights by speedhacking and spamming A, doesn't really matter;
06:18:50 Devastator: I wouldn't worry about it. Fights aren't entirely trivial, but they're not the focus of the game.
06:22:01 Devastator: Also, don't worry about fighting everyone. Levels don't do much for you, your stats are mostly on your gear, so feel free to use arrows and such to skip fights.
06:22:15 syv: The emulator I'm using has a button to make the game run significantly faster, so fights are over in a few seconss if I just keep hitting A. Makes the game go faster.
06:22:42 syv: And yeah, my gear is much better than it should be due to taking stuff from the huge 99 level dungeon.
06:22:58 Devastator: Just use arrows, it's easier than hitting fast-forward.
06:23:49 Devastator: And you can do some of both.
06:24:37 Devastator: Everyone does it, myself included.
06:24:45 Devastator: Just don't skip the bossfights. ;-p
06:25:03 Devastator: (the music for them is too good.)
06:26:46 Devastator: I also recommend taking the final two dungeons slow.
06:26:50 Devastator: You'll know when you're in them.
06:30:13 Devastator: The final dungeon is.. well, I was going to say the most blatant final dungeon of any JRPG, but there's so many blatant final dungeons I'm not sure.
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06:35:19 syv: Going by the standards of this game's translation, I wouldn't be surprised if the Final Dungeon is called "Perishing Maze" or something.
06:37:25 syv: ...Mermaids that live in waist-deep water. Huh.
06:39:20 Devastator: Damn, nobody around so I can talk about the final dungeon without spoiling you. ;-p
06:39:21 syv: And they have stairs. Mermaids. Have stairs.
06:39:50 Devastator: Still better than the BoF fish-men.
06:40:07 Devastator: They're reverse mermaids, upper half fish, lower half man.
06:41:13 syv: At least then stairs would almost make sense.
06:41:27 Devastator: But they go about in underwater caravans.
06:42:32 syv: Though, reverse mermaids do make even less sense than normal mermaids in other ways. How would they swim? Human legs suck at underwater propulsion. But they'd need to swim to breath, because their lungs and mouths are in the fish half...
06:42:52 Devastator: It's okay, deal with it.
06:43:05 syv: Fish people aren't that hard to do well, grah.
06:43:07 Devastator: all your pains go away when you pet the kitty.
06:43:29 Devastator: But yeah, you're on the homestretch.
07:51:00 syv: "We thought we could steal that tank, but it was too heavy for us."
07:53:06 Devastator: The translation is far from ideal, but there are still plenty of good moments.
07:56:00 Devastator: Watch out for the gold golems.
07:59:33 syv: I've been skipping them, so I decided to fight one just because you said that. Don't seem too bad, a little more damaging than the normal mobs, but didn't even hald-kill anyone.
08:03:50 syv: ...Okay second fight they casted spells, yeah that was very close to a TPK.
08:04:17 Devastator: Yeah, that spell is serious business.
08:04:47 Devastator: If you tried to autofight through it it might have been an easy wipe.
08:05:14 Devastator: oh, also, the L key is autofight, if you're interested.
08:12:27 Devastator: I should have told you long ago.
08:12:46 Devastator: you can also do things such as toggle from target one to target all with it.
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08:24:33 Devastator:
syv's playing some Lufia.
08:27:25 syv: The one I got to play with
ER, right before learning that his computer's broken on a fundamental level.
08:29:07 Devastator: I suspect he still has a functioning CPU.
08:30:12 ER: Would probably still need to upgrade my operating system to accomplish that, I'll get back to you on that just as soon as I do it...
08:33:00 syv: Are you going to do it...? Or should I refund the game before the window passes?
08:45:14 Devastator: Nah, I wanted named cameos to die.
08:45:43 Devastator: They all see distressingly fine.
08:47:26 syv: I like stories where random grunts fight the badass heroes and villains, and then kill them without too much difficulty.
08:54:25 Devastator: What was that guy's name?
08:55:53 ER: And the acrobat who also died was named Suuz.
08:56:04 Devastator: Having to look it up doesn't help much. ;-p
08:56:26 ER: I'd have to look up the names of the rest as well
08:58:19 ER: Cat master is now the comic's mascot and killing him would be aweful.
09:05:22 Devastator: "It is a pleasure to be a part of an action so unexpected that laws are likely to be written in response."
09:11:42 syv: Yeah, we know,
Dev's Prequel's RSS feed.
09:12:08 syv: He thinks Katia is a skeleton now. I'm not so sure.
09:12:38 ER: She's summoning a skeleton.
09:15:04 syv: It *would* be an interesting flip of things if she accidentally projected into a skeleton though, and it would keep with Oblivion's starting spells. IIRC you get a weak fireball and a weak heal, but no skelesummon/
09:16:58 Devastator: I only notify you immediately,
syv.
09:17:13 Devastator: Would you like me to continue?
09:17:19 syv: Plus, it could actually END this encounter, with Katia's 'corpse' being thrown into the trash, before reviving when her soul returns, rather than summoning a trash mob which will be detonated within five seconds.
09:17:33 syv: Very much yes, I quite like your notifications.
09:17:33 Devastator: I'd put up a bet she's going the other way.
09:17:50 Devastator: You two think the opposite.
09:18:01 syv: Means I don't have to check Prequel once a week, and don
09:18:13 syv: 't get disappointed almost every time.
09:18:13 Devastator: I usually check it daily myself.
09:19:28 syv: Clearly you are significantly more starved for quality furry comics than I am.
09:19:59 ER: Summon skeleton, skeleton opens cage, Katia beats up Sigrid because Sigrid is a squishy mage? :P
09:20:14 syv: And Katia isn't squishy? :P
09:20:31 ER: She's also a squishy mage, but has claws.
09:21:01 syv: Ah yes, the famed half-inch pocket knives!
09:21:22 Devastator: It was good enough for cat-dude.
09:22:20 Devastator: eh, they wouldn't stay half-inch if she wanted to put in sufficient time and effort. Better that way, though.
09:23:12 syv: Cats don't grow longer claws through training,
Dev. -.-
09:24:04 syv: Khajiit don't either, to my knowledge.
09:24:20 Devastator: It's not exactly training, but careful cultivation. It isn't a good idea, but it should be possible.
09:24:21 syv: Also they totally are, at least sometimes. Alfiq are totes adorbs.
09:25:56 Devastator: It also would be of no benefit in a fight.
09:32:15 Devastator: (to be honest, I am just slightly disappointed that we didn't get to see sabre-katia following vampirism.) ;-p
09:33:34 syv: If she contracted vampirism she'd clearly *not* be The Hero of Kvatch, which would break one of the comic's longest running bits of foreshadowing.
09:33:45 Devastator: I am still not certain that is true either.
09:33:58 syv: Kaz won't do that for anything minor, and it'll probably also signify the comic nearing its end.
09:34:09 ER: (almost like this is some kind a prequel or something!)
09:34:45 syv: I'm ambivalent, it might or might not be true. Now I lean kinda towards not true. But there's no doubt that Kaz has gone to lenfths to keep that implication available.
09:35:51 syv: I'm completely certain she was *originally* supposed to be the Hero of Kvatch, but one of the nice parts of only occasionally writing more of your story is that you can change any background stuff whenever you like, as long as it hasn't been said yet.
09:35:53 Devastator: My thoughts change on the matter, I usually switch between thinking it's one in ten of being her and one in two.
09:36:15 ER: If it is true, at the end of the comic he should totally give you a save file to start Oblivian as Katia, so you can contenue the story yourself. :P
09:36:35 syv: Stopped a little while ago, was in the flying dungeon with the tagalong girl who's also a key.
09:36:49 syv: I was sad that she didn't show up in the list of carried keys.
09:37:58 Devastator: Yeah, you're almost done. Next time you play it you should go through for the end.
09:38:13 Devastator: Hard to say an exact estimate, but no more than two hours.
09:40:00 Devastator: I have good memories of that bit with the tank.
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10:24:27 Radio_Controlled: Hello you invertebrate gerbils.
10:25:34 syv: Oh hey 75% of Roncal Roth is here.
10:25:41 syv: So is
ER the new leader now?
10:26:18 Radio_Controlled: As long as Abu gets to continue shooting fools in the name of democracy, I'm all good.
10:27:18 Radio_Controlled: And 'freedom'. And !capitalism!
10:27:36 syv: The freedom to fly like an eagle.
10:28:04 ER: I'd be a tiny bit sad to not have the oppertunity to have Max come in with greataxe and power within, but I'd also be sad to leave Raven behind.
10:28:12 Radio_Controlled: Besides, like I said before, Abu is pretty dense, he should be good as long as you make the right noises (and it's not like he would detect obvious sarcasm there).
10:29:00 ER: Can I convince him that keeping taxidermied humans as puppets is comministic?
10:29:44 Radio_Controlled: "Yeah, of course we're fighting for freedom, of course!" "yay!" "Dense motherfucker." "What's that last part?" "Uhh, hooray democracy?" "Yaay!"
10:29:44 ER: Will you keep playing if you don't have to be the boss,
syv?
10:30:15 Radio_Controlled: I'm getting a ton of entertainment out of those puppets, so that particular point would be a bit more difficult.
10:30:47 syv: Yeah. Unless that becomes work too.
10:31:39 Radio_Controlled: But if you can come up with a great piece of oration, hey, who knows.
10:33:35 Radio_Controlled: By the way, I sent Leaf a pm over discord to ask if he's still interested in playing with the mech faction.
10:34:21 ER: He's said as such, I believe.
10:35:06 Radio_Controlled: Yeah, he made a comment in that direction, but hasn't really posted since. Wanted to make sure, in case we need to go recruiting another schmuck to round out our team.
10:35:26 syv: Hopefully he is. Otherwise we need to somehow recruit another player to the overpowered faction.
10:35:45 syv: And I have no idea how we'd accomplish that.
10:36:09 Radio_Controlled: And again with the 'overpowered'.
10:36:48 Radio_Controlled: One or two more of those electrobolts and we would have been so much toast.
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10:37:48 Radio_Controlled2: Internet acting up.
10:37:58 Radio_Controlled2: Might have missed a response.
10:39:13 ER: Now, again that was an Elecbolt *burst* with the added damage from having a focus.
10:39:17 Radio_Controlled2: Anyways, if leaf isn't interested we could ask random if he wants to switch sides, that'd also solve the mage waitlist issue.
10:39:39 Radio_Controlled2: What does it being a burst imply exactly?
10:40:09 ER: Magical simple: Fires a bolt of the chosen element.
10:40:09 ER: Magical complex: Fire a burst or spray of bolts.
10:40:38 Radio_Controlled2: So he got two lucky rolls instead of one?
10:41:02 Radio_Controlled2: Fair enough, but the point stands, it wasn't a one sided stomp, even though the terrain was very much in our favor.
10:44:05 syv: Oh, I figured it was a push.
10:44:48 ER: Push would be an angry beam.
10:45:23 Devastator: so push bolt = all dead mechs?
10:45:32 Radio_Controlled2: By the way, speaking of push, I wasn't aware that blinking allows you to take people along with you?
10:45:55 ER: ...Figured it made sense, there.
10:45:56 Radio_Controlled2: Push: Blink to any location you know of.
10:46:09 Radio_Controlled2: Does that also count for the simple push power?
10:46:33 Radio_Controlled2: If so, 1 mage could provide blink services for the whole team.
10:46:48 Radio_Controlled2: Ah, ok then. Maybe add that to the blink description?
10:46:55 ER: Possibly Complex as well? Hmm.
10:47:17 Radio_Controlled2: Magical complex: Blink to locations out of line of sight, or visible but very far away.
10:47:49 syv: If one mage is pushing to provide other teammates with simple-level magic... yeah, that's torally fair.
10:49:56 Devastator: As long as the instant death result on the table remains instant death..
10:50:15 Radio_Controlled2: Should blink get additional perks for the complex action outside of extending range and not needing LoS? I don't really think it does, it's already fairly powerful.
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11:48:59 Oz: It's crowded in this little chat closet.
11:49:16 Oz: Full of idlers. Like having an orgy with the catatonic.
11:49:23 Radio_Controlled2: Yeah, tons of zombos in here.
11:49:34 Radio_Controlled2: Now, the P&P discord, that's where the real action is!
11:50:04 Radio_Controlled2: Explosions, drama, something steamy on the side.
11:50:21 Radio_Controlled2: Anyways, how ya doing?
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12:02:22 Devastator: The Havoc Side of the Force is updating again.
12:02:27 Devastator: after a six-year halt.
12:03:00 Radio_Controlled2: That's quite a hiatus.
12:03:54 Devastator: It's a very well-written and ridiculously absurd fanfic.
12:04:00 Devastator: Now, if you'll excuse me, time to read it.
12:08:11 Radio_Controlled2: Our gang in chalice is under new management.
12:14:32 Radio_Controlled2: Here's the new boss, same as the old boss.
12:15:26 Oz: I do get teh reference though. Mostly
12:20:07 Radio_Controlled2: Hey, be happy Egan wanted to take over the gang.
12:22:00 Oz: Why? It's not my gang. It's you lot's
12:22:53 Radio_Controlled2: Well, if he didn't it'd just be Abu in the gang.
12:23:28 Oz: So it's just the two of you now?
12:23:55 Radio_Controlled2: Perhaps, but Aby doesn't have free hand.
12:24:02 Radio_Controlled2: Count your blessings!
12:26:00 Radio_Controlled2: But seriously, chalice seems to be petering out somewhat?
12:26:06 Radio_Controlled2: Like, in general?
12:26:22 Radio_Controlled2: Might just be my imagination though.
12:26:26 Devastator: Hey, we're posting orders.
12:26:29 Devastator: Get your asses in line.
12:26:35 Oz: we've all posted immediately after last turn
12:26:52 Radio_Controlled2: I thought you needed to wait for some of your players sometimes?
12:26:54 Oz: you guys have had a slow decline thogh. losing
Nikitian and then Pan
12:27:05 Radio_Controlled2: I'll admit I haven't been paying much attention.
12:27:26 Radio_Controlled2: Yeah, not sure where Nik has disappeared to, haven't heard from him in a while.
12:27:38 Oz: we have needed to wait a couple times lately, but like, I've see n your gang act with only 4/5 posting before
12:27:59 Oz: I think I will contest that to
PW
12:28:01 Radio_Controlled2: Pan is just busy IRL, he'll be back to color your day soon(tm).
12:28:17 Oz: I welcome Pan back to the game. He's fun
12:28:44 Oz: And that suggests the game is not petering out. just a shake up in the 'primary' gnag.
12:28:47 Radio_Controlled2: He better, or his arena entrance in cabal is gonna be short lived!
12:28:59 Radio_Controlled2: But ok, fair enough.
12:33:27 Oz: Granted, you are heading into the unreal, so the game might be shortlived anyway. Too bad, I have been having fun experimenting with spells
12:34:20 Radio_Controlled2: I don't think our foray in there will spell the end of days?
12:34:28 Radio_Controlled2: Well, maybe /our/ end of days.
12:34:59 Radio_Controlled2: Which, all things considered, would be enough to invent a new holiday for the occasion.
12:37:28 Oz: oh? will there be confectionary?
12:38:37 Radio_Controlled2: A small gummibear man being swallowed by a peppermint windmill.
12:39:09 Oz: "heeeeelp meeeeeeee" he squeaks in a tiny, high pitched voice
12:39:13 Radio_Controlled2: Bags of candy letters you can use to spell "suck it Abu" a dozen times.
12:39:17 ER: Should be able to gather plenty of magical power by focusing on the unreal, which we can apply elsewhere to steal or buy better equipment, and eventually go break the king's dumb face.
12:42:48 Radio_Controlled2: Small enchanted chocolate Sergeants that scold you as you eat them.
12:43:02 Oz: I put a station in Mun in Kerbal, only to discover after landing that I lacked the necessary docking port to fulfill the contract is was built for.
12:43:31 Radio_Controlled2: Improvise one with duck tape?
12:43:44 Oz: well, I still have half a dozen biomes to explore on the Mun, so no great loss.
12:44:04 Oz: Oh! If only I'd have thoght to give my Kerbals inventory, that might have been possible
12:44:21 Radio_Controlled2: !science! will be had, one way or another.
12:45:03 Oz: In all seriousness, I hope
Sy is doing okay.
12:45:11 ER: Get ye Kerbal Attachment System and weld a new docking port on? :P
12:45:36 Oz: In slightly less seriousness, I'd directly wish him well, but I think he'd take it as an insult or something :/
12:45:58 Oz: I do have Kerbal Attachment system. I just need to get a docking port out there.
12:46:10 Radio_Controlled2: He is, I think he just lost the interest and energy to keep up with the bookkeeping, and that the game never lived up to his Mad Max With Wizard dreams.
12:46:20 Oz: But if I'm going ot take a dcking port, may as well go whole hog and launch a whole new base
12:46:37 Radio_Controlled2: "Be careful what you wish for cause you just might get it: a case study"
12:47:01 Oz: He said some time agao that MMWW was a sort of lost cause. besides, wouldn't that apply more to teh otehr game?
12:47:04 Radio_Controlled2: But he's been active for P&P at least, so he didn't explode or something.
12:47:24 ER: Could launch a whole spare parts station, in case you make similar mistakes in the future or else just decide you want to modify something?
12:47:42 Oz: what was it? not coven ... the
PW game about post apoc magic ...
12:47:42 Radio_Controlled2: Yeah, I suppose. Still enjoying cabal greatly myself.
12:47:59 Radio_Controlled2: Not interested in getting (back?) into cabal,
oz?
12:48:23 Radio_Controlled2: It's basically just a freeroam wizard game now, just a whole world for you to play in.
12:48:34 Oz: Nah, I never glommed onto Cabal, and every time I've heard about what's been going on in it, I just wasn't moved to join
12:49:17 Radio_Controlled2: Too bad, but understandable.
12:49:19 Oz: I don't know. Sounds okay, but I played Infinite Heavens, and this sounds a little to like that
12:49:31 Radio_Controlled2: Too freeroam?
12:49:44 Oz: Minus the PvP aspect, which isn't really a big thing so far
12:49:57 Radio_Controlled2: Different strokes for different folks I guess.
12:50:30 ER: Ah, Infinite Heavens was fun.
12:50:31 Radio_Controlled2: Hmm. We'll be putting pancaek into the arena in cabal soon. Maybe you could get
pw to let you play a cameo as some sort of fearsome monster?
12:50:55 ER: I should try running a game with freeform morphology some time
12:51:19 Radio_Controlled2: Not gonna be for the next couple turns, mind, pan's still in exams, but soonish.
12:51:46 Radio_Controlled2: It's something you can consider, if not I'm sure
pw will have no problem killing us himself.
12:52:22 Oz: Joining a
PW game as teh antagonist ... I'd like that
12:58:03 Oz: Infinite Heavens WAS fun. I kind a feel like I broke it a bit though.
12:58:18 ER: Which character were you, again?
12:58:52 Oz: By the end I could summon stuff.
12:59:42 ER: I remember that I saw the thread go up but wasn't at home, so I waited until I got home so I wouldn't have to write a sheet on my phone but by the time I did all the slots were taken...
12:59:48 Oz: But it was in arguing about our course of action during the Hall of the Mountain King htat i feel I pushed us in the wrong direction. Then teh group split up nad splitting a party is never a good thing.
13:00:23 Radio_Controlled2: It got you a sweet monniker at least.
13:00:25 Oz: I'm surprised I got in at all, having joined as late as I did. lot of waitlisters dropped out I think
13:01:05 ER: Playing as a mute singing orb is pretty great, though.
13:01:30 Radio_Controlled2: Sooo... just an orb then?
13:02:55 ER: Like the main character in Transistor, I think.
13:03:17 ER: I can't remember if that was actually my inspiration, but it was a bit like that.
13:03:28 Oz: Well, that's almost a cheat thoguh, since the sword does enough talking for the two of them
13:04:09 Radio_Controlled2: Wait and now there's a sword involved?
13:04:41 ER: She's got a talking sword that contains the soul of her boyfriend or something.
13:04:48 Radio_Controlled2: Talking swords being the most natural thing ever, of course.
13:04:59 ER: And she's a singer whose voice was stolen.
13:06:54 Oz: The main character was a famous singer, the other main character was some kind of cyberpunk samurai who was sent to steal her voice, but protected her instead
13:07:35 Oz: teh sword is some kind of technosword with an AI type thingy, and the guy's personality got transferred into it when he was stabbed by it
13:08:13 ER: Together, they... hit robots with a sword a bunch.
13:08:13 Oz: they go around collecting something like computer chips containing personalities of otehr people in this cyberworld
13:08:31 Radio_Controlled2: That sounds pretty neat.
13:08:46 ER: I never actually beat it...
13:08:48 Oz: It's decent. I haven't played in a while, and haven't really gotten very far
13:09:11 Oz: the guy's half sentence hints and almost conversation can be a bit draining though.
13:11:01 Radio_Controlled2: Right, I remember you got a bit annoyed at my faux-Shakespeare Ye oldy timey speak.
13:13:49 Oz: This is more the whole "I'm going to keep hinting at plot points without actually ever telling you anything" and "I'm going to speak haltingly and in broken sentences" annoyance.
13:14:20 Radio_Controlled2: I think you did, in Dig iirc?
13:14:43 Radio_Controlled2: My esoteric Diver Speak did get ridiculous, I'll adimt.
13:15:04 ER: the best part is that if you don't actually tell the reader what the plot is, *you don't even have to know, yourself*!
13:15:06 Radio_Controlled2: Died too young.
13:15:21 Oz: I'm not always as easygoing as I want to be.
13:15:28 Radio_Controlled2: The Lost strategy of writing plot, I see.
13:16:24 ER: It's not easy being as calm & collected as me~
13:16:47 Oz: I tried to change characters to a diver, and
PW basically said "no that's too OP and we already have two."
13:17:06 Oz: But it did have some interesting realms
13:17:16 Radio_Controlled2: Says the person who just shouted at pool ol' Abu in the biggest letters ever.
13:17:21 Oz: I think realms are
PW's strong point. Balance is his weak point
13:17:23 Radio_Controlled2: Yeah, the system wasn't ideal.
13:17:42 Radio_Controlled2: But the worldbuilding and progression possibilities on the other hand.
13:17:54 Oz:
PW does generate some interesting locations, creatures, and lore.
13:18:13 Radio_Controlled2: Those really seemed like they could keep a long game going.
13:19:13 Oz: They are a pretty solid place to start.
13:19:39 Oz: you need to be able to provide interesting challenges that are not ridiculous, consistently over time, too.
13:19:47 Radio_Controlled2: And right now you guys are feeling my pain through the exploration game.
13:20:25 Oz:
PW referenced that. I have no idea what you are talking about htough
13:21:03 ER: I was /perfectly/ calm while yelling at Abu. :p
13:21:35 Radio_Controlled2: The pain that a game you like might be ending because other people are losing interest.
13:21:42 ER: I just figure that the best method of herding cats in that sort of game is to be loud.
13:23:52 Oz: I've already experienced that with Oro
13:23:52 Radio_Controlled2: It's certainly entertaining.
13:24:03 Oz: and at least one of
PW's test games after that
13:24:11 Radio_Controlled2: The demon circle one?
13:24:28 Oz: that one too, yes. but there was one before that as well.
13:25:04 Radio_Controlled2: All the lost test games are starting to melt together in
Oz' head.
13:25:27 Radio_Controlled2: In due time, they will crystallize into the most brilliant forum game ever to grace this world.
13:25:33 Radio_Controlled2: Well, that or endless nightmares.
13:26:08 Oz: Grunts was surprisingly popular
13:26:18 Oz: but man, was it a lot of work
13:26:29 Oz: I could have run it thogh, had i not been invested in OL
13:26:47 Radio_Controlled2: How's OL doing these days?
13:27:11 Radio_Controlled2: It had a good run.
13:27:27 Oz: the last five characters, not counting Pan's guy, are in some real trouble not too far from the end objective of their current mission
13:27:43 Oz: It had a beeter run than I expected.
13:27:57 Oz: the places it broke were unexpected too, though.
13:28:18 Oz: I learned a bit about my own GM'ing, and my own flaws.
13:32:19 Oz: well, this mission will have real consequences for the Legion, whether the game continues or not.
13:32:48 Radio_Controlled2: No more Pizza Tuesdays?
13:33:23 ER: When this mission finishes and it's still running, maybe I should break out that sparrow-girl character I had.
13:42:30 Oz: Radio, Pizza Tuesdays are a fundamental element of the Cosmos.
13:43:07 Oz: I'll keep OL running if there's enough interest.
13:43:19 Oz: I'm thinking of redoing the stat stuff though
13:44:04 Oz: make it a bit more clear, and enforce it a little more.
13:44:33 Oz: hmm, and maybe introduce tempdeath. That seemed to go over well in Einsteinian Roullette
13:44:58 Oz: Maybe require characters to buy their equipment, including the temp death stones, or whatever I sue for that
13:45:15 Radio_Controlled2: Make sure you brief
Devastator thoroughly when you add tempdeath.
13:45:22 Radio_Controlled2: And tape the reaction if you can!
13:46:59 Oz: I don't have time to listen to hour long monologues on the use, placement, effects, and gameplay value of 1-UPs
13:48:44 Radio_Controlled2: Listening to
Dev ranting is a bit like community service.
13:48:48 Oz:
ER, you should reconsider your action in 888th, based on
Sy's action
13:49:12 Oz: He is remarkably upbeat and optimistic about Chalice
13:49:56 Radio_Controlled2: Eager wizard beaver.
13:53:07 Oz: Alright, I'm off. Been nice chatting, gang!
13:53:27 Radio_Controlled2: Late- dangit.
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23:13:12 Devastator: I built a vehicle at 90% off of where it should be.
23:15:48 Devastator: Yeah. I didn't know you need to construct them as if they were always heading north.
23:51:28 ER: “heteropaternal superfecundation”
23:53:16 ER: Would have been more entertaining if they were identical twins, 0/10
23:54:17 Devastator: You can't have heteropaternal superfecundation and identical twins unless there are at least three babies.
23:55:51 ER: obviously the sperm somehow managed to merge with each other.
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