01:24:54 Devastator: (Trence doesn't have fire form.)
01:49:13 Devastator: Could have went for red clothing way back at the beginning.
01:49:22 Devastator: then he woulda been fire dragon.
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03:22:01 Devastator: Hey, there was an AC VI run at AGDQ.
03:22:48 Devastator: I'm still amazed that series made it because the people who did it had another extremely successful series that kept them going.
03:23:42 Egan: I mean, AC was a very prolific series which is what FS were known for before the whole demon's souls tangent
03:23:52 Egan: so it makes sense to bring it back eventually
03:25:24 Devastator: Yeah, but I've played the early games.
03:25:27 Devastator: Controls from hell.
03:25:38 Devastator: Really, really bad control schemes.
03:26:07 Egan: nobody knew how to map controls in PS1 days
03:26:26 Egan: the early PS2 ones are maybe less permissible
03:36:38 Devastator: The best controls of that era was Mario 64.
03:36:54 Devastator: that controller had a shitty button layout, but the best thumbstick.
03:37:20 Egan: I don't know if you can give awards to anything on the N64, considering that the controller shape is already an fail
03:37:40 Devastator: Nah, the thumbstick is really, really good.
03:37:56 Egan: and it's IN THE MIDDLE OF THREE GRIPS
03:38:17 Devastator: you only use two of those at a time.
03:38:18 Egan: and you're supposed to control the camera with those little yellow buttons >:|
03:38:30 Devastator: The buttons were poor, yes.
03:38:47 Devastator: but I didn't defend them. Just the absurdly good thumbstick.
03:39:04 Devastator: you know, I'm amused, really. The best Smash Brothers ended up being the gamecube one, the one on the poorest selling system.
03:39:05 Egan: so bad that even when they turned it into a stick in the next generation, it was a tiny sucky stick
03:39:19 Devastator: Cube stick was fine too.
03:39:33 Devastator: but yeah, that was silly.
03:39:57 Devastator: that is, the main stick.
03:40:13 Egan: melee is mostly beloved for all the unintentional "features" introduced by the game being underbaked
03:40:38 Devastator: Nah, it was really, really solid.
03:40:58 Devastator: It did have a lot of stuff like that, yeah. But the basics were very sound.
03:42:10 Devastator: I played the hell out of it. Never anywhere near good enough to sniff competitive melee, but I wasn't bad.
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03:46:08 Devastator: That does go away when you get used to it.
03:46:11 Devastator: but the skillcap remains.
03:47:31 Devastator: the new Automation update has a clay car model before you choose the body panel type.
04:13:20 Devastator: also, apparently I need to relearn how to make a good car in the game, like I do every major update.
04:19:48 Devastator: god, though, custom gearboxes are going to be NICE. Very necessary.
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08:42:20 Devastator: I had to get up early.
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