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02:44:52 MJ: Tired, stressed, and overdid it at the gym.
02:45:12 Devastator: I found out today how much soul is in Super Famicom Advance Wars.
02:45:21 Devastator: well, couple days ago.
02:47:17 Devastator: The animations and the awesome music.
02:47:19 Devastator: just watch for a bit.
02:47:51 MJ: I do like the reinforment animaiton
02:48:43 Devastator: ..I don't think there's a reinforcement animation.
02:48:52 Devastator: although there are animations for loading and unloading vehicles!
02:49:07 MJ: I meant the one where the person jumps on the rope while taing the city
02:49:10 Devastator: (There's no aircraft on this map, but the transport copters have infantry jump up to them and hold onto the skids._
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03:22:05 syv: Want to play AW tonight
Dev?
03:22:11 syv: Unless
MJ actually has time!
03:22:20 syv: Finally getting over my cold
03:22:29 Devastator: sorry for the travel cold.
03:22:33 Devastator: but that's the bane of the airplane.
03:22:50 syv: Eh, no worry. I'm lucky it didn't happen on the flight up there. >.>
03:25:59 Devastator: lemme get an account together.
03:27:35 MJ: You know what's kinda crazy, Dave Grohl went from being the drummer of Nirvana to being the lead singer and guitarist of the foo fighters
03:27:51 MJ: And drummer for queens of the stone age
03:28:26 Devastator: That's just how drummers work.
03:28:41 syv: QOTSA has a guy from Nirvana and Foo Fighters?
03:28:59 MJ: Yeah, Dave Grohl is the drummer for like their best albums
03:29:31 Devastator: drummers are the wizards among musicians.
03:29:38 Devastator: they're everywhere and secretly rule the world.
03:29:49 Devastator: there's also both more and fewer of them than you expect.
03:31:05 Devastator: you can always find another drummer, but the same ones always keep turning up.
03:31:24 Devastator: Also, nobody is just a drummer.
03:31:28 Devastator: all drummers have secret lives.
03:31:32 Devastator: and special abilities.
03:36:38 MJ: Alright, well I'm going to bed
03:40:26 Devastator: would you like to start one or should I?
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03:49:23 Devastator: called Degeneracy with a pass of bay12
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03:54:11 Devastator: yeah, I think I missed a button.
03:55:46 syv: Very neutral CO buff, he just repairs
03:57:34 Devastator: oh, there's a button for that.
03:58:11 syv: Feels good that we're both confused on how this site works~
04:31:25 Devastator: someone's worried about that property.
04:32:35 syv: You've held an income advantage the entire game ;P
04:34:07 Devastator: and I mean to keep it!
04:42:52 syv: "where the fuck did tnat tank come fro--oh it's my tank"
04:44:15 Devastator: I'd like a bonus tank, yes. ;-p
04:47:40 Devastator: welp, go wipe me out.
04:48:13 Devastator: I think you got another three kills there.
04:50:01 syv: Uhhhh wasn't that too early
04:50:06 syv: You could do some trades then heal
04:51:17 Devastator: I have no meaningful hits.
04:51:49 Devastator: and if I leave it full for a turn I'll lose.
04:52:19 syv: Still have a 3k econ lead >.>
04:52:45 Devastator: yeah, and I'm down 15 turns of that on the field.
04:52:48 Devastator: nah, I think I've lost it.
04:53:38 syv: You've got a huge lead over there
04:54:05 Devastator: you have a tank, a b-copter, two mechs and two infantry.
04:54:12 Devastator: I have one arty, one tank, one inf, and an AA.
04:54:15 Devastator: that's not a huge lead.
04:54:39 syv: I have one copter and one tank
04:55:12 Devastator: now I have a lead over there.
04:55:27 syv: I don't see why you wouldn't be able to stalemate me right now, with your econ lead
04:56:21 Devastator: because I have one base?
04:58:55 Devastator: yeah, I don't see how I can defend those two cities. I'll need to take another one on the left.
05:05:27 Devastator: nah. If I could shove that bomber in there, that would hurt.
05:05:52 syv: I think you would've been better off with tanks
05:06:28 Devastator: I figured I needed an extra hitter.
05:06:32 Devastator: and if it collapses, I can run it.
05:06:46 Devastator: I do think you have me, though.
05:09:47 syv: Feels a little bad that I have a lead only because I planned better for the CO power
05:10:10 Devastator: Pfft, I've made so many misplays.
05:10:15 Devastator: that AA shouldn't be on the map edge.
05:10:46 Devastator: I'll go one more turn, but it's over.
05:11:36 syv: ...Did I not move that APC?
05:15:06 Devastator: nah, not so well. That was winnable, I got out of the opener fine.
05:15:09 syv: I still think that could've been turned around, but yeah it was a longshot.
05:15:11 Devastator: but was too agressive and messed up.
05:15:31 Devastator: nah, it was lost. You would have downed the bomber and sitting back I'd have lost the right very early.
05:15:38 syv: Hehe, yeah kinda. I played tood defensive early on, and you played into it.
05:16:03 Devastator: nah, you just know my love of attack attack attack.
05:16:30 syv: I could attack three cities, but didn't really have a solid hook on any of them. Too many injured infantry and not enough support. I would've gotten one or two, but you could've stopped at least one, probably two.
05:16:50 Devastator: you would have gotten all three.
05:17:10 syv: And you had a very very strong front on the left, towards my AP, and I don't really know what I could have done about that. I had the same issue you had there, of only one base, and you had AA if I used my AP.
05:17:25 Devastator: that's not strong. I would have gotten the one, but that's it.
05:17:37 Devastator: you would have gotten the one next to it back.
05:17:57 Devastator: and you'd have gotten all three cities you were aimed at to the right, even though I would have held the bomber back had I not planned to resign.
05:18:49 Devastator: with two arties and a bunch of mech, two tanks wouldn't have done squat.
05:19:19 Devastator: nah, thanks for the game, but you beat me. Messed up too much.
05:19:28 syv: Clearly I need to play worse next time we do this. ;P
05:19:38 syv: It's not fun losing twice in a row
05:20:01 Devastator: sure, lets go again in a bit.
05:20:03 syv: Or find a triple map and have Egan join
05:20:20 Devastator: worked very hard today.
05:21:09 Devastator: yesterday a lot of stuff broke.
05:21:12 Devastator: today a lot of stuff was broke.
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05:25:49 Devastator: but still a lot of work.
05:27:10 Devastator: probably no game tomorrow, either. I want to update my games.
05:27:51 syv: Thanks for playing AWBW despite being tired, was fun.
05:28:04 Devastator: you tired or me tired?
05:28:34 syv: That game was closer than the first one, IIRC last time I started with and kept a lead.
05:28:54 syv: I wonder if there's a better neutral CO with no magic powers.
05:29:02 Devastator: we can turn them off.
05:29:14 Devastator: they are an option.
05:29:37 syv: Should try that next time.
05:31:09 Devastator: tbh, you had a bunch of kills during the power that I thought you'd be short of.
05:32:30 syv: Yeah, the power gives +1 move
05:32:38 Devastator: I meant the damage.
05:32:46 Devastator: like a 6 on grass with an 8 HP infantry.
05:32:56 syv: +2 heal at level 1, +5 heal and +1 move at level 2
05:33:20 Devastator: nah, I should have done one or two fewer battles the turn before.
05:33:28 Devastator: so you'd get your power much closer to the end of the turn.
05:33:31 syv: The damage randomization was a thing too, yeah. I thought AW was deterministic!
05:33:44 syv: That's why I ran an infantry into a 1 HP tank
05:34:34 Devastator: you also have 1-100 HP, not 1-10
05:36:21 Devastator: 1-10 is 1, 11-20 is 2, etc.
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05:41:55 Devastator: yeah, if you bounce an infantry off a 1 HP tank, the next infantry is far more likely to do the kill.
05:42:20 syv: That does explain damage expression being in percent. And why something like 67% damage can kill a 7 HP unit.
05:43:53 Devastator: I think in the GBA games 67% is a minimum.
05:44:00 Devastator: you do 67% plus the bonus random damage.
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05:48:49 syv: The foolish desire to make a AW like with nyafor units
05:49:08 syv: The BR game is hard because I am too perfectionistic
05:49:20 syv: And coding ammunition random generation is really hard
05:49:27 Devastator: yes, too perfectionistic.
05:49:29 syv: Well, compared to everything else
05:49:35 Devastator: hmm, maybe I should have alida as an item in the new game.
05:49:45 Devastator: it's a wolf, but until it rolls a 1, it's bigger every turn. ;-p
05:50:23 Devastator: got lots of good stuff. I'll work the list into categories tomorrow.
05:50:54 syv: And it can become a wolfpack, gets angrier and stronger when hurt, and if you dismember it the dismembered parts just become ghosty?
05:51:21 syv: Painless level three was a good idea
05:54:44 Devastator: it's good, but there were a lot of mooks in that last fight. Resounding Echos would have given an AoE capability.
05:55:31 syv: RE was a different class, specialized in AoEs ;P
05:55:51 syv: But nah, not saying it was good, bravery in general is kinda double edged
05:56:01 Devastator: nah, if I had a MG summon it wouldn't be Alida.
05:56:13 Devastator: It'd be themed related to the area.
05:58:18 Devastator: well, the other one, the beacon of hope then.
05:58:33 Devastator: hmm, maybe I should use that as the name for the item.
06:00:26 syv: It's suitably magical girly
06:00:42 syv: Should also work in "torrents of ardent despair" somewhere
06:00:51 Devastator: wasn't it 'ardent pathos?'
06:01:22 Devastator: right, I'm also going to have a mechanic where you get to add items from whatever world you visited.
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06:17:36 syv: Yeah, you mentioned the armory expansion mechanic, I like it
06:17:48 syv: Would the players all vote for what item it is?
06:18:18 syv: Also. In the AW game you made a much better choice going with tanks early.
06:18:36 syv: I'm not certain the APC was a bad call for me, but the recon certainly was
06:19:54 syv: Yeah, all it did was deal 5 damage to infantry, and absorb two tank hits. Awful.
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06:30:54 Devastator: I should go over the game and look at what I need to do to win.
06:31:03 Devastator: but I think I'd rather play by the seat of my pants instead.
06:45:08 syv: It's fun to have some unpredictability
06:45:17 syv: Next time I'd like an island map
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07:34:33 Devastator: os;amd ,admess. eh?
07:34:38 Devastator: island madness, eh?
08:02:13 Devastator: also, thanks to the supply truck animations, infantry 'fuel' is food.
08:02:28 Devastator: the supply truck throws a giant loaf of bread into the infantry's mouth.
08:03:00 syv: Though I think in the AW games I played, the Black Hole faction was supposed to use robotic infantry?
08:03:09 syv: Might be confusing that with something else
08:09:12 Devastator: well, that's gonna pay off later.
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08:09:30 Devastator: "I want to buy another rocket and another supply vehicle."
08:09:35 Devastator: buys a rocket and a recon.
08:09:41 Devastator: well, lets see how long it is until he notices.
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