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03:08:52 Devastator: there's yer armour thickness testing.
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03:10:53 Devastator: I just like the name.
03:12:03 Devastator: that name comes pretty close to maximum victorianism.
03:16:13 ER: what was happening in Bird again?
03:17:28 Devastator: I think I'm fighting with the lovely baby metal hawk body. Looking to take some flame zombie limb.
03:18:59 Devastator: dunno what the fey queen is up to.
03:19:02 Devastator: presumbably something magic.
03:24:44 Devastator: yeah. Dunno if I should try to eat it again. ;-p
03:32:49 Devastator: or is it Ghost/Flying?
03:33:36 ER: moldbin is just ghost type I think
03:33:47 ER: skyhawks are totally steel/flying
03:34:14 MidJag: Also it's kinda funny that pokemon is like as old as I am and is still like ridicuouslly popular
03:34:29 ER: or wait, there's also dark type. I dunno what tends to have that so I'm saying undead are ghost type :p
03:34:46 Devastator: unfortunately steel's weak to fire. :-(
03:38:55 MidJag: Dark types are always weird
03:39:29 MidJag: Like if it's kinda spooky but not like undead it's a dark type
03:39:39 MidJag: At least with most of the pokemon games I've played
03:39:47 MidJag: I dunno what the new ones are like
03:40:20 ER: and one of the eevees goes dark right? and is like... just a darker eevee?
03:41:39 MidJag: It's like all black with some yellow circles
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03:44:00 Devastator: (insert pedobear joke)
03:46:36 syv: Dark Eevee is Umbreon, forming a pair with Espeon, psychic Eevee. Two of my favorites, partly because of Colosseum, which gave you both as starters (and had only double battles throughout the entire game).
03:47:24 Devastator: can finish terranigma tonight, maybe.
03:47:25 syv: Dark is kinda notable because there's a little triangle of effectiveness, with Dark beating Fighting beating Psychic beating Dark
03:47:45 syv: ...And yes, that looks clearly inspired by KISS.
03:49:18 ER: I guess dark is just edginess aspect? ;p
03:49:32 MidJag: Like it's kinda great, but I have so many questions why it exsists.
03:49:48 Devastator: Aren't there only 8 types? ;-p
03:49:57 Devastator: (basically just add them, and then, welp.)
03:50:48 MidJag: I think they added like fairy type now
03:54:05 Devastator: Aight, starting it now.
03:57:59 Devastator: god, that was more of a pain than it should be.
04:00:49 ER: love the way arc says "sure take it, I'm generous. :)"
04:02:32 ER: so do you actually get good things for doing all of this
04:03:14 MidJag: That is the real quesiton
04:04:12 syv: Yeah, fairy was added for balance reasons
04:04:19 syv: I think it's anti-dragon? I forget
04:05:03 ER: I'm busy! saving the world and stuff.
04:05:56 ER: I don't remember what happened last cutscene but I do remember it presumably being something arc might wanna deal with :p
04:11:31 MidJag: Why is the bird in bird jail?
04:13:07 MidJag: The Eric Andre show has ruined my ability to not laugh when I hear the word bird said without context
04:14:19 MidJag: So is there some bird in Japan that looks like the orange ones?
04:14:29 MidJag: Because that's also a pokemon that looks like that
04:16:32 ER: I was just saying bird up as a phrase
04:17:37 ER: there better not be something better than the heropike\
04:22:05 ER: how does arc operate an entire sail ship my himself anyways.
04:22:44 ER: I didn't ask how he carried it because of the box obviously
04:22:53 ER: maybe yomi is a good sailer
04:23:52 MidJag: Man this game has about as strange of a plot as Bullit
04:24:06 MidJag: Which has the most anticlimatic ending I've ever seen
04:25:11 MidJag: Althought cool thing in Bullit I watched it with my dad and turns out they had actual scrub nurses and doctors during the surgery scenes.
04:25:50 ER: it is confusing in a lovely way how arc arrives on a barren earth, does some stuff to make life come back, and then wakes up like a year later to find a bunch of different human settlements have just popped up? with wildly different tech levels?
04:26:19 ER: also how america has neotokyo style archetecture now
04:27:56 MidJag: Yeah, like the techs and cultures kinda just shit dn change
04:33:31 MidJag: We canz eat many things
04:38:23 ER: arc breaks into an animal's home and eats their food
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04:51:12 MidJag: So we've upgraded all the towns?
04:53:48 MidJag: heh, grabbed by giant claw. Ow
04:54:23 MidJag: Skateboard kid ha proven wayy more useful then I expected
04:59:14 ER: very useful healing spear which just doesn't work in the real world
05:15:01 MidJag: Ah nice, well happpy early birthday
05:16:25 MidJag: But yes also the fools one
05:17:06 MidJag: Wait why did he get killed and the heroes were fine despite being like about the same distance?
05:18:11 MidJag: You ever read eight bit theater
dev?
05:18:49 MidJag: I know that, but it's still weird
05:20:00 MidJag: Or maybe he parachuted from a newly invented plane?
05:21:04 MidJag: On the other hand with the way time works here maybe they died of old age
05:22:30 MidJag: It's kinda intresting how you use less fantastical methods of trasnport the longer the game goes one
05:23:19 ER: this game sure is an enigma about terra
05:29:42 MidJag: I half expected him to say he didn't read
05:29:57 MidJag: But then I reebred he sleeps all the time
05:30:20 ER: wait if he can't read how does he save using a book
05:30:53 ER: oh so arc can buy suits but not a dress I see how it is
05:32:59 MidJag: To be Fair I don't think there would be many dresses that would fit me. :P
05:34:41 ER: must be a frustrating 100% speedrun
05:36:14 ER: gotta get back, back to the past
05:38:37 ER: fuck, the chickens were fake!?
05:38:54 MidJag: So wait did the world end again?
05:39:06 MidJag: Why are we back in the underworld?
05:39:18 ER: and they waited this long to bring out this song
05:39:35 MidJag: Ah okay I think I follow
05:40:31 MidJag: They do give a lot of gold
05:40:47 MidJag: Also it's weird that gold is what they give you but the currency is gems
05:42:41 MidJag: So what is Ark's job normally if there exsists a light side version of Arks's job?
05:44:12 MidJag: Okay that's pretty cool
05:44:45 MidJag: So do we fihgt normal Gaia after this as well? Or just Dark gaisaa
05:45:22 ER: is it even a real RPG if we don't kill all the gods
05:48:48 MidJag: I like how the magi rocks are evil now
05:50:17 MidJag: Always a phase 2 with bosses
05:50:43 MidJag: Wait are you using to block?
05:50:46 ER: there's a block in this game!?
05:51:12 MidJag: I don't think I've ever seen you use it
05:51:38 MidJag: I thought that was a cross thing for some reason
05:51:57 ER: would probably be useful against the mecha if you weren't using dash attack iframes
05:53:28 ER: good thing the box still works in whatever place this is
05:53:46 MidJag: I do like the block thing
05:57:20 MidJag: This is gonna be a long battle
05:57:39 MidJag: Wow, that is pretty lame
05:57:47 MidJag: Damn bosses being dicks
05:57:59 ER: he'd be doing a lot better if he just kept using the laser and never floated close to your platform
05:58:25 ER: because this is a game and not an anime, so the protag cannot jump good
06:01:04 MidJag: I dunno Arks downwards jump is pretty good
06:08:16 MidJag: This is quite the battle
06:08:26 MidJag: Why are you taking zero daage now?
06:14:23 ER: can't believe that
dev is savescumming like this, entire run invalidated for speedruns~
06:15:36 MidJag: How close are you to killing it?
06:17:52 ER: do you get autoheals if you equip the crystal spear?
06:18:46 ER: I can't see what I'm typing now
06:21:40 ER: nah she's staying off the keyboard
06:24:56 ER: can you tell the dark god to give it up now
06:28:56 MidJag: That was quite the fight
06:31:26 ER: turns out living in the dark world sucks
06:33:12 MidJag: When did we meet mermaids?
06:34:11 MidJag: So we're just Hades now?
06:35:18 MidJag: Man that kinda sucks, we do all that shit and get dissolved for it
06:35:18 ER: that day better last forever >:(
06:37:06 ER: so is this underworld actually like hades? do people wind up here when they die?
06:37:39 MidJag: So everyone else dissolves when we dissolve?
06:41:12 MidJag: So how do we end the day?
06:43:33 MidJag: Aww, this is very bittersweet.
06:45:40 MidJag: Thanks for showing me this
dev
06:46:28 MidJag: I like it, it's just a very intresting concept of starti.
06:46:48 ER: that's because the cat is now in front of my leyboard rather than the screen
06:46:48 MidJag: And an intresting implementation
06:48:14 MidJag: I guess the world is getting older
06:49:34 ER: and then lavos shows up and blows it all up
06:50:08 ER: another snes jrpg which I've played but never got to the end of :p
06:51:13 MidJag: Oh huh, I guess it's not over
06:51:53 ER: bumping sounds from off screen and then someone shouts coming!
06:52:28 Devastator: that's.. terranigma.
06:52:36 Devastator: if you play it, don't try to fight the end boss at such a low level. ;-p
06:52:57 Devastator: Dunno if I'll do another.
06:53:16 Devastator: Lufia II's puzzle heavy.
06:53:23 Devastator: Chrono Trigger everyone knows about.
06:53:34 MidJag: What about that one you were playing?
06:53:43 MidJag: The one with the side scrolling real time one?
06:53:44 Devastator: Tales of Phantasia?
06:53:55 Devastator: I could do the ending there, but there's a LOT of sidequesting to go before the final dungeon.
06:54:07 MidJag: I thought you were at like the end boss
06:54:10 Devastator: There's a gatekeeper boss at the entrance.
06:54:13 Devastator: then the final dungeon.
06:54:22 Devastator: Can't scratch the gatekeeper boss.
06:54:31 Devastator: ..so would do the bonus dungeon, but that's a hell of a slog.
06:55:17 Devastator: like two hours of hard bonus dungeon.
06:55:51 Devastator: yeah, it's a rough trip.
06:56:02 Devastator: at the bottom is the excaliber, which you can use to beat up the gatekeeper boss.
06:56:19 Devastator: You -can- beat the gatekeeper boss with shenanigans, and I might do that instead. Don't know.
06:56:30 Devastator: after grinding out a half-dozen levels.
06:57:21 Devastator: will have to use bow guy, heh.
06:57:32 Devastator: because he's the only char who hits hard enough to hurt the gatekeeper.
07:00:47 MidJag: Well I should go to bed
07:03:07 Devastator: guess I will finish ToP sometime.
07:03:10 Devastator: although maybe show better.
07:04:04 Devastator: and floor computer.
07:13:52 ER: you can see in the shot the table which I could put my computer on if I were less lazy
07:33:17 Devastator: yes, the Zue theme.
07:43:21 ER: cat walked in and pet her face by my hand, I feel something wet. Wave her away and see she has a mouse. couple drops of blood on my hand. >.<
08:06:17 Devastator: well, that's what cats do.
08:06:33 Devastator: also, did a quick test. Level 30 would have meant 9-13 damage per hit, easy bossfight. ;-p
08:06:44 Devastator: 31 would probably be double that, which would make it both easy and quick.
08:09:22 Devastator: at 32 you could probably first-try the boss without worry, since the damage taken goes down quite a bit as well.
08:11:53 ER: also makes me wonder why they bothered putting in a level cap. just so that you can't accidentially break it? :p
08:12:15 Devastator: that might be. Can't break the formula.
08:12:32 Devastator: ..and grinding in Star Blazer was like meditation.
08:13:53 Devastator: that game had a similarly absurd level cap. Each level you'd get 2 more max HP and do one more damage or take one less.
08:14:27 Devastator: minimum damage was something like 0.5/hit, which meant like an 80-hit bossfight if you were too far behind.
08:14:58 Devastator: well, no, I think they used HP over the visible limit.. like you could, if you ground your way up. The colour of your HP bar would change with more HP over the visible amount.
08:18:38 Devastator: I forget what level you'd finish the game at.. and 90% of all enemies spawn up to a limited amount, and then you kill the spawner, so you can make a very accurate assessment of what level the character should be.
08:18:47 Devastator: but you could level up like 40 more times.
08:20:41 ER: hm yup I gotta save this soundtrack :p
08:31:27 Devastator: also flew into Safarium after the zoo opened, to see if the animals were gone.
08:31:33 Devastator: Even the bird was, so it was a one-way trip.
09:21:42 ER: I probably should have counted up that the imp would die to a normal attack and ended the combat already but hopefully that'll come with practice~
09:37:28 Devastator: yeah, you got real math to deal with.
09:41:28 ER: which is bigger, 4*2 or 6? :p
09:43:26 ER: but the 6 is right there in the notes
09:43:52 Devastator: or is it automatic?
09:45:23 ER: any attribute, which are the things on the character sheet which are not skills :p
09:46:01 ER: HP, AP, Armor, Damage, Meter, or get a new move
09:46:36 ER: I don't have a list of available moves yet
09:52:57 Devastator: armour is tempting.
09:54:47 ER: it is a perk of being a beast, humans don't get any of that except from items ;p
09:54:59 Devastator: will we get to switch at some point?
09:55:17 Devastator: ..yes, but the downside is no clothing. ;-p
09:58:22 ER: but someone blew up luna which is how that would usually happen~
10:05:08 Devastator: (Ahh, just too much in the dark fumbling for me. ;-p)
10:16:45 ER: well, no need to level up immediately or anything
10:22:30 Devastator: Yeah, I like armour but there's lots of options.
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