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08:57:42 Devastator: someone leaked a russian casulty report. Not sure if it's real, but it's a very convincing number and breakdown.
08:58:36 Devastator: 9800 and change dead, 16150 wounded, not counting DNR/LNR.
08:59:35 Devastator: No, but it's 1.5 infantry divisions.
08:59:46 Devastator: looks like they're gonna send in the belarusians eventually.
09:00:47 Devastator: 1.5 american divisions.
09:01:20 syv: What percentage of a military's soldiers actually see combat? Trivially googling, Russia has about a million active duty soldiers.
09:01:24 Devastator: for russia, it's about 1/6 of the entire hitting force.
09:01:30 Devastator: This is really pushing it.
09:01:30 syv: But frontline units are a tiny proportion of that.
09:01:50 syv: 1/6 counting wounded, yes?
09:01:55 Devastator: Yeah, but remember.
09:02:03 Devastator: 'wounded' in military context = won't come back.
09:02:12 Devastator: will come back is usually called 'sick', and not counted.
09:02:22 syv: That's why I was making sure.
09:02:45 Devastator: they've also killed about the corresponding number of generals. ;-p
09:03:01 Devastator: for a force of that size.
09:03:04 syv: So you figure about 150k for combat-capable soldiers?
09:03:48 Devastator: no, I figure it's 175k total soldiers, 25k casulties, but you don't need to get all of them to render ineffectie.
09:03:54 Devastator: some units have been pulled off the line, for instance.
09:04:24 Devastator: I figure the last few don't count. In reality, I think they've knocked out about 75% of the attacking capability or so.
09:04:36 Devastator: but they still have capability to defend.
09:04:40 syv: Well of course. Getting 3/6 would completely remove the fighting capacity.
09:05:03 syv: But 1/6 accounting for that isn't equal to 1/7 of the actual force ;P
09:05:05 Devastator: yeah, but there's been a few fresh reinforcements. A new brigade showed up in the NE, for instance.
09:06:43 Devastator: It's also hard to express how bloody this has been.
09:06:56 Devastator: have to go back to the battle for Berlin to find casulty rates this bad.
09:07:12 Devastator: the death rate for attacking forces is about 2/3 that of Iwo Jima.
09:07:17 syv: Yes. At first I was going to say 3/6 losaes would be "decimated"
09:07:25 Devastator: they've already done that.
09:07:34 syv: Then I remembered that the original meaning of decimated is "losing 10%"
09:09:06 syv: ...Scrolling through Oryx's list.
09:09:25 syv: I hadn't noticed before how they use the soviet flag for three-decade old vehicles.
09:09:34 syv: There's a lot of soviet flags.
09:10:08 Devastator: Yeah, it's used for stuff made in the soviet union.
09:10:24 Devastator: anyway, I think there's a betting pool going on for when the first russian T-62 shows up.
09:13:03 Devastator: also, I think word's getting around.
09:15:35 syv: Well, good, I guess, people are resisting.
09:18:13 Devastator: They really can't hide the casulties anymore. Just too many of them.
09:23:47 Devastator: "It's not a new picture!" I mean.. I haven't checked that, but it's one of those pictures that doesn't really matter how old it is. ;-p
09:29:23 Devastator: well, here's someone smart.
09:29:30 syv: Total US KIA + WIA during the entirety of the Vietnam war was a bit over 200k
09:29:43 Devastator: yeah, got a ways to go for that.
09:29:49 syv: In a month, Russia has reached an eigth of the casualties we suffered.
09:30:02 syv: ...That's really something.
09:30:03 Devastator: hey, if those numbers are true, that's more than twenty years of Afghanistan.
09:30:31 Devastator: yeah. Casualty rate is 2/3 that of Iwo Jima.
09:30:56 Devastator: apparently there was only that guy in the tank.
09:31:16 Devastator: came over to surrender.
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