ERLOG 2022-01-03

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01:44:36 ER: cameup with a big list of doom for generating demons
01:44:58 ER: slap list into list randomizer, read off the first couple things to have an idea of what demon is
02:09:31 Devastator: hmm.
02:09:38 Devastator: found some good DwR JRPG music.
02:09:47 ER: I see
02:09:49 Devastator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C37Lxm2e118
02:10:36 ER: DwR is a cool power, but neither of us has it in the game it's from, which hasn't updated this year
02:10:51 Devastator: I have it, but yes, that's a fair complaint.
02:16:25 ER: (the year is, of course, still young :D)
02:36:12 Devastator: also, am looking for more Extinction music.
02:36:31 Devastator: there's probably a couple more scenes that could use it.
02:37:10 ER: https://youtu.be/hWHmhb0nf3M
02:37:12 ER: tilde
04:44:40 Devastator: ~
05:32:28 ER: hm, all of the song playlists are either more sci-fi or more dark fantasy than the usual jrpg mood
05:32:35 ER: how about bastion, though?
05:32:49 ER: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL53mjgVKFq7yPfCiSJaA_aI2SPKrnEmmJ
05:44:45 Devastator: Some of those tracks seem pretty good.
05:56:45 ER: yeah, it's good
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06:15:51 syv: ...I have seven forum PMs
06:16:41 ER: a few are quest
06:17:46 syv: Six, it seems
06:18:02 syv: Seven is... dubs, about Call of Earth
06:18:39 ER: pog
06:23:10 ER: https://youtu.be/U8M5IeaAkmQ
06:23:46 ER: use that song to DwR, to... summon the spirit of pink jesus to carry away my witchified friend?
06:24:17 ER: might not be too feasable, but that's the only thing I can think to use it for
06:25:01 ER: Build That Wall could literally be used to build a wall, but it's also a song about how building walls will not save you
06:26:18 ER: might get some milage out of transistor or pyre songs
06:27:28 Devastator: Qvest.
06:27:51 Devastator: also I found a good DwR song.
06:28:21 syv: I sent quest
06:28:45 ER: ...problem with DwR for me is that I don't like happy or literal songs
06:29:09 ER: I'd just wind up WHEN OUR BODIES WASH ASHORE, SORROW'S CHILDREN NEVERMORE
06:29:37 syv: Using songs the GM loves may be meta tbh
06:29:52 syv: Imagine Dragons - Monster
06:30:03 syv: Offbrand IM
06:30:21 syv: Mother I'm here seems were as a DwR
06:30:35 ER: would offbrand IM do anything different from normal IM
06:30:44 Devastator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C37Lxm2e118
06:30:46 syv: It'd be weaker but cheaper!
06:30:59 ER: flying in circles, just trying to land...
06:31:10 syv: I think MiH would just be a calming song. There's no god to summon.
06:31:21 syv: In Circles is such a suitable song for a witch
06:31:39 Devastator: I don't think it'd have an IM effect on Alida.
06:31:40 syv: Listening, Dev
06:31:45 syv: This is a magical girl song
06:31:50 Devastator: Yes it is.
06:32:29 syv: ...Is this just a soul heal song?
06:33:02 syv: Whatever it is, it's a strong generic team utility
06:33:21 Devastator: basically, was thinking for team moves.
06:33:31 Devastator: easy enough to change 2 to whatever you want.
06:34:08 syv: Yeah, DwR is specified by the player now, but I'd say that song would be a team-wide empathy cast
06:34:27 syv: Spend soul on DwR, heal all allies for some portion of the spell's cost.
06:34:59 syv: Maybe throw in a light regen effect
06:35:14 syv: It is magical girl as *fuck*
06:35:24 ER: https://youtu.be/f9O2Rjn1azc
06:35:30 Devastator: I should play that JRPG for you, syv.
06:35:34 Devastator: the whole game is, to a degree.
06:36:10 syv: In Circles is so good for talking to a witch
06:37:07 ER: is an escape rope out of the labrynth an acceptable DwR effect?
06:37:22 syv: Yeah, definitely.
06:37:26 syv: Wouldn't take that form
06:37:32 syv: But the effect, 100%
06:37:44 ER: probably not a *great* idea, but sometimes you gotta quit while you're behind
06:37:53 Devastator: https://lparchive.org/Lunar-The-Silver-Star/Update%2001/5-update104.png
06:39:24 Devastator: If the hypothetical duet scene from BNA would be the most japanese thing ever, Lunar: The Silver Star is what would have been displaced from the top spot.
06:39:31 syv: ...I don't think I've listened to We All Become before?
06:39:55 Devastator: do note that shot's from like five seconds into the game. ;-p
06:39:59 syv: BNA really dropped the ball, not doing flying furry idol duet
06:40:12 Devastator: Prolly saving it for season 2. ;-p
06:41:53 syv: I really like We All Becomd
06:42:07 ER: it's good!
06:42:12 syv: This sounds like it should charge soul nova though
06:42:34 ER: Run!
06:43:28 syv: DwR works by gradually modifying reality around you, so this would be... basically tying yourself into the labyrinth, and turning your own little area into a bomb, or an amplifier for yourself as the bomb.
06:43:44 syv: Which would MASSIVELY piss off any witch, and require a serious defence
06:43:57 syv: That would be a really good strat against some witches, though.
06:44:20 syv: This current one, do that at the "bottom" of the arena, might be close to a dungeon bypass
06:44:35 syv: Might kill all the humans though.
06:45:13 ER: as the size of the explosion increases, the number of problems which it is incapable of solving approaches zero.
06:45:33 ER: [Arcane Gauge maxes out]
06:45:47 syv: And the size of the very last problem, the explosion itself, approaches infinity
06:46:19 ER: dunno what this one does, it's just sad :p https://youtu.be/lBi5Dd1vn4A
06:48:14 ER: almost makes me think that the groom is undead though, in eternal mourning
06:50:31 syv: A summon I guess?
06:50:52 syv: Might summon a shade of some kind, but leeching off the *witch's* memory
06:51:53 syv: Yeaaaah, summons a loving lich for the dying witch.
06:52:37 Devastator: would have been good for Lucy.
06:53:28 syv: Maria *
06:53:45 syv: I kinda doubt Lucy ever even had a boyfriend
06:54:01 syv: And with Maria's already obsessive tendency, it would've entirely shut her down.
06:56:01 ER: well, I guess I should have just played pyre years earlier, and made a Joy char, and gotten in the game immediately rather than being waitlisted
06:56:11 ER: and I coulda bypassed that dungeon!
06:56:35 syv: SMH you were so close, so foolish to miss that chance
06:57:42 ER: well, I just got a situation in a game where I thought of something cheeky I could have done way late, and then ran into nearly the exact same situation.
07:04:47 Devastator: hmm..
07:13:28 syv: Lockpicking lawyer has had tracking devices mailed to the PO box he uses to receive locks.
07:14:10 Devastator: hmm? I mean, no surprise there.
07:14:19 syv: Which... makes me wonder how he's dealt with that. Thinking about the videos where he opens up a *clearly* unopened lock, explicitly with instructions to record the opening of it, and then did so.
07:15:07 ER: I can only imagine that knowing lpl's position is dangerous knowledge~
07:15:29 Devastator: He lives in the DC Burbs, IIRC.
07:15:32 Devastator: I think on the VA side.
07:15:42 Devastator: beyond that, who cares?
07:16:37 syv: LPL cares, apparently
07:16:41 Devastator: well, yeah.
07:16:48 Devastator: lotta morons out there.
07:17:11 Devastator: Real morons.
07:17:36 Devastator: I hate to say it, but it's like 15 bucks to find out where just about anyone lives.
07:18:22 syv: Most people, yeah.
07:18:38 Devastator: Mmm, well, being a lawyer he might know what to do to prevent that.
07:18:44 Devastator: but it's something that can be done by anyone.
07:21:29 Devastator: dumbasses, really.
07:21:53 syv: Apparently he's picked up lots of hatred from locksmiths, for "breaking" security by obscurity.
07:22:06 ER: I guess that doing DwR with Devil Trigger is also pretty much a mini IM
07:22:30 Devastator: Mmm, that does make sense.
07:22:37 Devastator: there's a few locksmith gangs out there.
07:23:50 Devastator: Yeah, I forgot about them. There's one that's coast-to-coast.
07:24:11 Devastator: The guy in charge of that would hate LPL and be too dumb to know how to actually track someone down.
07:25:16 Devastator: I also remember he's pissy and very litigious, so should be a hoot.
07:28:37 Devastator: It might sound like I'm kidding, but I'm being serious.
07:32:22 syv: Nah, I believe you.
07:32:27 syv: Doesn't sound unreasonable, really.
07:33:23 Devastator: I admit, "The reason I'm not a conspiracy theorist is that the conspiracies I believe in are real" isn't very convincing. ;-p
07:34:17 ER: source: I got high on mushrooms and saw it
07:35:37 ER: just should take a spoon of salt when you see a conspiricy theory where the conspiricy is competent
07:36:23 Devastator: Well, in this one it's basically just a lot of fake google business listings and a lot of shitty locksmiths.
07:38:52 syv: Reality is mundane. It's not really a conspiracy theory in my opinion, because it's not saying anything crazy.
08:22:16 ER: hmm
08:22:23 ER: `roll 1d6 3
08:22:23 GameServ: Syntax: XdY [ {-|+|*|/} Z ]
08:22:45 ER: hm, guess not
08:23:15 Devastator: What were you trying to do?
08:23:46 ER: one discord bot can roll multiple iterations
08:23:57 ER: maybe?
08:24:06 Devastator: `roll 3d6
08:24:06 GameServ: Devastator rolled 3d6: 4 1 3 <Total: 8>
08:24:07 ER: `multiroll 3 1d6
08:24:16 syv: `roll 1d6+1d6+1d6
08:24:16 GameServ: Syntax: XdY [ {-|+|*|/} Z ]
08:24:37 syv: `roll 1d6*5
08:24:37 GameServ: syv rolled 1d6: 3 <Total: 3(*5) = 15>
08:24:42 ER: would let me do something like 3 1d6>4
08:26:55 Devastator: Not sure.
08:27:01 Devastator: `help roll
08:27:29 Devastator: `roll 4 3d6
08:27:29 GameServ: Devastator rolled 3d6: 4 3 1 <Total: 8>
08:27:29 GameServ: Devastator rolled 3d6: 2 4 6 <Total: 12>
08:27:29 GameServ: Devastator rolled 3d6: 6 6 1 <Total: 13>
08:27:29 GameServ: Devastator rolled 3d6: 5 1 2 <Total: 8>
08:36:49 ER: `roll 1d6<2
08:36:49 GameServ: Syntax: XdY [ {-|+|*|/} Z ]
08:37:26 Devastator: I don't think it can do comparisons or TNs.
08:37:38 Devastator: `roll 3d6 2
08:37:38 GameServ: Syntax: XdY [ {-|+|*|/} Z ]
08:37:48 Devastator: `roll 3d6 [2]
08:37:48 GameServ: Syntax: XdY [ {-|+|*|/} Z ]
08:38:43 syv: I wonder how hard it'd be to setup my own IRC bot
08:38:55 Devastator: hmm.
08:39:34 Devastator: `wod 5 3
08:39:35 GameServ: Devastator rolls 5 dice at difficulty 3: 6 1 8 5 7
08:39:35 GameServ: Successes: 4, Failures: 0, Botches: 1, Total: 3.
08:40:04 syv: If I used something open source that's already got normal features, it'd be easy to mod the code to add in more RPG commands
08:40:11 Devastator: `wod 5d6 3
08:40:11 GameServ: Devastator rolls 5 dice at difficulty 3: 8 10 5 10 2
08:40:11 GameServ: Successes: 4, Failures: 1, Botches: 0, Total: 4. You may reroll 2 if you have a specialty.
08:40:19 Devastator: mmm, nope, that's custom.
08:40:29 syv: It might also make it easier to seduce ER into using XdY<Z if the bot rolls it for him
08:40:34 Devastator: `roll [5d6 3]
08:41:21 ER: that's exactly what I was gonna use for helljackers...
08:41:35 ER: though likely Y would not be a variable
08:41:47 Devastator: I'm sure it exists, but that's intended for a specific ruleset.
08:44:38 ER: as usual my instinct is to keep numbers small, so it'd just be SKILLd6>CHALLENGE
08:44:53 ER: with a small range of different challenge levels
08:46:39 syv: That's just WOD
08:46:57 ER: yup~
08:47:06 ER: okay not exactly
08:47:11 ER: your system
08:48:27 syv: Not saying WoD isn't good, WoD is great
08:48:43 syv: But it is VERY different
09:00:26 ER: likely won't have that as attack rolls, if attacking involves rolls at all
09:00:52 ER: since none of my stats are really attacking stats and it seems like a boring thing to add
09:01:50 syv: Seems reasonable. Helljackers looks like more of a power/technique kinda game, rather than a statbuilding beat-em-up like D&D.
09:05:34 Devastator: yeah, seems pretty pro-creativity.
09:20:13 ER: anyways, gun bits I guess?
09:20:37 syv: Gun bits?!
09:21:01 ER: pistol grip reduces attacking time cost, maybe from 2 to 1 but that seems really powerful potentially.
09:21:08 ER: uh, power flickered for a second
09:21:20 ER: :v
09:21:34 syv: ...Gun bits should be the last thing to make, once other parts of the system function.
09:21:43 ER: likely
09:22:32 syv: The skill-ish stats seem to be creative powerset things. Mind lets you pull stuff out of your ass, alchemy lets you switch "things", etc. It'd be natural for gun to be stronger than them, but less flexible since you can't do it on the fly.
09:22:36 ER: at least, those and powers after I *have* a system
09:22:56 syv: ...Which means, before it should be made, you should have a good baseline for how things work with those powersets.
09:23:46 syv: I suspect guns should focus a lot on the effect they have on enemies. Silly stuff like teleport bullets and freeze ray laser sights.
09:24:45 syv: Alternatively, if I made a really big list for you, guns could be uncontrolled in how they grow, and your gun just evolves new parts that do things...
09:25:34 syv: "You feed the heart of Lorkhan to your shotgun! It now fires time-traveling slugs, which shoot enemies in the past!"
09:26:06 ER: all according to plan
09:27:20 Devastator: "You feed the heart of Lorkhan to your shotgun! It now hurts anyone who wields it such that they die in three turns."
09:29:36 ER: I mean, they gotta be like, gun parts and stuff
09:30:12 ER: feeding something's heart to it would be more like a stamina boost or special ammo
09:31:38 syv: Do you not know the reference I made? :<
09:32:19 Devastator: Morrowind man, Morrowind.
09:34:37 ER: I stopped playing morrowind because for some reason I thought that I could make it in the theives' guild without the stealth skill
09:34:54 ER: I think there was some quest I found which wanted me to join them?
09:34:56 ER: whatever
09:35:42 Devastator: Well, you can join the slave-freeing guild. All you gotta do there is find the guildleader.
09:43:09 Devastator: ..that's also how you join the assassination guild too, now that I think about it.
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19:48:32 Devastator: oh, hey ER.
19:48:51 Devastator: Syv talked me into having you two duel Trence in a non-canon Quest duel.
19:48:55 Devastator: Are you interested in that?
19:56:01 ER: sure
19:59:13 Devastator: ok. I'll probably just do that through chat.
21:31:54 ER: playing a new game
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