ERLOG 2021-11-23

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03:22:11 Devastator: ..I kinda do want a "Ride the Triangle" T-shirt now.
03:22:13 Devastator: hey ER.
03:22:15 Devastator: Saw the AH update.
03:22:20 Devastator: not sure how I missed it earlier.
03:22:41 ER: willim quest
03:23:07 Devastator: Willis.
05:04:43 ER: "the pieces that survived didn't seem too fragile. at least when I was hitting them."
05:05:03 Devastator: hah.
05:05:12 Devastator: more awful hospital?
05:05:25 ER: nilered
05:05:31 Devastator: Ahh, yeah, saw that.
05:05:31 ER: the uranium glass episode
05:05:41 Devastator: that'd be such a Trence observation.
05:06:41 ER: "I thought this was really cool, but what I wasn't a fan of was all the powdered uranium glass that was flying everywhere"
05:11:55 Devastator: Hah.
05:11:59 Devastator: Sent you a race update.
05:12:05 Devastator: lemme know if there's something you want a closer look at.
05:12:10 ER: ok
05:12:35 Devastator: I'm afraid it's just an open day today.
05:25:36 ER: ah yes, talking in quest
05:29:55 Devastator: sent.
05:35:57 ER: sent
05:41:11 Devastator: aight.
05:41:15 Devastator: I'll do the next update tomorrow or so.
05:42:01 Devastator: I hope my addiction to mundanity doesn't make it uninteresting. ;-p
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06:02:02 MJ: Lo
06:04:55 MJ: Hmm, on second thought I’m too tired and sick to be up this late. Night
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06:05:18 ER: rest jaguar
06:06:02 Devastator: okay, that was some classic drive by jaggers.
06:38:34 ER: speaking of, time for me to sleep
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09:01:21 syv: MJ joining, and then leaving and saying he should go to sleep literally three minutes later, is hilarious,
09:02:04 syv: Also, the "ride the triangle" thing sounds like a BDSM joke. I would *never* wear such a t-shirt.
09:13:02 Devastator: oh hey syv.
09:13:08 Devastator: it's a reference.
09:13:10 Devastator: one sec.
09:13:10 syv: oh hey dev.
09:13:27 Devastator: Defunctland did a long video on queuing and virtual queues and such.
09:14:59 Devastator: 'to properly answer the question of the effect on ride queues of this sytem, along with things like total waits and rides per guest, I'm going to need a complicated simulation."
09:15:10 Devastator: next up, the simulation. Shapeland, where all the rides are shapes. ;-p
09:15:41 Devastator: https://youtu.be/9yjZpBq1XBE?t=3475
09:15:51 Devastator: The park's main issue: Everyone wants to ride the Triangle.
09:19:01 Devastator: but yes, MJ was hilarious.
09:28:16 syv: "For instance, I can not give you back the time you've wasted watching this video."
09:28:19 syv: Yeaaaaah
09:29:18 Devastator: there's also not really enough data there, but it makes logical sense.. capacity is the same number of riders every day.
09:42:54 syv: I've long hated theme parks and don't understand why people like them so much. This video claiming those ridiculous waits are sourced from actual data just reinforces that.
09:43:54 Devastator: Yeah, well, you live in Florida.
09:44:07 Devastator: I live in snowland infinity from anywhere.
09:44:42 Devastator: I've visited large theme parks three times in my life.
09:48:35 syv: Yeah, but... like, on every occasion I can recall going to a theme park, I would've enjoyed doing something normal more. Usually much more.
09:49:53 Devastator: eh, different outlooks.
09:50:21 syv: Yeah, maybe.
09:50:34 syv: For me, most of the time it was more like "wait an hour for three minutes of experience that may be unpleasant or kinda neat"
09:50:51 Devastator: ahh, can see that.
09:51:20 syv: ...I also hate being in crowds.
09:51:24 Devastator: hah.
09:51:37 Devastator: I'm not much about people, but crowds don't bother me.
09:51:40 syv: So lines are pretty awful for me. And walking. And most everything else in theme parks.
09:52:01 Devastator: yeah, can see that.
09:52:28 syv: ...Yeaaaah the most I've enjoyed a theme park was when it was raining heavily and nobody was around, and we didn't even go on many rides. Just wandered around a rainy place with not so many people.
09:53:47 Devastator: I probably also wouldn't like them as much if visiting one could only be realistically done with a multi-hour plane ride, a hotel, and a couple months worth of planning.
09:55:49 syv: I have the suspicion that makes people more hype and counter-intuitively makes them enjoy it more. Because they're investing more.
09:57:51 syv: He's talking a lot, and I'm followong most of it, but I don't understand why the solution isn't "more cost", not "more wait time".
09:58:30 Devastator: because it really, really sucks to get unexpected charges after you're at the park.
09:58:44 Devastator: but yes, more bucks to get in, fewer people, less waits.
10:05:31 syv: ...It sounds like that was the solution.
10:05:56 Devastator: sorta. Also was 'don't let people fill the rides 60 days in advance.
10:17:40 Devastator: also extinction.
10:17:57 Devastator: ..this should have been done with a character with AoEs.
10:18:03 Devastator: Trence only has those when dragon.
10:18:40 syv: Ohh, yes!
10:18:44 syv: Extinction.
10:18:46 syv: Checking now.
10:24:36 syv: Does the center-bottom F enemy benefit from having shields on either side of him, or do only people *behind* shields benefit from them?
10:27:03 Devastator: Dunno!
10:30:42 syv: Alright then.
10:30:46 Devastator: hmm.
10:30:55 Devastator: Syv, what was the first From Software game?
10:31:07 syv: The *first?*
10:31:17 syv: Something really ancient, they've been around a looong time.
10:31:26 syv: I don't know, but I can check.
10:31:36 Devastator: nah nvm.
10:31:41 Devastator: was wondering what the first one you knew about was.
10:32:14 syv: Ehhh, I
10:32:30 syv: 'd prolly guess King's Field? But I know they're older than that.
10:32:36 Devastator: Dang.
10:32:51 Devastator: Someone did a TAS of King's Field II, and I was wondering if you'd heard of that.
10:32:53 Devastator: I hadn't.
10:32:56 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs5KNjG2e6s
10:33:19 syv: Hah!
10:33:28 syv: It WAS King's Field!
10:34:48 syv: Souls content producers have spent a lot of time delving into FS's past games, in particular KF, which has a lot of stuff that feels like precursor elements to DeS/DaS.
10:35:39 syv: Iron Pineapple also somewhat regularly does little... advertisements/reviews of the obscure old games.
10:35:57 Devastator: Allegiance? ;-p
10:36:42 syv: No, the obscure old FS games.
10:37:06 syv: ...I think they might manage to be more obscure than Alleg? Shadow Tower: Abyss is REALLY obscure.
10:37:49 Devastator: How many people played it?
10:37:59 Devastator: alleg had ~20k copies sold, total.
10:40:44 Devastator: wiki page has shadow tower selling more by a factor of 10.
10:41:04 syv: I think that's talking about DeS.
10:41:25 syv: "While IGN reported that the game had sold out in Japan, with 39,689 units shipped during its first week, the game also fared well in the United States with 150,000 units sold by October 2009 and 250,000 by mid-March 2010."
10:41:40 syv: STA was a 2003, DeS was a 2009.
10:41:47 Devastator: ahh, yeah.
10:41:55 Devastator: mind you, 39k is still more sales.
10:42:49 syv: Well, DeS was a massive success for FS.
10:43:04 syv: It directly led to DaS, which has been a meteoric success for the company.
10:43:39 Devastator: Maybe.
10:43:46 Devastator: but alleg is obscure to the point of absurdity.
10:44:00 Devastator: There are plenty of similarly obscure games.
10:44:06 Devastator: but people haven't heard of them, either. ;-p
10:44:47 syv: Wow, I found a website review for STA from March 2004.
10:44:56 syv: Very generic.
10:48:56 Devastator: yeah?
10:49:56 syv: Closed it. Just a little notable to find a review from 2004 on the first page of google.
10:50:14 syv: Can't find sales numbers trivially. :P
10:51:34 Devastator: yeah, no worries.
10:51:41 Devastator: it's almost certainly more than 20k, though.
10:52:44 syv: Prolly.
10:53:10 Devastator: plus you said 'obscure'
10:53:26 Devastator: having the same company make a series of extremely popular games makes their early titles much less obscure.
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11:07:40 Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55]
11:13:48 syv: Well yes, that's why I'd know about them. ;P
11:13:51 syv: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m_CrIu01SnM
11:15:50 Devastator: woof
11:16:30 Devastator: hey, dog figured it out!
11:16:31 Devastator: gj.
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11:55:27 syv: Meh
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