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04:41:39 Devastator: reading a thriller novel about a theme park.
05:02:31 Devastator: done, now doing dragongame.
05:03:32 syv: I'm not really doing anything.
05:04:46 Devastator: well, choice of skills on option.
05:04:53 Devastator: Trence has a new skill on offer.
05:29:59 syv: I mean, my first thought is something Dark Souls-y, since I've always thought of him mimicking that kinda playstyle.
05:30:53 syv: Mechanically... a stun or debuff or DoT would be likely? Somewhat uninteresting, though.
05:31:21 Devastator: A bit late, just finished the post.
05:31:27 Devastator: but there is an upgraded counter available.
05:32:06 Devastator: you also rolled fairly badly on the availability of spells.
05:32:33 Devastator: oh, one more bit to add.
05:33:07 syv: Double strike does +++ twice.
05:33:55 syv: Please add their sheets. >.>
05:35:50 syv: "Metal Magic, adding Metal Body buff, like the potions, to a single target. Does not last the whole body."
05:38:25 syv: "Shadow Messenger, a spell that allows one to talk to any known target, with a range of about a city."
05:38:57 Devastator: okay, fine, finish.
05:39:00 syv: What classes as "known target"? Name and picture? Or similar requirements to believing you "know" a person?
05:39:00 Devastator: whoops, yeah, meant battle.
05:39:11 Devastator: you have to know someone and they say yes.
05:39:43 syv: And for Willis/Sesha, it'd be essentially free when used out of combat? Since their mana regens passively?
05:39:56 Devastator: note that 'passively' means 'at the end of the day'
05:40:04 Devastator: In a city like this, Trence works the same way.
05:42:40 syv: What's the damage step for spells after extreme?
05:42:49 syv: I'm really tempted to get meditation for Willis.
05:42:58 syv: Would that buff everyone with BA?
05:47:21 Devastator: Meditation ups the damage one step.
05:47:40 Devastator: yes it could count with BA.
05:47:44 Devastator: but nobody else uses spells.
05:48:48 syv: Does dragon breath not count?
05:53:51 Devastator: That's something nobody knows.
05:54:04 Devastator: oh, note meditation is supposed to be self-only, not targetted.
05:55:07 syv: Ah, I assumed that was the case.
05:55:14 syv: Makes sense from the name.
05:55:42 Devastator: it also only works on one spell.
05:58:50 syv: Does magic resist work against all spells?
06:00:49 Devastator: it's the opposite of magic defense down.
06:02:52 Devastator: yes, but I reserve the right to add a time limit to it.
06:05:40 syv: Does Turbo Counter still require enemies to attack *Trence*, or is the upgrade allowing him to counter enemies which attack party members as well?
06:06:02 syv: There's a change of wording which implies that, but it's a really strong buff if so.
06:15:46 syv: Hrm. I'm assuming double strike counts as two hits for the purposes of poison, since that's typical for games... but I should ask. I'd expect them to know this in-universe, since poisoning weapons isn't that uncommon?
06:17:32 Devastator: the insta-death chance is per attack.
06:19:27 syv: Huh, I wasn't expecting you to tell me how the instadeath works with it.
06:19:46 syv: ...I forget, is the venom dragon's clawbuff only instadeath buff? <.>
06:20:04 syv: It has a spit-poison-on-claws ability.
06:20:39 syv: I thought it was a poison buff like Sessha's, but I forget and asking is quicker than searching.
06:21:33 Devastator: no, that's poison damage too.
06:21:46 Devastator: ie, like sessha's lethal.
06:27:19 Devastator: More claw-spitting action!
06:28:53 syv: Issue is that costs an action while in dragon form, *and* needs poison form, which we don't get a large amount of utility out of anyways. More instakill, but beyond that it seems inferior to T2 forms and weakness forms. Additionally, double strike is tiring, and the best dragon abilities are also tiring.
06:29:35 syv: It's a synergy that's there, it's just not as clearly OP as double strike working with instakill. That brings it closer to turbo counter, which I think is too expensive just for some damage reduction when it gets used.
06:31:38 Devastator: spitting isn't tiriing, though.
06:39:26 syv: Is single-target Armoire All equally as strong as the group buff? Or weaker/stronger?
06:39:40 Devastator: It's +2 levels instead of +1.
06:40:35 Devastator: Sessha probably learned that one first.
07:00:45 syv: Well I posted my opinions on everything.
07:01:00 syv: Not posting any actual suggestions yet, waiting for discussion from others.
07:02:21 syv: I think Turbo Combo would be a favorite of mine, if only it were cheaper. Poison dragon plus that would spread a lot of damage around/
07:03:15 Devastator: bladeagon plus that.
07:05:07 syv: Eh, blade + ice + anything is good.
07:05:44 syv: Instakill and blade damage buff are sort of adjacent in purpose, rather than synergistic.
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11:47:13 ER:
Devastator, is New Skill: Double Strike supposed to be weaker than Power Slash -> Double Strike?
11:47:35 ER: former is ++ while the latter is +++
11:50:10 ER: I can see why it makes sense to get some extra damage for losing Power Slash, but paying 2 upgrades for something which does the same damage as current power slash seems useless and like a trap option
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16:12:43 Devastator: and I think Iceblade + Double Strike would be two hits at ++++.
16:40:20 Devastator: and yeah, they're different because one is an upgrade.
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