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04:04:57 Devastator: I did indeed make an error with that spell, fwiw.
04:07:49 syv: Did the metal buff get multiplied?
04:07:57 syv: Or was it just a few HP extra damage?
04:08:12 Devastator: I applied the metal buff to the spell.
04:08:29 Devastator: so it was fairly small. I think it works out the same, more or less.
04:12:49 syv: How expensive are smelling salts?
04:13:31 Devastator: Cheaper than mana potions.
04:13:45 Devastator: I think they were 3 per upgrade at the last place, and that's more than usual.
04:14:21 syv: Mrm, not sure whether I want to use the one now, then.
04:16:33 Devastator: Trence will get back up with 1 HP.
04:16:53 Devastator: and then rest, and be stuck at 75% max HP until you guys get back to town.
04:16:59 Devastator: which should be tomorrow, but you might get another encounter.
05:05:20 Devastator: Thanks for your help with extinction.
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05:05:26 Devastator: it's nice having someone to bump ideas against.
05:05:54 Devastator: Hmm. What's an Osprey (the vehicle)
05:06:19 MidJag: Their like a big cargo plane thats also a helicopter
05:07:16 Devastator: looks like what I should offer if the black market spits out a mildly upgraded transport chopper.
05:08:02 Devastator: wiki says they weren't in service until after 2000, but they don't seem unreasonable.
05:08:18 MidJag: IIRC the marines like them because they're quite fast, but also vertical.
05:08:36 MidJag: Good for like troops and transports.
05:09:00 Devastator: yeah, they do look like an upgraded transport chopper. Maybe something with one [medium] slot.
05:09:48 Devastator: big rolls will be super custom stuff, like always. ;-p
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05:20:57 Devastator: "You do not have enough aluminium ingots to do this"
05:21:59 Devastator: I have enough fabrication skill that sometimes it's much easier to repair stuff via the arc welder interface instead of the vehicle repair interface.
05:22:16 Devastator: apparently motorbike saddles are made of aluminum.
05:23:24 syv: Ospreys are neat but not great.
05:23:51 syv: But yeah, chopper-equiv with one medium space is very reasonable.
05:24:13 syv: I'm alright. Last day at work! Then I get two days off.
05:24:30 MidJag: I'll admit if I was a general I would probably waste an incredible amount of money on the most cutting edge things that I found exciting.
05:24:45 Devastator: That's a spot on the pentagon boards, then.
05:26:08 Devastator: oh, btw, you probably didn't hear about it, but all the pentagon boards were basically shredded on day one after the sec. defense appointment.
05:27:23 Devastator: Yeah, hard to defend it, so the RWM basically went with 'lets pretend it didn't happen, because it sounds like something really, really good, done by the new administration.'
05:31:17 Devastator: 'biden is a slave to the deep state' 'biden purges hundreds of pentagon board advisory positions on day one after sec. def. appointment'
05:31:34 Devastator: just a little too quick, that one.
05:32:43 Devastator: need a name for the foldable powered quad bike.
05:33:42 Devastator: it's not for fighting or anything, it's so I have something I can pick up to drive back to the other vehicle, if I end up with two.
05:36:32 syv: Electric vehicle is quiet, so a good stealthy nighttime transport, and using it as a secondary smaller transport made me think of it as the periodic complement to a major alternative; Sol.
05:36:48 Devastator: Put the first few pieces in place, and it's just amusing to see a multi-space vehicle come from one item.
05:39:13 Devastator: it's also not an electric vehicle. It'll be unpowered, but you can make 2L liquid tanks foldable, and you can also install small one-cylinder engines with just a wrench and like 20 minutes.
05:39:22 Devastator: so I'll pop the engine off and fold it up.
05:41:07 syv: Ah. I should've remembered that.
05:41:21 Devastator: I'd be happy with an EV, but no electric motor is foldable, either.
05:42:08 Devastator: standard car batteries are foldable, as are motorbike batteries, as are small motorbike batteries. I'll see how much juice I need and install the smallest.
05:43:16 Devastator: wiki has 1-cylinder engines somehow consuming no power at all, which would be awesome if true. Then I'll just put on a headlight instead.
05:44:37 Devastator: If this works, it'll be the neatest thing I've ever done in this game.
05:51:24 MidJag: I bought new shoes today, finally got around to replacing my old ones.
05:51:32 Devastator: always feels good when you do that.
05:52:47 syv: ...I always hate new shoes for awhile.
05:53:00 MidJag: I general I hate shoes.
05:53:32 Devastator: I wear mine far too long.
05:55:18 MidJag: I'd worn away essentially all of the padding on my shoes and I was like hmm, I guess since now it hurts to walk long distances I'll finnally replace them.
05:56:28 MidJag: For me I hate shoes that have a bunch of junk on them.
05:58:28 Devastator: in my case they start getting holes.
05:59:20 Devastator: well, the wheels are on. Nex, time to get nine sheets for the quarterpanels and a roof. I think I'll have one stowage space, but that'll be the pipework box.
06:00:36 Devastator: I suppose I don't need a door, which is good because I don't see any options.
06:22:15 Devastator: I was very annoyed at having to find a toolkit because the fabrication recipie for a wire basket is so old it demanded specific tools rather than a quality.
06:22:31 Devastator: but I then re-searched a hardware store and found an Atomic Lamp, one of the best items in the game.
06:23:38 Devastator: ..and requires literally nothing.
06:25:04 MidJag: and that is one of the best items in the game?
06:25:14 MidJag: It's been a while since I played CADDA
06:25:23 MidJag: so I'm not sure why that's awesome
06:27:47 syv: ...Because every other source of light is either fire, or burns batteries,
MJ.
06:30:56 Devastator: It seems if's fully foldable with the engine attached.
06:31:03 Devastator: I'm going to add an alternator.
06:33:01 Devastator: okay, this is indeed the coolest thing I've ever done in game.
06:36:59 Devastator: 'as the pitiless metal bars close on your nether regions, you reconsider trying to fold it while riding it'
06:37:11 Devastator: although looking at it, I'm going to remove the two boarding frames to lighten it.
06:40:22 Devastator: "You place the folded Luna in the car's Cargo Space"
06:41:25 Devastator: well, the Car +1, because that's what I named my car.
06:41:45 Devastator: who wants a folding bike when you can have a folding quad?
06:43:47 Devastator: next up, check if items it's carrying stay carried, then have infinite vehicles, stored in themselves.
06:44:21 MidJag: Yo dog I heard you like quads so I put a quad in your quad so you can quad whille you quad.
06:44:48 Devastator: (I doubt it, but I figured having some cargo space would be much nicer than not, so..)
06:45:39 MidJag: Anyway, I should go to bed
06:46:20 Devastator: Nope, stuff doesn't go inside it.
06:46:27 Devastator: so no telescopic vehicles.
06:47:30 Devastator: It's still deeply satisfying.
06:47:44 Devastator: I have a vehicle I can use to haul two vehicles at a time.
07:06:31 Devastator: or I could have just used a bike rack part and made a one-tile vehicle. ;-p
07:07:46 Devastator: but I'll never make a one-tile vehicle.
07:07:48 Devastator: it just seems wrong to me.
07:08:03 syv: Everyone's ultimate goal in Cata should be to find a full set of heavy power armor, build a segway, then ride through cities with an LMG.
07:08:55 syv: My dad has a mini segway thingy. It's actually really nice and amazingly usable.
07:11:10 Devastator: I hope Prequel updates soon.
07:11:46 Devastator: often more often than that.
07:12:27 syv: I'd admire your resolve and appreciate your utility as a preconfigured RSS feed.
07:19:28 Devastator: I suspect the thing with gasoline in cata is that it will eventually run out.
07:21:15 Devastator: Katia's a good character.
07:22:50 syv: Katia's an excellent character.
07:23:05 syv: Gasoline in Cata is a renewable resource, you can just travel to find more. ;P
07:23:28 syv: Plus, the amount that *should* be available is just far beyond what you could reasonably ever use.
07:27:49 syv: Picking the worst numbers a few trivial google searches gave me, 10k gallons per station is reasonable, and an Abrams gets better than a mile per four gallons. So you should have 2,500 miles per gas station for whatever monstrosity of a vehicle you build. Maybe less in some cases, since a station could be mostly depleted, but some could have way more.
07:39:58 syv: Do you think Gharug will kill ASOTIL?
07:44:00 Devastator: 10,000 gallons for a station is a huge amount.
07:44:09 Devastator: I'm not sure about Gharug.
07:44:21 Devastator: I think it's about 30-70
07:44:26 Devastator: 30 he will, 70 he won't.
07:44:39 Devastator: 40,000 L is a lotta gas at once.
07:45:28 Devastator: plus you need to have something to pump the gas out of the tanks.
07:45:32 Devastator: which means electricity.
07:46:48 Devastator: and if that runs out, you have to go to the refineries, which is going to be a hella fun time finding out how to actually get at the gasoline there. ;-p
07:47:35 Devastator: A city might have, say, one gas station per 6,000 people.
07:48:05 syv: With the mechanical genius Cata characters display, setting up and powering a pump should be an attainable task. It certainly would be more difficult than constructing a heavily armored multi-engine behemoth.
07:48:08 Devastator: so about 3.2 L per person in storage at the moment.
07:48:25 Devastator: and there are hand pumps. Gasoline is dangerous, but it's just a liquid.
07:49:11 Devastator: generally every station gets a delivery each and every day.
07:49:19 Devastator: if not more than one.
07:49:45 syv: I was also using the lowest estimate for capacity. Modern gas stations were stated to be *able* to hold 12k to 24k gallons, with 10k and less being existent but phased out. Article could've been unreliable, but I also wasn't caring thaaaat much.
07:50:06 syv: But yeah, they'd have some amount less. And there was social panic, so shortages aren't unreasonable.
07:50:09 Devastator: eh, maybe they're bigger in the states.
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