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02:57:42 Devastator: alleg went okay today.
02:57:52 Devastator: I think I've got the rust off and am playing at about my level of skill.
02:58:21 Devastator: There was also the finals for the AoE II tournament today.
02:58:31 Devastator: There's the finals and thw two semifinals.
02:58:43 Devastator: something like 80k on the line.
02:58:53 Devastator: everyone who got into it gets 2k min, but the prizes go up.
02:59:09 Devastator: (That was for the round of 16.)
03:00:45 Devastator: I think the casters have the identities of the semifinalists wrong.
03:05:30 Devastator: yeah. I think Viper is admiral Yi, and it's two of the micro specialists in the other semifinals.
03:05:47 Devastator: they're saying it's viper-hera, but I think it's Lierrry-hera.
03:06:10 Devastator: other semifinal was Viper- Mr. Yo.
03:06:43 MidJag: Is Viper the top player? I feel like I've seen him on that casters channel
03:06:52 Devastator: Viper is stupidly good.
03:07:02 Devastator: he's the top player for this format.
03:07:13 Devastator: He has lost in a few recent specialist tournaments, but this format is his style.
03:14:14 Devastator: he's good on a lot of maps, and playing in different styles.
03:14:26 Devastator: different build orders.
03:14:40 Devastator: can play agressive, can boom, can micro..
03:14:52 Devastator: like the Mike Tyson of AoE II.
03:15:12 Devastator: was a hard puncher, was a smart boxer, and was pretty fast.
03:15:26 Devastator: Viper's got the whole package, even if there are individuals who can beat him in one aspect.
03:16:37 Devastator: on the other hand, currently watching Ivalayo, the player the casters say is Viper, going with a highly unusual strategy, and deep knowledge is one of Viper's tells.
03:17:55 MidJag: Or just being comfortable with doing weird shit.
03:20:11 Devastator: knowing when the right move is something bizarre.
03:20:23 Devastator: and then being comfy doing whatever weird shit you're doing.
04:14:02 Devastator: cataclysm firearm waterproofing kits work on rocket launchers.
04:14:04 Devastator: That I want to see.
04:14:21 Devastator: "This rocket launcher is so awesome, but the only problem is that I can't use it while swimming."
04:14:31 MidJag: I'm just imgaging a giant plastic bag
04:14:38 Devastator: What tactical situation requires that, exactly?
04:14:46 Devastator: It's intended for underwater operation.
04:21:23 MidJag: Look sometimes you just need to shoot a rocket at a submarine while scuba diving. who hasn't needed to do that?
04:23:30 Devastator: I mean, there were all manners of bombs that were planted by hand by divers.
04:23:45 Devastator: but you generally didn't use the same rocket launchers that you'd use above the surface.
04:24:21 MidJag: I mean yeah, though now that I think about it I wouldn't be suprised if in some special ops toolbox there is a handhel torpedo launcher
04:26:58 Devastator: I did find a third Sig P320 and a zombie had a box of the ammo, so.. I now have a new pistol to actually carry.
04:27:14 MidJag: How is your mechanics skill?
04:27:18 Devastator: seems better than a plain glock. Enough extra damage.
04:27:31 Devastator: to add a suprssor and still have better damage.
04:30:53 Devastator: need 17% to get to rank 4, which I think I want so I can install a solar panel and a recharging station on the in-progress vehicle I'm making.
04:34:41 Devastator: mostly just so it does something while sitting there.
04:38:02 Devastator: that said, it looks like I need to put on a whole bunch of parts to have an enclosed bit for the charging station, so maybe not. I'll just keep adding more bits until it gets closer.
04:38:09 Devastator: and decide if I want a 5 wide or a 4 wide vehicle.
04:38:41 Devastator: might just be 4 wide with one more length than a car for a fridge and freezer. Or go for a 5-wide so it's less long.
04:39:08 Devastator: I have enough junk to want three trunk spaces.
04:39:28 MidJag: I'm not sure I ever made a car succsefully run in CCDA
04:40:26 Devastator: huh, it isn't that rare to just find one.
04:40:36 Devastator: making one from scratch takes a lot of time, but it's possible.
04:41:35 MidJag: Makeing one from scrathc I mean
04:41:40 MidJag: I've also not played much CCDA
04:41:47 MidJag: Like a little bit sure, but not much'
04:42:13 Devastator: making one from scratch takes some time.
04:42:21 Devastator: might have been easier in the past. I've done it before, but this is taking longer.
04:42:41 Devastator: mind you, that last one was just for running over people, and so was much smaller.
04:44:55 MidJag: CCDA has quite possibly the most consistinely inconistent tone I've ever seen in a video game. It's like literally every possible apoclopyse happened but it's still restricted to only one small section of new england.
04:45:38 MidJag: Although it being new england I assume everyone was just to drunk to notice it was occuring in the rest of it.
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05:06:12 Devastator: couldn't find the book I was looking for, but it turned out this library down the block had another copy.
05:06:21 Devastator: and about a dozen more Zs, but only took a few cuts.
05:06:37 Devastator: -75% HP is basically just 'realistic' mode.
05:06:46 Devastator: a couple bullets put you down, but you can still take a few scratches.
05:09:42 Devastator: read my way up to mechanics 4, which is mostly sufficient.
05:09:58 Devastator: I'm just so glad it speeds up doing things.
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05:10:17 Devastator: each level cuts down the time it takes to actually do anything.
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05:14:03 syv: Yeah I should prolly look into a new IRC app.
05:15:21 Devastator: didn't send you any PMs this time.
05:17:10 Devastator: I see you have no worries for Trence falling down any cliffs,
syv.
05:17:33 Devastator: I mean, he might turn into a water dragon, but he's still going to get ouched from that.
05:18:02 syv: I figure the danger will mostly end when the fish are dead?
05:18:35 syv: And I think counter has good odds of ending the fight. Especially if Willis can actually remove himself from combat... though I don't have high hopes for that.
05:18:36 Devastator: counter will just deal the AoE bonus damage to the fish.
05:18:40 Devastator: and yeah, you can use shooters like that.
05:18:48 Devastator: it'll be a roll, but seems reasonable.
05:19:31 syv: In that case it might be better for him to shoot, to seal the kill.
05:20:08 syv: If retreating won't be forcing attacks onto Trence, and therefore dealing more damage.
05:20:17 Devastator: retreating will be forcing attacks onto Trence.
05:20:22 Devastator: but trence is strongboy.
05:20:29 Devastator: and willis can shoot from the shore.
05:20:32 Devastator: he is a crack shot.
05:21:26 syv: I mean, I expected counter to deal one hit of damage for every attack that hits Trence.
05:21:43 Devastator: nah, the swarm is one target. It takes bonus damage for AoE attacks.
05:21:52 Devastator: Counter will get the best bonus, the one for 'hit all' attacks.
05:22:06 Devastator: so it's a fine move.
05:22:19 syv: In which case, it doesn't matter whether or not Willis is also receiving attacks.
05:22:41 syv: So this turn, maximum damage is an attack from Trence *and* from Willis.
05:23:26 syv: If danger ends on fish dying, then that's the safest choice. Because fish being 1 hit away from death, but still alive, means Trence goes over the waterfall. Presumably.
05:23:45 syv: Though that's questionable, since it's really gamey.
05:24:01 Devastator: Willis got dunked and didn't go over the waterfall.
05:24:05 Devastator: Trence hasn't lost ground yet.
05:24:18 syv: And narratively it makes more sense for Willis to get to shore then pull him out.
05:24:27 Devastator: Willis lost a space.
05:24:54 syv: Yeah then nevermind, current orders are perfect.
05:27:07 Devastator: dangit, did
NJW edit WHILE I WAS POSTING?
05:28:47 Devastator: I'm not rewriting that, as much damage as Absolute Zero would have done.
05:28:55 Devastator: big spells do big damage.
05:29:11 syv: And yeah, orders are set when the turn starts.
05:30:38 Devastator: only issue is that I'm worried people might think AZ is a pretty weak spell.
05:30:40 Devastator: not really, though.
05:31:02 Devastator: it's one notch below the maximum single target damage grade.
05:33:36 Devastator: doesn't quite work like that.
05:33:43 Devastator: Light, Moderate, Major, Massive, Extreme.
05:34:15 syv: Absolute Zero doesn't deal Absolute damage?
05:34:33 syv: Or is absolute just OHKO level?
05:35:23 Devastator: Nah, that'd be instant death.
05:35:37 Devastator: only think I have like that is Spar Hessom's sword.
05:35:59 MidJag: Nah Absolute Zero just kills you and everyone else in the universe.
05:36:00 Devastator: I just wanted a free slot above the biggest spell I had planned.
05:38:09 Devastator: dunno if I'll update again tonight. Maybe.
05:38:25 Devastator: still want to think about Revenant, too. Maybe do orders tomorrow night.
05:44:41 syv: His sword is "instakill" damage?
05:46:02 syv: ...Swap light for minor, and extreme for finale, and those tiers look familiar.
05:46:21 Devastator: it's more complicated than that, but the sword Valterre is supposed to be the finest weapon ever forged, after all.
05:47:31 Devastator: It probably isn't quite as flashy.
05:47:33 Devastator: but it's impressive.
05:47:54 Devastator: anyway, there's a reason why the guy told you to run.
05:49:38 Devastator: Reinhard has a better weapon.
05:49:45 Devastator: that's just a higher power level setting.
05:50:10 Devastator: Valterre is probably about the same relatively.
05:53:20 Devastator: each member of that group has a bullshit item of some kind.
05:53:26 Devastator: Spar's is the worst.
05:54:36 Devastator: Carina has a stat-boosting cloak that can autocast stored spells.
05:55:09 Devastator: Dorren can duplicate spells that are normally limited to one at a time.
05:55:26 Devastator: He had a combo planned, but there's other things that can be used for.
05:55:48 Devastator: If trence had that, he could dragon form his dragon form.
05:57:44 Devastator: Yeah. Basically any time he shows up, there will be some plan.
05:58:06 Devastator: everyone knows about the sword Valterre, but you'll have to ask Sessha if you want to know about Arngrim.
05:58:33 Devastator: do note that the MP cost is doubled, so..
05:58:36 MidJag: We need to be able to dragon form our dragon form
05:59:00 MidJag: I don't care how much we're going to die, we're getting that magic
05:59:26 Devastator: Maybe I should call it the Ring of Xizbit, I think it is.
05:59:35 Devastator: or the ring of Yo Dawg.
06:02:33 Devastator: I'm flattered this is so interesting.
06:05:16 syv: Yo dawg, I heard you like dragon forms, so I put a dragon form in your dragon so you can dragon while you dragon.
06:08:39 Devastator: it wouldn't quite be the full effect, it'd only duplicate the one he just used.
06:08:45 Devastator: so not mix and match.
06:11:52 Devastator: well, he could do mix and match.
06:12:06 Devastator: cast, revert, cast from ring, cast the combo.
06:15:48 Devastator: I mean, dragon form his dragon form totally works.
06:15:56 Devastator: but maybe he has to settle for a duplicate.
06:17:27 syv: Would that drain triple mana?
06:17:40 MidJag: We should figure out how to apply it to a weapon that way we can be casting our dragon form from a dragon form from a weapon that is just like part of us and tottally invsible.
06:18:07 syv: We can use the special gloves to apply it to everyone in the party.
06:18:32 syv: Four people combine into one dragon, which then combines itself into another dragon.
06:18:59 Devastator: Yeah, you can do that buff.
06:19:24 MidJag: ....We have to get this spell
06:19:25 Devastator: do note, though, that's three turns off the start of battle.
06:19:35 Devastator: also note, that the enemy has an insta-death weapon.
06:19:36 syv: What would be the benefit of dragoning a dragon form?
06:19:37 MidJag: Even if we die it's worth it
06:20:06 Devastator: every dragon ability would be upgraded and the stat boost would be doubled.
06:20:34 Devastator: same with the resistances.
06:21:05 Devastator: physically, it'd look like a highly exaggerated dragon.
06:21:16 MidJag: This is getting ever more tempting
06:22:21 Devastator: Willis would be in favor of it.
06:22:39 Devastator: more for some types than others.
06:22:45 Devastator: fire is pretty chompy.
06:22:53 Devastator: they all are to a greater or lesser degree.
06:31:02 MidJag: I'm in favvor of maximum dragon
06:31:58 Devastator: there's more memories and such to collect.
06:39:11 Devastator: and yeah, there's more dragon available.
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07:49:31 Devastator: okay, gonna update extinction again.
07:49:45 Devastator: good thing crack-shot willis is on the job, else that would have ended badly for Trence.
07:54:06 Devastator: but willis doesn't care about accuracy rolls.
07:56:46 Devastator: and the fish didn't knock any kids down this turn, so you're pretty good. I'd normally autofinish it, but I'm not up to describing a long scene today.
08:04:14 ER: desire to start a new rtd, currently high!
08:04:49 Devastator: I could post in Revenant..
08:05:13 ER: what's that got to do with anything?~
08:05:36 Devastator: (I do want a bit of time to think it over)
08:06:12 syv: What would a new RTD involve?
08:14:38 Devastator: Take advantage of the amberverse, where different rooms are subtly different upon revisit, with limited object permanence.
08:16:42 Devastator: well, they'd be a bit weird. Like the next room would be a bit different, like more richly appointed, or would have different sorts of decorations.
08:17:00 Devastator: and that theme would continue for a number of subsequent rooms, including ones you've already visited, which would change to match.
08:17:28 Devastator: and there'd be some fairly subtle shift every few rooms with one of those things going in one direction or other, or some feature showing up, or some other feature shading away.
08:17:42 Devastator: can also include stuff like 'who this house was made for' and such.
08:20:32 Devastator: and stuff like 'what colour is the sky'
08:22:49 Devastator: There is one house.
08:23:03 Devastator: There are ten thousand universes that contain a subtly different version of said house.
08:23:17 Devastator: every few rooms you move to another one, quite similar to the last.
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