ERLOG 2021-02-28

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00:01:13 MidJag: Hmm, I'm kinda curious. Would DF be in early accsses on steam?
00:01:42 MidJag: syv ER
00:01:46 MidJag: thoughts?
00:04:06 ER: it's basically meaningless
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00:09:15 Devastator: yeah, no idea.
00:09:30 Devastator: hey, congrast sy.
00:09:44 sy: Watching finals.
00:10:01 sy: Keno vs Snowy, two of the best three.
00:10:25 MidJag: hiya dev
00:24:20 MidJag: I'm watching a DF talk and it's like Toady going man, I feel kinda bad we did a half assed job "replicating several hundred distinct animal behaviors" in a game. Toady is a madman.
00:25:17 Elasticly_Rigid: He is certainly a rare breed
00:25:37 Elasticly_Rigid: Hey dev
00:41:55 Elasticly_Rigid: <3
00:44:54 sy: The guy who beat me finished 3rd overall.
00:50:26 sy: Yeah, I got 6th overall.
00:50:33 MidJag: Nice
00:52:26 sy: Riblei was running the tourney, and Ben didn't join.
00:52:38 sy: But beyond them I think we had the top 8 people for lava.
00:52:42 sy: So that's
00:52:50 sy: Somthing
00:55:21 Elasticly_Rigid: Fooood
00:57:02 MidJag: Ah right, that's the thing I need to do.
00:57:56 Elasticly_Rigid: Yes
00:58:01 Elasticly_Rigid: Eat
00:58:07 Elasticly_Rigid: Yer so thin~
01:02:45 MidJag: I am fairly thin actually. Though less so than I was in highschool.
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02:02:40 Devastator: mmm.
02:03:11 ER: ooo
02:06:13 Devastator: heya
02:06:19 ER: <3
02:08:57 Devastator: yay
02:33:48 MidJag_: lol
02:33:52 MidJag_: ^lo
02:34:02 ER: lol
02:34:02 Devastator: Doing okay, MJ?
02:34:14 MidJag_: Been a long week, but yeah.
02:52:33 Devastator: That's good.
02:53:52 MidJag_: Yeah, how're you?
02:58:02 Devastator: Doing okay.
02:58:05 Devastator: got most of my chores done.
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04:40:33 syv: mew
04:43:25 Devastator: heya.
04:43:33 Devastator: sounds like the race went well.
04:43:39 Devastator: how's the stunt track coming along?
04:47:32 Devastator: (I mean stunt as in 'unique trick' rather than stunt as in acrobatic, because those are all acrobatic.)
04:48:09 syv: Oh, I finished it a few days ago. Forgot to link it here.
04:48:27 syv: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjXVmkTeHsE
04:49:09 syv: Tourney went great. 6th of eleven people, but nine of those people hold world records.
04:53:49 ER: good choice of music there :P
04:55:40 syv: Yes~
04:56:13 syv: When I listened to that song, I literally thought "I gotta use this as background music for a fucked up race"
04:58:01 ER: been listeing more to this one https://youtu.be/H69Z3LXDNto
04:58:46 syv: Didn't even see that one.
04:59:42 ER: similar, but with some more laid back parts
04:59:55 ER: and a little "creepier", I guess?
05:01:08 syv: Oh, that'd be neat.
05:01:25 syv: Race map that randomly teleports you to a creepy modified version of the map.
05:10:38 ER: random teleports while maintaining momentum could be fun. and funny~
05:11:31 ER: not sure how you'd make it so that you can't just randomly die or clip out of bounds, unless both maps are also identical mechanically
05:11:44 Devastator: going for any world records yourself?
05:13:48 syv: They're identical as far as collision. But in this game you can have lethal walls which can't be grappled (lava), so you could have it be *much* harder.
05:14:13 syv: I have one world record. Keep intending to upload videos to nab some easier ones which aren't being contested, but I always procrastinate.
05:14:14 Devastator: we going to watch that OVA?
05:14:17 Devastator: yay!
05:34:00 ER: I figured sy would reply to that first
05:34:05 ER: ova would be fine
05:34:45 Devastator: mmm.
05:39:44 Devastator: syv, ova?
05:40:55 syv: Bleh. I guess I'm not doing anything better.
05:41:04 syv: I feel sleepy, but that degrades everything.
05:41:16 syv: If we start, start after 50 minutes.
05:41:25 syv: To minimize cloud time.
05:41:28 syv: Er.
05:41:33 ER: yes?
05:41:38 syv: It's 0041, so start in nine minutes...
05:41:38 ER: ~
05:42:44 Devastator: ok
05:42:48 Devastator: lemme get fud.
05:50:48 syv: OVA is up
05:52:30 ER: hopefully it's gud
05:52:34 Devastator: ready
05:52:55 syv: Ready.
05:53:13 syv: ER, should I stab you?
05:53:22 ER: yes
05:53:29 ER: ...
05:53:35 ER: *eyebrows*
05:53:36 syv: Creepy. Just open the OVA.
05:53:42 ER: its open
05:53:57 syv: Ready>
05:53:57 ER: that was like, one minute
05:53:59 syv: ?
05:54:03 ER: yes
05:54:07 syv: 5
05:54:09 syv: 4
05:54:10 syv: 3
05:54:12 syv: 2
05:54:13 syv: 1
05:54:14 syv: 0
05:54:32 Devastator: This is how puck met Elf, iirc.
05:54:40 syv: Kadokawa, I guess.
05:54:46 syv: I think so.
05:54:54 ER: only slightly elf
05:55:06 syv: Fully half elf.
05:55:14 syv: Nife
05:55:19 Devastator: Yeti.
05:55:25 ER: yes, yeti
05:55:32 Devastator: knifeman there seems bold.
05:55:34 Devastator: and elf.
05:55:40 Devastator: elf v sasquatch.
05:55:55 ER: goes pew
05:56:17 Devastator: well, she has manabolt.
05:56:19 syv: Car would probably lose against this random dude with a knife.
05:56:22 Devastator: but not at a very high level.
05:56:28 Devastator: yes.
05:56:45 Devastator: freezing the yeti seems hard.
05:57:11 Devastator: Damn.
05:57:15 ER: don't be racist!
05:57:23 Devastator: no wonder she gets clingy with Car.
05:57:31 Devastator: if everyone is like this.
05:57:37 Devastator: although the wound probably hurts.
05:57:57 ER: think he mighta died
05:58:20 syv: Prolly
05:58:25 Devastator: yah
05:58:32 syv: Huh.
05:58:36 Devastator: so don't mess with the elf.
05:58:40 syv: Has been in mansion for awhile.
05:58:42 Devastator: mind you, if that happens..
05:58:44 syv: Hum, Puck al...
05:58:47 Devastator: no wonder people avoid her.
05:58:49 Devastator: flashback.
05:58:50 syv: Or okay, this is modern.
05:58:56 ER: slightly different outfit
05:59:04 ER: stop posting so fast you bastards
05:59:09 ER: I gotta read
05:59:18 syv: Your loss.
05:59:24 syv: This show has a good dub.
05:59:38 syv: Elf lady sculptures, too.
06:00:01 Devastator: back in time again.
06:00:08 Devastator: this must be where she lived before mansion.
06:00:33 ER: much hair
06:00:43 syv: Nan hair!
06:01:07 syv: Just slap yourself with water in a frozrn place, yeh
06:01:08 ER: mysterious
06:01:13 Devastator: I think she's immune to cold.
06:01:38 ER: possibly, if she's a mage and that's her element
06:01:44 ER: probably easy to come by resistance
06:01:46 Devastator: 'if she's a mage'
06:02:23 Devastator: she's like 125% mage.
06:02:31 syv: She's a spirit user,
06:02:41 Devastator: that's like double mage.
06:02:48 syv: Not sure if that counts as mage at all.
06:02:57 Devastator: well, she isn't a fighter or a thief.
06:03:00 Devastator: and that leaves on mage.
06:03:10 syv: No, it leaves magic-user.
06:03:23 syv: And cleric.
06:03:32 syv: And she's more cleric, really.
06:03:40 Devastator: oh no, I'm going way back in the day.
06:03:40 syv: Channeling another's magic.
06:03:45 Devastator: Fighter/Thief/Mage.
06:03:49 Devastator: and that was it.
06:04:43 ER: warlock, I guess :p
06:04:49 syv: Fighting-man, magic-user, cleric, thief.
06:05:13 Devastator: (It's a deliberate obscure reference, syv, don't worry about it.)
06:05:29 syv: I'm talking about AD&D!
06:05:35 syv: No number!
06:05:41 Devastator: in AD&D wouldn't she be an Elf? ;-p
06:05:43 syv: That's obscure enough.
06:06:00 ER: no, elf multicalss
06:06:18 Devastator: Only humans can multiclass.
06:06:51 Devastator: wonder what she buys. Spices?
06:07:00 Devastator: can't buy her food, that'd involve too many trips.
06:07:36 syv: She was shown buying food, no?
06:07:46 Devastator: it looked like some generic brown stuff, and then making food.
06:08:27 Devastator: so could be food.
06:08:34 ER: elf needs internet friends
06:08:48 Devastator: dang missed that.
06:08:50 Devastator: whose wish?
06:08:55 syv: Puck's!
06:09:23 syv: It was a repeat of the last word frame in the opening.
06:09:57 ER: can't tell this girl to be less selfless
06:10:09 ER: it won't work
06:10:12 syv: Is she super selfless?
06:10:19 Devastator: she doesn't have any friends.
06:10:26 Devastator: except for the spirit.
06:10:32 syv: Catman!
06:10:32 Devastator: well, this guy's evil.
06:10:37 ER: hi anime bad guy
06:10:41 Devastator: man, these guys are overconfident.
06:11:01 Devastator: like super overconfident.
06:12:00 Devastator: Just put these guys in the ground. Or run. They're too dumb to do anything.
06:12:27 ER: put the fear of god into them
06:12:33 Devastator: fear of the devil.
06:12:39 ER: same thing
06:12:39 Devastator: Yeah, these guys are too overconfident.
06:13:06 syv: Shoot leader.
06:13:21 syv: ...
06:13:22 Devastator: Yeah, just stand there and shoot the leader.
06:13:25 Devastator: the rest will give up.
06:13:32 syv: When did she get melee combat skill?
06:13:41 ER: high level~
06:13:42 Devastator: Those guys are generic anime mooks!
06:13:49 Devastator: Anything can beat them.
06:13:55 Devastator: Subaru beat two guys and he was Subaru.
06:14:03 syv: True.
06:14:29 syv: Dying in a snowball fight. Yeah, mooks.
06:15:29 Devastator: mmm, so trump card is everything freezes.
06:15:33 Devastator: and it's not controlled.
06:15:39 Devastator: no wonder nobody wants to be around her.
06:15:49 ER: seems to be every wound in the area
06:15:55 syv: Dryfishing
06:15:56 ER: and prolly not controlled
06:16:03 Devastator: Yeah.
06:16:33 ER: blood exosed to air crystalizes?
06:16:51 Devastator: That might be too weird for the wild magic table.
06:17:33 syv: "wounds around you do not close, but still heal and their leaking of blood does no further harm.
06:17:56 ER: flash freeze them into pulp
06:18:07 syv: "Your blood has a mind of its own and flees from you when given a chance."
06:18:16 Devastator: Oh that sounds like fun.
06:18:51 syv: Have it shiver in fear like a small dog, until it dries.
06:19:14 Devastator: maybe have it spray out massively or something.
06:19:50 ER: don't fuck with the fae
06:20:09 Devastator: gotta lay down the law.
06:20:46 Devastator: uh oh.
06:21:36 Devastator: This guy's getting more screen time than normal.
06:21:55 Devastator: Ooh, he's got a nickname.
06:21:56 ER: kitty spirit is a little sadistic, which works
06:21:59 ER: cat
06:22:03 Devastator: well, he is a kaiju.
06:22:09 ER: and a cat
06:22:18 Devastator: have I had a cat kaiju yet? I think so.
06:22:35 ER: though he's not stronger than knightguy apparently
06:22:51 Devastator: Yeah, but that was knighguy with the dragonsword of legend.
06:23:02 Devastator: He is here for the explicit purpose of dealing with stuff like that.
06:23:23 Devastator: Mmm, so she froze the other elves then?
06:23:47 Devastator: Nope, those were manabolts but not spirits.
06:24:54 ER: a surpising amount of stuff has happened for not being halfway trhough yet :D
06:25:08 Devastator: Mostly, but there's still tons of questions.
06:25:10 ER: horse
06:25:11 Devastator: it isn't slow.
06:25:20 Devastator: and yeah, horse spirit.
06:25:44 ER: reminds me of SMT for some reason
06:25:51 Devastator: Yeah, see that.
06:25:56 Devastator: this would fit right in.
06:26:26 Devastator: Heh, does this happen a lot?
06:26:36 Devastator: randos showing up looking to murder Emelia.
06:26:55 ER: in this world, that probably is something which just happens to everyone
06:27:02 ER: and ya gotta deal
06:27:19 Devastator: well, that's Trenceworld.
06:27:51 Devastator: okay, short timeskip.
06:29:18 ER: a big guy
06:29:22 Devastator: chimera wolf and ooze.
06:29:42 Devastator: welp.
06:29:49 ER: amorphs are no joke
06:30:14 ER: hmm, can she only contract ice spirits?
06:30:29 Devastator: uh oh.
06:30:30 ER: and spirit knight is special because he can use all six?
06:30:39 Devastator: Might just have started with ice spirits.
06:30:45 Devastator: here in the ice forest of iceness.
06:31:24 Devastator: but no, I don't remember her ever using something else..
06:31:29 Devastator: maybe she can only do ice.
06:32:42 Devastator: uh oh.
06:32:49 ER: cold front, hot front
06:32:55 Devastator: was that a shield?
06:33:06 Devastator: snowboard.
06:33:07 ER: fuck yes ice board
06:33:11 syv: :D
06:33:49 Devastator: that's some ooze.
06:34:13 ER: the elements of nature are fighting
06:34:40 Devastator: Someone let the fleshhorror out.
06:34:56 Devastator: "That won't be necessary"
06:34:56 ER: that things is doubtlessly weak to fire
06:35:02 Devastator: oh yes.
06:36:11 ER: glom
06:36:32 ER: super elf
06:36:40 Devastator: Witch of Envy.
06:37:13 ER: this is what happens when a mage lets it all out
06:37:53 Devastator: Hello space laser.
06:38:04 ER: red sun
06:38:12 ER: red sun over paradise
06:39:06 ER: this fucker
06:39:11 Devastator: "This man has no brain."
06:39:33 ER: probably normal fore firemans
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06:40:04 Devastator: You know man, you can either lose, or you can lose and make her freeze you.
06:40:09 MidJag: lo
06:40:10 Devastator: Heya MJ.
06:40:12 MidJag: hiya dev
06:40:32 Devastator: just watching a witch fight a man made of fire.
06:40:38 MidJag: uhhhh
06:40:49 ER: don't be racist, fireman
06:40:55 MidJag: What is this from?
06:41:01 syv: He's kinda got a point
06:41:08 Devastator: Re: Zero OVA.
06:41:20 MidJag: Ah.
06:41:40 ER: of course a b12er would dislike elves
06:41:41 Devastator: She deliberately isolates herself from people, and lives with a great spirit who can keep her in check.
06:42:25 syv: Lots of crystals.
06:43:44 Devastator: "That won't be necessary"
06:43:48 Devastator: except I said that earlier, dammit.
06:44:29 Devastator: Right, Puck is a spirit that can end the world.
06:44:34 Devastator: no wonder he's friends with Emmy.
06:45:30 Devastator: KO
06:45:31 ER: don't fuck with a cat who can freeze the world to death
06:45:42 Devastator: who is best friends with the devil.
06:46:03 syv: Only half devil.
06:46:05 MidJag: Hey, I mean Cat's Cradel taught me to always do that~
06:47:31 ER: oh no, he's dead
06:47:36 syv: Paused
06:47:37 Devastator: Did he have another quarter?
06:47:37 ER: before the start of the main series
06:47:41 syv: 53:30
06:47:42 ER: he must be dead forever
06:47:47 Devastator: paused.
06:48:30 ER: I can't believe, that this character, who is in the main series, just fucking died, in a prequel
06:48:39 ER: for reals
06:49:16 ER: (paused)
06:49:24 Devastator: Yeah, I mean..
06:49:31 Devastator: not believable.
06:50:14 Devastator: although it makes life with a clown look much more attractive.
06:50:26 syv: Ready.
06:50:32 ER: clowyn
06:50:33 Devastator: and apparently she froze all her relatives.
06:50:36 Devastator: ready.
06:50:44 syv: ER?
06:50:46 ER: ready
06:50:49 syv: 5
06:50:50 syv: 4
06:50:51 syv: 3
06:50:53 syv: 2
06:50:54 syv: 1
06:50:55 syv: 0
06:51:09 Devastator: This guy needs some new lines.
06:51:17 Devastator: and Here Comes a New Challenger.
06:51:55 Devastator: Hah
06:52:56 Devastator: okay.
06:53:03 Devastator: so parents made contract with Puck?
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06:54:27 ER: there is no fate, but what we make for ourselves!
06:54:48 syv: "Let's form a contract!"
06:54:50 Devastator: "The power to change this lies within you."
06:54:58 ER: MAKE A CONTRACT WITH ME MOTHERFUCKER
06:55:45 Devastator: I do like how it's literally law that talking is a free action in this situation.
06:56:23 ER: I AM THOU, THOU ART I
06:56:42 Devastator: rawr.
06:56:49 syv: "Nobody will love you to the end of time quite like I will! Because if you die, I will END time."
06:56:56 Devastator: Yuppers.
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06:58:21 Devastator: "Look, I know I'm sealed evil in a can, but this can is a living person!"
06:58:42 Devastator: "I am not a number! I am a free man!"
07:00:17 Devastator: kaboom.
07:00:20 ER: so, puck was called "beast of the end"?
07:00:24 Devastator: Yeah.
07:00:26 syv: yep
07:00:33 Devastator: I mean, he did say he would end the world.
07:00:45 Devastator: Did someone tie TWO WORLD-DESTROYING THREATS TO EACH OTHER?
07:01:10 Devastator: the final season is going to be disentangling this stuff, isn't it?
07:01:11 ER: yes
07:03:17 syv: Big cat cute
07:03:31 Devastator: okay, so it's not literal then.
07:03:40 syv: :(
07:03:52 Devastator: don't worry, I'm sure we'll find out dad was like an elder dragon or something. ;-p
07:04:20 syv: Dad was some rando human with an elf fetish.
07:04:27 Devastator: I doubt it.
07:04:28 ER: seems fairly cold-immune
07:04:33 Devastator: There's just too much stuff wrapped up in her.
07:05:03 ER: came out of the ice with the hair ornament :P
07:05:06 Devastator: Plus season 2 showed that it's okay with ridiculously overcomplicated plots.
07:05:32 Devastator: ...
07:05:54 Devastator: I bet that scene means we're going to meet her actual parents then.
07:06:30 syv: And wearing nothing else.
07:06:41 ER: yes
07:06:44 Devastator: Maybe it spontaneously generated.
07:07:08 ER: clearly that means it's gonna end up being the one thing keeping the sealed evil in a can inside
07:07:35 Devastator: Well, we know her self-esteem is all that's doing it now.
07:07:37 Devastator: so maybe.
07:07:45 ER: hmm, are these credits really long, or is there someone after?
07:08:13 Devastator: bar shows an epilogue.
07:08:41 syv: https://sonocomics.tumblr.com/post/162752250207/these-are-the-things-i-think-aboutseriously-this
07:09:16 Devastator: Heh.
07:09:22 Devastator: I remember that.
07:09:31 ER: classic
07:09:32 Devastator: it's because hair accessories are the most indestructable things in anime.
07:09:45 Devastator: they define people, because animators only have one face.
07:10:19 ER: that's where the soul lives, so they say
07:11:02 syv: That must be why Sophia has a hat.
07:11:22 Devastator: https://64.media.tumblr.com/fef22d2a76f2a8948aa66dc21d51d673/tumblr_inline_ossrsrnU641rsoskq_500.png
07:11:36 ER: who are these people
07:11:50 Devastator: There's best girl, and her sister. And Radio calisthenics man.
07:12:12 ER: CLOWN
07:12:26 Devastator: I'm just glad someone acknowledged it.
07:12:28 Devastator: it's intentional.
07:13:06 Devastator: Aww.
07:13:45 Devastator: not too bad.
07:13:54 syv: Yup
07:14:00 ER: in accordance with my contract, i will now END THE WORLD
07:14:34 Devastator: Yes.
07:14:39 Devastator: wonder what the fine print says.
07:15:09 ER: clown man showed up for some shot at the end there, but I will still take this oppurunity to link this https://youtu.be/IzWsLaolyLw
07:15:32 syv: You know, someone set up a Morton's fork here.
07:15:42 syv: Elf lives? Elf destroys the world.
07:15:48 syv: Elf dies? Cat destroys the world.
07:15:57 Devastator: Yuppers.
07:16:03 ER: no, knight nukes him
07:16:20 ER: so I guess knight has to die at some point for it to work
07:16:20 syv: Oh hey!
07:16:21 Devastator: Eventually.
07:16:26 Devastator: but yeah.
07:16:29 syv: Puck had all his teeth, here.
07:16:39 Devastator: I think they exchanged a blow or two before that scene.
07:16:39 syv: He's got a cracked tooth in the main show.
07:16:49 Devastator: that's why puck's teeth were messed up in that scene.
07:16:58 Devastator: he bit, knight slashed.
07:17:01 Devastator: what was his name anyway?
07:17:02 ER: or at least, the speculative witch magic illusion timeline predicted that puck would get nuked by sword
07:17:23 ER: which probably means that greed calculated out the powerlevels~
07:17:50 ER: reinhard?
07:18:00 Devastator: Yeah, that was it.
07:18:13 Devastator: Greed did supposedly have like all the knowledge.
07:18:19 Devastator: she could do the powerlevels.
07:18:38 ER: not ALL of it, because learning everything was still her goal
07:18:53 Devastator: Mmm.
07:19:00 Devastator: There's always new knowledge.
07:19:28 ER: but I'd guess she has, say, the character sheets of every creature in realspace~
07:19:53 ER: so could simulate out a battle between anything
07:20:02 Devastator: Hah.
07:20:06 Devastator: "What do you want from me?"
07:20:19 Devastator: "Can you simulate a battle between X and Y?"
07:20:25 Devastator: Who would win?
07:21:11 ER: ten thousand lions vs all the pokemon
07:22:06 syv: God is a pokemonm so.
07:23:43 ER: don't most moves require pokemon-mana?
07:23:47 syv: Big puck calls the white whale "Gluttony".
07:23:52 syv: No?
07:24:09 syv: They have PP, but that's just stamina.
07:24:20 ER: heh heh
07:24:23 ER: peepee
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07:26:24 syv: https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/1/1d/Arceus_Judgment.png
07:26:33 syv: Arceus can do this ten times.
07:27:31 Devastator: mmm
07:27:56 syv: Also, pretty sure it gets that back on a long rest.
07:28:01 Devastator: how many mission-cycles would it take for the pokémon backup trainer to have enough wish-juice to be able to bring one of those into reality? ;-p
07:28:15 Devastator: 4?
07:28:17 syv: Lemme check
07:28:29 syv: Wait
07:28:36 syv: By what mechanism? Being a ward?
07:28:55 Devastator: yeah.
07:29:01 syv: Hrm.
07:29:04 Devastator: being a ward and juicing up that wish.
07:29:13 Devastator: I think you said that +1 would allow for some basic pokemon magic.
07:29:26 Devastator: +0 would just get you like the creatures.
07:31:34 ER: simply tangle enough fate around yourself that you can [s]become[/s] summon god
07:31:44 ER: but pokemon
07:31:47 Devastator: essentially.
07:31:55 syv: Five to eight depending on power interpretation of Arceus.
07:31:59 Devastator: Damn.
07:32:20 Devastator: That's more and less than I expected.
07:32:24 syv: Could be as low as three if you go more by the games.
07:32:38 Devastator: More for the low-end, less for 'own a pet LITERAL GOD'
07:32:57 Devastator: +2 or +3 sounds about right, then for that character, hmm.
07:33:02 syv: Think about it.
07:33:14 syv: Surviving eight labyrinths starts you at level *fifty*
07:33:29 ER: that's one thing I haven't really figured out
07:33:52 syv: ?
07:34:11 Devastator: my god.
07:34:23 Devastator: eight labs starts you at level 50? Damn.
07:34:30 Devastator: I mean, that's a ton of labs.
07:34:48 syv: 10 base plus five per.
07:34:56 ER: for Refine, I want it to be *possible* to get a "bacon eggs dogs remake the entire universe" wish, and for this to have happened many times before, but I'm not sure of any method to become that integrally tied to the strands of fate besides the Canon time travel nonsense
07:35:10 ER: and I feel like there should be other ways than just doing that
07:35:27 syv: And canonically this is a setting where someone who would start at 20 is a ridiculous one-in-a-trillion rarity.
07:36:08 syv: Which is being a ward for *two*.
07:36:26 syv: ER, want spoilers?
07:36:29 Devastator: makes sense.
07:36:37 ER: spoilers! :D
07:36:55 ER: I mean, I spoiled PM3 and it was still good, sure~
07:37:01 syv: Kay
07:39:06 Devastator: so nobody's ever pulled off the double ward thing before in-universe?
07:40:01 syv: In-universe, wards don't gain power for surviving labs. It's a stupid risky thing that you should never do, in terms of optimizing power.
07:40:21 syv: In PS, someone surviving labs retroactively implies they're special and exceptional.
07:40:38 syv: Someone who survives eight was destined to do so.
07:40:44 Devastator: ahh.
07:41:37 syv: But, canonically, they'd have been just as strong if they survived zero.
07:43:31 syv: ...PS has a really depressing setting.
07:43:48 Devastator: mmm.
07:43:52 ER: don't say
07:43:56 Devastator: well, alida's having a good time there.
07:43:57 syv: kay
07:44:02 Devastator: but yeah.
07:44:05 Devastator: can see that.
07:44:09 ER: oh yeah, but
07:44:23 ER: update when
07:44:52 syv shrugs
07:44:54 syv: Tomorrow?
07:45:00 ER: pog
08:04:43 MidJag_: how is it 2AM already?>
08:05:34 ER: time keeps on flowin', flowin', flowin', into the future
08:05:52 MidJag_: Damn.
08:06:08 MidJag_: I need that thing from harry potter. The time turner thing.
08:06:35 MidJag_: Sure it totally breaks causality, but like hey more time for thigns
08:06:52 Devastator: "Look, you know my homeworld? There they have devices that send people back in time. They gave one to a friend of mine so she could take more classes."
08:07:02 Devastator: (quoting from someone else's fanfic.) ;-p
08:07:44 ER: here, small child
08:07:55 ER: have this world-ending dangerous artifact
08:08:07 syv: A teacher gave it to her, IIRC.
08:08:12 ER: so that you can overextend yourself and burn out harder than the laws of physics allow
08:08:21 syv: I *really* like the fan theory that magic is lead poisoning.
08:08:31 syv: Slowly drives you insane.
08:08:50 syv: And stupid.
08:09:09 MidJag_: Really very little of HP's universe makes sense
08:10:35 syv: I see HP, I think either Hit Points or Howard Phillips
08:10:57 MidJag_: heh
08:12:37 Devastator: potterverse.
08:12:46 MidJag_: But yeah, when I read that book, I really wanted time turners to exsist, ever back then I always wanted more time.
08:13:03 MidJag_: That desire has only increased really.
08:16:33 MidJag_: Hmm, you know what was something I always kinda wonderd about in harry potter? Why the main villian never uses guns. Like they seem to work about as well as avada kadabra
08:16:45 MidJag_: And there aren't really a lot of other killing spells.
08:17:16 ER: that's cuz they're brits
08:17:20 MidJag_: heh
08:17:29 MidJag_: Even evil wizards respect gun laws~
08:17:46 ER: if it were in america you'd have hundreds of gun wizards blasting the shit out of each other 24-7 instead of a proper society
08:19:11 MidJag_: Imagine this. https://youtu.be/67tL3odu440?t=20
08:20:02 MidJag_: That guy has the most modded p90 I've ever seen.
08:20:44 ER: https://gunshowcomic.com/30
08:21:48 Devastator: yes
08:26:07 MidJag_: Damn, I kinda want to see gun wizards now
08:26:40 ER: well, refer to like half of the setting ideas I've ever had
08:27:06 MidJag_: True
08:27:36 MidJag_: Really telekensis just exsits to hold up more guns than you have arms
08:28:01 Devastator: syv?
08:28:03 Devastator: that true?
08:29:20 ER: I solve practical problems. Like "how am I gonna keep some big mean mother-hubbard from tearin' me a structurally superfluous new behind?" the answer? use a gun.
08:29:30 ER: and if that don't work? use more gun.
08:30:31 Devastator: mmm
08:30:32 MidJag_: It's still weird how old TF2 is and it still looks pretty good. Advantage of stylized animation I guess
08:32:19 Devastator: yuppers.
08:32:24 Devastator: and concentrating on animation.
08:35:10 syv: Hrm?
08:35:17 syv: Oh, yes.
08:36:10 syv: Specifically exists for/because of this: https://static.zerochan.net/Tomoe.Mami.full.1065376.jpg
08:36:21 Devastator: oh yes.
08:36:37 Devastator: sadly, I don't think CC4 can be used through TK.
08:36:47 Devastator: although that does make sense.
08:37:13 syv: Sure it can. The strength boost just doesn't apply to the TK
08:37:20 ER: gunz
08:37:21 syv: But CC is only like half strength.
08:37:27 Devastator: ahh.
08:37:42 Devastator: admittedly, strength is a good chunk of the reason to use it.
08:37:43 ER: thanks, gun godz
08:37:50 Devastator: but makes sense.
08:38:02 Devastator: Kyoko had her weapon in her hand.
08:38:09 ER: what power gives me YV's right click
08:38:20 syv: Sayaka had her weapon in her hands.
08:38:27 syv: Even Mami hit stuff with guns a lot.
08:38:36 syv: Time stop, ER.
08:38:50 ER: mm, makes sense
08:38:52 ER: pop pop
08:39:44 syv: Maybe I should've given TS more scaling, so you could use it for five seconds or whatever.
08:40:45 syv: It
08:41:00 syv: 's just so ridiciulously strong with the right setup...
08:41:21 Devastator: mmm.
08:41:25 Devastator: "You can manipulate two points of contact independantly without difficulty, and additionally, telekinetic contact counts for any powers which require physical contact or similar."
08:41:36 Devastator: Maybe CC strength does work through tk.
08:41:45 syv: No, CC gives your body strength.
08:41:54 syv: That means stuff like Mercy's powers.
08:42:03 Devastator: yeah.
08:42:06 Devastator: well, it isn't bad, just..
08:42:08 syv: And also applies to things like TM or w/e
08:42:13 Devastator: there's also other stuff to use.
08:42:19 ER: hmm, Empathy?
08:42:27 syv: Yeh
08:42:39 ER: ranged Dark Hand people...
08:42:54 syv: Loves are kinda terrifying.
08:44:36 Devastator: Yes.
08:44:42 Devastator: so are most MGs, to be honest.
08:44:51 Devastator: every single one of them could be a horrifying monster, should she so desire.
08:44:57 ER: too bad that my first char got eated by the test game ;p
08:45:17 ER: and will be, whether she wants to or not~
08:45:31 Devastator: heh
08:45:34 Devastator: "Too Thunderdome."
08:45:50 syv: Brave: Invulnerable swarm of berserk ghosts
08:45:54 syv: Joy: nuke
08:46:27 Devastator: Cre, no need to go further.
08:46:30 syv: Mercy: Unmakes souls and reality
08:46:33 ER: Arcane meter only goes up
08:46:35 syv: Cre is fleshorror...
08:46:59 Devastator: Inn is hardest, but teleportation is horrifying.
08:47:04 syv: Purity summons herself as satan, and also mind controls you.
08:47:15 Devastator: statis people's hearts.
08:47:19 syv: Innocence just stops time, teleports to you, and shoots you in the face/gem
08:47:22 ER: I was toying with the idea of using MC III to rewrite someone's memories with only terror
08:47:50 ER: presumably leaving enough that they can go and spread the word
08:50:24 Devastator: mmm.
08:50:28 Devastator: combine MC with fearwolf.
08:51:48 Devastator: nah, need to scare lots of people, not one person.
08:53:16 ER: yeah, my big powers are "fuck everything" and "fuck that guy in particular"
08:55:11 Devastator: good powers.
08:55:13 Devastator: covers all bases.
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10:04:23 syv: Won a match of Surviv.
10:04:30 Devastator: hey, nice.
10:04:34 Devastator: could fire that up if you want teams.
10:04:49 syv: Killed a guy using a PKP while he was hiding from someone else, stole it and reloaded it, used it to finish the guy he was fighting.
10:04:52 syv: Sure.
10:04:55 Devastator: lovely.
10:05:05 Devastator: you want to 'host?'
10:05:10 syv: #Gx4z
10:05:34 syv: ready>
10:05:39 syv: ?
10:05:40 Devastator: `1
10:12:11 syv: Well that was easy.
10:12:13 Devastator: not too bad.
10:12:14 syv: Empty server.
10:12:16 Devastator: I think you took 4 damage.
10:12:31 syv: 8x
10:12:32 Devastator: yeah, we killed five of six opponents.
10:12:46 syv: Ready?
10:12:49 Devastator: next time, I gotta use the OTS. ;-p
10:12:51 Devastator: `1
10:18:30 Devastator: should jump on squads.
10:18:33 Devastator: more people there.
10:18:46 syv: Alright.
10:18:48 syv: Ready?
10:18:48 Devastator: two kills that weren't us.
10:18:50 Devastator: `1
10:24:02 syv: The M134 seems a little OP
10:24:10 Devastator: It is, yes.
10:24:15 Devastator: and rougher getting ambushed by it.
10:24:16 syv: Ready?
10:24:19 Devastator: `1
10:30:59 syv: Wooo
10:31:01 Devastator: that was more like it.
10:31:04 Devastator: Need a minute.
10:31:11 syv: Alright
10:31:14 ER: gunz
10:31:48 syv: Two DPs is really something.
10:32:03 syv: You'd think it wouldn't be that good in squads, because they get four guns.
10:32:08 syv: But nobody knows what teamwork is.
10:32:23 Devastator: Eh.
10:32:30 Devastator: The only good team was on the lower left, coming out of the bank.
10:32:39 Devastator: and I got two of them badly with a bit of a lucky grenade.
10:32:46 ER: sleepy
10:32:48 Devastator: but yes, don't know teamwork.
10:32:57 Devastator: also, two whole not-us kills again.
10:33:12 Devastator: I'm ready.
10:33:28 syv: Alright
10:33:32 ER: game still sucks because it makes me create an account to set a nick
10:33:35 ER: bad game
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10:40:16 Devastator: that guy was trying solos.
10:40:22 Devastator: bad luck drawing us.
10:40:23 syv: He was carrying his team.
10:40:31 Devastator: nah, I think that guy was a solo.. but maybe, yeah.
10:40:41 Devastator: Yeha, I see.
10:40:42 syv: I think the three behind him were incompetent teammates.
10:40:43 Devastator: had a team.
10:40:50 Devastator: he's the guy with the 711 damage dealt.
10:40:50 syv: Defended fhem well.
10:41:04 Devastator: yeah, tried hard.
10:41:07 Devastator: how was the autoshotty?
10:41:12 syv: Terrible.
10:41:16 Devastator: Hah. Sorry.
10:41:22 Devastator: I'll take it if we find another.
10:41:24 Devastator: ready?
10:41:25 syv: I'm never good with shotguns. I like them, but not good.
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10:44:02 er: <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
10:44:12 er: Good night
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10:45:15 syv: Night, ER
10:46:11 syv: Damn, Dev.
10:46:14 Devastator: nuts.
10:46:23 Devastator: bad play. Should have reloaded the dual and ditched the OT.
10:46:24 syv: Trying to 1v3 with a revolver and double shotty? O.o
10:46:26 Devastator: could have gotten that one guy.
10:46:34 Devastator: and thrown a mine, not a nade.
10:46:43 Devastator: ready
10:46:48 syv: Pause, clouds
10:46:52 Devastator: if I had one down, could have gotten the lot of them.
10:48:15 syv: Back
10:48:20 syv: Startibg
10:48:23 Devastator: readdy
10:53:54 Devastator: dang.
10:53:56 syv: 8x is op
10:53:59 Devastator: I knew the other guy was low, but not THAT low.
10:54:01 syv: Also VSS
10:54:07 syv: Out of heals
10:54:10 Devastator: Not my taste, the VSS.
10:54:16 syv: I love it.
10:54:20 Devastator: Heh.
10:54:23 syv: It's perfect for my role.
10:54:29 Devastator: only sniper I can use ok is the SV-98
10:54:36 Devastator: ready
11:00:28 Devastator: What was that?
11:00:30 syv: Yeah, M134 is bullshir
11:00:36 Devastator: Ahh.
11:00:37 Devastator: yeah, it is.
11:00:45 Devastator: killed someone who had it before.. but yes, it's bullshit.
11:00:51 syv: Was focuing on the DP so I could pull it out sudden like that
11:00:55 syv: Need to check again, brb
11:00:58 Devastator: it really works, doesn't it?
11:01:24 Devastator: surprising people?
11:01:46 syv: Back.
11:01:55 Devastator: I think last one.
11:01:59 syv: I didn't actually expect it to just pop the barrel instantly like that. But yeah/
11:02:10 syv: Ok
11:09:09 syv: Wow.
11:09:12 syv: Just wow.
11:09:16 Devastator: It's a weapon you MUST attack.
11:09:19 syv: Literally waiting to die.
11:09:20 Devastator: and must attack correctly.
11:09:22 Devastator: can't sit there.
11:09:23 Devastator: you die.
11:09:29 syv: They *saw* that you dropped it.
11:09:30 Devastator: and yeah.
11:09:37 syv shakes his head
11:09:40 Devastator: I hit a mine.
11:09:43 Devastator: only reason I went down.
11:09:55 Devastator: anyway, think that's enough.
11:09:57 Devastator: thanks.
11:10:03 syv: Thanks for playing.
11:10:06 syv: That was great fun.
11:10:08 Devastator: Always happy to play that.
11:10:13 Devastator: can't believe we found two of those on two rounds.
11:10:20 Devastator: first time I got it it came out of a normal crate.
11:10:35 Devastator: that time it was out of the three-path bunker. The crate that usually has a vector.
11:12:39 syv: Might be some kinda rate up.
11:12:43 syv: We encounted one too.
11:12:59 syv: You seem to be very right that rando squads don't split up.
11:13:08 Devastator: Ran into one guy who did that.
11:13:11 Devastator: but that was it.
11:13:13 syv: Feels like the map is just empty and we can both find a good kit without trouble.
11:13:20 Devastator: they almost always stick together.
11:15:04 Devastator: means they never have enough boosters and often only have one good weapon for the whole team.
11:15:37 syv: "Squad mode is the mode if you want to fight against weak mooks"
11:16:30 Devastator: yeah. Many of the sharps seem to play solos.
11:16:42 Devastator: which is why it's so annoying when they team up.
11:17:23 syv: Reasonable.
11:17:40 syv: A lotta newbies and low skill people would enjoy being able to rely on teammates.
11:18:01 syv: Hah, like that guy who was defending all three useless teammates who kept retreating.
11:19:07 Devastator: yeah.
11:21:53 Devastator: had some good nade tosses.
11:22:00 Devastator: got someone with one I cooked while they were under a house.
11:22:17 Devastator: saw them go down the far stairs, started cooking, and they tried to run past it.
11:22:19 Devastator: boom.
11:24:17 syv: I never remember to use nades. :(
11:25:26 Devastator: heh.
11:25:30 Devastator: I'm a bit too nade-happy.
11:25:32 Devastator: so it balances out.
11:26:11 syv: Should drop them for you, then. ;P
11:27:58 Devastator: usually I have enough.
11:28:02 Devastator: even with the excess of mines.
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