00:00:50 syv: Okay, fully set up now. Was only able to half follow until now.
00:01:43 syv: There is SO MUCH information onscreen constantly
00:02:16 syv: ...Also a very notable aleph map.
00:05:46 syv: "Escorting", but you're still in a mostly unarmed scout?
00:07:19 syv: Okayl definitely not unarmed
00:09:46 syv: Watched the construction RTS view
00:14:25 syv: Right up until you ripcorded to the bomber, I thought you were *losing*
00:30:28 syv: Yeah, they seemed to be losing handily
00:31:23 syv: The awesome bit was the RTS view of the constructor coming in, with the whole fight
00:31:41 syv: Then the last-second (?) ram knocking it out of place
00:31:42 Devastator: yeah, that was sweet. ALmost thought the last rammer would have stopped it.
00:31:49 Devastator: didn't quite make it miss the rock.
00:31:58 Devastator: if he'd rammed it two seconds earlier forcing it to line up again, it would have lost.
00:32:06 syv: Oh, so that was a successful construction?
00:32:21 Devastator: if it goes in and the sphere thing starts, it builds.
00:32:41 syv: Hehe, only just now heard you explaining how it works on voice.
00:33:16 syv: Also, most of the fighter combat was awesome too. And the nanning.
00:34:00 syv: This really is pretty awesome. I don't really understand, but it's clear there's a bunch of solid rapid planning going on, along side this frantic chaos.
00:34:09 syv: An accurate warfare simulator, I suppose~
00:37:54 syv: I had thought the build sphere was an *explosion*
00:41:20 syv: A bit confusing that team color seems to be based on faction, not standard colors.
00:41:35 syv: Keep thinking yellow is enemy, since you were shooting at yellows last round.
00:45:13 syv: Aaaaahhhh stream paused right as you started killing a mine
00:47:18 syv: I guess fighter is generalist hunter, while interceptor is specialized for player killing?
00:47:31 syv: So fighter's good for miner hunting, int is good for defending them.
00:48:49 syv: That guy was surprised, I imagine.
00:55:30 syv: Oooof, that looked like you saved the miner by the skin of your teeth
00:57:41 syv: Is a pulse probe a scanning thing to help you spot cloaked enemies?
01:02:19 syv: Destroyed something before--oh, you say it doesn't matter.
01:02:57 syv: God, interceptor just deletes people
01:04:03 syv: It's fascinating to try and keep track of the tactics and planning.
01:04:35 syv: I don't follow all of it (you just explained why you're defending), but I follow enough for it to be interesting.
01:05:29 syv: Terran seems a bit overwhelmed? Not really sure
01:06:30 syv: Just delete several enemy ships suddenly~
01:06:38 syv: "Welp, they should resign now"
01:07:54 syv: Terran got *sixteen* kills?
01:10:52 Devastator: for a while we were playing five on seven.
01:10:56 Devastator: comm NEEDS to fly there.
01:11:24 Devastator: and terran is terraaltha@RT, back in the day, and is really good at that.
01:11:46 syv: That would be why he seemed overwhelmed, I imagine.
01:12:21 syv: He got sixteen kills AND was comm.
01:12:28 syv: Kill leader and actual leader.
01:13:02 syv: 100v100 would just break, I feel.
01:13:10 syv: The amount of DPS going places...
01:13:25 syv: And you have too limited income to actually have much in the way of bombers, I'd guess?
01:15:33 syv: I just figure that if you had 100 guns shooting--or hell, 50--a bomber is just done.
01:17:02 syv: Yeah, and if that happens, then what do you do?
01:17:08 syv: Play a bunch of fighter bombers...?
01:18:29 syv: Hey, you're two-for-two in terms of what I've seen tonight.
01:18:41 syv: If you lose, it's something new for me~
01:23:09 syv: Thaaaat's not a good start. Just got podded.
01:28:49 syv: Two seconds from ripcording.
01:31:20 syv: Can you loot the stuff that was in someone's cargo after killing them?
01:32:14 syv: So when people yell that they need turret gunners, do they really mean nans?
01:32:53 syv: Playing *these* nans seems pretty boring. No hair~
01:32:59 syv: ...And you get deleted immediately.
01:34:57 syv: Going for an aleph, all normal--HOLY SHIT TAC CARRIER
01:37:32 syv: Doesn't seem like it accomplished much for a capship.
01:44:11 syv: "Might be a sup rock in their home"
01:45:51 syv: What happened there when you nanned a bomber and fired some missiles right after going through an aleph?
01:46:03 syv: You blew something up, and laughed?
01:49:15 syv: Type responses to chat stuff, don'tt alk
01:49:21 Devastator: That was an enemy capital ship.
01:49:29 Devastator: it got blown up by a nanned bomber.
01:50:00 Devastator: I think the bomber pilot got it with an anti-base missile, which does good damage.
01:50:39 Devastator: a bunch of fighter bombers is when you do figbee runs, everyone has a figbee. When in bombers, you have nanites with the extra players.
01:50:49 Devastator: but it was reasonable given how the enemy base was SO CLOSE to the entry point there.
01:50:53 Devastator: meant more missiles on it faster.
01:51:10 Devastator: turret gunners means turrets. Anyone who can't get on a turret, then nans.
01:51:29 syv: How many turrets does a bomber have?
01:51:46 Devastator: I thought that was a drone carrier, a purchaseable unit that you order around. A tactical carrier is a player-flied carrier capship with capship turrets.
01:51:46 syv: Was the entire team on those bombing runs?
01:52:27 Devastator: sup rock in their home is because, when possible, you expand to bases outside of your home. If you lose that base, but have the right kind of rock to replace it at home, you generally do so.
01:52:43 Devastator: nanning a bomber and blowing up the enemy was killing a capship with a bomber, which is fun.
01:52:57 Devastator: bombers have two turrets max.
01:53:15 Devastator: and basically the entire team? It was 5 on 5.
01:53:18 Devastator: that's how that goes down.
01:53:46 Devastator: Alleg is a hell of a game.
01:53:55 syv: You joked about how it's SC but your units hate you.
01:53:56 Devastator: a 5v5 is basically the bottom tier of alleg games!
01:54:05 Devastator: it's about the absolute minimum for any kind of gameplay.
01:54:18 syv: But it seems more like SC where your units are very smart, and are mini commanders for the NPCs.
01:54:29 Devastator: That's these latter days.
01:54:34 syv: Like when you were doing miner and ordered the miner around.
01:54:39 Devastator: every single person in this game has 300 hours, mostly with each other.
01:55:02 Devastator: at a minimum. Kaldor there has more like 2000.
01:55:12 Devastator: Ten Forward has more.
01:55:22 Devastator: End the fed was a jackass who reformed, and has about 5-600.
01:55:37 Devastator: I'm the least experienced player in this game today.
01:55:49 Devastator: well, looks like one more.
01:55:52 Devastator: I'll give this a shot.
01:56:07 syv: You're making yourself look too good~
02:02:57 syv: His advantage because you were on offense.
02:06:05 syv: Aww, was hoping I'd get to see tureet gameplay.
02:06:44 syv: This map is looking weird.
02:09:04 syv: Honestly even with you dying it's hard to tell you're bad at dogfighting.
02:12:19 syv: The lag made me lose most of the bomber fight. :(
02:14:01 syv: Sweet, more turret gameplay.
02:19:22 syv: Jeez, that was 10F who screwed that up.
02:19:28 syv: And you say he's over 2k hours?
02:20:03 syv: Aaaand Terran gets his revenge.
02:21:10 syv: Hrm, stream dropped for a min. My internet, I think.
02:25:44 syv: Just spamming bombers, huh.
02:28:09 syv: Jeez, their defense is rock hard.
02:33:26 syv: What was wrong with killing the tele?
02:37:10 syv: Baaaaaah and lag again >.<
02:38:04 syv: Aaaand right into a chase with Terran
02:39:57 syv: It's amusing to see *you* of all people using ;-;
02:41:06 syv: Damn, they only have stuff in two areas?
02:41:29 syv: Unbreakable defense, but no area. I'd assume no economy
02:42:38 syv: Yeah, you now have EVERY area except for two
02:46:24 syv: Your position seems *really* dominant here.
02:47:17 syv: I assume there's a heavy. What's THAT like?
02:47:40 syv: How does Terran keep just showing up with high KB?
02:47:52 syv: You kill him, he's zero, then two minutes later he's 20+
02:52:00 syv: With a team of like five people?
02:54:41 syv: After damn near wiping the enemy team and having full health
02:59:05 syv: Also you're 4 for 4 on games I'm speccing.
02:59:31 Devastator: I've actually played on that one.
02:59:37 Devastator: this the version with the big rock in the middle?
03:00:14 Devastator: also, interceptors are defensive.
03:00:21 Devastator: hard to win with them, hard to win against them.
03:00:21 syv: I think that's the last game to watch for me.
03:00:24 Devastator: hence the rock solid defense.
03:00:27 syv: But it's been fascinating.
03:00:28 Devastator: then I'm gonna skip out too.
03:01:42 Devastator: I hope you get why I feel Alleg is the best game ever made. ;-p
03:03:15 syv: I parsed one of those as a typo, because you paused for a couple seconds before typing the p
03:03:49 syv: So it was ;- and my brain autocompleted it before I saw the full thing.
03:03:51 Devastator: everyone screws stuff up sometimes.
03:04:19 syv: But yeah, Alleg certainly seems like the best game in its genre, whatever that is.
03:04:46 Devastator: It's got the space-sim / multiplayer RTS gameplay down.
03:05:21 Devastator: I was losing early today a lot.
03:05:26 syv: I suppose you're all experienced, so that's why everyone seems to be junior comms, but while watching I was thinking I'd just constantly be confused if I tried to play.
03:05:42 Devastator: It takes time, that's all.
03:05:51 Devastator: used to train people, fwiw.
03:05:55 Devastator: and the game is free.
03:06:08 Devastator: but really, it's about a week of flying around before stuff starts clicking.
03:06:15 syv: I know. You taught me a little bit of basic stuff, years ago!
03:06:31 syv: And I read a fair bit of the wiki. It's why I could follow anything at all.
03:06:50 syv: Honestly I'd be happy to try and get in if I could play at home.
03:07:21 Devastator: you seem to be following it pretty well.
03:07:43 syv: But I can only really play MP stuff seriously at work, and this is a game where it'd be really bad if I had to regularly just go AFK for a minute to check the clouds.
03:08:04 syv: "Oh, one of my two nans just disappeared."
03:08:16 Devastator: the game is completely intended for very, very shitty connections.
03:08:44 Devastator: it's not insane, but back in the day I had shitty net and 350 pings.
03:09:00 Devastator: developed to see if you can run an action MMO game on 28.8
03:09:04 Devastator: ahh, yeah, that's rough.
03:09:23 Devastator: well, I might check back tomorrow.
03:09:26 Devastator: that went really well.
03:09:30 Devastator: and there's a holiday, so..
03:09:36 syv: I have cell too, but it's more unreliable and spotty. Sometimes it just starts dropping every fifteen mins.
03:09:44 Devastator: if you want more, lemme know.
03:09:49 Devastator: thanks for watching.
03:09:54 syv: But maybe I should download it and we could, like, run an empty match or two?
03:10:06 syv: Just fly around and see how it works with my net?
03:10:24 Devastator: oh, and the cap ripped out because the enemy was attacking our supremacy.
03:10:31 Devastator: and we would have had to kill that too if they captured it.
03:10:48 syv: Were they using the troop transport ships?
03:11:22 Devastator: that's the expansion complex's offensive method.
03:11:34 syv: Capturing a base would swing things a lot, I'd expect.
03:11:39 Devastator: tac has stealth bombers, sup has figbees and the advanced bombing tech.
03:11:43 Devastator: it is, but you don't get all the tech.
03:12:08 syv: Do you have to get the transport into the landing bay specifically?
03:12:47 Devastator: you have to knock the enemy base's shields offline and then dock.
03:12:57 syv: And can people ram you away?
03:13:24 Devastator: they can also ram you INTO the dock, too.
03:14:48 Devastator: actually, they missed capturing our exp by about three seconds, fwiw.
03:15:57 syv: Would they have been able to turn that match around, you think?
03:16:07 Devastator: we would have blown the exp and won anyway.
03:19:20 syv: Yeah, you had way too much of an eco advantage?
03:19:53 Devastator: Pretty much, but they had adv tech and our team sucked at finishing it.
03:20:06 Devastator: giga is intended to do that, however.
03:21:19 Devastator: It's why they get $500 improved small ships at adv tech and the luxury cruisers.
03:21:25 Devastator: because their free stuff kinda sucks.
03:22:03 Devastator: I'm not sure about the luxury bombers, they didn't exist back in the day. I'll have to look them up.
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03:37:36 Devastator: I'm trying to remember if I sent the guy an e-mail about that or not.
03:37:42 Devastator: it would have been years ago.
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03:44:33 sy: What's the Skyrim pic about..?
03:46:18 Devastator: found that particular thing years ago.
03:54:08 sy: Alleg is up to 1.3 gigs, huh.
03:54:19 sy: Last I recall downloading it, it was sub 1 gig
03:54:57 Devastator: Steam added a bunch, and they made various higher-res packs mandatory.
04:02:35 sy: 1.3 GB is nothing these days.
04:02:50 sy: A lot of *visual novels* bigger than that.
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04:59:12 Devastator: ahh, the old anti-walkthroughs. Shame they are another relic of the past.
04:59:47 Devastator: getting quest items before talking to the questgiver.. ahh.
05:01:13 Devastator: passing the test of avoiding being blown off a balance beam by drugging yourself unconscious so you fall down, which means you can't be moved.
05:03:04 Devastator: "If you are getting weak, have the Avatar sleep standing up, balanced on a log, over some lava at over 2000 degrees centigrade. It works wonders."
05:07:20 Devastator: not really the sort of thing that can be done through forum games, sadly.
05:09:03 sy: As in do the opposite of what's smart?
05:10:41 Devastator: complete the game in the dumbest way possible.
05:11:37 sy: No, can't *quite* think of anything modern like that.
05:18:42 Devastator: should I do another testgame update?
05:18:59 sy: Uhh, last one was scouting the criminal den, right?
05:19:09 sy: Yeah, I don't have anything to add beyond
ER's action.
05:19:59 Devastator: probably wanted to avoid the talk about alleg.
05:20:13 Devastator: can't blame someone for that.
05:20:37 sy: Mm, no. I sent him art from Saki when I woke up.
05:20:50 sy: He hasn't responded, which is weird.
05:21:24 sy: Maybe his family did something special, so he just hasn't been on the comp.
05:22:17 Devastator: sometimes things step away.
05:22:21 Devastator: more of buster catgirl?
05:22:59 sy: Sorta... closer to chibi than her usual stuff. Much cute.
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21:35:31 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
21:35:31 Topic set by syv [Tuesday 29 September 2020, 08:56:47]
21:39:55 Devastator: oh,
syv, here's the string leading up to last years anniversary game.
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22:19:45 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
22:19:45 Topic set by syv [Tuesday 29 September 2020, 08:56:47]
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22:30:49 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
22:30:49 Topic set by syv [Tuesday 29 September 2020, 08:56:47]
22:40:51 Devastator: The formal anniversary game is the one that starts with the pick pool.
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