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02:42:50 Devastator: ryu is still good at mario.
02:43:30 MidJag_: Ryu could be missing both hands and operating the controller with his tongue and nose still be better at mario then I am.
02:43:32 Devastator: but still good at mario.
03:05:22 Devastator: Chuck at SFDebris finally caught up after literal years of delayed requests, due to various crisis and having to move hosting services around.
03:05:39 Devastator: Just started doing movies again. Did Lilo and Stich last week..
03:05:42 Devastator: this week, Idiocracy.
03:09:38 Devastator: very long running video review site.
03:09:44 Devastator: from about 2008-ish.
03:09:52 Devastator: does not do things like a modern youtuber.
03:09:53 MidJag_: That is long running then
03:10:02 MidJag_: Hmm, sounds intresting
03:10:04 Devastator: lots of stuff currently missing due to various hosting changes.
03:10:11 Devastator: Also why I watched PMMM.
03:10:18 Devastator: I trust that guy's reviews.
03:10:41 Devastator: watched it and hit the finish saying how good it was and how it challenged him as both a viewer and a reviewer.
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03:13:10 syv: Exquisite Rotations Eternally Recur Everywhere, Ralph.
03:13:22 ER: I tried to get into a game of remastest but didn't manage to
03:14:17 syv: I found out that they've made a hack for pirated copies of PTDE, so anyone can play Remastest multiplayer, for free.
03:14:39 syv: But only with other people who use the hack.
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03:24:26 syv: So fun fact: all weapons have the same carry animation in the left hand, even if that would be highly impractical. You hold Zweihanders the same as daggers, in the left hand. Only lighter right hand weapons are held that way.
03:24:27 syv: Estocs, bastard swords, and balder side swords are all the same length, and visually look *very* similar. The estoc and BSS in fact look just identical. This is despite them all having TOTALLY different damage and animations.
03:25:53 syv: So I made a dual wield char that has all three of these equiped, with a bastard sword (slow, high damage, can block decently) in the left hand, a BSS (fast-ish, medium damage, versatile) in the right hand, and estocs (fast, somewhat weak but stabby and can parry) in both hands as secondaries.
03:26:26 MidJag_: So is thar a vanilla thing? or just for this mod?
03:26:44 syv: This is all vanilla actually, but it's much more practical in the mod.
03:27:13 syv: All of these are *also* short, so this is a bit too vulnerable to backstabs, normally.
03:28:48 syv: The nice thing here is if I switch often, my opponent can't really predict what I'll do next. I have a ridiculous variety of attacks to use, and all my weapons look identical, so it's hard to tell which ones I'm holding,
03:29:08 syv: The disadvantage is that I do very crappy damage, since I'm onehanding lights.
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03:30:05 ER: tiny being ring regen seemed to be very slow, i swapped it for cloranthy
03:30:18 Devastator: computer burnt some dust, had to reboot.
03:30:18 ER: Leo still might be good tho
03:30:52 syv: Leo plus long spear (SKS is best) is upsettingly good.
03:31:10 syv: Nothing to do against shields, though.
03:32:13 syv: Slow reload compared to other crossbows, *and* longer fire animation.
03:58:32 Devastator: Chuck got broken by the timing of his movie reviews.
03:58:36 Devastator: Did contagion last year.
03:58:48 Devastator: did Idocracy right now, after years of delay.
03:59:03 Devastator: is now desperately worried what will be going on when Planet of the Apes comes up next.
03:59:09 Devastator: was finalizing his script on Jan 6th.
04:13:30 Devastator: I should check when planet of the apes does come up.
06:13:45 MidJag_: god that's insanity, the full version of COD take like a third of the PS5s avliable storage. That's kinda nuts
06:14:53 MidJag_: COD needs to go on a diet, it's too fat.
06:15:32 MidJag_: I'm kinda curious how it's so big
06:15:41 Devastator: it's always textures.
06:16:09 MidJag_: There are a lot of very fancy textures in the game I'll give them that.
06:17:21 MidJag_: So are there no cross play restrictions on like XBOX and Playstation games anymore?
06:18:25 Devastator: so console FPS players can go up against mouse users?
06:19:16 MidJag_: I like not dying endlessly to people with an actualy prescicise aiming
06:19:33 syv: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
06:19:40 syv: Attach a mouse to your console.
06:20:30 MidJag_: I've always wondered if you could make a more prescise aiming stick thats essentially just a mouse that doesnt look stupid.
06:20:42 syv: I recall reading about how there was a similar problem for some PvP mobile games. Except, people were using *controllers*.
06:20:59 syv: Because touch screens are just the worst.
06:21:33 MidJag_: Yeah touch screens are kinda terrible for most games.
06:21:33 syv:
MJ, I think that'd be difficult. Mice aren't just precise, they've got a lot of travel room.
06:21:49 syv: Basically you can make arm movements and wrist movements.
06:21:55 Devastator: better aiming devices than a mouse have been tried.
06:22:11 Devastator: There really aren't any, although there are still trackball fanatics.
06:22:31 Devastator: mice are quicker than guns.
06:22:33 syv: I've used trackballs. They're terrible.
06:22:45 Devastator: Agreed, but there are mad lads.
06:23:05 ER: nah, if you built something where you have a mouse controlling a robotic arm holding a rifle rather than holding it yourself, you'd probably win all the firefights
06:23:29 MidJag_: I've tried a trackball once and hated it.
06:23:36 Devastator: might as well cheat, then.
06:23:43 ER: just walk around with mech arms and a little desk attached to your chest
06:24:02 Devastator: You know what the people who control killer drones use?
06:25:17 MidJag_: Didn't the israleis make a drone that has like a gamepad as a controller?
06:28:18 ER: we use literally xbox controllers
06:33:51 MidJag_: Really considering how tank turrets work game pad does make sense
06:35:57 MidJag_: hmm, fuck I just realized I'm kinda overwriting this project
06:36:38 MidJag_: I have to write a paper on Boeings managmanet style for that managment class I'm taking.
06:37:29 MidJag_: The minimum lenth is half a page and the maximum is a page and a half, so I'm shooting for a page, and I already have a 1/2 page with just the first part, of which there 3 other parts
06:38:33 MidJag_: Fucking science writing, I'm broken now I don't know how to not give a ton of details and overexaplin everythign
06:40:13 MidJag_: You konw I can't spell
dev~
06:47:50 syv: And has either poor coverage or is cripplingly heavy, I'm sure...
06:48:32 syv: I like how they just put an anti-tank missile as the first image.
06:48:53 MidJag_: I want exo suits to happen sometime damnit.
06:50:36 ER: the main problem is that you're a technical glitch away from having it break your joints~
06:51:06 MidJag_: Yes, but that's why they make surgeons and programmers, to fix the joints and then the bugs~
06:51:31 syv: Yeah, this is just Russia bragging emptily, probably more to their own people than anyone.
06:51:49 Devastator: what's the lightest load you can put in a 50 cal,
syv?
06:52:33 MidJag_: HMm, that would be a problem if China invades Taiwan
06:52:36 syv: Dunno, off the top of my head. I mean, if you make custom loads, there's little stopping you from making a bullet that'll be weaker than pistol rounfs.
06:53:03 syv: I usually look at Wikipedia for information on various common loads, which isn't ideal.
06:53:23 MidJag_: I know theres like a .50 that fits in AR.
06:53:36 MidJag_: Called like Grendel? Or Bewoulf. One of the two
06:53:44 syv: It's true that basic AR500 plates, which you can already put in vests, can stop softer 50 cal shots.
06:53:50 MidJag_: Maybe the guns called grendel the ammo's beworoulf?
06:54:01 syv: No, Grendel is a different caliber.
06:54:22 syv: 50 Beowulf is indeed a fifty, but is much weaker and very different. There's a lot of those.
06:55:12 syv: 50 AE, 500 SW, 12.7x55, etc
06:55:20 syv: All waaaaay weaker than 50 BMG.
06:56:56 MidJag_: Hmm, I do wonder what happens if China invades TAiwan
06:57:13 syv: As it happens, Russia uses 12.7x108mm, whereas our 50 BMG is 12.7x99mm.
06:57:13 MidJag_: Maybe the resulting nuclear raditon wold fic my spelling~
06:57:24 Devastator: ahh, can extract the text from the website.
07:00:43 syv: I could totally see an exoskeleton that resists 50 BMG, at least in some places.
07:01:21 Devastator: basically, that's what the article says.
07:01:26 syv: But Ratnik isn't a limited thing only for special troops, it's general armament, IIRC. And exoskeletal armor WOULD NOT be deployable to many troops.
07:01:40 Devastator: it estimates that it'd be unreasonably heavy to do that, but possible with enough material.
07:02:01 Devastator: also says just that, too.
07:02:22 MidJag_: Why couldn't you put an exoskeleton on normal troops?
07:02:42 ER: I'd think a heavy armor powered exoskeleton would be mostly useful for like, swat teams
07:03:28 ER: limited operation time, but can pretty much not care about things in close quarters if it's thick enough
07:03:47 syv: They already have that fancy faceshield helmet videogames love, which is basically used for exactly that.
07:04:01 syv: And yes,
MJ. Very expensive.
07:04:38 ER: and also will probably run out of battery or fuel or whatever way too soon for infantry use
07:04:40 MidJag_: They just need to find some daemon metal and stick into some peolpe. Simple
07:04:45 Devastator: yeah, I mean, you're talking like 10k for the materials, right?
07:05:32 MidJag_: Aren't they like as wealthy as spain right now?
07:05:34 syv: Lots of people, not much money = you want cheap armor and guns
07:05:48 MidJag_: I'm actually not sure Russia has that many people anymore
07:06:00 syv: Apparently only 144 million, according to google.
07:06:14 MidJag_: I guess one too many gulags.
07:06:29 syv: And 1.6 trillion vs our 21.4 trillion GDP.
07:06:44 MidJag_: Russia is a weird place
07:06:51 syv: Yeah I don't think Russia is really that big a threat, militaristically. :P
07:07:15 syv: And China is shit as far as firearms R&D...
07:07:37 MidJag_: china's not great at most homegrown R&D really
07:08:20 Devastator: they get stuff and it doesn't work right.
07:08:43 syv: Holy fuck do they have a ton of people, though
07:08:45 Devastator: or it's ripped off to the point where their opponents can find all the flaws in it.
07:08:50 Devastator: you were mentioning software issues.
07:08:57 Devastator: eh, it's not how many you have, it's how many you can lead..
07:09:18 Devastator: I mean, if the opposition literally has the source code you're running from, do you think you can find some bugs in it? ;-p
07:09:33 syv: Yeah, is more China vs NATO if we're comparing them to the USA.
07:09:36 MidJag_: Heh, I like how germanys population is recorded as suddenly 10 million people just appeared right at the beginig of the 190's
07:10:00 MidJag_: From Germany suddenly stoping being two differnt conteis
07:10:17 MidJag_: It just looks funny on the graph
07:10:42 Devastator: this drachinifel video on santa cruz really hits home why they brought in USS Robin following that battle. Mentions poor fighter direction with specifically calling out, "It isn't just lack of experience, it's more fundamental than that."
07:10:58 MidJag_: Also it's weird how germany really doesn't have that many peopel but they keep trying to take over Eruope and nearlly succeding
07:10:59 Devastator: Brits were the best in the business at fighter direction.
07:11:02 syv: But yeah, China just copies other country's guns and calls them "Type ##"
07:11:16 syv: They have some neat stuff, but mostly I just hate it.
07:11:54 MidJag_: But poor France, they had way fewer people then germany or britian but in WWI had just as many soliders.
07:12:20 MidJag_: Which is why they just weren't into fighting WWII, they almost literally lost a generation of 20 year olds,
07:13:28 Devastator: massive french casulties.
07:13:52 MidJag_: When your causlites are hsowing up in the population chart you have a problem
07:15:14 Devastator: no drop for the napoleonic wars?
07:15:28 Devastator: well, ticked up after they ended.
07:16:49 Devastator: ..Yeah, it's just overwhelmingly clear why they wanted to borrow Victorious.
07:16:58 Devastator: "We need night landing"
07:17:04 Devastator: "We need massive improvements in fighter direction."
07:17:16 Devastator: USS Robin, aka HMS Victorious.
07:17:25 Devastator: they borred a carrier after the battle of Santa Cruz.
07:17:44 Devastator: but both night operations and fighter direction were the speicalites of british carriers..
07:17:59 Devastator: fighter direction because of the blitz, and night ops because that was worked up pre-war.
07:18:04 MidJag_: Id like to see Drach do a faulkalnds war thing
07:18:59 MidJag_: I feel like it'd be intresting, and it's the only modern like naval ish war that I can think of.
07:20:35 Devastator: later than his usual stuff, but maybe.
07:31:18 MidJag_: Yeah, I feel liek it would be intresting
07:31:32 Devastator: With his voice, basically anything would be interesting.
07:32:02 Devastator: Drachinifel has a good voice.
07:32:06 Devastator: and no, not really.
07:32:21 Devastator: had the robot voices at the start of his channel because apparently he didn't know he had a good voice.
07:32:34 MidJag_: Think of my voice but british and it sounds way better
syv.
07:33:02 syv:
MJ, think of my voice but British and sounding way better.
07:33:04 Devastator: really, just go to any of his videos.
07:33:09 syv: Can you conceive of anything...?
07:33:24 MidJag_: I'm not sure I follow.
07:33:39 syv: Pointing out that your explanation is very unhelpful.
07:34:13 MidJag_: I mean you know what my voice sounds like, he's british, and his voice is much smoother.
07:35:15 Devastator: he's moderately deep, like a baritone, and it's steady and unflappable. He doesn't have a strong accent, but a weak one, and it isn't a smooth crooner voice, but it's more his cadence, tone, and aural emphasis.
07:35:54 Devastator: doesn't trip over it and just enough harshness to assist the precision of his scriptwriting.
07:36:44 Devastator: really, any of his videos for two minutes will tell you.
07:38:06 syv: See,
Dev's description is far more useful.
07:38:36 MidJag_: I mean yeah, but of course his decsrcption is more useful, I'm terrible at describing things.
07:38:49 syv: If you just say "except better", it might as well be a flock of a hundred songbirds chirping in a distinctive pattern to emulate human speech.
07:39:27 Devastator: like Attenborough, but about ships.
07:39:40 Devastator: and quite a bit younger.
07:47:20 MidJag_: Hmm, this essay prompt asks for primary stakeholders of Boeing as in groups that are affected by it's succseses and failures and I'm like fuck, I'm not sure I have enough space to list all of those
07:49:20 MidJag_: So do people want to watch overlord this weeeknd?
07:50:02 syv: I think you've been the only person to express interest in it.
07:51:39 MidJag_: I thought everyone else reaction was sure if other people are also watching it.
07:52:42 Devastator: I'm happy enough to watch it.
07:56:24 syv: That's the same as nobody else expressing interest. Basically, "Yes, I would like to spend time with my friends, and that movie does not sound unpleasant."
07:57:14 MidJag_: So is it cool if we watch a movie this weekend then? As I recall we don't have any particular movies picked out right now.
07:57:15 Devastator: sure, happy to watch it.
07:59:48 MidJag_: I'll look around for one.
08:06:43 MidJag_: wlep, I'm going to bed.
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