03:44:57 Piecewise_also: China reporting 3 deaths per million to covid
03:45:14 Piecewise_also: canada is reporting over 300 per million
03:45:28 Piecewise_also: America 900 some
03:45:44 Piecewise_also: But I'm sure china is being honest~
03:48:21 Devastator: You sure america is being honest? ;-p
03:48:46 Devastator: guys busy trying to get as many as possible killed, looks like.
03:55:18 Devastator: Tric summoned all the characters into some kinda mindscape.
03:55:25 Devastator: it seems tiny bird is big dinosaur inside.
03:58:48 Piecewise_also: America is 3 times worse than canada so if they're lying they're at least being reasonable
03:59:09 Devastator: Nah, I don't really think they're lying.
03:59:16 Piecewise_also: China saying 3 might as well be them saying "Covid? whats that! Never heard it"
03:59:28 Devastator: China probably has more, but not 900-some.
03:59:35 Devastator: I think the only big country that might hide that is Russia.
04:00:14 Piecewise_also: CHina definitely has a lot.
04:00:38 Piecewise_also: they're far more tightly clustered in their cities than americans, with many more people sharing tight spaces
04:00:46 Devastator: probably less per million than canada, though.
04:01:08 Piecewise_also: its like how india says 100 some per million
04:01:13 Devastator: I mean, India, yeah.
04:01:14 Piecewise_also: no way in hell thats right
04:01:33 Devastator: but in China, whatever the numbers really are, they'd have accurate bookkeeping.
04:01:41 Piecewise_also: Have you ever actually seen inner city china? Like not the places they put westerners?
04:01:49 Piecewise_also: its the same as india
04:02:23 Devastator: Have you been there?
04:03:31 Piecewise_also: Not personally, But I know guys who have been there for various things and seen video of the off the beaten path areas. There's little in the way of building codes so landlords take rooms and buildings and hack them up mercilessly, packing people in
04:03:55 Devastator: sounds about right, then.
04:04:19 Piecewise_also: anywhere around the industrial or manufacturing centers where the cheap labor lives is just as packed as urban india
04:04:33 Devastator: nah, if it was really awful, the expats over here would be screaming about it.
04:04:42 Devastator: a lot of chinese expats in BC, and not just rich ones.
04:04:52 Piecewise_also: From where though?
04:04:59 Piecewise_also: Remember, china is weird
04:05:15 Piecewise_also: they have huge rural areas, nice city areas, and then manufacturing areas
04:06:03 Devastator: not too many rural ones. Mostly cities or factories, the ones I know of.
04:06:28 Devastator: Not sure I've ever met an expat who was from the chinese sticks, come to think of it.
04:06:42 Devastator: from what I heard if they move around it's to the city.
04:08:02 Piecewise_also: A lot of the abused workers are also what they call "Migrant" workers
04:08:14 Piecewise_also: ie people from the sticks or rural areas flocking to the city
04:08:36 Devastator: yeah, and even fewer rights than the ones officially there.
04:09:18 Piecewise_also: still, 3 ain't it. And I'm not sure if they have accurate numbers and are just hiding them or if they just decided to stop testing
04:09:31 Devastator: Nah, they have accurate numbers.
04:09:42 Devastator: everyone gets sick, contracts are broken, they lose a lot of money.
04:10:03 Devastator: It's not 3, but they're not dumb enough to go with just letting everyone get sick.
04:11:30 Devastator: It would be lovely to have a US-ran pandemic team in country so that we'd know..
04:12:21 Piecewise_also: There are many things it would be nice to have
04:12:47 Piecewise_also: I'd be nice if every covid vaccine video wasn't full of "ITS THE MARK OF THE BEAST" comments
04:14:28 Piecewise_also: Really I wish the news and such made it more clear how covid works
04:14:40 Piecewise_also: and didn't focus on the weird reactions
04:15:27 Piecewise_also: would make people less likely to claim they declared every death is covid and be less confused about the symptoms
04:15:55 Devastator: just so much outright lying.
04:17:48 Devastator: and lying that'll kill people.
04:19:09 Piecewise_also: I think most people in general see "Changing plans because of new info" as "Lying" or "Backtracking" or "Guessing"
04:19:42 Devastator: I"m thinking of stuff more like "You have nothing to worry about the virus" as being lying.
04:19:43 Piecewise_also: I see a lot of people still bringing up how the WHO initially recommended against masks as a justification as to why masks are useless
04:19:45 Devastator: "Almost nobody dies of it."
04:19:51 Devastator: and yeah, that one.
04:20:07 Devastator: "Everyone's going to get it, so why bother?"
04:20:26 Devastator: that last one I don't really know how to classify.
04:20:45 Piecewise_also: I think its just exhaustion in many cases
04:20:50 Piecewise_also: that last one at least
04:21:15 Piecewise_also: At least I've seen a lot of people go from worried and careful to just "If it happens it happens" over months
04:21:29 Devastator: but some of the most exhausted people I know did jack shit day one, jack shit day 100, and jack shit today.
04:21:39 Devastator: just self-absorbed jackasses.
04:22:01 Piecewise_also: A lot of people cannot understand unless it effects them personally
04:22:17 Devastator: "I'm the victim here because this minimum-wage service worker won't serve me unless I wear a mask! THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE!"
04:22:24 Piecewise_also: and god forbid it effects them personally in a minor way
04:22:36 Piecewise_also: that must mean its a huge overreaction!
04:22:39 Devastator: "Why didn't you pay for gas at the fucking pump?"
04:23:17 Piecewise_also: People pick the strangest hills to die on
04:23:33 Piecewise_also: I'll wear this mask, but not over my nose!
04:23:39 Devastator: the answer to that one is 'because I only get paid in cash due to being violently opposed to paying taxes.'
04:23:48 Devastator: or in general doing anything productive.
04:26:19 Devastator: rather talk about giant feline winged centaurs, I guess. ;-p
04:28:32 Piecewise_also: Ah, but hypocrite that you are, I don't think I've ever seen that centaur pay any taxes!
04:28:50 Piecewise_also: I bet you have a secret account in the slime coast!
04:29:12 Devastator: she has donated money to charity..
04:29:22 Devastator: and would you tell her to pay taxes? ;-p
04:30:07 Devastator: I really have no idea how to approach people in one of those two towns. Just walk up and sit down somewhere and wait for someone to get brave enough to approach?
04:32:03 Devastator: I mean, there could be a fairly normal conversation with someone standing on a roof or something.
04:32:51 Devastator: should I pump will up past the d12 barrier first and just command people to come out?
04:36:10 Devastator: I'll decide after the hive, in case she gets wounded or needs to do something silly to win.
04:36:48 Piecewise_also: Need to get yourself either an intermediary or....a hand puppet
04:37:59 Devastator: she has intermediaries, but I'm wondering if it's worth it to bother.
04:38:29 Devastator: I mean, robot army attacking the world, everyone on the road getting killed by robot attackers..
04:38:46 Devastator: just walk in, explain it as wanting to be safe from them, and just talk about things.
04:39:02 Devastator: and it'd clearly be a tail-puppet. ;-p
04:40:51 Devastator: ..Yeah, think it might be time to fuck it. She's still small enough to talk to humans, so might as well. Will need intermediaries if she grows further, but don't know if that's necessary at this point.
04:42:13 Devastator: anyway, that's all in the future. Gotta deal with the robot hive city first.
04:43:35 Piecewise_also: "Your feline overlord is here! Provide information and yarn!"
04:49:01 Devastator: Dunno, that might even work better than being sneaky.
04:49:10 Devastator: no people saying no.
04:49:57 Devastator: dunno how many people could say no to a cat that big. ;-p
04:50:46 Devastator: hmm, a yarnball with 'sharpen' cast on it. ;-p
04:52:06 Devastator: hmm, should she go in full armour or just upper-body armour?
04:54:55 Piecewise_also: Just wrap yourself in yarn
04:55:50 Devastator: yeah, I'll just walk in and wait.
04:56:16 Devastator: also, don't have any yarn. ;-p
05:08:47 Devastator: yeah, super-hearing would be useful for getting people out of buildings.
05:09:00 Devastator: could call them out based on where they are and whatever they whisper to themselves.
05:13:34 Devastator: not frightening at all. ;-p
05:13:49 Devastator: Saeko hirahara, scariest magical girl ever. ;-p
05:17:21 Devastator: [b]Thump![/b] "I know you're in there. Stop shuddering." ;-p
05:18:45 Devastator: on the plus side, hey, empathy hugs.
05:18:55 Devastator: it is just a ritual and she doesn't need to actually hug people, right?
05:25:17 Devastator: "Look, if you keep hiding, I'm just gonna take the roof off."
06:23:24 Devastator: maybe I should write a 'you are a giant monster' the combat game.
06:26:07 Devastator: nah, I'll set that up.
06:26:12 Devastator: not as that, but as that.
08:08:39 Devastator: aight, time to roll up Lord Rashim's personality.
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09:23:34 Devastator: had rain over slushy snow today.
09:24:47 Devastator: Rev looks fun. I'm torn between trying to run away from the queen and maybe try to smash my way out, and torn between going for the rip and tear.
09:25:00 Devastator: any chance of a quick Bird Observation/Curious roll?
09:26:53 ER: what are you looking for, though?
09:27:22 Devastator: if the wall looks smashable, with possible escape that way,
09:27:44 Devastator: or if it looks like touching the queen will be immediately dangerous through some kinda weird suction power thing.
09:28:26 Devastator: I'm also curious as to the nature of the flaming moon in the sky, because an imaginary fire moon bauble would be the best shiny.
09:29:02 Devastator: it might take some weird manipulation or troll logic or such to grab it, but if it's a mindscape, might as well take advantage of that sort of thing. ;-p
09:29:50 ER: 1: It seems like a whole forest of those stone trees, so even if you smash through one there will be more behind it.
09:30:26 ER: 2: It won't be dangerous. For you, anyways.
09:30:44 Devastator: RIP and tear it is.
09:30:45 ER: 3: It looks very big and angry.
09:30:53 Devastator: ooh, the best kind of bauble!
09:31:32 Devastator: (if my troll-logic move works, I'm very likely to just turn around and attack queen next turn anyway, only from the sky instead of from the ground.)
09:33:31 Devastator: still, stealing a flaming moon from the sky of a bizarre mindscape would be one of the greatest accomplishments of magpiedom.
09:35:40 Devastator: doubly so if it's like the literal manifestation of princess's ancient fire magic or something.
09:36:51 ER: Really, I just wanted some bizzare and dramatic labyrinth imagery. :P
09:37:46 Devastator: I don't see the priestess in here.
09:37:52 Devastator: musta had a better save.
09:38:01 Devastator: or not been undead.
09:39:38 Devastator: was thinking abou breaking out physically because if that succeeded, princess could have someone ripping at her in the real world while fighting in the mindscape thingy.
09:40:09 Devastator: rip and tear is good, though.
09:44:32 Devastator: 'Never take -1 strength for bonuses in case you get turned into a giant feathered dinosaur.'
09:45:39 ER: you rolled good, so you're strong inside the metaphor space :P
09:46:03 Devastator: I'm not sure if I couldn't fix that with Mind over Matter if I'd rolled badly initially.
09:46:33 Devastator: although I did actually take 0 manipulation in case of ending up in a place with wild magic that could be used in some way.
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18:22:12 Devastator: yeah, I'm not sure what's up with Tric either.
18:22:25 Devastator: should have just tried to MC generic zombies.
18:22:30 Devastator: nobody would have cared about that.
18:22:58 Devastator: but it would have been more acceptable than smart ones.
18:23:04 syv: Egan and I think he's a teen who's not really experienced and aware of what's not okay.
18:23:10 ER: especially because that's what he had just tried to do the turn previous and didn't manage it despite a good roll
18:23:18 Devastator: Hasn't Tric been around for a long time?
18:23:38 ER: so he decides that he should do some more of that and also try to assert command anyways and also do it to some undead which actually have souls
18:23:53 Devastator: maybe just one then.
18:23:56 ER: which was a bad idea actuall and just the sort of thing which leads to mages exploding
18:24:15 Devastator: doesn't seem to actually have skills that would help his character do that.
18:24:48 Devastator: I went back and was wondering where the relevant skill was.
18:25:18 ER: this is all just intuitive mana manipulation
18:25:19 Devastator: too bad, I mean, having some kinda zombie controlling power would have been pretty reasonable.
18:26:09 syv: Not a powergamer *or* a nice gamer. :P
18:26:29 Devastator: I mean, if you're going to be a jerk, do so in a funny manner that doesn't actually hurt anyone else.
18:26:39 ER: I'm surprised that he hasn't attempted to burn it all down yet
18:27:00 ER: that's usually what 100% of his actions are
18:27:04 Devastator: well, too late. I doubt Mind over Matter can redo wings, so..
18:27:11 Devastator: rip and tear, vs -2 strength..
18:27:19 syv: Hrm, Tric always does this?
18:27:21 Devastator: a decent roll might clean things up.
18:27:30 syv: I can't recall ever playing any game with him.
18:27:57 ER: for a while now all of his characters have been pyromaniac girls named tim
18:28:46 Devastator: mmm, so personal issues then.
18:31:31 Devastator: well, happens sometimes.
18:31:36 ER: At this point Tiim is a player antagonist, which I'm fine with as a GM. gives ye story impetus :)
18:32:06 Devastator: Yeah. I'm not really angry.. wouldn't have been even if partially mind controlled.
18:32:14 Devastator: I'm okay with the result.
18:32:16 ER: presumably she'll lose, then escape, and revenants are pretty much all about revenge so we got us a plot!
18:32:44 syv: I personally really really hate having my characters stolen, so I'd have been upset if she succeeded in gaining total control.
18:33:05 syv: Shalva's a new char, so not much attachment, but I'm still quite against that stuff.
18:33:31 Devastator:
ER was worse that way.
18:33:40 ER: mind controlling another creature with a soul using intuitive manipulation is probably a little difficult
18:34:12 syv: Yeah, I didn't expect him to succeed.
18:34:26 syv: Letting that succeed on a good roll would be more of an Oz thing. :P
18:35:17 Devastator: TBH, a crow not follow orders properly? Should expect that, really.
18:35:31 ER: I didn't allow for *zombies* to be trivially controlled, because it's an oppurtunity for negociation, and magic shouldn't let you *just do anything*
18:35:58 ER: and tric didn't notice, I guess?
18:36:30 ER: She tried to offer the zombies orders to do the thing they were already doing as payment for more orders :P
18:37:11 Devastator: and is playing a pyromaniac! ;-p
18:37:39 ER: yes, I suppose I shouldn't have expected any other use for that than burning things to ash -_-
18:38:12 Devastator: setting zombies on fire? Sure. ;-p
18:39:57 Devastator: but I think you're doing things right.
18:40:48 ER: kind of expecting tric to complain any minute now, though
18:41:14 ER: I don't think I've seen him complain before, but the worst things will probably happen when I'm in charge
18:42:21 Devastator: You want me to just move onto rip and tear? I had that as orders before deciding to try Mind over Matter in the mindscape.
18:42:43 Devastator: ok, I'll leave them as is.
19:04:56 Devastator: enjoying extinction,
ER?
19:06:51 Devastator: oh, and don't transform around zoo-man. ;-p
21:40:03 Devastator: Ooh, vidio on the modernized version of the China Lake.
21:40:12 Devastator: "some guys who wanted to reproduce it, because it was awesome."
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23:07:06 Devastator: Going to play a game about chariot racing,
Piecewise_also, if you want to watch.
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