ERLOG 2020-12-10

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02:08:22 ER has joined #einsteinianroulette
03:53:01 Devastator: mmm.
03:53:05 Devastator: revenant, ER.
03:53:09 ER: oh?
03:53:16 Devastator: thinking about joining.
03:53:18 Devastator: not sure.
03:53:43 ER: that *would* save me from the edgy escaped lunatic :P
03:53:54 Devastator: Yeah, that's a hell of a charsheet.
03:54:00 Devastator: but we were all lunatics once.
03:54:04 Devastator: except me, I was born old. ;-p
03:54:17 Devastator: also, don't know if you'd accept my character. ;-p
03:54:41 ER: I don't want to accept him, but I also don't really want to have to explain why. which wouldn't really be fair; he's just a noob
03:54:53 ER: depends on what it is
03:55:46 Devastator: something recently dead with flesh on it.
03:56:11 ER: I'd love that. everybody keeps giving me skeletons :P
03:56:39 Devastator: ok
03:58:21 Devastator: grr, don't have a name.
03:58:44 ER: `namegen
03:58:44 GameServ: Some names to ponder: Scaunydd, Moldbin, Hararorn, Pavanecamjuin, Ruskyvaler, Wearnonteas, Browant, Chiesollergine, Rylocro, Jescamalleren, Uraynayne, Aljuin, Yarydiam, Kilantcamarty, Walnalter, Yaridomyd, Urontta, Sepydarty, Kiraer, Locjuinasnyd.
04:15:28 Devastator: Posted.
04:16:55 Devastator: wait, Moldbin?
04:16:57 Devastator: gotta use that.
04:18:19 ER: Heh, I did say sapient, but I'll take it
04:18:56 Devastator: Undeath made him smarter, maybe.
04:19:22 Devastator: I'll either assume he can talk mentally or just write stuff.
04:21:19 Devastator: or take a point for 'literate' or 'unnaturally smart' ;-p
04:21:26 Devastator: could drop the healing down to +1, hmm..
04:21:29 Devastator: yeah, I'll do that.
04:22:39 Devastator: nah, too widespread. I'll take Literate.
04:24:54 Devastator: Hmm, I know..
04:26:09 Devastator: There.
04:26:20 Devastator: That should do it.
04:31:11 Devastator: should be lots of room for STRANGE AND WONDEROUS adventures. ;-p
04:31:42 ER: you a fan of Blackwing from OotS? :P
04:34:01 Devastator: No, not really.
04:34:09 Devastator: just seems a bit more explicitly undead. ;-p
04:34:09 ER: aww
04:34:21 Devastator: Blackwing is fine, but there's lots of undead birds.
04:35:33 Devastator: Should fit in well with any group, really.
04:36:49 Devastator: and develop in any direction.
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04:46:13 syv: Flerf
04:46:21 syv: Nyurgle nyurgle nyuuurrrrr
04:46:51 Devastator: 'lo
04:46:54 ER: caw
04:47:02 syv: 'lo
04:47:05 syv: HISSSSSS
04:47:24 Devastator: heya snake.
04:47:30 Devastator: snake okay with bird?
04:47:32 Devastator: ;-p
04:47:35 syv: Cat, not snake. >:(
04:47:39 ER: snek
04:48:03 Devastator: heya cat.
04:50:16 Devastator: mostly just wanted to use the line about 'There is an afterlife, and it's this one'.
04:50:17 Devastator: ;-p
04:51:26 syv: That crow is a very Dev character, except for the skill list.
04:52:00 Devastator: oh?
04:52:13 Devastator: what would be a me character?
04:52:35 Devastator: in general I want characters that do things wrong or that can become excessively powerful. ;-p
04:52:41 Devastator: this one is in the latter category.
04:52:56 syv: Just lacking the bonus healing things and the brain eating ability.
04:53:21 Devastator: Nah, I wanted the bonus healing because the character was supposed to be able to appear living, and didn't want to get saddled with wounds.
04:53:35 Devastator: plus it seemed useful, really.
04:53:52 Devastator: the brain eating ability was because I had an extra one and wanted something mental.
04:53:54 syv: Yes, it *is* useful.
04:54:05 syv: Hence, not a Dev character~
04:54:11 Devastator: Hah.
04:54:12 ER: hey look, corpse absorbstion
04:54:24 syv: I literally thought the same thing, yeah.
04:54:32 Devastator: Nah, normally it's something that everyone thinks is useless but ends up being useful.
04:54:54 syv: ...Hahahahaha...
04:55:07 Devastator: I still remember buying those candles in Wizards! and making earplugs immediately before running into the boss that killed with sound.
04:55:09 Devastator: ;-p
04:56:49 Devastator: although those were intended for something else.
04:56:56 Devastator: was going to make markings on the featureless marble plain.
04:57:48 syv: Yeah, candles are useful.
04:58:26 Devastator: I think it was the lightning that suggested the earplugs to me. Was thinking there might be some thunder.
04:59:47 Devastator: glad you liked the bird.
04:59:50 Devastator: was surprised at your lamia.
05:00:27 ER: Hum, I wonder if this party has language issues
05:00:31 syv: I thought a lovestruck skeleton would be amusing.
05:00:54 Devastator: yours or whatever other skeletons you run into? ;-p
05:01:03 syv: Mine.
05:01:20 syv: I... feel like not many people are going to fall in love with a skeletal snake lady.
05:02:56 Devastator: I was expecting other undead creatures, really.
05:03:02 Devastator: and that just means you aren't trying hard enough! ;-p
05:03:57 ER: well, I love Mrush'shalva :)
05:05:14 Devastator: Mmm, going to have to abbreviate that.
05:05:16 Devastator: Mush?
05:05:23 Devastator: hmm.
05:05:28 Devastator: maybe go for the four-armed snakelady?
05:06:12 syv: "Mrush"
05:06:28 syv: Or Shalva.
05:06:40 syv: A name with an interruption in the middle lends itself to abbreviations.
05:06:52 syv: I could see giving her four arms. What do you think, ER?
05:07:38 ER: mmm, you know that I like four arms
05:08:03 ER: perhaps she didn't have them in life but now inexplicably finds herself with an extra pair~
05:08:21 ER: a lot can happen in seven and a half centuries
05:10:49 syv: Let's say Lamia just have four arms in this world.
05:11:37 ER: You're the arbiter of that, I suppose
05:12:07 ER: kind of wanted to write the moment of "wtf, where did these extra hands come from"
05:12:59 syv: Edited!
05:13:08 ER: there is kitten here
05:13:12 syv: !
05:13:14 syv: :D
05:13:17 Devastator: yay.
05:13:21 ER: ytzzzzzzzzzzzz9888888i
05:13:37 syv: Awwww I could've played a zombie kitten. :(
05:13:43 syv: Dar'yajira round 2.
05:14:22 Devastator: I suspect there may have been conflict with birb.
05:15:03 ER: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442743762574245888/786460893486776330/20201210_001316.jpg
05:17:25 Devastator zooms in on other tabs
05:17:31 Devastator: and aww, kitty.
05:19:18 syv: I recognize.. one of those tabs!
05:19:36 syv: Eww, Chrome
05:20:02 syv: One is a ###.png
05:20:21 ER: theoretically, you should be able to recognise any of those three visible
05:20:31 ER: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780180739421372426/781103605535997952/eg2.png
05:20:57 Devastator: there's IRC and bay 12.
05:21:14 syv: You keep tabs open a long time, huh?
05:21:26 syv: Admittedly I think I still have that tab open, but I have thirty open.
05:21:35 ER: some of them~
05:22:10 syv: The bookmarks I don't know.
05:22:18 syv: "Index of ERLOGS" is easy.
05:22:20 syv: The others...
05:22:21 ER: taskbar is chrome, fileexplorer, steam, discord, IRC, notepad, paint.net, and calculator
05:22:57 ER: three of them are bookmark folders, which I guess is the alternative solution to infinite tabs
05:23:02 syv: ...calculator?
05:23:19 ER: yes, I keep windows calculator app on my taskbar
05:23:24 ER: math is hard
05:23:27 syv: You can open that quick and easy with win+R and then typing "Calc"
05:23:32 Devastator: heh, right now I have random.org, Revenant, and Extinction open, along with the game of the CTWC I'm watching.
05:23:36 syv: Though I mostly just use google.
05:23:37 Devastator: nah, it's a good spot for it.
05:24:22 syv: My hotbar is... file explorer, task manager, firefox, VLC, NP++, paint, Steam, qBT, Audacity.
05:24:45 ER: visible bookmarks are ERLOGS, google drive for some reason, my bank, b12 updated topics, then a folder for gamedev sites, a folder for webcomics, and a folder for random sites
05:25:07 ER: and at the very left, the icon for youtube, which just leads to youtube.com
05:25:43 ER: very right
05:25:50 syv: Hum, turning the search bar off was easy. I should have done that a long time ago.
05:26:09 syv: And task manager is now redundant, right clicking on the bar gives it as an option.
05:26:12 ER: windows 10 search bar? yup
05:27:03 ER: easier to click an icon on the bar than to rightclick it and then click an option
05:28:00 Devastator: I type too many URLs to get rid of that.
05:28:11 Devastator: I do have it doing no searches via it.
05:29:07 ER: I think you mean something different from us, dev
05:29:28 ER: windows 10 has a search bar at the bottom, as part of the taskbar, by default
05:29:57 Devastator: oh, right.
05:30:00 Devastator: sorry.
05:30:52 ER: it would be pretty silly for anyone to turn off the address bar in their internet browser of choice
05:31:55 Devastator: most people did, though, they shoved searchbars into them.
05:34:32 syv: That'snot turning them off though.
05:34:44 syv: I type URLs mostly and still use it as a searchbar too.
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05:35:17 Elastic_Ridicule: mm, why'd I dc?
05:35:36 Devastator: stuff.
05:35:41 Devastator: happens in IRC sometimes.
05:35:47 Devastator: lets see how lucky you guys are in Extinction.
05:36:02 Devastator: Hah, heh.
05:37:03 Elastic_Ridicule: `roll 1d10
05:37:03 GameServ: Elastic_Ridicule rolled 1d10: 5 <Total: 5>
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05:37:36 Elastic_Ridicule is now known as ER
05:48:02 ER: hmm
05:48:10 ER: `namegen
05:48:11 GameServ: Some names to ponder: Aldamdarien, Barlinse, Jastris, Artcarrasazer, Keldnal, Verdoraverras, Baeascarthont, Graveascbinere, Ascathcheanyn, Cynern, Hacarthlynquine, Cracynazyd, Zolgaynazersume, Ery, Haithmel, Gearrytineas, Tralaldyil, Kolaxleneame, Sepwat, Habaynealen.
05:50:39 Devastator: Cyncarthalynquine.
05:52:44 syv: That sounds like a chemical.
05:53:59 Devastator: yes.
06:14:06 ER: words words words
06:14:09 ER: Revenant
06:14:39 ER: 2/5 characters complete, of the first half of the introduction :P
06:17:09 syv: In AoTTG, when you reload your blades, you drop your old blades.
06:17:37 syv: Blades are actual physical objects in the gameworld; they slide down slopes, bounce off objects, and come to rest on the ground.
06:17:53 syv: They can also be grabbed by a player's grapples.
06:17:59 syv: But they can't be *aimed* at.
06:18:25 syv: You can only grab them accidentally, by them falling in front of your grapples while they're being fired through the air.
06:18:58 syv: If you grab them, your grapples are rooted to the spot that they collided, and will pull you to that point in the air, forever. Until you let go.
06:19:33 syv: This means, theoretically, you can always drop your blades, then *grab* your blades in midair, to launch yourself even higher.
06:19:48 syv: But it requires better-than-frame-perfect timing.
06:19:51 ER: tell the aottg2 people to implement grapping onto moving objects or physics objects :P
06:20:01 syv: Already planned!
06:20:19 ER: and with physics object you should pull them towards you as well as yourself towards them
06:20:40 Devastator: heh.
06:20:42 ER: leading to fun physics kaizo levels where you have to use this in some absurdly deadly way~
06:21:22 syv: Currently I'm trying to write custom code for Riblei, so he can make a co-op race.
06:21:45 syv: But coding with AoTTG's terrible pseudocode is a pain, and it's easy to get distracted.
06:31:33 Devastator: hmm.
06:43:38 Devastator: finally figured out how to make a 'fun' car.
06:43:46 Devastator: you take a normal city can and remove half the safety equipment.
06:43:58 Devastator: that makes it a lot lighter, so it's zippier.
06:44:42 ER: who needs that stuff anyways
06:45:04 syv: Can... can you sell it?
06:45:19 Devastator: yeah.
06:45:56 syv: Is it more expensive than the one without safety equipment?
06:46:11 Devastator: it's not that low, just down to a 20-ish rating instead of 25.
06:46:15 Devastator: and it's cheaper, which also helps.
06:46:28 Devastator: but the regular city market wants safety equipment more than they want the car to be zippier.
06:46:41 Devastator: the fun market cares a lot less about that.
06:50:07 Devastator: there are also some things that are quite different. They want the top speed to be near the redline, not low into the top gear like the normal market.
06:51:14 Devastator: they're also big fans of a few premium features, like an advanced limited-slip diff and ABS brakes.
06:52:01 syv: So... again, can you sell the vaugely tuned car with less safety for a higher price than the safe car that's actually more expensive?
06:52:23 ER: less demand though, prolly
06:52:36 syv: Surely.
06:57:16 Devastator: No, plain City car budget is 500 bucks higher.
06:57:25 Devastator: so they'll buy the standard trim ones for more.
06:58:12 Devastator: but this gives me a better shot at the extra 840-ish buyers who want a Fun car, not a City car, and it's easily doable with a trim.
06:58:34 Devastator: Also, being cheaper it'll sell more into the even more downmarket budget demos who simply can't buy the full price model.
07:17:22 Devastator: ugh, that was counter-intuitive.
07:17:41 Devastator: to get value out of adding a turbo, I had to tune it so it gets about 12% more power and is choked to hell on the fuel intake.
07:18:00 Devastator: that's the only way to keep high fuel efficiency.
07:19:18 Devastator: It makes sense in retrospect, but I really need to add fuel injection. I'll do that sometime in the 90s.
07:25:34 Devastator: yeah, it's the dead-flat torque curve that helps driveability a lot.
07:25:55 Devastator: 72.9, which is higher than the GT tuned V12 car I have.
07:26:16 Devastator: so basically you put the pedal down and the car accelerates extremely smoothly.
07:26:33 Devastator: This game is so detailed.
07:26:55 Devastator: Huh.
07:26:57 Devastator: ariane.
07:27:22 Devastator: Guess we're gonna sit on the stairs until she's ready.
07:30:11 Devastator: yeah, that's the most driveable car I've ever made.
07:30:22 Devastator: that GT car was 64.3
07:46:43 Devastator: nifty.
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09:08:15 Devastator: heya sy.
09:08:26 sy: heya dev.
09:08:44 sy: Finished the code.
09:09:05 sy: Now I need to take a picture of a cat.
09:09:09 sy: Then... I dunno.
09:10:25 ER: :)
09:10:26 Devastator: picture of cat?
09:11:01 ER: you'll have to read unsounded ofc
09:11:42 Devastator: nah.
09:11:50 ER: you dare?
09:12:06 Devastator: say nah?
09:12:07 Devastator: me?
09:12:09 Devastator: yeah.
09:12:22 ER: I know you dislike fun, I was saying to sy
09:13:21 sy: Guess I can.
09:13:26 sy: Unsounded over Pyre?
09:14:00 ER: hard choice
09:18:37 ER: I looked up four armed skeleton, trying to think of what that lamia would look like
09:19:29 ER: strangely, it seems that it's not some kind of huge problem to have that, at least from just looking at the pictures like the lazy dumb I am
09:19:47 Devastator: four armed person with no legs.
09:20:27 ER: and a fuckton of ribs :P
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09:20:57 Devastator: that's the snake bit, yes.
09:21:56 ER: begone, auto Piecewise
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09:27:35 sy: I could ban him.
09:29:45 Devastator: please don't.
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09:49:28 ER: `namegen
09:49:28 GameServ: Some names to ponder: Vadcariamaller, Starlir, Teriamarneame, Estiensteadlene, Jescarthris, Sepastascazer, Hoularyncarthaller, Lorastyazer, Kolinacyert, Sepeasartylin, Pulgaller, Jestinantgeth, Kiarnearty, Rolacy, Skalerryayneere, Ralallergethak, Asgeth, Scaunazcar, Ryere, Winiel.
09:59:25 Devastator: Kolina
10:01:31 ER: I went for Ryere
10:02:38 Devastator: Heh.
10:02:45 Devastator: Maaaybe I should have written more backstory. ;-p
10:03:04 ER: heh, nah
10:03:22 ER: I like the contrast
10:06:11 Devastator: Heh.
10:06:27 Devastator: definately going to have an experience waking up smart.
10:12:17 ER: ish
10:12:46 Devastator: All relative, really.
10:15:29 ER: sekiro taught me that fireworks are for scaring animals
10:17:01 Devastator: like 'you're a big raven' is about twoish pounds. ;-p
10:17:04 Devastator: oh?
10:17:10 Devastator: sekiro had animal scaring fireworks?
10:17:15 ER: yup
10:17:16 Devastator: or are they supposed to be useful?
10:17:25 ER: they are very useful
10:17:48 ER: they do also stagger humans, but they're extra good against animals
10:18:32 Devastator: mmm.
10:19:58 sy: They're ridiculously OP.
10:20:02 sy is now known as syv
10:20:35 syv: Basically always give you two or three free attacks on any enemy, and can immediately be spammed right after attacking.
10:21:08 syv: They also interrupt almost any animation, and deal heavy damage to the... *true* healthbar?
10:21:59 syv: And yes, they're even *better* against animals.
10:22:23 Devastator: that's something.
10:22:29 syv: One of the hardest bosses is an animal, and you can almost skip its first stage by spamming firecrackers. And that's the actually difficult stage.
10:22:42 syv: Sekiro's prosthetic system is just offensively broken.
10:22:57 syv: Most of the tools are just useless or extremely niche.
10:23:01 Devastator: and right, the true healthbar, because you have to wound guys so they don't regen health from the true bar, right?
10:23:52 syv: Yeah, if you max out poise, you can instakill them. But their poise constantly regens at a rate based upon their HP. If HP is down to 0, they also instantly max poise, but poise usually hits max long before then anyway.
10:24:13 syv: Firecrackers don't touch HP, but are worth several attacks in terms of Poise damage.
10:25:08 ER: and yet strangely for the player character maxing out your poise means nothing but probably eating a free hit
10:25:39 ER: and you will very likely die to vitality loss sooner than getting poise broken
10:27:19 syv: I really dislike how Sekiro's combat system is broadly. "You have one good attack. Your basic attack. Almost everything else (of like thirty attacks) has a significant downside to balance a minor upside, except for the three or four things that are all upside and are easily spammable, but have limited uses."
10:27:51 ER: yeah, it's kinda fucked
10:28:10 ER: the core loop is really really good, and then they had more content they needed to add
10:28:19 syv: There's a couple little exceptions, like floating passage being pretty decent against mooks and for chip damage, but the vast majority of the options are just irrelevant.
10:28:45 ER: probably would have been better served adding more base movesets rather than the special moves and tools
10:29:32 ER: axe shinobi! dagger shinobi! bow shinobi!
10:29:43 ER: see, that would have been more fun
10:31:10 syv: Like Dark Souls!
10:31:32 ER: heh
10:32:45 Devastator: Yes.
10:33:32 ER: I hope that Elden Ring isn't just a dark souls retread, but has more sensible design than sekiro
10:33:47 syv: I'd be totally okay with a dark souls retread.
10:33:51 Devastator: six of one..
10:35:04 syv: Really though, I'd be hoping for a Bloodborne retread.
10:35:06 ER: I... playing sekiro makes me want more stuff like that. which is probably not close to what elden ring will promise, but I can hope!
10:35:42 ER: bloodborne: "you're playing dark souls wrong, dodge more!"
10:36:00 ER: sekiro: "you're playing dark souls wrong, block more!"
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13:44:20 Piecewise: I sincerely hope Sy isn't calling ichimonji irrelevant
13:48:36 Piecewise: An attack that covers good distance, deals high posture damage, and restores your own posture?
13:48:43 Piecewise: Pretty broken honestly
13:49:15 Piecewise: The sempo arts are pretty good too honestly
13:49:39 Piecewise: So good they actually had to nerf the kicks because they were too powerful
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