01:49:51 Elasticly_Rigid is now known as er
02:00:41 Piecewise: So when we gonna watch movie?
03:23:46 Devastator: I have like zero internet atm,
Piecewise
03:27:46 Devastator: I'll get my net sorted or start on it tomorrow.
03:32:20 Devastator: probably be finished sometime on Sunday, then.
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04:07:22 syv: I'd prefer waiting for the dubs, myself.
04:07:45 syv: I have this thing with anime, where I enjoy looking at the art and character faces while people talk.
04:08:09 Devastator: I'm hearing impaired, so subs are a way of life.
04:08:24 syv: MiA's VAs are also pretty good.
04:08:38 syv: Sadly, I think
ER also prefers subs, so that's 3/4.
04:08:55 syv: I'll torrent it after work on Sunday.
04:09:16 syv: So watch sometime next week. Assuming that's not too early.
04:09:26 Piecewise: The dubs are months out
04:10:17 syv: We've taken months to finish watching anime that was dubbed *before* we started.
04:10:46 Devastator: months do seem too long.
04:10:52 Devastator: gonna have to overrule you,
syv.
04:11:16 syv: (
syv) I'll torrent it after work on Sunday.
04:12:25 Piecewise: Make sure to let me know when you guys decide
04:12:59 Devastator: I know you like the show.
04:13:03 Piecewise: Inconsistent fellas you are~
04:13:21 syv: Dubs, when will they make and release PM3 movie 4?
04:13:51 Piecewise: corona chan is making all things difficult
04:14:23 syv: She's making it easier to justify staying at home and avoid social interaction.
04:14:31 syv: Not for *me*, but otherwise, I mean.
04:14:59 Devastator: got screwed today because of corona-chan.
04:15:10 Devastator: ordered a pump months ago from a company in the states.
04:15:41 Devastator: apparently like half the staff there got corona and a bunch of them are in the hospital, so.. who knows?
04:23:10 syv: Trump's chances are looking fairly poor.
04:23:25 Piecewise: Thats hard to say actually
04:24:15 Piecewise: Last time they gave him less than a 5% chance to win
04:24:54 syv: Was going to disagree, but then it tightened a lot right at the end, so it might've been 5% at this point.
04:24:55 Piecewise: Not to mention the presidential polls are bouncing up and down by huge amounts.
04:29:18 Piecewise: Whenever I hear that things look terrible for trump I remember this
04:30:57 syv: I didn't say terrible. I said fairly poor.
04:31:58 syv: I'm just hoping another cat doesn't die on election night.
04:32:09 Piecewise: I'm sure one will, somewhere
04:32:31 syv: Yeah, I mean one of mine. I don't care about the other cats in the world.
04:32:42 Piecewise: my cats are other cats in the world
04:32:50 Piecewise: and they're pretty good
04:33:05 Piecewise: one of them sits on my chest and stares directly at me every morning
04:33:18 syv: Yeah, I'd rather yours don't die either, but I'd prefer mine to survive over yours.
04:34:05 Piecewise: I see the democrats are pushing a bill trying to limit terms in the supreme court. Thats pretty transparent
04:34:25 Piecewise: its just amusing to me that this exact same thing happened with Scalia but in reverse
04:34:48 Piecewise: so both parties have completely flip flopped from their previous positions
04:35:14 Piecewise: and both are still somehow acting like they have a moral highground
04:35:18 syv: Because right now everything is just polarized, good is your side, bad is the other.
04:35:41 Piecewise: how terrible. I suggest we delete all social media
04:36:01 syv: But that includes some of my favorite porn sites!
04:36:16 Piecewise: I mean like facebook, twitter, etc
04:36:30 syv: I mean Twitter's not a bad porn site.
04:36:31 Piecewise: what social media are you getting porn from?
04:36:58 syv: It's one of the best uses Twitter has, really.
04:37:24 Piecewise: There's that website that lets you scrape unlisted imgur uploads. That can sometimes have some interesting things
04:37:45 Piecewise: I mostly use twitter to keep track of japanese hobby stuff
04:42:14 Piecewise: There's also one odd thing it brings up
04:42:26 Piecewise: that image appears thousands or hundreds of thousands of times
04:42:34 Piecewise: you'll see it over and over
04:43:14 syv: "Cannot be displayed because it contains errors"
04:43:21 syv: Also, neither of those links functions for me.
04:51:28 Piecewise: Looks kind of like an album cover
04:56:04 syv: ...It would seem my work wifi now just blocks imgur images?
04:56:49 Piecewise: Stop you from having fun I suppose
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04:58:24 sy: That second one looks kinda like a photomanip to me.
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05:13:02 Devastator: Moral high ground is the one who didn't kill 200,000 people out of laziness.
05:13:26 Devastator: Also,
PW, 538 gave him ~30%. The 5% is basically "Ignore the polls, Trump's in the lead!"
05:14:07 Devastator: same with bouncing up and down. Been really super-stable, except for the two pro-trump pollsters. Everyone else says Biden's up 7-8% or so, those guys say Trump's up one, so they're bouncing around!
05:14:09 sy: IIRC Trump got much higher chances in the last week of the election.
05:14:23 Devastator: Yeah, after the Comey letter.
05:14:26 Devastator: damn russian hackers.
05:14:29 sy: I recall his chances being much worse before then.
05:14:45 Devastator: They were. Seemed to move it 2% in a week, the week before the election.
05:15:13 sy: And to be fair, if the same kinda thing happened at the same time this election, I think he's actually doing *better* than he had been?
05:15:28 Devastator: Nah, he was doing 4-5% down.
05:15:39 Devastator: now he's down 7-8%, and there's been much, much less movement.
05:15:45 Devastator: and vastly fewer undecided voters.
05:16:32 Devastator: There's been two movements since the start of the year. About +4% or so at the start of the corona outbreak, because he's the incumbant and there's a disaster. That lasted about a month and a half before wearing off.
05:16:53 Devastator: Then there was a 5% shift in favor of Biden after he gassed those people outside the white house so he could take that church photo-op.
05:17:01 Devastator: he's since won about half of that group back.
05:17:32 Devastator: But basically 38% of the electorate is in the reality-free zone of the conservative media, so no listening.
05:17:33 Piecewise:
Devastator You're really incorrect about that
05:19:51 Piecewise: Trump and Biden have crossed over, then separated hugely before coming back together and then bouncing off again.
05:20:35 sy: Can you give the article that image comes from?
05:20:38 Devastator: I'm talking about polls..
05:20:47 Devastator: betting markets are something else entirely.
05:22:09 Devastator: Yeah, betting markets. Those are different.
05:22:33 Devastator: and definately running more in favor of Trump than the polls. Not sure why.
05:22:55 Piecewise: Likely because they're taking into account the fact that polls are often inaccurate to reality
05:23:14 Devastator: That's a much more reasonable argument when talking about something other than betting markets.
05:23:17 Piecewise: due to how they function and how they gather participants
05:24:42 Devastator: Why would betting markets be any better, though?
05:25:49 Devastator: I'd rather stick with polls. Actual consequences when you screw up polls.
05:26:46 Devastator: That one was pretty serious and cost a good amount of money.
05:28:17 er: Hope you're doing alright, tonight
05:29:03 er: Why do I think you should be happy?
05:29:38 Piecewise: I really don't have a race in this election. Yet again I don't like either of them
05:30:24 Devastator: Please don't vote for the autocrat.
05:30:34 sy: Do you, uh, actually think Trump wouldn't be worse than Biden? I mean, I can get disliking Joeboy, but thinkinb he's equivalent to Trump...
05:31:18 Devastator: I mean, he's been cheerleading murderers the last few weeks. Not going to be a good place to live if he's returned.
05:31:53 Devastator: I can get not liking Biden, but this is a choice between a free country and one that isn't.
05:32:45 Piecewise: pffft We haven't been in a free country for well over a century
05:33:35 Devastator: I mean ones where you don't have to bribe police officers to get out of speeding tickets at random.
05:34:02 Devastator: but what do you mean?
05:35:23 Piecewise: I mean that the country has been on a slow but steady pace towards a powerful government heavily directed by large corporations and private interests for decades and it continues regardless of who is in power
05:35:44 sy: ...Even if you think we haven't been in a free country, and there's no chance of any improvement there, that doesn't mean it's a rational decision to choose the person who's more of a jackass and is more overtly corrupt...
05:36:00 Devastator: been some pretty heavy bumps there.
05:36:24 Devastator: I wouldn't call the implementation of medicaid and social security steps on the way towards that.
05:36:35 Devastator: and those happened less than a hundred years ago.
05:38:35 Devastator: I'd also be very reluctant to call the Civil Rights era a movement in favor of large corporations and rich private interests.. quite the opposite.
05:39:12 Piecewise:
Sy I'm not voting for trump. But I might not vote for biden either.
05:39:25 Devastator: I'd probably agree with you from the 1980s onwards, you could make a case for a lot of that from then on.
05:39:42 Devastator: still, that's a long time but hardly a century, and it certainly hasn't been regardless.
05:41:22 Devastator: Nah, even by that standard the level of the swamp monsters in favor of Trump are really, really awful. Commuting Blagovech's sentence, when he got thrown in jail for trying to sell a senate seat?
05:41:31 Piecewise: Check the income tax by group
05:41:53 Piecewise: its been in decline since the 1940s or so
05:42:04 Devastator nods, yeah, seen that.
05:42:12 Devastator: and it isn't false.
05:42:39 Piecewise: the influence of lobbyists have likewise increased over time, becoming engrained in politics and twisting it towards their own ends
05:42:46 Devastator: part of biden's platform is more taxes on corporations and the rich..
05:43:14 Devastator: Again, there are lobbyists. And there's paying Trump a million bucks to escape investigation for securities fraud, like Loeffler.
05:43:44 Piecewise: Hell, in the 1930's several private corporations were in the beginning stages of a military coup against the government.
05:44:33 Devastator: Kinda what I'm saying.
05:44:36 Devastator: it wasn't linearly.
05:44:42 er: Hey
sy, do you have an opinion on the last thing I PMed you?
05:44:44 Devastator: went down after that era for some time.
05:44:56 sy: Didn't see it,
ER. Will check.
05:44:59 Piecewise: it just became less obvious.
05:45:13 sy: Well that's an unfalsifiable statement, isn't it?
05:45:15 Devastator: at some point less obvious is less there.
05:45:57 Devastator: particularly when talking about corruption. I mean, if you don't get beaten by ax handles for striking, but there are still those who want to do that, you've still taken a step away from that.
05:46:00 sy: "Things were bad and get worse." "Some bad things happened, and some good things happened. There has been less at time." "No, status quo is the same or worse, you just can't see it all sometimes."
05:47:18 sy: Ahhh, I did see this,
ER! It's amusing.
05:47:32 sy: LACE is rapidly becoming my favorite fleshorror. >v<
05:48:12 Piecewise: Ironically its the unions that are beating workers now
05:48:32 er: I just ended up with the phrase "babe ive got eyes for days" and then derived backwards from that
05:48:36 Devastator: Rather ironic. We're anti-union! Except ours!
05:48:50 er: And then needed to write down what I got, so pm
05:49:53 Piecewise: funny joke
dev, but saying things like that is what makes people vote trump
05:50:07 Piecewise: Michael moore was right about that
05:50:51 sy: Yeah, but nobody here seems at risk of voting Trump.
05:51:02 sy: Even you seem more anarchist than votey.
05:51:04 Devastator: also, we're up for a snap election.
05:51:14 Piecewise: And I've got family in unions. They are supposed to protector workers and fight for them but often they become thuggish and militant, willing to blackball anyone who doesn't join up
05:51:23 Devastator: which is really irritating me because of covid, so probably going to vote against the government.
05:51:37 sy: Same. I've also got family with no union which has suffered for it.
05:52:07 Devastator: The trouble with authority is that those who want it are those who least should have it.
05:52:17 sy: People with power will bully people with less power, but at least if you have multiple sources of power over your hesd, some of their energies will be spent fighting each other.
05:52:51 Piecewise: again, I don't like either side of this election and I'm quite tired of hearing "Well you have to vote for this side because at least its not as bad as that side!"
05:53:45 sy: I didn't really mean to drag you into a politics discussion, it's just something I was thinking about, so I shared with my friends in the chat channel I happened to be sitting in.
05:53:48 Devastator: I do genuinely like biden, personally.
05:53:48 Piecewise: Oooh boy! Two mentally incompetent old white millionaires. Neat choice.
05:54:21 Devastator: It's just so nice to have someone sane who can talk to people with different views and get along with them.
05:54:44 Piecewise: Biden is a tool unironically. Sitting there talking about how black people invented lightbulbs, trying to cow tow to the popular movement of the moment with no real investment either way
05:55:04 Devastator: I've heard that, but I'm not convinced at it.
05:55:08 sy: How about we stop the politics talk.
05:56:09 er: Get these dorks to talk about LACE instead
05:56:18 Piecewise: I'm going to bed, let me know when you guys want to watch the thing.
05:58:55 Devastator: Should be a good watch.
05:59:18 er: Does my strategy make sense in cabal, you think? Don't want to bother with the hunting myself, but it needs to be done, and surely there are people willing to do that for nifty magical items.
06:00:19 Devastator: although you might be overspending on wands and coudl get away with less.
06:02:06 er: Why use less force when more will do? ~
06:02:21 sy: Because you don't have infinite mana OH WAIT
06:03:04 er: And yeah, I can literally pray to a bonfire and refill my spells
06:03:58 er: Which means I'd rather use all my mana here both so that the result isn't fiddly and to make sure it's enough
06:08:08 er: Today I played the little story game Escaped Chasm, by Temmie who did some of the art in Undertale
06:08:36 er: Cause youtube showed me one of her animations and then I found that
06:20:52 er: Sort of bleak and depressing and it's not helped a huge amount by being interactive, but it's good enough for me
06:22:05 er: Most frustrating part is probably that getting a bad ending is sort of both unsatisfying and makes you reset the whole thing
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06:26:01 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Do fleshorrors dream of eclectic blebs?
06:26:01 Topic set by syv [Sunday 01 March 2020, 07:55:55]
06:26:04 sy: Yeah, there needs to be more decapitation in fiction.
06:31:22 er: I did have to reset Escaped Chasm multiple times. One because a scene froze (think resizing the window messes it up), once because I hit "end game" to see what happens (you get booted back to the title, nothing interesting) and once because I ignored multiple warnings and presumably died
06:31:25 Devastator: today's Ryu Mario is really good.
06:32:14 er: Um, I might have to log out of here in order to rest
06:48:08 Devastator: man, that was a garbage run in ryu mario.
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16:27:16 Devastator: ugh, too complicated game.
19:39:57 Devastator: The case was evidently brought, he said, “to establish the liberty of inebriated English subjects to be allowed to lie undisturbed overnight in their own vomit-soaked clothing.” If so, she did not succeed. And wasn’t that in the Magna Carta anyway?
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22:19:01 ER: I just downloaded the movie
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