02:08:05 Devastator: so how's tonight going,
Piecewise?
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04:11:39 syv: Positively stressed for the most part, I guess? But stressed.
04:12:24 syv: Hopefully I'll be able to return to PS soon, I've pretty much chose to put it off while I deal with more important things.
04:15:54 Devastator: found another starcraft streamer.
04:16:03 Devastator: and an interesting skin.
04:23:07 syv: That *is* interesting. Looks really good.
04:26:03 Devastator: wonder what P looks like.
04:27:15 Devastator: but the animations are really important.
04:27:30 Devastator: those little dancing marines make them look way better.
04:33:06 syv: The zerglings look so cute.
04:45:20 Devastator: they probably are happy, really.
04:45:35 Devastator: all the good endorphins.
04:46:46 syv: What is the actual benefit of locking down siege tanks?
04:47:07 syv: It's been a looong time since I played, SC, and I didn't use that much. Or tanks much.
04:47:32 Devastator: where they sit in place?
04:47:48 Devastator: when they can move, they have a gun that does 30 damage and shoots about once a second.
04:48:10 Devastator: when they seige up, the gun does 75 damage, with splash damage, fires about every 1.5 seconds, and has about three extra range.
04:49:11 Devastator: yeah, they hit much harder.
04:49:17 Devastator: but they have a minimum range.
04:49:23 syv: ...But they lose movement, which seems huge in comp SC.
04:49:32 Devastator: yeah. Means you need support for them.
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04:54:11 Devastator: would wolf alida win against an ultralisk?
04:57:43 syv: I don't know anything about ultralisks.
04:58:13 syv: She probably could on account of being a lich, being able to regen, and having multiple bodies.
05:00:26 Devastator: they're much bigger, have basically tank plating for armour, and hit with those massive scythes.
05:00:42 Devastator: in truth, I don't think she could, even with CC3.
05:05:41 syv: I mean... Alida could kill a tank...
05:06:08 syv: She'd struggle to hurt it, but I imagine it was weakpoints. Most everything does.
05:06:13 er:
syv what would happen with two different Ruler's Runes with overlapping areas of influence.
05:07:12 syv: So higher level one wins, or idle one loses.
05:07:40 syv: If you're both trying to counter each other... probably basically nothing, though maybe there'd be some kinda horrible reality wobbling.
05:09:58 Devastator: and ultras are canonically triple the HP of tanks, and melee..
05:10:26 syv: Triple? Hard to say what that means, but yeah, that's worse.
05:10:41 syv: Melee is bad against Alida. She's like really really dodgy.
05:11:04 syv: And pretty good at blocking, though if their scythes can rip through tanks than she probably just wants to dodge.
05:11:45 syv: But yeah, if they don't have exceptional speed and reflexes, they'd struggle a lot to hit her. Hell, if they aren't flexible, she can just hop on one's back.
05:12:31 syv: Plus she has effigies, so if she doesn't send her gem in, she can pretty safely fight with disposable bodies.
05:12:52 syv: It's a matter of how expensive it is, IMO, rather than "can she do it?"
05:13:16 Devastator: yeah, the effigys would do it.
05:14:13 er: RR ÷ TM IV would be a fun power set
05:14:32 er: Especially if you can combine them directly
05:15:07 syv: Also, the whole "doesn't die if not gem killed".
05:15:21 syv: Which means a whole lot depending on enemy knowledge.
05:16:00 syv: If the ultralisk knows it has to target the gem, can perceive it, and can plan/think well yeah, she's in serious danger and it's a very risky fight.
05:16:10 syv: If it's basically an angry animal, then nah.
05:16:43 syv: Consider how threatening the knights are in the current labyrinth, for having obviously targeted her gem.
05:16:45 Devastator: it's an angry animal but it has a mind behind it somewhere.
05:17:01 Devastator: mostly I think if it gets one shot off on a body, that body is ripped in half.
05:17:22 syv: Yeah, you don't have Painless III yet, do you?
05:17:49 syv: So it's still rocket tag, as usual for magical girls.
05:20:23 er: Hmm. There's really not a lot of ways to not be squish
05:20:36 Devastator: armour totem probably would help.
05:20:54 Devastator: the perfect suit of plate armour might be prohibitively expensive, but probably much less squish.
05:21:07 er: Even painless III and convalescence still let you take the damage
05:21:09 syv: PS is very much designed to *not* be Einsteinian Roulette.
05:21:47 er: I mean, a bomb still destroyed half of Sharon's armor
05:22:38 syv: I think it was a big laser, actually. I don't really know.
05:23:36 syv: Sharon's armor was more about light damage mitigation. The whole idea that if you have DR 5, big targeted damage 30 attacks still murder you good, but spammable <7 damage attacks can be laughed off.
05:24:02 syv: Very nice against most familiars. Less so against witches.
05:25:10 syv: The end of that match was very surprising.
05:26:10 Devastator: so is the extra tougness on alida more HP or like DR 2/-?
05:27:50 syv: I read that as "the extra tongues" and was very confused.
05:28:10 Devastator: I mean, she would have extra tongue with the huge muzzle.
05:28:33 syv: Could be argued to be kinda like DR 1, since small shrapnel and whatnot won't do much to her. She could be shot up with a 9mm and wouldn't mind *nearly* as much.
05:28:59 syv: But stuff that *barely* kills a magical girl isn't very common.
05:31:51 Devastator: oh well, sounds like the best way to not get hit would be to not go into the fight.
05:32:19 Devastator: but that wouldn't be her.
05:42:07 Devastator: "I wish I had extra tongues"
05:51:41 Devastator: they're all wastes! ;-p
05:53:35 Devastator: although "I wish I had elemental magic" or something would be super-fun.
05:54:59 syv: There's a number of "I wish I knew what was going on" style wishes that wouldn't be wastes, prolly. But I'd be liable to slap someone who tried to do a plot bypass.
05:55:29 syv: Just wait a decade, like everyone else. :|
05:56:34 Devastator: alida could use a decade.. ;-p
05:58:11 Devastator: well, there's a P match on that skin.
06:02:08 Devastator: "You wished to have large breasts?" "I didn't, they're all natural!" "You wished you had naturally large breasts?"
06:03:17 Devastator: oh god, dragoons are so cute.
06:10:46 syv: "Do you ever shut up?" "No, I'm a streamer."
06:23:03 syv: Do units get benefits from high killcounts?
06:23:15 Devastator: No, not in starcraft.
06:23:34 Devastator: it just means some unit didn't die.
06:25:29 Devastator: we're talking about a starcraft streamer.
06:26:22 syv: Unless you're asking whether you should stream.
06:26:35 syv: In which case I'd probably still end up watching, actually...
06:27:11 er: Hey
syv, what happens when a pregnant girl becomes an MG
06:27:39 syv: I am irritated that this is a possibility.
06:27:53 syv: ...Fuck, that would *not* be good.
06:28:38 er: Do I look like some kind of pregnancy expert to you
06:28:40 syv: Actually I'm not sure that would turn out okay at any stage.
06:29:21 Devastator: ..I'd probably just expect a miscarriage.
06:29:38 syv: Yeah, I don't know, but that would be bad.
06:29:54 syv: No, it would be worse than that,
Dev.
06:30:26 er: Because lichness, I presume
06:30:30 syv: Fucky stuff happens when you make a wish.
06:31:52 Devastator: sorta fucky or really fucky?
06:32:36 syv: Slightly fucky physically, extremely fucky mentally, I'd say.
06:32:49 syv: So it depends on how much of a consciousness the baby has.
06:33:13 syv: If it's a very early pregnancy and the girl isn't aware of it, it'd probably just get more or less deleted.
06:33:59 syv: If it's before the baby has a mind, and the girl *is* aware of it, that's probably bad but I'm unsure how. Hopefully she's a cre or mercy or something and can fix it.
06:34:21 syv: If the baby has a mind, I have no clue what would happen, and it's probably worrying.
06:37:09 Devastator: something worrying would happen or worrying that you don't know.
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06:39:16 MidJag: how goes the eternal repair of your washer?
06:43:25 Devastator: did find out about a starcraft skin that is really cool.
06:45:43 er: Totally not asking horrifying questions
06:45:56 MidJag: Yes, those questions do sound horrifying.
06:47:54 er: It was only one question! D:
06:48:19 er: I had to know, I'd been afraid to ask for too long
06:50:03 Devastator: "I wish I had an unholy tome."
06:50:06 MidJag: Perhaps it just turns into ancephally. Nutritional caused birth defect and it's not like MG's eat.
06:50:56 Devastator: and I think most MGs eat. They jsut don't have to.
06:51:05 MidJag: Uhh, essentially it's where an infant is born without the top part of their head.
06:51:14 MidJag: They have a brain stem but nothing else.
06:53:12 er: Silly biology, the brain is the important part
06:53:30 er: You can't just omit that and get away with it
06:54:48 MidJag: Yeah it's apperentlly pretty bad for all parties invovled.
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07:07:17 syv: Yeah, I'm PMing
MJ the details.
07:07:26 syv: Because it's kiiinda spoilery in parts?
07:07:41 syv: Ask him how horrifying it is, I'm not really sure what degree.
07:08:01 ER: so I'll still have to live not fully knowing the canon answer? D:
07:08:38 syv: Well, while explaining it I realized that it just would never happen.
07:08:47 syv: It has almost certainly happened before.
07:08:54 ER: technically, this means that spoiler-level information can be gained through testing it!
07:09:33 ER: Pumsy is probably smart enough to not try it again if something horrible happened the first time
07:09:47 MidJag: Yes, many terrible things would happen.
07:11:10 ER: hey
MJ, how horrifying is the truth, on a scale from 1 to 10
07:11:28 MidJag: I dunno, like a 6 or 7?
07:14:43 MidJag: Honestlly, all this stuff I had to read for the MCAT has kinda dulled my sense of horror.
07:15:22 Devastator: Yeah, I can see that happening when you learn medicine.
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20:33:11 Devastator: I think the part I like about those starcraft games is how they're not super-perfect.
20:33:26 Devastator: there's always lots of skirmishes and inconclusive individual actions.
20:37:42 Devastator: you can get an advantage, but not a win.
23:24:17 Devastator: You don't have enough money for your orders.
23:25:43 Devastator: nah, you're fine, you lost the bid on the APC, so you're good.
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