00:04:03 Devastator: hey,
Piecewise, does saeko still need to drink water?
00:07:51 Devastator: I'll just assume yes.
01:09:47 piecewise: You survive on gold and nothing else is strictly needed
01:16:04 ER: recommend tying a crucible to your back which constantly melts gold and injects it into your viens
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03:17:20 Devastator: goddamn it, I missed it by TWO DAYS?
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04:48:04 Devastator: also, Katia, discovering yet another thing weird about her.
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06:24:31 Devastator: didn't PM you since it's a few days old.
06:25:25 ER: so uh, I had a dream where I was going to highschool and then realized that I didn't know where or what my class was, then realized that this is a dream that I'd had far too many times already, got really pissed off at my dreamscape and woke up on the spot. And then I was laying in my bed in pitch darkness and my lamp wouldn't turn on, so I turned on the flashlight on my phone and couldn't see the screen very well
06:25:33 ER: and the light didn't really help
06:26:04 ER: and then I got up and tried to walk around the house but I thought of my actual flashlight and that distarated me long enough to wake back up in my bed
06:26:38 ER: and then I could feel myself falling back asleep and tried to fight it, phasing in and out of conciousness
06:26:50 ER: and THEN I snapped to actually being awake
06:27:07 syv: Ohhh, one of those dreams where you "wake up" but are still asleep?
06:27:14 syv: ...And that happened *twice*?
06:28:12 ER: my dreams are always dark, I think because they're not very detailed and I just see anything I don't know as darkness
06:28:42 ER: when I turned on the flashlight, the light was on but didn't let me see anything else because there's nothing there...
06:29:01 syv: That is creepy and *really cool*
06:29:01 ER: and when I get scared of that darkness, things get a bit slapdash
06:30:09 ER: I don't think I've ever had a dream with a monster. I think a monster wouldn't be scary because it's solid and something I can just solve without caring like most obstacles in my drreams
06:30:29 ER: but I've never flipped a light switch in a dream and had it work...
06:31:01 ER: I don't really EXPECT it to work, and that makes it scary both before and after I try
06:32:01 syv: The monsters in my dreams are usually people. Not always, but usually. I've never had the darkness issue though, generally if there's an undefined part of the dream it becomes defind the moment it has my attention.
06:33:00 ER: Yeah, usually I have a nice agreement that we'll not worry about things too much in my dreams, but when I start DEMANDING those details, they're just not there
06:33:48 Devastator: Don't usually get monsters in my nighmares. It's always something else, like a sound or a vision or a thing, and it just hits my fear instinct. I suppose you could call that a monster.
06:34:01 Devastator: What I do get are episodic dreams.
06:34:48 ER: The closest to human antagonists are maybe a few times evading gunmen, but I'm not even scared of them. The closest thing to a monster is an object, probably a television or screen with a creepy, unseen influence inside of it
06:40:43 syv: The most terrifying dreams I've had, there was always something intrinsically wrong with reality itself. I used to have a recurring nightmare where I was trapped in a groundhog day-style timeloop which lasted about ten seconds. *That* was ungodly terrifying and made me scared to sleep.
06:41:38 syv: Antagonists, I'm usually worried about, and frustrated when I can't effectively fight them (I virtually always miss if I shoot any gun in a dream, which is just HORRIBLE), but they're almost never *terrifying*. Just unpleasant and scary.
06:43:00 Devastator: ooh, that sounds nasty.
06:43:39 syv: It also started as a really cool and pleasant dream.
06:44:20 syv: You know those really complex looping gifs that show a big production line or machine, that last five seconds or so but are so complex you can watch it for minutes and keep seeing new things?
06:45:19 syv: Basically, it started like that, with this really complex environment with floating point masses and switches and doors, all in motion, and it all was perfectly arranged to get one specific special mass to a goal point. Which it did flawlessly.
06:45:43 syv: I watched it, then thought "That was so cool! I want to see that again, I missed so much of it!"
06:46:05 syv: ...So it looped, and then looped, and it took me a fair few watches before I realized it wouldn't stop looping.
06:47:22 syv: The exact nature of it actually changed a lot, it was always new, but every time there was an inevitable sense of one thing going somewhere else, and when it reached its goal everything restarted, and no matter what I did I could not change it or affect it.
06:48:02 syv: Sometimes it was shifting bricks in a 3d grid, sometimes it was horsemen running around a maze, sometimes other things, but it was always always always a short time period, and inevitably reset.
06:48:12 syv: And it returned when I went back to sleep.
06:49:06 syv: I genuinely feel a bit disturbed and creeped out even now, this is legit the most terrifying dream I can ever recall having.
06:50:56 ER: well, it's a bit disturbing thinking of how convinced I was in reality when that reality was so... crude and undefined.
06:52:01 ER: what if *this* layer is obviously shoddy in some way I can't see? ;P
06:52:08 syv: Makes it extra scary because you *know* reality is wrong, and that in itself is worrying?
06:52:16 syv: Ahhh, we should watch Inception.
07:30:17 ER: beat shinobi hunter spear doofus, only ressurecting twice :P
07:31:29 ER: using the sabarimaru for some reason
07:32:31 syv: That thing is so damn sad.
07:32:42 syv: It's basically spiral passage except even more expensive.
07:32:58 syv: And spiral passage is just a slightly stronger but not-free floating passage.
07:33:18 ER: never did get poison on him
07:33:26 syv: Arggghh why must Sekiro have such boring design
07:33:45 syv: The combat is fun and very well done! But the techs and tools are so baaaad
07:34:31 ER: it might be ore fun if all that shit just... didn't have costs
07:34:43 ER: or had a set number of uses, like DS1 spells
07:35:16 ER: though DS1 has its fair share of very expensive and also uselsss spells
07:39:45 ER: so sad that owl is totally dead now
07:44:04 syv: Set number of uses would be good, yeah. A big issue is that so much shares costs, so using the axe is directly giving you less uses of shuriken or feathers or firecrackers.
07:44:52 ER: or they could just balance it not dumbly
07:45:41 ER: laxulite shuriken is a straight upgrade to normal shuriken. doulbe ichi is better than normal ichi. why is spiral cloud so bad, then?
07:54:55 syv: I think the techniques were defined mostly off of rule of cool and some vauge inspiration from martial arts.
07:56:02 syv: So spiral cloud and the other ultimate techs are designed to *look* like true ultimate moves, when that's not actually all that practical in the game.
07:56:21 syv: Though, seriously, why not just make the damn axe GOOD?
07:56:40 ER: if something has rule of cool, you have to make it actually do damage!
07:56:44 syv: They make heavy slamming attacks good in DaS! It's not that hard, and it wouldn't be OP!
07:57:28 syv: A lot of it does do decent damage. Dragon flash and one mind do good damage. It's just not at all worth it because the make you vulnerable way too long, and are too unreliable besides.
07:57:50 syv: Dragon flash at least is kinda like alternate shuriken, but then it's much slower...
07:58:03 ER: they should make all the enemies recoil in horror for a second as you charge up :P
07:58:17 syv: And then *everything* is just plain worse than mortal strike, because of course.
08:00:41 ER: ah. it's a good game, but a weird game
08:01:49 ER: everything besides R1, L1, dash and jump feel kind of pointless to the core design
08:02:12 syv: Yeah. And all that is absolutely flawlessly done.
08:02:17 syv: Which is so so irritating.
08:02:24 ER: sometimes the tools open up a small amount of delicious cheese, but they never make a big difference
08:02:50 ER: almost wish it were just a series of fights with those mechanics, right?
08:03:06 Devastator: need a game where you're a samurai and it's an endless sequence of duels.
08:03:40 ER: uh, what's the fighting game called?
08:03:42 syv: That is really just what Sekiro is if you don't choose to use tools or stealth.
08:04:32 ER: even the exploration, items, xp and gold kind of detract from that core gameplay
08:04:49 ER: I kinda like them the first time around, but that's not why I'm here, dammit!
08:05:32 ER: though it's kinda nice how you can pretty much stealth around most of the combats... ugh
08:05:51 syv: I haven't played a fresh newgame at all, it's too annoying to go through all the collection again.
08:06:12 ER: I mean, the stealth is better than in revengeance, and serves about the same purpose heere
08:07:33 ER: it's not GOOD stealth, but it's there
08:07:53 ER: sekiro is somewhere between that and metal gear
08:29:35 ER: you guys having fun with your rp, there?
08:30:50 syv: Ekrov is suddenly having it revealed to him that his love interest is insane.
08:31:28 ER: he should abandon her and go do some heroic crap for his country or whatever
08:32:23 syv: You don't abandon the mentally ill, you give them treatment.
08:32:34 syv: And he's got the ultimate mental treatment tool in his backpack.
08:32:43 ER: that's what the MEMORY SKULL is for~
08:33:40 syv: Oh yeah, did I mention that my jury duty got canceled?
08:33:55 syv: Seems like the entire city canceled jury duty that day.
08:34:17 Devastator: and anyway going to talk Ekrov into doing some heroic things.
08:34:21 syv: It's a county named after the city that mostly encompasses the county.
08:34:24 Devastator: got an angle that would make it much more believable.
08:35:42 syv: ...Ohhh, I can't enchant my lube to have the ferrous memento security enchants.
08:35:56 syv: No more permanent enchants.
08:40:43 Devastator: that seem more reasonable? It's like this place has real magic, and wherever saeko's from has some kind of ersatz thin magic.. there's more of it, but it's so much weaker.
08:41:28 ER: I dunno, still pretty much sounds like the distant past
08:42:40 Devastator: yeah, can see that.
08:42:46 Devastator: well, aybe she got stuck in stasis or something.
08:43:14 ER: hey, no stealing my very legit backstory! ;P
08:47:54 Devastator: "How is this something you are bad at." ;-p
08:47:57 Devastator: Nah, just too good.
08:50:04 syv: I like RP that involves magic demonstrations.
08:50:36 syv: Emphasizes that these are people with very alien and intuitive powers, that are casually useful to them.
09:02:16 syv: This cheese says it's American, but I question the validity of that.
09:02:44 syv: It doesn't actually say where it's made, even though it at least doesn't say "made in china". And it's yellow.
09:02:47 ER: how would you be able to tell? american cheese is worthless garbo anyways~
09:02:56 syv: Doesn't have any ID with a gold star, either.
09:03:56 syv: All the other cheeses seem fine just letting me assume they
09:04:17 syv: But this yellow one, it's gotta proclaim it. HMM.
09:06:07 syv: Yes, indeed, it tastes too good melted over meat. Must not be American.
09:06:25 syv: I will have to confine the rest of this "American" cheese soon. Within my stomach.
09:25:43 syv: Pity that I can't make room temperature plasma.
09:25:57 syv: I have no idea what I'd even do with that, but it's cool.
09:26:25 ER: uh, might be able to, with extreme enough conditions?
09:26:49 syv: But it's much harder than just getting some ice and some steam.
09:28:03 ER: you should test how wide of an area you can select. Could probaby get some super hot temperatures by swapping the heat of a huge area of air with a smaller object
09:28:25 ER: while maybe dangerously freezing that air, but hey
09:28:33 Devastator: use the universal lube to make a perpetual motion machine.
09:29:17 syv: That's an awesome idea, actually. It lets the lube act as a ranged attack.
09:29:31 ER: (pretty sure that's how they sling fireballs in Unsounded... ;P )
09:29:45 syv: Select a big ball of air that is in contact with your target, then swap its heat.
09:30:12 Devastator: don't you still have to touch said air?
09:30:28 syv: I think the main limit on area will be the fact that if I swap with a mountain, my lube is now locked for the next millenium.
09:30:38 syv: Good if I can use that to kill Telcal.
09:30:58 syv: Not so much if I'm testing "hum, what happens if I try *thiiiis*"
09:31:29 syv: But I don't have to touch *all* of it. Though, then, this is weird--I can't select half a stick.
09:31:39 syv: But I've done swaps with air, without selecting *all* the air.
09:32:04 syv: Need to play with the lube more.
09:32:12 Devastator: Telcal seems really hard to kill.
09:32:12 syv: (That name will never not be amusing)
09:32:16 ER: maybe when you select something very large it just takes time to "take", and in the few days we're all gonna get frozen in the atmosphere
09:32:20 Devastator: not going to happen soon.
09:37:15 syv: Why am I typing in the threadbox?
09:51:16 Devastator: I'm amused at being able to mesh such completely different things together.
09:53:31 syv: Anything is possible with the power of love!
09:53:47 syv: It enables easily accepting even the most far fetched justifications.
09:58:53 syv: Infatuation is just love that you later regret. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
10:00:19 Devastator: also, order of the stick.
10:01:25 syv: "I said I wanted lots of breadsticks! Order All The Sticks!"
10:03:45 syv: Ah. Yea. The goddess of the sky is dead.
10:03:54 Devastator: but we can find her body.
10:04:07 Devastator: and that doesn't mean we can't ask questions.
10:09:18 syv: Will you be sleeping today?
10:16:51 Devastator: contains intel from dubs.
10:27:26 syv: An unusually mature and crazy intelligent kid with ridiculous magical power, but a kid all the same.
10:28:45 Devastator: also, visiting Japan is basically begging to do the painting thing. ;-p
10:28:54 Devastator: just make it a painting of Japan.. ;-p
10:29:02 Devastator: I'll bring it up then.
10:40:52 Devastator: just had a really wretched way of saying things that I changed.
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11:03:20 syv: ** You are now disconnected (Connection reset)
11:04:42 syv: Posted, kind've a bleh ending but oh well.
11:06:07 syv: I wonder when Dubs will ask us to stop spamming RP so he can see the action posts.
11:06:21 syv: I think that's sixteen posts of teenage drama.
11:06:48 Devastator: eh, got one more of my own.
11:07:25 syv: Someday he'll be writing a post and scroll through the recent posts list, and see nothing but sappy RP.
11:07:50 syv: I can only imagine what that would do to his bones. The rattling might be audible all the way over here.
11:10:28 Devastator: got to ask about the albinism, because we'll be seperating after this turn.
11:14:07 syv: It's not exactly urgent, nor is the separation significant.
11:15:39 Devastator: and it kinda is, going to be flying after those two words.
11:15:45 Devastator: I'll ask when she's back.
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11:16:25 syv: I don't mind putting it in this action.
11:16:32 syv: Just me being eternally contrary.
11:17:04 Devastator: maybe I'll ask after next turn.
11:17:20 Devastator: yeah, that'd flow better.
11:17:23 Devastator: find out how the water works.
11:17:28 Devastator: then ask about it just before leaving.
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