00:28:25 Devastator: okay, what do you want?
00:28:30 Devastator: and how are you doing today?
00:28:51 ER: I should try to get a lot of sleep, probably
00:29:21 Devastator: and good luck with the sleep.
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01:08:01 Devastator: Huh, apparently russia was paying taliban members bounties on killing americans.
01:08:17 Devastator: and it's been known for months.
01:08:27 Devastator: good job trying to invite putin back to the G8, asshole.
01:19:19 piecewise: Shoulda cold wared theim
01:20:47 Devastator: you know what I mean, though.
01:20:58 Devastator: don't do special favors for people who do that.
01:21:25 Devastator: maybe the pee tape is real.
01:23:12 Devastator: it's speculation that on one of his visits to Russia, he did something awful in his hotel room, and Putin, having given him the suite he specifically gives visiting heads of state, had hidden cameras set up.
01:47:01 Devastator: that 200 gold per city,
PW?
02:21:32 piecewise: ye. or at least per location you decide to set up
05:12:59 Devastator: well, I'd like to do it, but I'm worried I'd get busy with running the place.
05:13:52 Devastator: that's some link,
piecewise.
05:13:57 Devastator: eh, might as well do all of them.
05:34:53 Devastator: 11 x 24 is 264 birds.
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06:04:08 MidJag: Kinda stressed. But that's about my average for right now.
06:05:09 Devastator: work's getting busy again.
06:06:27 Devastator: we're still down a person.
06:06:34 Devastator: need to be in early on Monday, and probably all days from there.
06:06:50 Devastator: lost some time while things were slow, but I've got more than enough work to need the time now.
06:08:16 MidJag: Yeah, part of my extended family is visiting this weekend, so life is a bit more hectic then usual.
06:13:46 MidJag: Anything intresting happening on your end?
06:14:39 Devastator: Cabal's going well.
06:17:10 Devastator: I'll be doing a battle this weekend.
06:17:28 Devastator: I really hope the players win this one. They should have a decnet chance.. it's in the US, and they rolled well for support again.
06:17:45 MidJag: My apologies I haven't had the mental energy to keep up with any forum games lately.
06:19:34 Devastator: yeah, nothing important happening other than forum games.. ;-p
06:21:22 Devastator: looking at the local covid update.
06:21:43 Devastator: I feel I really should explain why the "Vancouver Costal" health district is two non-contiguous areas.
06:22:20 MidJag: Doesn't look too bad all things considered.
06:22:26 Devastator: no, it's been excellent.
06:22:33 Devastator: there's five million people in BC.
06:23:30 MidJag: That's pretty impressive then.
06:23:53 Devastator: we're experiencing a very slight uptick from near zero over the last week or so.
06:23:56 MidJag: Canada is an excellent COVID insulating hat apparently :P
06:23:59 Devastator: but.. it's in control.
06:24:07 Devastator: Nah, they had bigger problems in other provinces.
06:24:59 Devastator: but in BC we're running at about 5% the case rate of Germany.
06:25:22 Devastator: but yeah, the non-contiguous areas.
06:26:20 MidJag: How'd you guys swing that?
06:26:28 Devastator: will find out later.
06:27:03 Devastator: my guess is because we had a large chinese population, got some early tests in, and found a really early case or two.
06:27:58 Devastator: and got on it pretty quickly, along with clear leadership.
06:28:09 Devastator: plus people took it really seriously.
06:28:36 MidJag: Fair. How densely populated is BC anyway?
06:28:51 Devastator: Vancouver is the densest city in Canada.
06:29:00 Devastator: The rest of the province is pretty sparse.
06:29:21 MidJag: huh, thought that was on the other end of Canada.
06:29:23 Devastator: I need a different map to explain it, just a sec.
06:29:41 Devastator: The biggest city is TO which is in southern ontario.
06:29:58 Devastator: The densest city is Vancouver.
06:31:02 MidJag: My apologies. I'm incrediblly bad at geography.
06:31:15 Devastator: yeah, BC is Geography, the Province.
06:32:49 Devastator: see the white area in the mainland, closer to the southwest corner?
06:33:16 Devastator: zoom in on that a bit.
06:34:18 Devastator: okay, if you draw a line that includes West Vancouver, and heads east to Coquitlam, and then across the river, including Langley, and then down to the border.
06:34:21 Devastator: that's half the population.
06:34:41 Devastator: well, you need Maple Ridge too.
06:35:27 MidJag: That's quite the denisty
06:35:59 Devastator: if you look at some of the detailed maps, you can see that all those communities on the north side run smack into mountains.
06:36:38 MidJag: Ah. Yeah, not great for building those things.
06:37:02 Devastator: of the remaining half of the population, half lives on the big island to the west of Vancouver.
06:37:36 Devastator: although somewhat less than half, really.
06:37:40 Devastator: but it's close enough.
06:37:53 MidJag: So your the half that ddoesn't exsist :P
06:38:28 Devastator: no, it's more than that.
06:38:37 Devastator: anyway, that island is about 2/3 the size of Alabama.
06:39:06 MidJag: I always forget just how big Canada is.
06:40:20 Devastator: anyway, half of what remains after vancouver island, lives in the remaining communities in the valley there, that white area east of that line I mentioned, and if you look a bit further inland, the area around Kamloops, Kelowna, Penticton, Summerland, up to Revelstoke, basically.
06:41:42 Devastator: take a look at the topographic map that includes Hope, say, which is just at the top end of the valley.
06:43:53 Devastator: in here they're not quite as packed, but generally the towns fill the valleys.
06:44:14 Devastator: you have some like the area south of Kamloops where they build up onto the mountains a bit, and ones like Merrit where only half of it is filled.
06:44:44 Devastator: Kamloops is a pretty big city. It's the largest one outside of the first two areas I mentioned.
06:45:44 Devastator: but yeah, you look at other areas, and they're just.. empty.
06:46:09 Devastator: because you've got mountains or swamplands.
06:46:20 Devastator: and the soil is awful, so you starve if you try to live there.
06:47:28 Devastator: anyway, should go back to the discontinuity.
07:23:40 Devastator: still haven't explained it despite discussing with
MJ for a while.
07:24:23 Devastator: Basically, that bit is part of the mainland accessable by road from the mainland.
07:24:33 Devastator: the bit that's part of the island district is only accessable by boat.
07:25:12 Devastator: Not that much sense.
07:25:16 Devastator: but more than nothing.
07:25:32 Devastator: There's also a lot of band issues, IIRC that make it more convienent.
07:26:13 MidJag: was trying to figure out what band issues meant.
07:29:16 Devastator: a bit weird, though, because the two areas are very different demographically. The southern part is basically full of high-end resorts, and the northern bit is depressed fishing towns and natives.
07:29:37 Devastator: high-end resorts and very wealthy elderly people.
07:30:11 Devastator: although it also includes Vancouver Proper, and Richmond.
07:30:26 Devastator: ahh, now I remember.
07:31:14 Devastator: it's part of attempting to break up the Greater Vancouver Regional District, because it's a hugely unwieldy construct that is too big to be properly managed like a regional district.
07:31:26 Devastator: (reshuffling mid-level government in BC.)
07:34:14 Devastator: yeah, it's complicated, but having a land management area where most of them have like 150,000 people in them, and one has 2.5 million is tough.
07:34:40 Devastator: it's also tricky because land management wise that's really where the borders should be drawn for it.
07:35:01 MidJag: Yeah that does sound tricky
07:35:24 Devastator: the city, the upper valley, and the mountain reservoirs.
07:35:28 Devastator: makes perfect sense.
07:37:13 Devastator: because it'd be insane for the cities to have seperate water management plans.
07:37:27 Devastator: really need someone to handle the big picture there.
07:38:58 MidJag: Heh, that would be an issue for sure.
07:39:09 Devastator: fortunately they thought that one through in advance.
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18:42:58 Devastator: there might be a nuclear meltdown currently ongoing.
18:43:08 Devastator:
piecewise, this year.
18:43:49 Devastator: Detected in Sweden so.. baltic russia.
18:44:12 Devastator: hopefully nothing much.
18:46:05 piecewise: I see it in the news here
18:46:11 piecewise: lets see the isotopes...
18:47:28 Devastator: Finns say not much radiation.
18:48:11 Devastator: Cs-134, Cs-137 & Ru-103
18:48:20 Devastator: but no info on levels, except finns say 'very low'
18:48:24 Devastator: so probably not bad.. yet.
18:49:06 piecewise: "very low" is something of an odd thing with radiation
18:49:40 Devastator: I'm aware. Looking for numbers.
18:50:58 piecewise: I wonder what form they'll show it in
18:51:03 piecewise: probably microcuries
18:51:19 piecewise: actually probably like nanocuries
18:51:50 Devastator: I remember seeing someone quote a number to me in berequels.
18:52:23 Devastator: But it was a big number! Five zeroes!
18:53:30 piecewise: I really only use Rad/Rem and/or Gray/Sievert
18:53:34 Devastator: Finland actually seems to have a live map
18:54:07 Devastator: looks like some high points of around .2 microseieverts/hour
18:54:29 piecewise: Radiation today sounds like a newspaper
18:54:55 piecewise: I wonder if these adjust for natural background
18:55:16 Devastator: for this sort of map, I'd expect it to not do that.
18:55:36 Devastator: but those numbers are nothing to worry about.
18:55:40 piecewise: Says on the page its.....05 to .30 micro Sieverts per hour.
18:56:23 piecewise: Looks like we got ourself a big nothing burger so far
18:56:38 Devastator: yeah, just some small radiation release for whatever reason.
18:56:39 piecewise: Though where these things are coming from is somethign to figure out
18:56:53 Devastator: either finland or baltic russia.
18:57:49 piecewise: This is how they found out about Chernobyl if memory serves. Caught a "Whiff" of it via wandering isotopes
18:57:52 Devastator: Man, every time I look at finnish it always hits me like some bizarre language.
18:58:10 Devastator: Yeah. Could well start this way.
18:58:37 piecewise: It's all very odd for me because I'm used to working with Massive number in comparison
18:58:38 Devastator: Hmm, maybe a russian sub.
18:58:50 Devastator: they have any nuke subs docked in the baltic?
18:59:02 piecewise: not my area of knowledge
18:59:20 piecewise: I assume there are probably still secret subs wandering to some degree
19:00:23 Devastator: the head of that department is saying that the monitoring stations are currently updating every ten minutes.
19:01:01 piecewise: its interesting just how well monitored the world really is for this sort of thing
19:01:12 piecewise: I'm pretty sure they have giant infrasound tracking stations too
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19:02:18 Devastator: anyway, it looks like nothing serious at this time.
19:02:22 parisbre56: oh, and don't look at the comments if you value your sanity
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19:06:03 Devastator: Putin officially denied any accident occured, so something probably happened.
19:06:26 Devastator: too quick for it to be otherwise. If they legitimately didn't know, he'd wait longer.
19:08:17 piecewise: I mean...no he wouldn't. Even if he didn't know, he'd still say there was nothing
19:08:29 piecewise: because he'd deny it even if it was true so
19:08:52 Devastator: Of course he'd deny it if he was true.
19:09:41 Devastator: but he'd still call someone, because if the situation is 'fireball over St. Petersburg', it just makes him look stupid.
19:10:37 Devastator: plus he'd want to know if the site manager or whatever is lying to him.
19:11:12 Devastator: Putin's not dumb enough to believe his own lies.
19:23:30 Devastator: it's 12 locations, not 11.
19:23:33 Devastator: no capital on that list.
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19:57:09 Devastator: just bad timing for the login, had much happier links earlier.
19:57:50 NJW: saw the stuff about Russian radiation. And the patriot in me would like to say that it might not be a Russian sub, it could be Trident!
19:58:11 Devastator: but it's an accident, otoh.
19:58:32 Devastator: plus there's been an official denial that there's any problem.
20:00:52 NJW: So, high hopes for the next Kaiju... might be able to steal some of that sweet sweet Kaiju meat
20:01:00 Devastator: Also, I'd expect a sub to be underwater unless docked.
20:01:10 Devastator: these seem to be airborne detections.
20:02:36 Devastator: and yes, decent odds for the next kaiju.
20:03:43 Devastator: not helped by all the AC-130s, though.
20:05:16 Devastator: they're basically flying artillery pieces that cost five times as much.
20:05:54 NJW: so the advantage is it's artillery that can move in and out of range faster?
20:06:26 Devastator: but you can buy one of
syv's planes for 200 and those are way better.
20:06:58 NJW: I see. And can I legally sell Kaiju meat in US diners?
20:07:35 Devastator: I'm normally selling only chunks, but I don't think I'd veto selling processed kaiju bits.
20:09:14 Devastator: maybe 4 or 5 per unit.
20:09:42 Devastator: maybe 2 per unit for the 10-value ones.
20:10:47 NJW: right. Not the best option then.
20:11:18 NJW: Ugh. I've got to get going, dinner with family. Might be on in a few hours, but would you be working then?
20:11:36 Devastator: I'm not working weekends currently.
20:12:10 NJW: Excellent. Gtg now, but see you ~12 GMT?
20:31:11 Devastator: big 'ol random spell storing wand with 'Always Casts Explosive Projectiles'
21:18:29 Devastator: 'always casts poison trail' flamethrower x5.
21:18:38 Devastator: and an acid trail spell.
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21:30:13 Devastator: is an 'always cast poison trail' wand good with flamethrowers?
21:35:56 Devastator: also, fair point for
RC.
21:36:17 Devastator: although if you take off the robot arms it might just be an exotic mount.
21:36:25 Devastator: I think some of the towns here have like beetles and what not.
22:14:57 ER: I hope that IS lets me ignore that deep mud
22:18:34 ER: I wonder if the bone-armor knights are in pairs specifically to thwart mindcontrol cheese
22:19:24 ER: because MC is single target and Primary
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23:09:08 NJW: #
Devastator - are you playing Noita?
23:22:26 Devastator: thought you weren't going to be back for the next hour.
23:22:35 Devastator: was taking a break outside in the lovely sun.
23:23:04 ER: oh yeah, that's the stoopid idea I had at work
23:23:45 ER: nekotic heaven: dead cats reincarnated as druggie undead catgirls in the afterlife
23:24:17 ER: and tasked with, I dunno, killing shit and doing drugs?
23:27:44 NJW: What kind of deity or psychopomp has that as their hustle?
23:28:49 Devastator: the one with the TV contract.
23:35:31 NJW: heya. How would your cat have died of?
23:35:43 NJW: WHAT would your cat have died of
23:36:25 Devastator: I will admit there's less fiction about cat -> catgirl than girl -> catgirl.
23:36:39 Devastator: although I'm sure
PW has a thousand things for me.
23:37:10 NJW: very little cat -> girlcat fiction
23:38:37 NJW: remember IronyOwl's RTD about wizards raising a princess?
23:40:10 Devastator: need someone else running a game like that.
23:40:14 Devastator: maybe 15% more serious.
23:40:48 NJW: I've been wondering if it might be equally whimsical and fun with an entire cohort of students
23:41:05 NJW: the players have to run a wizard academy
23:41:13 Devastator: I sorta wanted that kind of thing with Battlemobs.
23:41:18 Devastator: but that got too complicated for me.
23:41:29 Devastator: I didn't sort out the mechanics as fully as I did the ones in k-com.
23:44:08 NJW: right... if one tried to give it hard mechanics, that sort of thing could rapidly turn into a spreadsheet nightmare - classes with different traits, skills, etc, individual students, everything
23:45:31 Devastator: I sense sir elventide screaming somewhere.
23:47:39 NJW: Might be doable with a very minimal system. Mostly hidden mechanics so nobody can see how much one handwaves.
23:57:25 Devastator: Maybe just one individual but maybe fewer than eight or nine people?
23:58:28 NJW: Give the players a lot to do, perhaps, to keep their minds off traumatising the princess too fast.
23:58:38 NJW: Make 'em run the damn kingdom at the same time
23:58:51 Devastator: have the princess rotate, maybe.
23:59:16 Devastator: say three people get chances at the princess each turn, and the rest have to get ready for their turns.
23:59:22 Devastator: and she shuffles around the group.
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