00:04:30 animewhen: Or make things even worse!
00:04:57 ER: hell, that might be some character's motivations.
00:05:58 ER: maybe you're just some Primordial looking to slurp up some of that sweet Divinity and then scoot off from the dying world
00:06:32 animewhen: Well, whatever the case, I hope it gets more than 5 posts~
00:11:50 animewhen: I gave irony a torrent and he hasn't responded
00:12:09 ER: he can dl it quick, apparently
00:29:24 animewhen: I'll be back in an hour
00:51:12 Devastator: getting people together.
00:52:02 ER: think it's time we blow this thing
00:52:47 ER: get all the people and the stuff together
01:05:17 Devastator: I'm so tempted to just tell you guys what that unknown language is, but it'd be unrealistic.
01:05:41 ER: they can be dumb, I don't mind~
01:06:45 Devastator: yeah, it also isn't really important or anything.
01:07:09 Devastator: It isn't like "The language of magic" or anything.
01:09:37 Devastator: Dunno what that is.
01:12:42 Devastator: Mmm, that's somewhat similar.
01:12:46 Devastator: I'll give it to you for that guess.
01:12:57 Devastator: the guy took notes on the languages he found in some of the ruins he explored.
01:13:10 Devastator: it's fairly obscure information.
01:13:31 Devastator: ancient irish languages is somewhat similar.
01:26:36 Devastator: Still, makes me happy, though.
01:26:47 Devastator: because in some small way Zbridges now has a slightly wider view of the world.
01:34:36 animewhen is now known as piecewise
01:35:14 Devastator: but no, no
syv yet.
01:35:20 Devastator: and heya
Piecewise.
01:38:09 Devastator: Is the universal lube only useable by ekrov?
01:38:46 Devastator: and yes, got the show downloaded.
01:45:05 piecewise: Artifacts aren't generally restricted to their creator
01:45:57 ER: what method are most breakers?
01:48:07 piecewise: Gut Readers are common, as are Flesh Scrolls. Ascetics are still somewhat seen, but sculptors and Invokers aren't very common
01:49:01 ER: hmm. you told me scrolls were less common earlier ;p
01:49:15 Devastator: sculptors I can understand.
01:49:19 Devastator: but why no invokers?
01:50:39 ER: I guess all the sculptors are more busy off following their own personal quests to work for the state
01:50:56 piecewise: They're more of the artsy loners
01:51:25 ER: knowing how sculptors work metaphysically would be interesting
01:51:50 ER: though I guess you could just say it's [TRANCES]
01:52:35 ER: dorfs don't need any good explaination for occassionally blacking out and waking up a day later with something weird in their hands
01:53:15 piecewise: Thats basically what it is
01:53:29 piecewise: its honestly modeled off "Strange moods"
01:53:41 piecewise: right down to demanding difficult to get items
01:53:47 ER: is there a chance of fell moods?
01:53:59 Devastator: well, we had human. I think that took a skull.
01:54:07 Devastator: I think those are macabre in DF.
01:57:20 piecewise: if they get the right item
01:57:30 piecewise: the still beating heart of a child
01:57:45 ER: I guess the "something that came from beyond the skies" component of the UL would coresspond to Angelic
01:58:52 ER: Wouldn't that involve removing the heart before the trance starts?
01:59:30 ER: a fell mood would be having one of the components just be a living human, and then that human is consumed by the creation
02:00:19 piecewise: well then not exactly the same
02:00:43 piecewise: I don't think I'd have a player wake up in someone's house, covered in blood, holding a magic doohicky
02:00:50 piecewise: though now that I say that out loud
02:00:55 piecewise: I really want to do it
02:01:14 ER: it would probably break ekrov pretty well
02:01:57 ER: if he knew it was going to happen he would probably just refuse to make it, which wouldn't be fun for anyone because you can't change what materials you need until you make it
02:02:19 Devastator: well, it'd be fine, he's got plenty of words at the moment.
02:02:40 piecewise: Apparently someone got shot and killed over in CHAZ
02:03:26 piecewise: Their "Medics" tried to help
02:03:29 Devastator: not too bad, that was what, four weeks?
02:03:44 piecewise: these are the same medics who put a tourniquet on a small cut.
02:03:58 piecewise: I think its more like 2?
02:04:34 piecewise: so yeah, little under 3
02:04:59 piecewise: considering the number of untrained people wandering around with high power rifles in there, surprised it took that long
02:05:25 Devastator: not that many, though.
02:05:31 Devastator: been some fake pics going about.
02:05:49 piecewise: Oh no but we have video of Raz handing out guns
02:05:57 piecewise: and talking about how to properly get into fire fights
02:06:17 Devastator: Tis what happens with idiots with guns.
02:06:27 piecewise: No idea who shot who
02:06:31 Devastator: and to every idiot with guns, it's everyone else who is the idiots with guns.
02:07:55 piecewise: and there was a "No Cop Co-op" in there
02:07:57 ER: some idiots with guns are objectively more gun idiot that other idiots with guns
02:08:08 Devastator: but the dumbest ones always think it's someone else.
02:08:15 piecewise: that was recently taken over by force
02:08:49 Devastator: we find out that.. idiots over six square blocks in one american city is, somehow, not an existental threat after all.
02:08:54 piecewise: by some black lady activist and her cronies who threatened to "Burn the proprietors alive" if they didn't give them it.
02:09:30 piecewise: and as soon as news of it broke people began denouncing...the proprietors
02:10:05 piecewise: oh and apparently their "Farm" is now only for minorities because its failing and they need to ration it
02:10:31 ER: dunno why humans believe they're qualified to do things that superintelligences really should be handling
02:10:32 piecewise: whole place seems to be eating itself
02:10:42 Devastator: It's just normal,
PW.
02:10:52 Devastator: this isn't even on the scale of unusual.
02:11:27 Devastator: There's a long tradition of idiots in British Columbia arriving to do stupid shit like that out in the woods somewhere.
02:11:35 Devastator: maybe twenty, thirty people a year.
02:12:04 piecewise: oh no,I'm not trying to say anything about anything else
02:12:04 Devastator: the dumbest ones die, and most of them give it up after a few weeks and come back. Some end up being weirdos living off-grid for their livestyle.
02:12:12 piecewise: I'm just amused by this situation
02:12:20 Devastator: I mean, this is like really normal. I have some books on my shelf about some of these.
02:12:29 piecewise: because it seems to be borderline farcical
02:13:14 Devastator: Life on the edge, yeah.
02:13:53 Devastator: got one written by the daughter of a pair of them, who was born out in the bush, and didn't enter normal society until I think she was 14 or15.
02:15:13 Devastator: lotta hippies like that in Seattle too. Not surprised to hear it get stupid.
02:19:50 piecewise: early america had a lot of "Cities on a hill"
02:19:54 piecewise: none of which really worked
02:20:36 Devastator: happens, though, people always experiment with stuff.
02:33:43 Devastator: Huh, Duffy got cleared on the senate charges.
02:34:28 Devastator: Still been dirty-as-fuck for his career. Wonder what happened around that.
02:39:50 piecewise: Being corrupt has never stopped politicians before
02:40:39 Devastator: nah, just wondering why accuse Mike Duffy of something he didn't do, when the list of legitimate charges was so long.
02:40:50 Devastator: I mean, none of them were big things.
02:42:32 Devastator: Hell, when he got named to the senate I was amazed.. it was the best place for him. Somewhere for the lazy old party loyalists with corruption issues where they collect a salary and have no access to any kind of power.
02:48:19 Devastator: much better than jobs where stuff matters.
02:52:14 piecewise: I'm gonna be watching obscure anime over here. Lemme know what you also want to watch anime
02:53:34 piecewise: Its interesting when you see an anime that you can tell the animation style of from another anime
02:54:11 piecewise: Like the anime I'm watching now is clearly done by the same people as full metal alchemist
02:54:26 Devastator: original or the new one?
02:54:59 piecewise: def the original, maybe brotherhood
03:01:23 piecewise: that animation style is near identical
03:47:47 piecewise: Anime springs eternal
03:52:54 Devastator: so what's this one about?
03:53:29 piecewise: its about 22 minutes an episode~
03:53:59 piecewise: Really its about a giant fucking hole called the abyss and the people who explore it for stuff
03:54:31 piecewise: The protags are trying to reach the bottom
03:54:53 Devastator: so it's a race to the bottom?
03:54:59 Devastator: I vaguely remember some stuff with it.
03:55:12 piecewise: not really a race no
03:55:28 Devastator: some anime-ish ontological stuff.
03:56:13 piecewise: I'd rate it as 97% good, 3% questionable japanese disease.
03:57:03 Devastator: so naked children, then?
03:57:13 Devastator: but only in freeze-frames?
03:58:23 piecewise: basically. The show is pretty unflinching with its portrayal of hardships. So at one point the girl vomits on herself and is unconscious and the boy removes most of her clothing to wash it.
03:59:13 Devastator: I can't belive I called something like that.
04:01:00 piecewise: It is what it is. Its never played for titillation though, as far as I'm concerned. Its mostly just like "Here is events that occur."
04:01:13 Devastator: Yeah, it doesn't sound like that.
04:01:24 ER: this is part of why I thought we should have you here,
PW
04:02:22 piecewise: Made in abyss is one of those shows that I like but it has annoying stuff that seems to be there for questionable reasons
04:02:43 piecewise: but the fact that there isn't a lot makes the instances of it stand out
04:03:15 piecewise: I still think its worth it for the interesting world
04:09:29 Devastator: yell at
pw for what?
04:09:41 piecewise: normal degenerate reasons
04:10:30 ER: in addition to the usual abuse about his GMing mistakes <3
04:10:58 Devastator: I like your GMing,
PW.
04:11:04 Devastator: even when I'm abusing you.
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04:29:45 syv: People should send me, like, PMs or DMs or something if they want me to show up for something.
04:30:37 Devastator: ahh, shit, sorry
syv.
04:31:41 syv: Hopefully he'll be here soon so I'm not the last to show up. >.>
04:31:42 Devastator: I could have sent you a message.
04:31:55 Devastator: go haul Irony in here, and we should be ready to go.
04:33:14 Devastator: can you get Irony for us, please?
04:33:23 piecewise:
ER already yelled at him
04:34:51 piecewise: they cut the intro out?
04:35:02 ER: I could have poked you,
syv, but i was complacant and lazy
04:35:26 syv: Looks like there is an intro, though it starts six and a half minutes in.
04:35:37 Devastator: yes, mine says that length too.
04:35:41 syv: Pretty sure this is the torrent you gave me, too.
04:35:53 piecewise: my ep 1 is 24:40 so maybe they cut the end off yours
04:36:23 syv: There's an ED starting at 22:00, so no?
04:37:13 piecewise: We'll see. I've seen it already so I'll just skip to where you are if needed
04:37:27 syv: It wouldn't be IRC anime if we didn't have weird torrent troubles. :P
04:37:50 piecewise: my eps are from an older torrent not the one I gave you so
04:38:54 piecewise: I ain't downloading your filthy dual audio
04:39:35 ER: the skeleton established its rank as alpha weeb
04:40:06 Devastator: wait, you work with radiation, right?
04:40:09 Devastator: clearly gamma weeb then.
04:42:25 piecewise: so how long till we abandon the moth
04:42:30 syv: AFK 'cause this chair is terrible, beep me when I should return.
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04:44:26 IronyOwl: Discord and IRC were both bullying me
04:45:34 Devastator: get your butt back in your seat.
04:45:41 Devastator: we be getting rolling once everyone's ready.
04:45:46 ER:
syv Devastator piecewise IronyOwl
04:46:32 piecewise: Leaving is what made him come
04:48:25 Devastator: are either of these kids going to be as good as indestructo-boy in Laputa,
Piecewise?
04:48:27 IronyOwl: they're children, so yes
04:48:29 piecewise: they are what you call "Children"
04:48:51 syv: Even for kids these look inhuman
04:49:05 ER: would be cooler if they were gnomes
04:49:23 piecewise:
sy would recognize his own kind
04:49:31 Devastator: we should name them.
04:49:49 IronyOwl: how fast can a gnome mine, I wonder
04:49:57 Devastator: 1/2 speed of a dwarf.
04:50:03 Devastator: I think they get +2 instead of +4.
04:50:09 syv: This girl is gonna get herself killed.
04:50:33 IronyOwl: also this is some pokemon shit
04:50:35 Devastator: well, she's ambitious.
04:50:43 IronyOwl: smol girl already worrying about rank
04:51:21 Devastator: and yes, that looks like a pokemon too.
04:51:33 syv: Makes me think Monster Hunter.
04:51:37 Devastator: that move doesnt' do any damage.
04:51:42 Devastator: so it is tail whip.
04:51:58 Devastator: okay, that was some tumbling.
04:52:25 Devastator: someone bring a gun?
04:52:51 Devastator: I don't use that heretical nomenclature.
04:53:38 Devastator: robo-boy is clanks.
04:53:54 IronyOwl: "how cool, he's not human," hah
04:53:54 Devastator: she's like permanently caffinated.
04:54:41 Devastator: maybe she is a dwarf.
04:54:44 Devastator: heavy load and all that.
04:54:50 piecewise: the OST is by a guy named Kevin
04:54:51 Devastator: it's just translated to human. ;-p
04:54:59 Devastator: I like Kevin for the boy.
04:55:04 Devastator: he looks like a kevin.
04:55:07 Devastator: just there for the ride.
04:55:22 Devastator: Kevin Macallister wasn't dumb.
04:55:46 Devastator: I could go with Quote for the robot.
04:55:57 Devastator: No, Kvothe still has a claim on that.
04:56:13 piecewise: (because thats his name)
04:56:15 Devastator: Only if his name isn't Reg.
04:56:18 syv: How is there a SMALLER person?
04:56:30 IronyOwl: it's smol all the way down!
04:56:34 IronyOwl: now carry more shit you little brats
04:56:39 Devastator: the characters have to be sufficiently awesome to get their real names.
04:56:48 IronyOwl: ooh, I like that system
04:57:44 IronyOwl: I thought they'd use a bucket on a rope, but that's probably a better idea!
04:57:50 Devastator: seems too smart to be a stooge, so can't use one of those.
04:58:03 syv: The hell is with this classroom?
04:58:09 IronyOwl: good work, except that ditz who excavated nothing and almost got eaten
04:58:09 Devastator: lack of floorspace.
04:58:30 piecewise: I mean, they're orphans being trained to scavenge a giant hole. Gotta get rid of that fear of heights
04:59:07 Devastator: I'm gonna call her Safe.
04:59:27 Devastator: and Natch for the boy who is her follower.
04:59:45 Devastator: I'm ok with quote for robot-boy.
04:59:52 IronyOwl: you don't give a shit why both of em are alive?
05:00:24 syv: They're kids. They're expendable.
05:00:25 piecewise: Orphans are easy to come by
05:01:38 Devastator: Safe is the right name for her.
05:02:34 Devastator: Wow, nice room for an orphan.
05:02:53 Devastator: Even more perfect for safe.
05:03:02 IronyOwl: like redshirts but you don't wanna waste fancy textiles on em
05:03:20 IronyOwl: and there's not a single scratch
05:03:24 IronyOwl: you were just fucking cutting him?
05:03:40 Devastator: if it bleeds it isn't a robot!
05:03:42 syv: Science requires stabbing!
05:03:56 piecewise: you mentioned indestructo-boy but Reg truly is
05:04:12 Devastator: that kid was something else.
05:04:19 Devastator: like something else.
05:05:26 Devastator: here they might look up.
05:05:45 Devastator: he only looks a little like bonk.
05:06:00 IronyOwl: hopefully some kind of horrifying biomechanical cyborg assassin
05:06:36 IronyOwl: boy that's gonna create some odd sounds
05:06:41 ER: little kid cyborg assassain?
05:06:46 ER: nah, that could never happen~
05:06:57 IronyOwl: "I heard the brat shouting gleefully from what sounded like outside her room, now she's gone"
05:07:43 Devastator: It might be possible that nobody voluntarily hears her anymore.
05:08:08 syv: That's a pretty boring name.
05:08:10 IronyOwl: it must be so absurdly easy to hide bodies round here
05:08:14 syv: Just call it the great pit.
05:08:33 syv: Like people living on Big Hill.
05:08:50 ER: "the abyss" is a pretty auspicious name
05:09:03 syv: Abyss is a much better name.
05:09:36 syv: That's not how clouds work.
05:09:49 piecewise:
Sy they actually do explain stuff like that
05:10:05 syv: This song was really nice right until they started singing.
05:10:14 piecewise: the abyss ain't just a big hole
05:10:28 Devastator: ..that's exactly what it looks like.
05:10:52 piecewise: I mean it is a big hole, but thats not ALL it is
05:10:54 syv: This is really peppy for the lyrics.
05:11:15 Devastator: mmm, so they've been 4000m deep.
05:11:20 Devastator: that's pretty solid.
05:12:49 Devastator: The Truth is Down There.
05:12:52 syv: a compass that just points down is pretty boring.
05:12:53 Devastator: but that is a weird thing.
05:12:59 syv: That's... kinda easy to make.
05:13:00 Devastator: you know what that is,
syv?
05:13:02 IronyOwl: I like
Dev's "nobody voluntarily hears her anymore" theory
05:13:03 ER: lets all jump into the big hole and become as gods
05:13:13 Devastator: you can see where it works.
05:13:25 syv: She said it points down, no?
05:14:00 ER: FROM WHICH THERE IS NO ESCAAAAPE
05:14:03 Devastator: although if it's unaffected by ordinary momentum, that'd be neat.
05:14:30 syv: Gonna need to step through that OP at some point.
05:14:30 Devastator: PMMM had a sparkly opening.
05:14:43 Devastator: mmm, high air pressure.
05:14:55 Devastator: mmm, so you turn into monster as you go down.
05:14:56 IronyOwl: ooooh, mutations and death
05:15:17 piecewise: Its not as you go down, its if you try to go Back up
05:15:21 Devastator: well, we have brains there.
05:15:59 piecewise: yeah, thats what they said. Descending is fine, but returning is where the curse hits
05:16:05 IronyOwl: ...did you try starving him?
05:16:18 IronyOwl: how do you know he runs on food OR electricity?
05:16:48 Devastator: Safe has no safeword.
05:17:13 Devastator: ..why is it always 'conceal existance'
05:17:14 ER: how do you plan to dismantle that
05:17:24 IronyOwl: wonder what army intends to take that apart
05:17:25 Devastator: "We have a great new find!"
05:17:35 syv: Because there's no good parents in Anime,
Dev.
05:18:10 IronyOwl: you guys are bad at lying
05:18:13 IronyOwl: fortunately, he's bad at caring
05:18:17 Devastator: actually this is pretty good.
05:18:27 Devastator: kid's doing a great job.
05:19:05 IronyOwl: well that was absurdly easy
05:19:21 Devastator: they might well do that all the time.
05:19:36 Devastator: also, you think the headmistress is a mutant?
05:19:38 syv: There's the random fetish shit.
05:20:02 syv: She doesn't look like a potato, so yes.
05:20:04 IronyOwl: nature hardcore like dat
05:21:11 IronyOwl: extendo arm in 3... 2...
05:21:48 piecewise: this place needs guardrails badly
05:21:51 Devastator: You get a bell to start off with.
05:21:54 Devastator: and then red whistles.
05:22:02 piecewise: no wonder there are so many orphans
05:22:13 Devastator: they did say her mom fell.
05:22:21 Devastator: so is birddragon safe's mom?
05:22:24 IronyOwl: everyone's so eager to hurl themselves down a pit, they never even think somebody might do it on accident
05:22:24 piecewise: well, her mom is in the abyss
05:22:34 syv: Does make sense. The city is built on the edge of a giant hole that kills people who climb out of it.
05:22:57 Devastator: just need someone with a human word.
05:23:07 syv: Wow, they don't even have real fences.
05:23:51 Devastator: "Liza the Annhiliator"
05:24:03 IronyOwl: mutated beyond repair
05:24:31 IronyOwl: speaking of surpassing human limitations
05:24:33 Devastator: mmm, so that's safe's mom.
05:24:34 IronyOwl: that is one hell of a nose
05:24:49 piecewise: The penguin in his side job
05:26:15 ER: then you're a white whistle
05:26:40 Devastator: that's a lot of headpats.
05:27:09 syv: "Stop being unhappy and enjoy yourself, idiot." >:(
05:28:09 IronyOwl: "Your mother was a glutton, thug, liar, and drunk. Cheer up!"
05:28:25 syv: "Let me give you a pep talk. Your mother was fucked. And you're a creep. Happy now?"
05:28:50 Devastator: I see what you mean by no good parents in anime.
05:28:58 IronyOwl: sending pregnant women to the fourth lair, jeez
05:29:18 Devastator: I don't know, since hair = power in anime, I don't think they could stop her.
05:29:31 piecewise: she got pregnant AND gave birth in one expedition
05:30:21 Devastator: this backstory is a bit over the top.
05:30:45 syv: And just dropping this on this kid.
05:30:45 Devastator: I mean, Madoka earned it.
05:30:53 Devastator: eh, tis for the audience.
05:31:21 syv: He's still an absolute ass.
05:31:29 Devastator: although someone should do this over time.
05:31:38 Devastator: it's all stuff she should know at some point.
05:31:58 syv: Maybe not all at once, which she's twelve, and sad.
05:31:59 Devastator: How could you tell?
05:32:20 Devastator: I don't think you can stab a hole.
05:32:51 ER: hey, if her eyes weren't shielded from curse maybe the brain is cursed too
05:33:09 piecewise: got a bad case of wacky brain
05:33:18 Devastator: you know what I mean, stabbing won't hurt a hole.
05:33:56 ER: it might hurt the hole if there's some difference in size between the hole and stabbing implement
05:34:21 Devastator: I think that gonna take a pretty serious stabber.
05:34:27 piecewise: These episodes pass fast eh?
05:34:30 ER: heyy, we didn't get to tattend the festival
05:34:48 IronyOwl: time passes when you're watching a caffeinated gnome deal with subterranean horrors
05:34:51 ER:
syv screams as much as a skeleton
05:35:03 Devastator: well, knowing what I do with anime, the bright closing and opening means it'll get really dark.
05:35:08 piecewise: this cutesy ending is sure gonna look weird later...
05:35:17 Devastator: someone couldn't go up all the way.
05:36:13 piecewise: Lemme go pee and I'll be ready for 3
05:36:20 syv: This is a pretty good show.
05:36:22 ER: sure, you could have all your elements support your central theme, but where's the fun in that?
05:36:25 syv: Well based, good animation.
05:36:34 syv: Wish it didn't star potatoes, but oh well.
05:36:34 Devastator: yeah, it looks pretty solid.
05:36:48 syv: I'm gonna grab something to nom
05:37:02 IronyOwl: popcorn or small children?
05:38:06 Devastator: got some potato chips.
05:38:15 ER: may as well scrounge for some food meself
05:38:25 piecewise: I got my sister's cookies
05:39:03 piecewise: she made them as a gift to the wedding guests
05:39:43 piecewise: Double chocolate chunk and chai cinnamon
05:39:52 Devastator: Also, even despite the litany of indestructability, I think indestructo-kid was still tougher.
05:40:00 Devastator: he survived a city falling from the sky.
05:40:23 IronyOwl: I have only this delicious cat sitting on my leg
05:41:32 IronyOwl: so of course they let her see it, and she instantly steals it
05:41:37 IronyOwl: nobody who knows her is surprised
05:41:50 IronyOwl: probably nobody who knew her mother is surprised
05:41:55 Devastator: maybe they figure Safe will be the only one dumb enough to try.
05:42:20 syv: It'd be better if she tried when she's twice as old...
05:42:42 Devastator: if you're just going down, small children might be better.
05:42:58 IronyOwl: what makes you say that?
05:43:15 Devastator: better carrying capacity for size, and can take short-distance falls better.
05:43:28 Devastator: plus you can lower less supplies if you're resupplying from the top.
05:43:42 IronyOwl: child soldiers: the way of the future!
05:44:26 Devastator: besides, it's anime.
05:45:04 syv: Notable that the subs show japanese translations of the fake language text. But not English.
05:47:08 Devastator: skulls for the skull god.
05:47:29 Devastator: oh man, that's bringing back memories.
05:47:41 syv: He doesn't even have a birthday.
05:48:18 IronyOwl: I mean, he might be immune to the curse, so it could work out
05:48:42 IronyOwl: not doin so hot, eh Caffeine?
05:48:44 Devastator: but na, the memories were that I used to invent stuff like that.
05:50:29 IronyOwl: even by anime standards this feels like a bad idea
05:51:28 Devastator: also, he got his whistle!
05:51:48 piecewise: he went on his first scavenge!
05:52:07 Devastator: oh good, was hoping for some exposition.
05:52:14 Devastator: (am serious, actually.)
05:54:12 Devastator: well, she mentioned seven layers.
05:54:49 IronyOwl: somebody MUST have implied this to her at some point
05:54:58 piecewise: sure, but no one yelled it at her
05:55:05 Devastator: right before she's going down.
05:55:11 Devastator: ..that's a light pack.
05:55:16 ER: she doesn't care about what people who aren't her freinds say
05:56:23 ER: you know, if that manga has taught me anything, it's that you actually can survive indefinately inside of a dungeon
05:56:44 IronyOwl: only if you're an excellent chef!
05:56:46 Devastator remembers when food timers were supposed to be harsh in roguelikes.
05:56:53 Devastator: and have an adamantium saucepan.
05:57:09 piecewise: admittedly RL's rarely let you just eat everything you kill
05:57:30 Devastator: Many of them do, but they don't spawn enough to keep you fed entirely.
05:58:00 ER: but hey, maybe part of being a white whistle is being a good scavenger and cook, so her mom actually survived like 10 years
05:58:09 Devastator: "There aren't any toilets in that room."
05:58:58 IronyOwl: aw nice, Suicide Point in the slums
05:59:08 Devastator: they got indestructo-kid.
05:59:15 Devastator: well, no, not really.
06:00:28 IronyOwl: I'll just send infinite balloons nobody will believe
06:00:53 syv: She has a white whistle, so she can send a message people will believe.
06:02:00 Devastator: I don't want to stop here.
06:03:20 syv: Cries like a Gantz character.
06:04:01 piecewise: STOP HAVING ADVENTURES YOU FUCKING KIDS
06:04:06 IronyOwl: "SHUT UP YOU JACKASSES I'M TRYIN TA SLEEP UP HERE!"
06:04:07 syv: I actually burst out laughing
06:04:22 Devastator: YOU ARE THE THIRD ONES THIS WEEK
06:05:20 IronyOwl: guess the cute ran out
06:05:23 IronyOwl: only suffering in the dark now
06:05:24 Devastator: well, no way I'm stopping there.
06:06:47 syv: Yup, in case you forgot this over the last week. Somehow.
06:06:50 IronyOwl: not sure I've seen a lot of wit outta this crowd so far
06:07:00 Devastator: Brains had some wit.
06:07:10 piecewise: wit enough to have a map
06:08:20 Devastator: mmm, saw what looked like some robotic soldiers.
06:08:28 syv: I increasingly want to see it, though I presume I'll hate it.
06:08:52 Devastator: I doubt they're gonna stay human enough for bunny to stand out.
06:09:11 IronyOwl: arm tripwire tent, the only way to sleep!
06:09:14 syv: Safe and robot will stay human.
06:09:29 syv: They only go furry upon going up, right?
06:09:57 Devastator: no particular idea.
06:09:57 syv: At this point Word would at least be amusing.
06:11:24 Devastator: Man, life as a fish in that body of water must suck.
06:11:39 syv: Hey,
piecewise, does this show's plot wrap up in the first season?
06:11:40 Devastator: you didn't need two of them..
06:11:44 IronyOwl: just swimming in place waiting for some horribly monster and/or robot to murder you
06:11:52 syv: Or is it another anime which will never finish?
06:12:02 Devastator: you know, they should have some really high-end spices here.
06:12:18 piecewise: It doesn't finish, but it reaches a good "End". There's a sequel movie coming out soon actually
06:12:21 IronyOwl: I wonder if he just crunches up fish bones
06:12:26 Devastator: valuable trade goods.
06:12:40 IronyOwl: aha, he called her on it
06:12:51 Devastator: ..you didn't try that?
06:13:30 syv: Man, that is such an accurate depiction of a child.
06:14:23 Devastator: so it's intentional then.
06:15:21 IronyOwl: ...is he gonna be able to follow them?
06:15:21 Devastator: well, you lost your up/down rock.
06:15:50 ER: knowing how weird this place is, maybe knowing up from down will be really useful later
06:16:04 syv: Recovered pretty well from it too.
06:16:47 syv: "What is 5this white stuff on my hand?"
06:17:56 ER: "yay, we reached the point which is considered suicide! nobody will come after us now!"
06:19:10 IronyOwl: alternatively, it's occurred to him that this is literal suicide for at least one of you
06:19:25 ER: yeah but it's not him so why cares
06:19:26 syv: New powers as the plot demands.
06:19:33 ER: also she can just live at the bottom
06:19:46 IronyOwl: well okay, not suicide per se
06:19:56 IronyOwl: assuming the beasties don't get her
06:19:57 piecewise: his zooming eyes were already talked about earlier actually
06:20:00 Devastator: not necessarily. Said they wouldn't come after the red whistle.
06:20:20 Devastator: but if the red whistle comes up without help, it should be fine.
06:21:29 Devastator: black whistle would know the hand signals.
06:21:53 piecewise: I guess its just an artifact of the fact that japanese people don't really find nudity as taboo. Public baths and such
06:22:23 Devastator: mmm, so he's got a speed mutation.
06:22:48 syv: And yet all their porn has mosaics.
06:22:58 piecewise: I like how they always show her hair hitting people she bows to
06:23:57 IronyOwl: another few days of not eating cave mutants
06:23:58 Devastator: Squareface Chippendale.
06:24:07 ER: he said not to wait too long before eating them, so of course they will and they'll get mold
06:24:54 IronyOwl: she gon' call her bitch ass mom out
06:25:05 Devastator: who calls a rabbit "The immovable?"
06:25:20 IronyOwl: everyone seems weirdly okay with this
06:25:30 Devastator: short life expectancy.
06:25:38 syv: Maybe it's just normal for kids to commit suicide like this.
06:25:49 IronyOwl: I mean, it was normal for their parents I guess
06:25:50 ER: there's lots of humans, they're expendable. and it's not uncommon to have an obsession with The Deep
06:25:53 syv: Alternately, you have to be a bit insane to get as high rank as him.
06:26:19 IronyOwl: that last part is probably exceedingly true
06:26:46 syv: Corpses were 2000 years.61
06:27:08 syv: His arm does make the best sounds.
06:27:28 Devastator: so where's the depth finder?
06:27:57 IronyOwl: does he have an umbrella?
06:28:21 piecewise: he does, but remember they mentioned something called "Iron rain"
06:29:01 piecewise: Stop here or go one more?
06:29:04 Devastator: hmm, so rabbit is pretty high up.
06:29:15 Devastator: Yeah, sure, one more.
06:29:18 piecewise: I'm good for one more
06:30:03 Devastator: hasn't been that much hardship yet.
06:30:16 IronyOwl: yeah we're a third of the way through and nobody but her mom has died yet
06:30:28 Devastator: and anime moms are pretty fragile.
06:30:44 piecewise: not as bad as disney parents
06:30:44 syv: This was a pretty tough mom.
06:31:03 syv: That's an awesome name for a mother.
06:31:14 piecewise: wait till you see her signature weapon.
06:31:22 IronyOwl: "Lyza the War Criminal, perpetuator of the genocide of Weird Mushroom Things" didn't have quite the same ring to it
06:31:24 syv: Egan, you should play an old lady who came out of retirement to kill monsters, with that name, sometime.
06:31:45 syv: Specifically after her kids grewup and left.
06:32:00 Devastator: it's gonna be a gunhalberd, isn't it?
06:32:37 ER: I don't think I've ever played a character with kids, really
06:32:40 syv: RWBY sucks but that is the best goddamn weapon
06:32:56 ER: well, it's not anything I'd ever do, so it's not obvious to me...
06:33:04 piecewise: I prefer the no more heroes version thats a scythe sniper
06:33:07 Devastator: aww, RWBY-themed game was fun.
06:33:15 ER: they're always either youngsters, weird loners, or both
06:33:21 syv: Plus it's not actually playing a parent, since the kids are explicitly not with her.
06:33:23 IronyOwl: so I wonder what percentage of these monsters are humans or other things that mutated trying to ascend
06:33:33 Devastator: Rothfuss is doing a spinoff story about a hero who had kids.
06:34:00 Devastator: basically she had kids, they grew up, and after they left the house, she decided to say 'fuck it, I'm having adventures'
06:34:53 IronyOwl: somebody needs your help
06:34:56 IronyOwl: Safe is useless in a fight
06:35:03 IronyOwl: or for rescuing stranded climbers
06:35:08 Devastator: I'm so glad we're actually calling her safe.
06:35:13 ER: someone just needs to give her a sword
06:35:51 IronyOwl: that is a lot of bugs
06:35:54 Devastator: well, they seem to have lifecycles.
06:35:56 IronyOwl: and yes, it's a pokemon
06:35:59 Devastator: so not all people ascending.
06:36:11 IronyOwl: well, could be their descendants
06:36:18 Devastator: take the shot. take the shot.
06:36:42 piecewise: is there a pokemon that mimics the death rattles of their prey to draw in more?
06:36:50 IronyOwl: dunno about that specifically
06:36:54 syv: Not that I know, but probably...
06:37:00 Devastator: There are enough of them they had to give up!
06:37:07 IronyOwl: but there's a spider that lets prey get away so it can attach strands to them and follow them back to their loved ones
06:37:13 Devastator: The full roster is no more.
06:37:15 syv: There's some pretty nightmarish pokemon, yeah.
06:37:17 ER: there are some pretty dark pokedex entreis
06:37:23 syv: And that's not al; that crazy an idea.
06:38:02 Devastator: "You're not supposed to be smart like that!"
06:38:21 IronyOwl: is it killing her by ascending?
06:38:31 piecewise: its certainly hurting her
06:38:41 Devastator: looks like standard kid feeding, but yeah, ascending.
06:38:50 ER: well, they wouldn't want to kill right away
06:38:52 Devastator: Autobots: Roll out!
06:38:57 ER: need their screams to mimic
06:39:24 Devastator: that looks a bit bigger than a scorching ray.
06:39:50 Devastator: I think that looks like a D
06:40:00 Devastator: pretty high AP too.
06:40:19 Devastator: I see why they called it "Incinerate"
06:40:27 Devastator: mmm, maybe D/B or D/A, then.
06:40:33 Devastator: OPM wants you, show.
06:40:49 IronyOwl: only reason Safe's alive, twice now
06:41:25 syv: That's not as bad as I expected.
06:41:27 Devastator: "I mean, I stuck a stick up your ass."
06:41:59 Devastator: Mmm, that might be a C with that scale then.
06:42:21 ER: can he kill evangelion angels?
06:42:46 IronyOwl: that's a weirdly sophisticated point from her
06:42:53 Devastator: they don't call her safe for nothing.
06:43:04 IronyOwl: last time he used the beam he passed out until they tazed him
06:43:13 Devastator: whoops, that's right.
06:43:17 ER: that's gotta use some energy
06:43:20 Devastator: does he need another shock, or just a lot of time?
06:44:22 syv: Arrow pointing at his penis in the book.
06:44:34 Devastator: mmm, she's losing a lot of stuff today.
06:44:36 IronyOwl: robodick is a brand new discovery
06:44:54 syv: They tazed him after he woke up, actually.
06:45:24 Devastator: You ain't ever escaping that, boy.
06:45:36 IronyOwl: definitely dungeon meshi
06:46:02 IronyOwl: hrm, the meat would also go bad
06:46:09 IronyOwl: ciiiiiiiiircle of liiiiiiiiiiiife
06:46:13 Devastator: "Where do you think most of the meat in the city comes from?"
06:46:18 ER: cycle of life mother fucker
06:47:05 IronyOwl: did she just claim to grow big and strong off cannibalism
06:47:16 Devastator: now imagine if it literally works that way.
06:47:20 piecewise: not direct cannibalism
06:47:29 piecewise: just...eat the things that eat people
06:47:44 IronyOwl: man this must be a complete pain in the ass without robot grappling hooks
06:47:46 Devastator: well, still no gravitational fuckery.
06:47:46 ER: there was a human corpse there
06:47:47 syv: She assuaged his worries about eating a monster by pointing out that they're technically only eating people.
06:47:48 piecewise: one degree of separation is good enough~
06:47:48 IronyOwl: you guys should probably invent those
06:47:56 Devastator: eh, there are some pretty good climbing gear.
06:48:18 Devastator: Yes, that would be sweet.
06:48:29 IronyOwl: yeah, sucks that you can't take all this loot with you :(
06:49:50 Devastator: robots don't need clothes, silly.
06:50:12 Devastator: "And it never showed up while you were sleeping"
06:50:29 Devastator: aim at the squishy!
06:50:50 Devastator: don't you know? Always target the magic-user first.
06:51:06 ER: technically he's the magic user
06:51:14 IronyOwl: on the bright side, if you fall maybe the wind will blow you back to safety
06:53:12 syv: For a very interesting definition of "cool", perhaps.
06:53:19 Devastator: gonna dress up some maids for the mansion, btw. ;-p
06:53:41 syv: That at least, makes sense.
06:54:08 IronyOwl: half-white hair, like the headmistress
06:54:19 Devastator: nobody calls a rabbit 'the immovable.
06:54:31 ER: man, that was all the Incinerator episode? this show is pretty efficient, actually
06:55:02 syv: Not sure if it's PM3 tier yet, but it's still doing excellent.
06:55:18 Devastator: Mmm, I'd say it's a bit below PM3. But definately worth watching.
06:55:19 piecewise: it's nice because it keeps going but doesn't feel rushed
06:55:23 Devastator: wonder who the fourth will be.
06:55:42 Devastator: good. I like it too.
06:56:02 Devastator: so.. when do we do this next?
06:56:12 piecewise: I'm good whenever, just let me know
06:56:29 Devastator: a couple more tomorrow,
syv?
06:57:04 piecewise: there's only 13 eps so we can get this done in like 2-3 nights
06:57:23 Devastator: PM3 was just a bit more of a gut-wrencher.
06:57:27 ER: the theme of wanting to GO DEEPER made me think of that excellent video
06:57:55 syv: Abyss seems like a good anime to turn into a game.
06:58:23 Devastator: is that the CO2 cave?
06:58:31 Devastator: no, not that, phew.
06:58:37 syv: One of the rare ones that might work well without centering around killing things, too.
06:59:17 piecewise: I was actually gonna work on an exploration system after this one is done. If I can get it done, maybe I'll run a "Explore big hole" game
06:59:39 syv: I love exploring big holes.
06:59:49 Devastator: That sounds fun, but I don't think I could go there.
06:59:58 piecewise: No john, you are the cave adventure
07:00:02 Devastator: incompatabile playstyle.
07:00:15 Devastator: like I can't do mook because it's too
ER-like.
07:00:28 Devastator: I couldn't do exploration because I'd either play way too loose or too tight.
07:00:39 syv: But yeah, spelunking and climbing are both things I think are awesome, so a neat
Piecewise game featuring both would be awesome.
07:00:56 piecewise: I'm a big fan of them as well
07:01:28 piecewise: lets all get nutty putty'd
07:01:46 piecewise: Anywhoo. midnight for me, I'll call it a night. Mook and Dig tomorrow and then hopefully more MIA tomorrow night.
07:02:17 syv: Thanks for getting us to watch this one/
07:02:31 piecewise: I'm occasionally right~
07:02:45 Devastator: Cabal after that then?
07:02:46 piecewise: and
ER didn't even yell at me much~
07:03:00 piecewise: Cabal day after,yeah
07:03:10 piecewise: I'm a day behind because of the wedding
07:03:25 ER: no yelling because I gotta gamer focus
07:03:33 syv: I have a bunch of lubricant experiments prepped for you.
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07:04:11 Devastator:
PW said you could just swap size with a large boulder and that'd cause saeko to be giant.
07:04:25 Devastator: and yeah, lube experiments.
07:04:31 Devastator: get that quote ready.
07:04:54 syv: I saw that he said it'd just have a year long cooldown if I found too OP a strat with it.
07:05:21 syv: Which means I'm just going to experiment to find the most OP possible thing, then do nothing with it for fear of bricking my tinker toy.
07:06:42 ER: anyway, I called robot Quote because Quote is also an ancient abandoned robot boy
07:07:04 ER: which also makes me think of the robot from one of the Daystone animations
07:07:24 ER: it's a classic. have you AND dve not played it?
07:07:39 syv: I don't actually play games.
07:07:46 syv: I just play Dark Souls and Spiderman.
07:08:22 Devastator: I won't ever play Cave Story.
07:08:38 Devastator: it's good, but it isn't on the list.
07:08:52 IronyOwl: it's just a metroidvania, IIRC
07:09:05 IronyOwl: I liked it but I don't remember a thing about it
07:09:56 Devastator: a metroidvania with plot and characters.
07:11:33 Devastator: ..that's what metroidvanias are..
07:11:42 syv: Isn't Metroid a shooter platfotmer?
07:12:05 IronyOwl: it's definitely more platformy than shooty as I recall, so if that's the line then it's not a metroidvania
07:12:15 IronyOwl: only a fucking NEEEEEEEERD would care about something like that though
07:12:29 ER: castlevanias aren't shooters at all!
07:12:43 IronyOwl: plus there's a lot of knife throwing and such
07:12:48 IronyOwl: and also whips that might as well be shooty
07:13:12 ER: matriodvanias are defined by a structure where you explore an open-ended map and collect powerups which allow you to access new area
07:13:57 ER: cave story has similar controls to that but isn't really structured that way
07:14:09 ER: usually you just have a level which you have to get to the end of
07:14:33 Devastator: but the early castlevanias were level-based.
07:14:37 IronyOwl: platformer it is, then
07:16:09 ER: yes, castlevanias started being metriodvanias when SotN copied Metriod. :P
07:18:23 Devastator: nah, they were similar before that happened.
07:19:44 syv: I mean, collecting powerups that expand mobility options and exploring a big open 2d world *is* pretty much the core trait of a "metroidvania".
07:20:14 syv: So if you just beat levels in sequence with no backtracking, no powerups, and no open world, then it's not a metroidvania at all.
07:20:25 Devastator: just remove the open, and you have a metroidvania all the same.
07:21:35 ER: You 're *allowed* to backtrack, but I wouldn't call it open, really
07:22:27 ER: you do collect powerups which give you mobility options, but access to areas is always gated by the story and teleporters
07:24:30 syv: Cause that doesn't sound like any more a metroidvania than Zelda.
07:24:32 Devastator: most of them? To some extent.
07:24:39 IronyOwl: let's take the "is this an anime" approach and say yes just to burn it all down
07:25:04 ER: zeldas aren't usually platformers.
07:25:19 ER: I did say it was defined by game structure
07:25:40 syv: ..Hrm, is Family Guy considered an anime, in Japan?
07:25:42 ER: but metriodvanias are a very specific thing which happens to be commonly replicated because it works well
07:26:35 syv: According to Wikipedia: "The term anime is derived from the English word animation, and in Japan is used to refer to all forms of animated media."
07:26:41 syv: So yes, Family Guy is an anime.
07:26:58 Devastator: is it still around or has it been allowed to die mercifully?
07:28:07 syv: I don't know, but I think it's still around.
07:28:23 Devastator: they don't learn, do they?
07:29:29 ER: reelya the forum goblin once explained that it's badwrong to call western made stuff that "looks like anime" anime because it's subjective and there's actually a lot of different styles of animation made in japan blah blah blah. I took it to mean we should just call anything animated anywhere anime
07:29:50 Devastator: You call someone else a goblin?
07:30:07 Devastator: I wouldn't, because western animation really had an independant development to eastern anime.
07:30:39 ER: I feel that calling reelya a goblin is fairly accurate
07:30:46 ER: usually accurate, always annoying!
07:31:49 Devastator: should put us in the same place to have a goblin-off.
07:32:15 syv: I don't consider Ree to be a goblin.
07:32:28 syv: Goblins don't REEEEEEE nearly as much.
07:33:07 syv: Ree is clearly some kind of bird. Possibly a parrot.
07:34:02 Devastator: I'm sure they make some disgusting noise.
07:35:13 ER: you found the same one as me -_-
07:35:32 Devastator: the google search algorithm knows all.
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08:16:48 Devastator: cho chocobo choco-bo.
09:49:15 ER: did I get either of you to actually watch that Fear of Depths video?
09:49:27 ER: I think i linked it before too
09:49:45 syv: You got me to bookmark it and leave it on my list of "watch this sometime" open tabs.
09:50:24 ER: as it's about both fear of depths and facination with it
09:50:45 syv: So I got both of you to take a personality test
09:50:58 syv: Apparently I'm more agreeable than the two of you put together?
09:54:13 ER: did you make
dev take it for Alida?
09:54:51 syv: Now I'm curious.
Devastator~?
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23:17:19 Devastator: running around today.
23:17:48 Devastator: why do people design equipment to run on unnecessarily specific needs?
23:18:20 Devastator: no, your control power doesn't need slow-acting fuses.
23:21:21 Devastator: it just makes it much harder for me to get some.
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