00:38:55 Piecewise: Yearly employee review
00:39:16 Piecewise: apparently everyone just got rated 3 out of 4 no matter what they did
00:39:34 Piecewise: so my wife asked me to help her write something to her boss's boss about how that don't make no goddamn sense
00:40:41 ER: maybe its a law and they don't want to deal with it so they do it in name only?
00:41:29 Piecewise: *shrug* I'm just a proof reader
00:42:11 Piecewise: what are these questions?
00:43:08 Devastator: maybe they found out layoffs are going to happen and are voluntarily refusing.
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00:45:08 Piecewise: Apparently last year he just rated everyone 4/4 and they told him thats dumb, so now he just did it 3/4
00:45:37 Devastator_: Heh. It took me so long to tell my boss that I shouldn't just make up numbers to fill in a few empty spaces on a list of recorded numbers over time.
00:46:01 Devastator_: that is, convince my boss that any real data set will have the occasional issues, so we won't be in trouble for not having 100% of them filled in.
00:46:35 Piecewise: Bureaucracy sure is grand.
00:46:52 Devastator_: Eh, if they didn't do the threat, they'd ignore the regulation, which is there for a reason.
00:47:38 Devastator_: but them not cracking down when there's a mostly-effective good faith effort at accomplishing the actual goal is also reasonable.
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01:19:49 Piecewise: You guys finish Eva yet?
01:20:51 ER: same as the last time we watched
01:21:21 Piecewise: You're in a good mood this evening
ER
01:23:25 Devastator: there's a bunch of stuff for the movies. I got the dub
syv linked, but I don't have the movie itself..
01:25:29 Devastator: Also, Gendo, Worst Dad.
01:25:41 Piecewise: thats a full movie with multi subtitle
01:25:51 Piecewise: assuming we're talking End of Eva
01:26:02 Devastator: and I think he wanted a better dub.
01:28:39 Piecewise: I dunno if there are good dubs of end of eva
02:28:55 Devastator: subs, not dubs, eh?
02:28:58 Devastator: dubs might object to that.
02:34:33 Piecewise:
ER's always made his opinion of me very clear
02:35:06 Devastator: Suppose should move the cabal questions over here, anyway.
02:35:14 Devastator: save time sending them to
syv or others.
02:35:31 Devastator: So if telcal dies, there is no fire, eh? No wonder everything's dry then.
02:35:39 Devastator: since the water ones are gone.
02:36:28 Devastator: might have to find replacements.
02:37:47 Devastator: came from the sun..
02:38:02 Devastator: that might not be the only possibility.
02:38:05 Devastator: maybe the ocean or something.
02:38:25 Piecewise: Ocean is 4th born of the sun
02:39:04 Devastator: mmm, have to do research on this. Maybe Ekrov can find it out.
02:42:22 Devastator: plus there should be some way to do stuff.
02:46:27 Devastator: Also, would the thaumic university in the capital have any stuff to exchange with, buy or examine?
02:52:38 Devastator: so what were the second and thirdborn?
02:52:48 Devastator: well, maybe can get more mana from there.
02:52:51 Devastator: or from solar power.
02:54:30 Devastator: was that like second?
03:10:01 Piecewise: Earth was first, sky second, fire third, ocean fourth
03:11:00 Devastator: Oh, that would make sense.
03:11:14 Devastator: Did they die or just vanish?
03:11:32 Piecewise: Good question. Because there's still an earth and sky so...
03:12:42 Devastator: well, might find something that can be used for scrying from that temple in the sky city.
03:12:50 Devastator: didn't explore that, likely because the big lug was sleeping on it.
03:15:47 Devastator: might roleplay through that question with
syv at a future time.
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04:00:21 Devastator: apparently gems in thaumic items are used for modifiers.
04:02:04 Devastator: should still see use.
04:02:35 syv: Mm. "Modifiers"? As in adjectives, "stronger", "harder", "faster", etc?
04:04:38 Devastator: or 'many' or something.
04:04:55 Devastator: there was a small gem involved in the fire gun, right?
04:05:00 Devastator: but maybe they were just crystals..
04:08:24 syv: I recall it just being a crystal, but close enough to a gem.
04:08:54 syv: All the actual words were on something aside from gold wire.
04:09:14 syv: Gold is just the pathway for mana, the crystals/gems were the control units, IIRC.
04:10:19 Devastator: well, we should be able to get more assistance. Plus
PW said we saw enough examples that we can try to make our own stuff.
04:10:36 Devastator: so probably just describe what we want and our words and get a solution?
04:15:00 syv: So you totally can make a birdgun.
04:16:37 Devastator: should I? It'd be really cool.
04:20:17 Devastator: but I think we only have one many.. and it's in the manygun, so we might botch it and lose it.
04:28:26 Devastator: eh, seems unlikely.
04:29:02 syv: I think a bird gun might be practical, if you can make the birds home.
04:29:17 syv: Even better if you can make them explosive.
04:29:20 Devastator: Don't see why they couldn't.
04:29:30 Devastator: could probably make them go on fire.
04:29:48 Devastator: don't have 'explode'
04:30:08 Devastator: and I have grow. There could be like dozens of huge birds.
04:32:40 Devastator: or summon birds that grow and attack the target until the spell runs out.
04:32:57 syv: We can probably get some kinda explosive from the grenades.
04:33:19 syv: It was on my to-do list, just got delayed because that doesn't require being at Gravid.
04:33:48 Devastator: you want to keep some of those?
04:39:52 Devastator: sell any? We don't have that many.
04:40:03 syv: Though I can prolly make better ones, or at least cheaper ones.
04:40:14 syv: With the bomblets from the other crash.
04:43:22 Devastator: although you can probably just make explosives.
04:43:39 Devastator: Usually. Can do better triggers with magic.
04:44:01 syv: I would not be surprised if ekrov can know roll up a recipe to transmute gold into C4, using a city market, yeah.
04:44:12 syv: You can do triggers with mundane explosives too.
04:44:35 syv: Mundane explosives mean you don't need mana for the boom part, so they're cheaper regardless.
04:44:48 Devastator: Yeah.. but they're harder and you need to plan them out, and they might go off with the wrong impetus.
04:45:06 syv: Unless you want a really weird boom like "harms everything except birds"
04:45:06 Devastator: magic triggers can be magically protected and only go boom when a mage supplies magic.
04:45:21 Devastator: harms everything except giant catbirdpeople.
04:45:22 syv: Eh. Explosives can be pretty stable.
04:45:29 Devastator: but explosives that don't affect certain people..
04:47:59 Devastator: or kamikaze birds or something.
04:51:25 syv: Yeah. Homing bullets, not super practical.
04:52:33 Devastator: and impossibly smart explosives..
04:52:53 syv: Mm. Thinking about it, not 100% sure thaumic tools are even practical. The ones we've found weren't exactly efficient compared to our other options.
04:53:01 syv: They might make good vendor trash, though?
04:53:37 Devastator: making a potion bench where I can just add mana to potions..
04:53:50 Devastator: nah, not everything is useful, but there's stuff.
04:57:05 Devastator: making a potion bench where I can just add mana to potions..
04:57:24 Devastator: spirit-controlled auto bodymodding is apparently still possible, too.
04:59:45 Devastator: the aforementioned birdgun.
05:01:20 syv: Does that sidestep mutations?
05:01:23 Devastator: the portable forcefields.
05:01:31 Devastator: probably not entirely, but there's probably uses for it.
05:01:52 Devastator: it might mean like one roll for a pile of mana instead of one roll per d10 spell.
05:01:54 syv: Birdgun is probably overly expensive, honestly. Homing might make it worth it if it gives benefit to the roll.
05:02:09 Devastator: might just be one mana a shot.
05:02:29 syv: Which is still bad if it's only d12 and no other advantage.
05:02:44 syv: Since we have guns that do D12+ with 0 mana cost.
05:03:03 Devastator: that's true. But you know, homing bullets, explosive shots..
05:03:17 Devastator: if you want to make better conventional weapons, well, we have a test range now.
05:04:55 Devastator: I wouldn't mind having good conventional weapons.
05:06:15 syv: Would you expect me to *not* fiddle with guns?
05:07:16 Devastator: no, I'm ok with it.
05:07:32 Devastator: in truth, probably want a magic gun and a non-magic gun.
05:07:35 Devastator: and maybe some magic bullets.
05:13:49 syv: I think I'll probably end up making guns that are both.
05:14:03 syv: Normal rifles with optional powered enchantments to enhance them.
05:14:41 Devastator: mmm, and that would leave one hand free, presumably.
05:15:32 Devastator: only needing one gun.
05:15:54 Devastator: also, did you read the logs about the sky being still around?
05:18:12 Devastator: so apparently the sky goddess isn't conventionally dead.
05:18:16 Devastator: yeah, maybe not around.
05:18:39 syv: That makes animating a statue of her... a bit more risky.
05:19:58 Devastator: might just do so partially.
05:20:08 Devastator: or get enough to do scrying.
05:20:26 Devastator: who knows, maybe mana's running out because there haven't been any gods in a long time.
05:20:55 Devastator: maybe the god of the underworld or something was forgotten, and hence all the mana leaked out instead of returning to the world.
05:23:04 Devastator: have to visit the temple city at some point.
05:26:19 syv: Maybe we should just go ask Telcal what's up.
05:26:37 syv: "So, yeah, yo. Fire. What's with everything dying?"
05:26:58 Devastator: nobody knows where he is, either, and
PW said "You know you haven't met him, because your eyes aren't bleeding."
05:27:07 syv: Maybe Telcal's just killing everything, because fire.
05:27:16 syv: Lucky me, I have a backup eye.
05:27:18 Devastator: but we should be able to track it.
05:44:15 Devastator: If you do want to hunt down someone in specific or explore somewhere, do say so.
05:48:15 syv: I'd be happy to hole up in a box and tinker.
05:51:13 Devastator: ..should I drag ekrov out to new places, then?
05:52:02 syv: Otherwise I'll never use the stuff I tinker up. :)
05:52:19 Devastator: it should get.. increasingly forceful. ;-p
05:52:34 Devastator: make sure your workshop has a window.
05:54:53 syv: The magic pixie dream girl requires an alternative entrance.
05:55:25 Devastator: well, eventually she won't fit, so needs to pull you out through it.
05:58:54 Devastator: but yeah, perching on your porch or something would work too.
06:04:02 Devastator: probably visit some places and start the bird mail stuff. Then go explore somewhere.
06:08:15 syv: Mm, yes. Set up a country-wide postage network.
06:08:22 syv: Get painting saeko a penpal.
06:09:18 Devastator: man, if you can't be evil running a post office, you can't be evil at all.
06:09:29 Devastator: but nah, I'll start dabbling, don't worry about it.
06:09:42 Devastator: probably begin by trying to mana-drain some chickens to death soonish.
06:09:50 Devastator: likely as soon as stage 1 happens.
06:11:16 Devastator: prank a few people.
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10:50:31 syv: Forgotten Weapons Q&A, "If the NFA were repealed, what would be the first macine gun you would purchase?"
10:50:50 syv: "From a practical perspective, my answer has always been... a PKM."
10:51:27 syv: Yeess, a Russian beltfed GPMG, the most practical choice available.
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18:23:17 Devastator: does look interesting.
18:33:42 Devastator: good Awful Hospital update.
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22:16:46 Devastator_: YES, I WAS DRINKING WHILE I WROTE THIS, AND IT WAS BLOODY HOPPY.
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