00:00:43 IronyOwl: that's cool, but it sounds considerably harder to make your individual soldiers level and then not die on you
00:00:55 Devastator: Yeah, you mostly either be careful or don't manage it.
00:00:57 IronyOwl: also probably overcomplicated
00:01:12 Devastator: They show you an average number for the unit.
00:01:21 Devastator: it was marked off with the little flags next to the main flag on each unit.
00:02:32 Devastator: It can really matter if you get a very good unit with a bunch of kills and a bunch of +valor traits. If you can make that unit a general to give it extra hitpoints, you can end up with what they call a "Jedi General"
00:02:48 Devastator: ie, the unit has to 'die' like say six times to actually die.
00:03:11 Devastator: and it might have 15 attack and defense. Compared to a normal unit which might have, say, three.
00:03:31 Devastator: so it's facing like 0.8% chance to be killed each time it's swung at, and like a 40% chance to kill with each swing..
00:03:50 Devastator: It can be. I have a couple guys like that in poland.
00:04:22 Devastator: although one is 'dead drunk', so he's got his ordinary stats (his retainers do the work), but -4 HP, so he'll die somewhat easier than expected. ;-p
00:04:47 Devastator: It can be rough when it's like an enemy king and you're trying to get the kill with 0 attack spearmen.
00:04:56 Devastator: 80 guys later, the spearmen run away..
00:05:57 Devastator: Also had a bridge battle where the enemy had a 1 man sized unit of Militia Sergents.. basically spearment on horses.
00:06:16 Devastator: Turned out in the logfiles that guy had 8 valor.
00:06:41 Devastator: so he just kinda held the bridge on his own for a minute. But fortunately wasn't the general so didn't have bonus HP.
00:07:00 Devastator: That was a rough battle, though not due to him. I won it in one of the better performances I've had this campaign.
00:07:14 Devastator: had some I've botched pretty good too.
00:07:35 Devastator: but when I saw that bridge, I was like damn, I'm going to get stuck.
00:12:29 Devastator: yeah, checking the logfiles. Looks like my murderous guy has 7 personal valor. Or 5 points, +2 from traits.
00:12:38 Devastator: traits are really nice because they can apply to the whole friendly unit.
00:16:01 Devastator: Hmm, it seems the guy who isn't dead drunk, Prince Garc has one more than he does, with 8.
00:16:48 Devastator: ..I also really, really should retrain that unit to give it the armour and weapon upgrades it's missing, because his whole unit has 2-4 base valor.
00:17:49 Devastator: as a rule of thumb, 3 points is about twice as good.
00:18:40 Devastator: the last emperor of the germans, Rudolf II, killed 36 guys in his last stand.
00:20:48 Devastator: I lost 110 men in that battle, so that should say something.
00:22:20 Devastator: anyway, sorry for blathering
IronyOwl
00:22:32 Devastator: so it's visibly aged far too much, then?
00:23:03 IronyOwl: I dunno how it'd feel to play it
00:23:11 IronyOwl: but I assume if I wanted to get into Total War I'd go with a more recent one
00:23:42 IronyOwl: (I am, somewhat but not entirely coincidentally, watching a video on Total War: Warhammer II right now)
00:25:13 Devastator: I don't know, you might like the old one better.
00:25:19 Devastator: fewer buttons to push.
00:33:13 Devastator: oh, one more thing irony.
00:33:48 Devastator: Nah, just one, nvm.
00:34:46 Devastator: the wasp swarm is 'small'
00:34:54 Devastator: so you can shove an arty into the space too.
00:35:28 IronyOwl: transports have x2 medium, which means x4 small, right?
00:35:39 IronyOwl: I was thinking Large -> x2 Medium -> x3 Small
00:35:59 IronyOwl: here's hoping I win the bid on that rogue ghostbuster
00:36:48 IronyOwl: x2 arty in one med slot and 1 wasp, 1 unstable gentleman of science (or robbing science depots) in the other would probably be better
00:36:53 IronyOwl: might have to check with
syv on that
00:37:15 Devastator: yes, that's how it goes.
00:37:32 IronyOwl: also, even though I don't need MORE kaiju parts, getting more gives me a better selection to choose from
00:37:39 IronyOwl: so maybe the infantry would be worth it after all
00:58:32 IronyOwl: what's the diplomacy like in MTW?
00:58:42 IronyOwl: apparently it's super barebones in warhams
00:59:56 Devastator: you can have cease fires and alliances, but they're not permanent or anything.
01:00:13 IronyOwl: I must flee for now, but thanks for the info
01:00:15 Devastator: mostly you're exchanging princessess.
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04:16:58 Devastator: so planning for a robot army?
04:17:47 syv: 37 soldiers doesn't really make an army, and I don't have need of one anyways.
04:17:54 syv: More likely, I'll make a robot hit squad.
04:19:45 Devastator: maybe some robot farmers.
04:19:55 Devastator: life is mana, robots are not life, make life from not-life. ;-p
04:21:53 syv: Value is mana, robot miners.
04:22:24 syv: In either case, robots need a power source, which likely means mana. I don't have an easy way of recharging their mainsprings without magic.
04:23:04 Devastator: That sounds like something to invent.
04:24:16 syv: Time is a resource that's always limited.
04:24:46 syv: Investing a limited resource into something that's nearaly unlimited--mana, due to the ridiculous magicoal haul--is just dumb.
04:26:52 Devastator: or mabye like four robots.
04:29:39 Devastator: Dunno, still doesn't seem unlimited to me. Essentially unlimited, sure.
04:29:47 Devastator: but still rate-limited.
04:31:40 Devastator: plus different points of view. Saeko can't eat it.
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08:52:14 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Do fleshorrors dream of eclectic blebs?
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08:53:18 syv: Is this it? Is the realigning of the spheres upon us?
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20:24:32 ER: rolled a dnd character today
20:25:04 ER: got 18, 17, 16, 10, 6, 5 on 4d6 drop lowest
20:25:38 ER: I rolled three sixes and a one twice, once for myself and once for someone else's char
20:26:12 ER: no, sorry, it was 18 17 16 9 6 5
20:26:33 Devastator: So what are you playing?
20:27:51 ER: Paladin. Going for oath of the ancients, though you don't get the oath till third level and we probably won't get that far
20:29:00 ER: my stats are 18 str / 6 dex / 18 con / 5 int / 10 wis / 17 cha
20:31:04 Devastator: where'd you get the extra stats?
20:31:41 Devastator: Also, I hate to say it, but with that character I'd feel duly required to put some traps in wherever I'm sending you.
20:32:02 Devastator: not every time, or everywhere, but at least a few times.
20:32:06 ER: you get starting bonuses to your attribues based on your race in 5e. He's a human, so pick two to give a +1 to
20:32:14 ER: and also a free skill and feat
20:35:16 ER: the rest of our party is a tiefling fighter focused on archery and a dwarf bard
20:41:12 Devastator: does the bard have a tuba?
20:41:49 ER: I don't think that my sister has gotten that far into creation yet :P
20:44:28 Devastator: well, either that or an accordian.
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