00:23:17 Devastator: "Go fight the riot"
00:24:54 Devastator: I am amused there's no actual goal, just 'go fight people'
00:25:22 ER: can we go beat up seperoth yet
00:28:18 Devastator: man, this time the bad guy has different minions.
01:11:34 Devastator: sephiroth would be someone else.
01:38:03 ER: I must say that I wanted to see how that sending would go
01:39:05 Devastator: and now the giant doesn't have to write it!
01:39:18 Devastator: But here comes the endgame.
01:39:33 Devastator: Lets see.. the party's at levels 15-16, right?
01:41:52 Devastator:
RC's a L17 cleric, but he's probably levelled from all the dungeon delving.
01:42:07 Devastator: if Xykon's gaining XP, it'd be enough for that.
01:42:37 Devastator: I think X is min level 21 and has an CLA of what, 8 for being a lich?
01:42:57 Devastator: the bugbear's probably around 18 or so too.
01:43:24 Devastator: I'm using the wrong abbreviation for the concept.
01:43:35 Devastator: but basically his effective character level would be higher from the template.
01:43:40 Devastator: which is what I'm looking for, ECL.
01:47:16 Devastator: going to calculate the XP for 'winning' this.
01:48:12 Devastator: Assuming Roy, Elan, and Belkar are all 15th level. Haley's ahead of the rest and is 17th level.
01:48:23 Devastator: Elan might be ahead too. I'll move him to 16th.
01:48:53 Devastator: Durkon lost two levels from being rezzed, so is at 14.
01:52:27 Devastator: rated as unbeatable.
01:52:38 Devastator: CR +7 from the party.
01:53:23 Devastator: if I drop the bugbear to 17th level it just edges to +6.
01:53:25 ER: is that taking into account the bugbear? :P
01:53:34 Devastator: Yes, it's assuming the bugbear is L18.
01:53:53 Devastator: what's the bugbear's name?
01:53:54 ER: Not sure how much we would know about her level.
01:54:33 ER: Unless we assume that team evil is all PCs and she was introduced to their party at an appropriate level :P
01:54:50 Devastator: the forum cares about that far too much. ;-p
01:56:22 Devastator: also I had the order levelld up a little.
01:56:41 Devastator: mind you, it's not unreasonable, I think they did Roy before dwarfquest, so..
01:57:57 Devastator: so I kept a few of those in place.
01:58:07 Devastator: has it right on the edge of 'unbeatable', either way.
01:58:19 Devastator: which is about TPK range.
01:58:44 ER: I guess, narratively, "edge of unbeatable" is a good level for the final confrontation?
01:59:07 ER: Not necessrilly a good idea in an RPG, but this is a story. :P
01:59:41 Devastator: do remember that a fair fight is rated as 'extremely difficult' or something.
02:00:17 ER: the players have to THINK D:
02:00:33 Devastator: nah, it's more that your players are supposed to win most fights.
02:00:41 ER: or gods forbid, run away if they get bad rolls!
02:01:33 Devastator: also, O-chul and Lien might help some.
02:02:17 ER: what's going on with them is a big unknown at this point
02:02:30 Devastator: but I'd bet any amount of money they'll show up again.
02:02:43 Devastator: I mean, O-Chul is simply too badass.
02:05:03 Devastator: well, whatever, there will be STUFF that happens.
02:05:26 Devastator: usually I feel like endings will be predictable, but with this one I'm not sure.
02:06:28 ER: need to see where all the loose threads go ;P
02:06:46 Devastator: Some kinda tangle of plot threads?
02:06:55 Devastator: don't know where one of those might be.
02:07:38 ER: yes, hopefully the plot threads will enter a glorious snarl
02:08:23 Devastator: Nah, you know how O-Chul will show up again?
02:08:36 Devastator: He'll level and get his paladin mount.
02:09:21 ER: and it will be the same horse as miko's, and belkar will end up stabbing it to death? :P
02:10:01 Devastator: He did already stab the oracle. ;-p
02:10:33 ER: yeah, but may as well go for the combo
02:11:44 Devastator: "I rest easy knowing that your revenge will first require you to outsmart someone's mount."
02:12:26 Devastator: Belkar's kinda dumb. That mount might have had more int than he does.
02:17:31 Devastator: mmm, should have 8 int.
02:17:35 Devastator: so yeah, maybe more than Belkar.
02:28:37 Devastator: I wonder if Roy was ever knighted.
02:39:41 Devastator: lets see what happens.
02:44:40 Devastator: Engage in conversation with the microorganisms decomposing your innards.
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03:31:42 Devastator: It'll probably drop fewer frames here, and I can see more.
03:32:33 IronyOwl: ...yeah, I suppose I should
03:32:47 IronyOwl: that text looks super dated
03:34:15 IronyOwl: any idea who/what you're gonna play?
03:34:56 IronyOwl: I... can't think of anything better
03:35:05 IronyOwl: oh shit, shoulda been Drake
03:36:33 IronyOwl: gosh, so many choices
03:36:41 IronyOwl: lizard is the best one, obviously
03:36:54 IronyOwl:
ER what are you thinkin?
03:37:15 IronyOwl: knockoff orcs go home
03:38:01 IronyOwl: continual effect in Oblivion and Skyrim, have to cast it here
03:38:47 IronyOwl: we need a tiebreaker or a third option
03:39:11 IronyOwl: bah humbug, but that's 2:1
03:40:36 IronyOwl: it irks me to lose efficiency on HP, but such is life :]
03:40:54 IronyOwl: I assume we should just assemble a custom class piecemeal
03:42:14 ER: forgot what things I picked other than conguration and short blade
03:42:43 ER: nah, just talking about the things I picked
03:42:56 ER: I joined the thief's guild with no stealth :V
03:45:40 IronyOwl: thief is tempting since it's hard to get otherwise
03:45:44 IronyOwl: the others are just stat boosts
03:46:00 IronyOwl: 10% dodge, more or less
03:46:36 IronyOwl: I like Duck as a questionable translation
03:46:41 ER: First name Drake last name Duck
03:47:35 IronyOwl: yeah 50 that is very high
03:49:43 ER: gotta make sure that pack is full of loot
03:49:44 IronyOwl: y u leave alchemy reagents? D:<
03:52:22 ER: no dragons in this tutorial
03:54:19 IronyOwl: heavy armor would be better, naked/finery would be funnier
03:57:46 IronyOwl: that's one way to train acrobatics!
03:57:58 ER: "ow!" YOUR ACROBATICS INCREASED
03:59:14 IronyOwl: you know I'm not sure I've ever seen the scrib death animation
03:59:16 ER: well, we're good with a sword
03:59:20 IronyOwl: never killed the poor things meself
04:01:31 ER: Well, I'm happy to have contributed towards the creation of James Duck, but I think I will now return to reading silly comics
04:02:33 ER: well, I'll still be here, obviously ;p
04:06:40 IronyOwl: searches and executions
04:07:11 IronyOwl: he's in one of the shacks by the water, I think
04:07:21 ER: stab em and take their souls and put their souls into daggers of STABBING
04:07:47 IronyOwl:
dev says there's an entire assassination guild
04:08:56 IronyOwl: I dunno, this one could go either way
04:09:05 ER: of course the elves have an official legal assassaination guild ;P
04:09:31 IronyOwl: dark elves specifically! we don't know what high elves do when they want to murder someone
04:10:10 IronyOwl: are you gonna not kill this guy for murder, then kill him anyway stealing his literature?
04:10:48 IronyOwl: as I recall he did have a weirdly large amount of taxes owed for a fisherman
04:11:06 ER: the ways of the wild murderhobo are mysterious
04:11:53 IronyOwl: most of em don't do anything, though
04:12:30 IronyOwl: what's the benefit of keeping them?
04:12:44 IronyOwl: a well-read barbarian, then?
04:12:58 IronyOwl: that sounds about right, unless you've got something in particular you want to buy
04:14:38 IronyOwl: huh, actually looks like a swordsman now
04:15:39 IronyOwl: it's okay, he'll look like a mook soldier once you get all steel
04:17:29 IronyOwl: I think you can just talk to the guy
04:17:58 IronyOwl: I mean the other guy, the one who gave you the quest
04:19:10 IronyOwl: does armor affect your sneakiness in this one?
04:20:04 IronyOwl: I think Oblivion had a janky system like that
04:20:14 IronyOwl: not sure about Skyrim
04:21:34 IronyOwl: ah right, the breakin problem
04:21:43 IronyOwl: can't sneak well enough to fool anybody to train sneak
04:23:19 IronyOwl: remember the game doesn't save for you, so
04:23:24 IronyOwl: might wanna do that now and then
04:23:49 IronyOwl: also I remember having waaaaaaay more trouble with that guy
04:23:59 IronyOwl: maybe because I couldn't gut him instantly
04:25:10 IronyOwl: quick internet search says there's no yield in morrowind, only Oblivion+
04:25:51 ER: DF is more advanced than morrowind now~
04:26:43 IronyOwl: still made that skooma is just +25 stamina in Skyrim
04:26:49 IronyOwl: where's my goddamn D R U G S
04:28:12 IronyOwl: like all civilized men, James Duck keeps a skull on his desk
04:32:38 IronyOwl: there's a console command for everything~
04:33:24 IronyOwl: tlc to disable collision
04:34:27 IronyOwl: great exercise though!
04:35:06 IronyOwl: cliff racer plumes maybe?
04:39:32 IronyOwl: it's easy to miss, oddly enough
04:39:50 IronyOwl: intended to be a very early one, but something about the placement makes it real easy to skitter around it and miss it completely
04:41:34 IronyOwl: can't enlist unless you butter up the captain
04:44:47 IronyOwl: you couldn't pay me to recruit you to the legion!\
04:49:28 IronyOwl: timeline-ending whoops, eh
04:53:07 IronyOwl: the big one the boss calls Lug
04:53:44 IronyOwl: she was... way north, right?
04:56:57 IronyOwl: don't remember myself
04:57:26 IronyOwl: finally outran that war maggot
05:08:05 IronyOwl: though less so when you don't stuff literally every alchemy reagent into your sack like I do
05:11:21 IronyOwl: sell invisibility potion
05:11:29 IronyOwl: robbed by invisible man 14 seconds later
05:11:33 IronyOwl: PROBABLY A COINCIDENCE
05:12:13 ER: you'd think they would have specific countermeasures
05:13:03 IronyOwl:
Dev says this is "glorious morrowind, you're supposed to do stuff like this"
05:13:14 IronyOwl: "if you're not doing stuff like this, you're probably doing something wrong"
05:13:36 ER: but can you put buckets on people's heads
05:15:35 IronyOwl: you cannot! serious oversight!
05:24:50 IronyOwl: I like that one, yeah
05:25:07 IronyOwl: really captures that loopy no-right-answer in-universe lorebuilding
05:26:44 IronyOwl: you've betrayed the clan by having a really obnoxious laugh
05:29:32 IronyOwl: I knew about the pillow ship, didn't know about the order
05:31:00 IronyOwl: god I love how many drugs went into this game
05:31:49 IronyOwl: locked himself in a Las Vegas hotel room for six days or something?
05:36:10 IronyOwl: afraid I'm gonna have to bail out for now
05:36:48 Devastator: Glad to have you here.
05:37:09 Devastator: hope it wasn't too boring.
06:14:06 ER: wonder if I still have a need to sleep.
06:14:28 ER: but I dunno, it could have gona away, hypothetically
06:14:59 ER: I don't know anything about how the universe is structured, so anything is exactly as likely as anything else!
06:17:12 Devastator: stop feeling sorry for yourself and go sleep.
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06:53:53 MidJag: I did a formal in Savanahah. Was kinda terrible.
06:54:52 ER: terrible things are terrible
06:55:07 MidJag: Yes, it turns out my date both had a boyfriend and hated people who smoked weed.
06:55:35 Devastator: let me guess, her boyfriend also smoked weed.
06:56:25 MidJag: I think so yes, I never got confirmation, but that's what I figure.
06:58:40 Devastator: that would make sense.
07:00:00 ER: so
MJ, will we be able to pin you down for some communal anime-watching any time soon?
07:00:01 Devastator: well, not much going on where I'm at.
07:00:11 Devastator: dammit, should have asked Irony.
07:00:42 MidJag: I should be able to in like a week?
07:05:53 Devastator: well that'd be good.
07:06:09 Devastator: Also played Morrowind for
IronyOwl.
07:06:13 Devastator: apparently IO's familiar with it.
07:06:23 Devastator: also apparently it's easier to get people to watch streams of games they know.
07:08:27 ER: also
dev isn't very entertaining ;p
07:08:59 ER: game's only one thing, the streamer is important, you know?
07:09:48 Devastator: yeah, I'm not the best talker.
07:10:02 ER: welp, you might be better than me
07:10:18 ER: just not as good as people who do that for a living ;p
07:11:06 Devastator: to be honest, I find some streamers incredibly irritating.
07:11:24 Devastator: and a normal streamer is like 75% reading out donors names.
07:11:45 ER: only if they're way too popular
07:12:16 MidJag: I dunno, I don't really watch many streams, so I can't really coment
07:12:20 ER: sadly, popular people are recommended first by the algorithm
07:13:12 Devastator: plus I have the worst accent in the world.
07:14:34 MidJag:
dev you sound like pickles from metalocalypse.
07:14:50 MidJag: which isn't a bad thing, more just a statment.
07:15:45 Devastator: I have no idea who that is.
07:17:13 Devastator: got a link or something?
07:19:37 MidJag: pickles is the red haired one
07:21:33 MidJag: nah, just the general accent.
07:22:00 ER: man, I gotta go to sleep some time
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07:38:57 Devastator: now is
syv going to turn up tonight?
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20:19:21 Devastator: nah, should be good.
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