00:03:35 Devastator: eh, shouldn't worry about it.
00:04:33 Devastator: just wondering about monster tinker.
00:04:36 Devastator: so pointless questions.
00:04:46 Devastator: could just skip them and I'll find out later.
01:20:57 ER: a very confused spider is crawling around on my floor
01:26:28 Devastator: what's so confusing?
01:34:07 Devastator: ahh, multi-leg syndrome.
01:34:12 Devastator: the Rincewind method.
01:34:19 ER: it seems to be kinda wildly flailing in response to noises?
01:34:36 Devastator:
Parisbre56[Afk] Effects of gravity, not affects of gravity.
01:34:39 ER: if I were an arachnophobe this would be the worst case scenario
01:54:14 Devastator: I should read that.
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04:01:12 ER: the spider is still flailing
04:01:41 ER: is there, like, a parasite eating its brain or something?
04:03:58 ER: I assume they don't like sugary things
04:04:51 syv: I suspect those are actually bears,
Dev.
04:07:24 ER: they're probably the real world's pumsys
04:10:07 syv: The real world's pumsys are tiger cubs. :P
04:10:25 Devastator: So pumsy can't purr.
04:12:30 syv: But if I actually did say he's purred, it was, uh, magic. Yeah.
04:13:46 Devastator: So what's gonna happen to pumsy upon labrynth entering? Vanish?
04:21:27 Piecewise_: Hey
Sy, look at this
04:21:49 Piecewise_: weapons get stronger down the column and across the rows.
04:21:54 Piecewise_: see any glaring issues?
04:22:02 Piecewise_: You are my resident gun nerd
04:22:18 Piecewise_: I put some stuff in there that may be a bit spicy
04:26:02 Piecewise_: "Quality" Basically just the multiplier in front of the dice
04:30:45 sy: Seems basically reasonable. Automatics doing more damage trips me up a little, but makes sense. I'd prolly change some things around--debuff the P90 and AK47 for instance--but that's really just quibbling, it's fine.
04:30:56 sy: "Dragunov" and "Zweihander", though.
04:32:20 Piecewise_: I'm using an old "Compendium of modern weapons" for the rough damage levels
04:33:21 Piecewise_: And thanks for the spelling catches
04:35:44 Piecewise_: I'll never please every gun nerd but as long as its roughly good, I'm happy.
04:35:52 Piecewise_: you guys have seen this right
04:36:42 Piecewise_: If not, its worth a watch
04:36:49 Piecewise_: about all of 12 minutes total
04:37:18 sy: I have not, looks pretty awesome.
04:39:38 Piecewise_: This was apparently done by one guy
04:40:42 sy: I read that as "So was I... ;-P", and was wondering how to take that.
04:46:34 sy: Huh, PAULDRONS are useful for once.
04:47:59 sy: It occurs to me, this is a rare depiction of space marines actually acting like, you know, *marines*.
04:49:18 Devastator: rather agp like in the shoot the daemonhost.
04:57:38 Piecewise_: People have noted that its ironically much better at portraying space marines than anything GW has put out in a long time
04:58:28 Piecewise_: Considering how this is a fan project, funded entirely by fans and made by one guy...I expect GW to kill it any day
04:58:30 ER: lul space men fight green dudes
04:59:04 ER: shooting at each other with big guns in a featureless wasteland with no tactics
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05:07:21 syv: Well. That was probably the best WH40K anything that I've ever seen.
05:18:10 Devastator: yeah, it wasn't bad at all.
05:18:16 Devastator: ..but I can't say it's better than TTS.
05:18:22 Devastator: might get bonus points for being shorter.
05:18:55 Devastator: agp is good, but I'd call it more tabletop than 40k.
05:18:58 Devastator: but it's both, really.
05:23:13 syv: TTS is basically just writing and humor.
05:23:22 syv: It's good, but it could be vastly better.
05:23:56 syv: This... it feels like it's pretty much what it can be, and exceeds what it should be.
05:24:36 Devastator: "Show some class, this is Philly"
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05:36:58 ER: what are you doing here silly skel
05:55:10 syv: Yeah, just unreasonably good.
06:43:16 syv:
ER why have you not responded to my RP
06:43:38 syv: I know it took me days to respond, but I hold you to a higher standard.
06:44:35 ER: well I didn't do it in the last 30 seconds because I was evicting a spider
06:44:54 ER: and I didn't do it before that because I was doing other things which aren't that
06:45:03 syv: Did the spider survive this eviction?
06:45:17 ER: I didn't see, it's dark outside
06:45:55 ER: but it's probably not much worse off than it was before considering it was mostly either staying still or twitching
06:46:58 ER: maybe being in "nature" will help
06:47:49 ER: more bugs to catch out there than on my concrete floor
06:52:10 ER: got a nice partially subterrainian abode
07:03:50 Devastator: Can be nice and cool.
07:04:01 Devastator: basements are mostly the same temp year-round.
07:12:34 syv: Concrete sucks as a floor though.
07:12:41 syv: Carpets are pretty awesome.
07:28:49 ER: it's nice having a room that's the right temperature all the time
07:29:26 ER: this one because it's pretty much in the ground, but the one I lived in before was pretty much archetectural magic
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07:33:28 MidJag: eh, maybe 15 mintues? Probably shouldn't be up anwyay.
07:33:41 MidJag: I'll hop on earlier tommorow probably
07:34:58 syv: Fair chance I'll be asleep this time tomorrow. Oh well.
07:35:16 syv: HEY
DEV,
ER, WANNA PLAY SURVIV?
07:38:00 Devastator: I see two but no
MJ.
07:39:19 syv: Well damn. I forgot that punches are lethal when you don't have armor.
07:40:24 Devastator: I shoulda helped you guys.
07:40:28 Devastator: and those guys are experienced.
07:40:37 syv: It was a squad, we died within the first m
07:44:00 syv: And that's the second time in a row I lost to fists despite holding shotgun.
07:46:25 MidJag: Fists are celaryl OP plz nerf
07:49:46 MidJag: Alright that's it for me.
07:50:11 syv: And now
Dev shall solo the server.
07:54:36 MidJag: That was quite something
07:54:36 Devastator: I woulda won that, btw.
07:55:12 ER: just outheal final circle lol
07:55:33 Devastator: they had three guys, and circle goes to zero.
07:55:38 Devastator: I had enough medkits. ;-p
07:55:56 Devastator: sorry, need a moment to cool down.
07:56:01 syv: You've done that before, haven't you.
07:56:13 Devastator: but it looked possible.
07:56:44 MidJag: I gotta go to bed gents.
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08:00:35 Devastator: I thought that was you.
08:04:05 Devastator:
syv, gotta use medkits when in late-game red zone. And try not to escape while shouldering a grenade launcher.
08:04:09 ER: lmg, double barrel, naginata
08:04:39 ER: and I found them all in the same room
08:11:21 Devastator: that's enough. GJ everyone.
08:11:27 ER: you two kinda just didn't stop rushing ahead there
08:11:29 syv: Yeah, had one single bullet in my vector's mag
08:11:42 Devastator: I had 12 deagle rounds left. ;-p
08:11:57 Devastator: I was so glad that guy hid instead of wiping us out when I was healing.
08:12:21 Devastator: it's ok, we had that guy flanked and his buddy ran away into the grenade.
08:17:00 ER: and he's apparently very powerful
08:17:38 syv: That's actually pretty fun
08:17:46 syv: Even if we won by being on the lucky team
08:18:00 syv: I wasted two mac mags on an ally
08:18:02 ER: I think that's always how it goes in 50v50
08:18:14 syv: Because I'm not used to having friendlies without names
08:18:23 ER: last red guy lasted a long ass time
08:18:31 syv: I bet
Dev could win as the last man.
08:18:39 syv: He'd just need to be lucky and get on the losing team/
08:18:42 ER: protip, you can see red dudes on the map in they're in someone's vision
08:19:09 ER: so if you see there's one or just a few left, you can rush 'em
08:21:43 syv: Covid-19 punched me to death
08:23:27 ER: that time I got "promoted to recon"
08:23:42 ER: which gave me perfect armor and pack and made me way faster
08:23:53 ER: so sorry to leaving you behind, duty called
08:24:09 ER: also looks like the last few people get turned into bosses or something
08:24:14 ER: they're fat and have a lot of HP
08:24:30 syv: Hilarious how he ran into the center of red team
08:29:08 syv: Spectating, say if you're not
08:29:20 ER: I liked the feeling first time of pretty much charging into battle mostly blind and very lightly armed
08:37:21 ER: it does seem kinda hamfisted that the last few guys get comeback superpowers, knowing that
Dev exists and could do that without superpowers
08:38:52 syv: Total kills across all these games:
08:39:09 ER: didn't you get one in the first one?
08:39:47 Devastator: I find it amusing that the comeback superpowers seem to exist to allow plebes to feel like me. ;-p
08:42:54 syv: Red leadergun is a super 90. It's a sniper, not a shotty.
08:43:04 syv: So doubling with another sniper was not a great idea.
08:44:38 ER: anyway, enough of that stuff
08:44:47 ER: go reply to my post in cabal~
08:47:04 ER: I liked being recon better than being medic :P
08:47:24 ER: it still doesn't show you anyone's health bar outside your squad..
08:47:41 syv: People can emote for HP, if they notice you're a medic.
08:48:55 ER: do randos have the coordination to notice they're low, see I'm a medic, hold down the c key on their keyboard along with their right mouse button, then move their mouse in the correct direction?
08:49:13 Devastator: They're probably mobile players, so no. ;-p
08:49:26 ER: they're probably 13 year old mobile players
08:52:37 syv: And that's why they're beating me
08:53:48 Devastator: the kids do have skill.
08:54:06 Devastator: to be honest, there's a lot of good players out there. Most of the time you run into someone better, no matter how good you are.
09:05:05 syv: Zavi's holding a painting, right?
09:21:28 syv: Oh. Beep me when you post. >.>
09:22:11 syv: Hmm, Dubs didn't roll for Zavi's art quality.
09:22:20 syv: What's she roll on for art?
09:22:31 syv:
Devastator, how difficult of a subject is Saeko?
09:22:41 ER: long, long ago he told me that both kno and will are valid
09:22:55 Devastator: Probably not terribly.
09:23:10 Devastator: if you're trying to make it look like her enough to be recognized, probably pretty easy.
09:23:31 Devastator: if you're trying to pass an animated painting off as her, probably pretty hard due to the whole glowing thing along with the elf ears.
09:23:39 syv: I'm gonna give it a d10 because she chose to do it from Ekrov's perspective, and Saeko has the glow which is hard to replicate.
09:23:48 ER: I think both technical quality and ART should matter here, so I'll roll both
09:24:02 ER: ...but what would the opposing be for each. hmm
09:24:29 syv: Or hell just say d10 both.
09:26:13 syv: So flawless quality, and good on subject.
09:26:27 ER: does saeko being cuter inherently make her harder to depict?
09:27:37 syv: If you're trying to draw somebody who's horribly ugly and disproportionate, if you fuck up and draw them disproportionate you're not really making them look much worse.
09:27:54 syv: If you're trying to draw somebody who looks perfect, any errors will make them look not-perfect.
09:27:59 ER: but you are technically wrong
09:28:21 ER: so I'd say that sort of thing matters only for the will component, if at all
09:28:35 Devastator: Eh, will should matter. You're trying to evoke the emotions brought out by the original.
09:28:44 syv: But it gives a solid base for the difficulty.
09:28:48 Devastator: that can apply to a subject that's ugly or pitable or horrifying as well.
09:28:50 ER: I edited my post with the roll btw
09:30:52 ER: inb4 the animated painting has homura's personality instead
09:33:54 Devastator: might be safer than saekos.
09:34:55 syv: Yandere Saeko might be an upgrade in Ekrov's eyes/
09:36:38 ER: what would ek do if I crafted him a clearly superior waifu?
09:39:47 Devastator: It'd be off-putting for Saeko.
09:44:09 syv: I suspect he'd be consciously very offput by it, and think it's sort of creepy. Emotionally, if a being that looked identical to Saeko was acting all attracted to him, he'd prolly enjoy that greatly. Unsure how those emotions would conflict.
09:44:58 syv: I'd *probably* have him end up feeling like the modified version is a downgrade because she has *any* personality change, even if it's just "likes him", but that's as much for functional reasons as RP reasons.
09:54:25 ER: darn it, now you'd gone and made me convince an additional person who's harder to emotionally manipulate! ;P
09:55:10 Devastator: well, could be a start of darkness by stat-draining a doppleganger of herself. ;-p
09:55:27 syv: He'd love the chaos and possibilities a doppelganger could cause.
09:55:41 syv: And I provided an excuse for Saeko *right there*.
09:55:54 Devastator: It's not strategically a bad idea, but right now it's confusing, we have a job, and we have like 8 people already.
09:56:03 ER: I was referring to saeko.
Dev is way easier to manipulate than you ;P
09:56:04 Devastator: and I've got a doppleganger in a box that needs to be dealt with.
09:56:25 Devastator: so.. I'd hold off on it, but I wouldn't mind buying the painting for later.
09:57:23 syv: Also Ekrov is absolutely buying the painting if Saeko doesn't~
09:58:18 syv: Ekrov is obviously much more easy to manipulate than Saeko, love clouding his thoughts and all, but I have no real reference for how manipulable I am.
09:58:34 Devastator: but mgiht say yes because we could actually use another hand.
09:58:38 syv: And
Dev is fairly solid compared to most people, so.
09:58:47 Devastator: I could send the doppleganger back to return the king key, for instance.
09:59:06 Devastator: yeah, that might be it.
10:00:03 syv: Yeah, I don't see anything to add there.
10:00:12 Devastator: you want me to post?
10:00:28 ER: but it's usually pretty obvious what to say to make
dev go on a spontainious rant
10:00:43 syv: If you want to add in
Dev now, you can do that and I'll edit in an "if you want to go ask her I'll come with" on my post.
10:00:57 syv: But you can make me rant on a dime, too!
10:01:18 Devastator: I'm fine for posting now if you want.
10:01:23 syv: "Hey can you look at this gun game I made and tell me all your thoughts?"
10:01:49 syv: "Yes I would love to, I'll get back to you tomorrow when I've finished the 10k word essay"
10:01:52 ER: game systems, eh? what are your opinions of the sega satern?
10:02:09 syv: My opinion is that I don't really know what it is.
10:02:42 ER: it's not a story the gun wizards would tell you
10:04:52 ER: posted...
syv and
Devastator
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10:06:27 syv: What's up, you nefarious poltergeist plotting rodent modifications?
10:06:56 RC: Any time, any place, catman.
10:07:07 ER: we are plotting over our nefarious plans
10:07:55 syv: Specifically, Egan is talking about his char convincing my char to create a fake copy of his waifu,
Dev's char.
10:07:59 RC: Just getting some reading done, technical review.
10:09:02 RC: For what purpose, if I may ask?
10:09:49 syv: Especially when it causes weird dramatic magical love triangles that end in tragedy
10:09:59 ER: and maybe I want to be a weird mom a little bit
10:10:20 Devastator: very tempted to mention insufficiently pointy ears on the painting.
10:10:27 RC: If you make the copy good enough, maybe you can lose track of which is the real one!
10:10:44 Devastator: Real one has pointier ears and magic. ;-p
10:10:48 syv: Considering he critted on the functional art part, I suspect it is exactly perfect for his goal.
10:10:59 ER: it was a 7+1 vs 1
dev, of course the ears and pointy ;P
10:11:00 Devastator: Yeah, as per a few days ago.
10:11:00 RC: Then you'll have to decide which close to shoot.
10:11:12 syv: ...Which, considering Zavi was trying to draw from Ekrov's perspective, probably does mean shorter ears.
10:11:24 syv: Ekrov wants human Saeko after all.
10:11:26 Devastator: since her ear-related modifications are an ongoing situation, they won't be pointy enough to match.
10:11:51 RC: If it's a magic painting, I'm sure it can fix itself on the fly.
10:11:56 syv:
RC, Ekrov has d12+5 know, and the human material.
10:11:58 ER: assuming that a painting of a shifting being will itself remain static
10:12:07 syv: "Which clone do I sh--oh, that one. Duh."
10:12:30 RC: Assuming the magic can see the difference!
10:12:35 Devastator: well, if it doesn't, then we'll know when Saeko's ears stop getting pointier.
10:12:39 ER: I guess Human would make it easier to make the things you animate... Human.
10:14:44 RC: Did you see NG's post in dig, by the way?
10:15:30 RC: Getting some major Tiruin vibes here, heh.
10:15:31 syv: Not terribly intelligent, but adorbs indeed.
10:15:57 syv: At least Tiruin knows to shoot the hostile monsters while saying that she comes in peace.
10:16:05 Devastator: Tir's smarter, I'm afraid.
10:16:14 RC: And powersliding on a corpse!
10:16:56 ER: nature is totally the character who ends up solving everything by being the first person to *talk* to the monsters
10:17:09 ER: sadly, she is in the wrong genre with
pw
10:17:21 Devastator: Also, if the comments are confusing, she tested her grow word on herself first, so she's taller than she was to start the game at.
10:17:32 syv: I think she may be in the wrong genre on bay12.
10:17:38 RC: "Oh, I'm sorry, you must have me mistaken for a benevolent god."
10:17:48 syv: Do any of us run games where talking is a better idea than shooting?
10:17:57 RC: I also like her action in mook.
10:18:30 syv: I tried talking in Tactihell test, that clearly wasn't gonna be a good plan.
10:18:56 syv: I murdered those people in self defense, recall.
10:18:57 ER: I forgot what happened there
10:19:09 syv: And I even gave the medic dude a second chance.
10:19:13 RC: Accidentally released the second flood? Hapless teammates yelling for her to close the door while they get washed away like so much driftwood? Let's go paddle upstream, splish splash.
10:19:24 ER: but yeah, I suppose the half-demon punk probably wanted to murder you
10:19:50 syv: She was a bit unreasonably obsessed with murdering me, in fact.
10:20:14 ER: I claim no responsabillity to alsi's actions~
10:20:23 syv: In Sh, murder tends to be a good option when faced with hostiles.
10:20:28 RC: you know yourself
syv, was it -really- that unreasonable? :p
10:20:44 syv: I played myself in that test.
10:20:50 ER: yeah, nature did literally make this very mistake in Sh, remember?
10:21:19 syv: I had been actively hoping they'd let me team up, since I was kinda horribly disadvantaged in Hell.
10:21:33 RC: Depends on what you wanna call a mistake I suppose.
10:22:54 ER: I'm not sure if I explained, but medic dude was sibling to murder gal, and reacted badly to you telling him to kill her
10:23:14 syv: Nah, you never explained that.
10:23:21 syv: It makes sense either way, really.
10:23:52 ER: which is hopefully a not unreasonable explaination for how a much of humans can act in way that make sense to themselves while entertainingly murdering each other
10:23:53 syv: I had been banking on them only being allies of convenience.
10:24:35 Devastator: that's true, but in Sh talking is ok basically 90% of the time.
10:24:48 RC: By the way, @
Devastator, something you might enjoy: I played a caveman in the last skype-RP session I did with some friends called 'Zug-Zug'.
10:25:01 Devastator: Zug Zug is an Orc thing.
10:25:12 ER: because we're not in combat basically 90% of the time
10:25:18 RC: Managed to stick to grunting and single-word yelling.
10:25:34 RC: I know, but I liked it as a name.
10:25:45 Devastator: how'd Zug Zug go over?
10:25:53 RC: It was a thing orc units said in the old warcraft rts games I think?
10:26:37 RC: It went well enough, but since the gm hadn't told us the setting beforehand I was playing a caveman in a sci-fi space miners setting.
10:26:43 syv: Oh hey,
RC, has you seen the Astartes series?
10:27:11 RC: Tried to fight a time-traveling nazi by chucking a newspaper kiosk at them.
10:27:19 RC: I have, I mentioned it on the discord the other day.
10:27:22 syv: Dubs linked it earlier. Part five came out a few days ago. It's great.
10:27:31 RC: Meant to mention in here as well that part 5 recently dropped.
10:27:46 Devastator: I see no reason why a caveman can't fit in in a space miners setting.
10:28:12 syv: You can fit whatever in a space miners setting.
10:28:22 syv: Templar knight during the crusades?
10:28:42 RC: Heh, I mention it there, then he brings it over here. Efficient!
10:28:47 syv: Clearly the space miners touched down on 1100s Earth.
10:28:52 ER: you can fit anything in any setting if you handwave hard enough
10:29:20 RC: There are a ton of details in that series, I keep finding new stuff every time I see it.
10:30:44 RC: By the way, since I've been playing surviv again a little bit, and there's 4 of us here right now, wanna give it a try?
10:31:26 syv: Egan did fine, won a round or two.
10:31:33 syv:
Dev did amazing, solo'd a couple rounds.
10:31:45 syv: I got like three kills over the entire session.
10:32:35 RC: The 50v50 mode is fun though, then my rampant incompetence doesn't sting as hard.
10:32:47 ER: I guess you'll fit right in the
MJ slot then :V
10:32:48 syv: Me and
ER did 50v50 a few times.
10:32:53 syv: I got only one kill at all.
10:33:05 syv: Wait, no, two. I got one in the round I became leader.
10:33:20 RC: I like the medic class myself, pretty fun.
10:33:35 ER: the only time either of us survived to the end was when we were both cluely newbies with no equipment
10:33:46 Devastator: so do you want to play some?
10:34:10 Devastator: I could do a couple.
10:34:15 Devastator: not too many, but a couple more.
10:35:29 Devastator: it's ok, we can win with two.
10:35:37 RC: Let's see if the lag is doable.
10:36:21 RC: Get some slowdown and stutter on the closer server, but might still be fine.
10:36:39 RC: And if not I can be a packmule!
10:43:58 RC: Lag was there, but bearable for me.
10:44:03 ER: how does it feel to get hard carried by a god of war,
RC?
10:44:13 Devastator: ..there wasn't that much to do..
10:46:16 syv: Now spectate and watch him wipe the server. :P
10:46:36 ER: now all that remains is for this sexy shoeless god of war to clean up
10:48:13 Devastator: eh, enough for tonight.
10:48:30 RC: I got two kills in the last one, not too shabby.
10:49:13 RC: Got taken out when the game decided to freeze me for a second or two though, but still managed to get a shotgun load into the offending party.
10:49:27 RC:
dev is out.
ER and
syv, you guys still in?
10:49:45 ER: I tend to bounce back and forth between competant and a glimpse into
dev's sheer john wick-itude
10:50:28 syv: Oh yeah, posted,
Dev and
er
10:50:37 ER: you ever played solo vs squads?
10:50:42 RC: Fair nuff. Wanna try squad or 50v50?
10:50:58 syv: 50v50 will probably be more successfl
10:55:17 ER: oh, I just now noticed that one of my words is maybe usable for scrying, which would be sunlight
10:55:31 ER: "show me all the light touches"
10:56:46 syv: I bet he did more than seven damage~
10:56:51 RC: I think I saw a smidge of blue teleport past at some point.
10:56:53 syv: Not *after* the revive but still.
10:56:58 RC: Oh, I revived a bunch of guys.
10:57:36 RC: Too bad it can't be cashed in.
10:58:24 syv: I think you can cash in for cosmetics if you have an account
10:58:52 ER: it used to let me use other emotes without an account.
10:59:02 ER: there used to *not be* accounts
10:59:15 ER: why would there need to be accounts for a .io game
11:00:39 Devastator: I just don't log in.
11:02:12 syv: Fing airstrikes autokilling me
11:03:22 syv: Say if you want to just join a new one.
11:04:02 RC: I think I could have taken sniper guy if the lag was just a little bit less. Hard to shotgun up close when a small stutter means I turned 90 degrees to far :v
11:04:14 syv: Ahh, that's what happee\ned.
11:05:58 ER: So I guess we're done with Cabal until
Pw updates today?
11:07:18 Devastator: I posted if
syv wants to respond.
11:08:16 RC: We were a credit to our team on that one :p
11:08:31 syv: I'm not sure whether to mass on leader or not
11:08:54 syv: All there is to say is just "yeah i totes can", should I post that?
11:08:58 ER: hey look, a juicy airstrike target~
11:09:01 RC: I think you only want to mass a lot when medics are doing their AoE heals or buffs.
11:09:21 Devastator: mmm, want to change one line first.
11:09:26 RC: maybe keep the trumpet guy on your screen, other than that probably not.
11:09:56 Devastator: I'd like something to indicate if Ekrov likes them or doesn't like them.
11:09:58 ER: does medic melee do anything, you think?
11:10:10 Devastator: because if no statement is made she'll probably re-cast the spell again.
11:14:13 RC: I should probably get out my normal mouse though instead of this one.
11:14:40 syv: Since you want an indication of dislike, I'll add something like him being surprised she likes them.
11:14:41 RC: I'm on my work laptop which has a mac mouse, which has no real scroll wheel, so switching weapons fast is difficult.
11:14:58 syv: Does Apple make anything good?
11:15:10 RC: And sometimes it just starts cycling through my weapons at super speed, which is pretty funny.
11:15:18 ER: but that's what the 1234 keys are for! D:
11:15:34 RC: Only use this because I need it for work.
11:15:58 RC: Yeah, those I have to use, but that means my fingers are away from the wasd keys so can't move and dodge as well.
11:16:14 syv: And here I use SZXC, so it's even worse.
11:16:28 syv: Been considering rebinding the mouse side buttons though.
11:16:35 RC: Usually only an issue if I need to quickly switch in a close-up fight, long distance I can just go into cover and switch.
11:16:42 syv: I guess if I rebound scroll as well I could have five options.
11:16:59 RC: This fucking this has... 1 button.
11:17:04 syv: This is a 10$ mouse. It's not impress... what?
11:17:29 RC: Mac mouse, technically has a right mouse button but doesn't always work properly.
11:19:27 RC: Oof, that didn't take long.
11:19:40 syv: Oh, radioactive means scope
11:22:20 RC: At least we scored more collective kills than deaths! :v
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11:22:55 RC: In case you read this later, I hope nothing bad came up!
11:23:06 RC: just you and me, magic man.
11:23:37 RC: Or not, in case you're sick of it.
11:23:53 RC: Did you ever see magic man from adventure time?
11:24:11 ER: I've watched like 3 episodes of that
11:24:21 RC: Oh man, magic man was the best.
11:24:37 RC: Just an untouchable magic asshole.
11:25:08 RC: Distributing/inflicting weird bullshit upon randos just because he can.
11:25:27 RC: And who will stop him? /normies/?
11:27:49 RC: Hmm, should probably actually finish this article though and then go grab some grub.
11:28:09 RC: Gonna try making moussaka today. Wish me luck~
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16:55:18 er: Thanks for showing up here, though I think I'll be the only one around for a while.
16:56:05 er: But they read logs, so nothing should be missed if you tell me things here
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16:59:21 ER: But then, the most reasonably first course of action would be for
syv to use his third eye on the thing, and I'm unsure if you would approve of me puppeting him into doing something when he's not around at the moment.
17:00:01 Piecewise_: He can't see through the darkness anyways
17:00:07 Piecewise_: magic can't penetrate it
17:00:16 Piecewise_: but physical objects can
17:00:45 Piecewise_: you could stick your hand or wrench in or whatever but a spell will absorb or plink off
17:01:03 Piecewise_: or reflect, if you're unlucky
17:01:07 ER: Where does that information come from?
17:01:54 Piecewise_: From the assumption that
Sy would attempt to see, see nothing, and then
dev would probably attempt to throw a magic eye or something in there and it wouldn't work
17:06:02 ER: Would I be likely to get something interesting if I cast a Sunlight scrying spell to "illuminate the darkness"?
17:06:19 Piecewise_: magic missile at the darkness?
17:06:51 Piecewise_: also, probably not, no
17:06:59 ER: it feels less like yeeting magic force at a magic barrier if it's something symbolic
17:07:21 ER: in this case, simply allowing myself to see the light
17:08:05 ER: oh well, I guess spells won't help directly.
17:08:58 ER: Put my cracked bracer on the end of a rod and stick it through the hole. When I bring it back, is it changed in any way, and does it still have its enchantment?
17:09:30 Piecewise_: Physically unchanged, but no, the magic is gone
17:10:13 Piecewise_: I'm assuming
dev is holding the key, by the way
17:10:31 ER: no easy way to tell if that will strip away our reinforcements without... losing reinforcements.
17:11:08 ER: by which I mean our +1, +2s and such
17:11:31 ER: if it strips enchantments, it would make sense
17:11:53 Piecewise_: it depends on if it effects the body's magic
17:12:03 Piecewise_: but if it effects the body's magic, it might just kill you
17:12:12 Piecewise_: magic is life after all
17:12:43 ER: Is mana life the same way between humans and magical creatures?
17:13:01 ER: IE, if it didn't kill us, is it possible it WOULD kill Salt?
17:14:10 Piecewise_: Yes and no really. When you have zero mana, you don't actually have zero mana. You have zero SURPLUS mana. It doesn't count the inherent mana keeping your body functioning and you alive. Thats why people like
dev could kill a person by draining them too much.
17:14:46 Piecewise_: Salt is much the same but more fragile
17:15:28 Piecewise_: pulling all mana from you is difficult. Its interwoven in you. Salt is kinda made of mana, so its easier to take and causes collapse without as much effort
17:15:49 ER: is it possible for me to acquire a new shield from the supplies saeko's team brought?
17:16:00 ER: because mine happens to be enchanted
17:16:23 Piecewise_: Just a normal shield? Sure. I'm sure there's one around here somewhere.
17:16:55 ER: to my recollection that was my only enchanted item the breakers gave me. is that right?
17:17:29 Piecewise_: Hmmmm you don't have the sword yet...I think thats right
17:18:48 ER: Get a *really* long metal pole and really feel around in there. Can I feel out the immediate surroundings?
17:21:37 Piecewise_: You get a metal pole of lets say 20 feet and swing it around in there. You can feel the edges of the doorway, the floor and ceiling as well, but no matter how far forward you push it, it doesn't seem to enter any other sort of room. Pulling it back works fine. Too fine in fact, it actually gets ejected out of the darkness as soon as you pull it back a bit.
17:22:24 ER: Is the pole affected in any way? Scratches, moisture?
17:23:36 Piecewise_: the way it was ejected was like....if you shoved a wooden pole into water. The same way it would bob back up
17:24:09 ER: Poke it through again and swing it hard at the hallway wall. Does the wall give at all? Does it feel like stone? Something else?
17:24:32 Piecewise_: Stays firm. Feels like metal, or at least something as hard as it
17:24:52 Piecewise_: You don't hear a noise when it hits by the way
17:25:42 Piecewise_: and you can kind of hear the ting of it through the pole, if that makes sense
17:25:46 ER: Take a hollow tube, poke it partway through, and look down the middle.
17:25:59 ER: yeah, that's what I was going for.
17:26:35 ER: too bad, that would be a good lifehack
17:26:50 Piecewise_: Defeat magic barriers with this one weird trick
17:27:27 ER: Can we acquire a classic camera?
17:27:56 Piecewise_: How classic we talking? Obscura? Pin hole?
17:28:29 ER: as high quality as I can get? :V
17:28:47 Piecewise_: The mechanist robots have piezoelectric light sensors that could function as a rudimentary camera with some modifications.
17:28:48 ER: I don't know much about cameras, but I do know that at minimum they're not super high tech
17:29:29 Piecewise_: Those sensors could even work as a video camera of sorts
17:30:09 ER: Can I have Ekrov rig one up? And to confirm, these don't use any magic?
17:30:28 Piecewise_: Nothing the mechanists have or use has magic
17:30:48 Piecewise_: and sure, if you get
sy to ok breaking up one of his beloved iron men
17:31:28 ER: so not without his presence? :V
17:33:27 ER: do you approve of my experimental ways?
17:36:15 Devastator: Well, seems simple enough.
17:36:34 Devastator: did you stick a pole through it and pull it back?
17:36:53 Devastator: Saeko then walks through the darkness.
17:38:04 ER: keep in mind it will probably disenchant anything you have that's enchanted
17:38:15 ER: so leave any of that behind
17:39:07 ER: That also includes disenchanting you, of course.
17:42:15 Devastator: Only horrible if it removes brain words.
17:42:26 Devastator: otherwise, everything she did to herself can be done again.
17:50:33 Devastator: it'll be annoying to redo the ears, since those took a month, but other than that, no biggie.
17:56:55 Devastator: It can't make mages die because I'd bet any amount of money the king was a mage.
17:58:35 Devastator: Yeah,
Piecewise_, going to walk through the door.
17:58:51 Devastator: miiiight be able to do some jiggery pokery with it, but it's time to put up and walk in.
18:02:19 Devastator: you want a list of various enchantments? Since
ER made that test, I'd probably remove the enchanted backpack and any compasses and such.
18:02:35 Devastator: but the 'armour' stays on.
18:06:24 Piecewise_: Do it as an action then, devvy poo
18:06:36 Piecewise_: I'm here for test'an not action
18:07:33 ER: Would higher endurance help with the mana draining,
Piecewise_?
18:07:54 Devastator: just wondering if you want a list of all the various enchantments she's carrying or has.
18:09:18 ER: like, Salt seems to be at some risk, would that be diminished if I got Sae to improve her End?
18:09:37 Devastator: I'd recommend just leaving it behind.
18:09:42 Piecewise_: Maybe
ER. No way to know without shoving
18:09:46 Piecewise_: but i will say this
18:09:59 Piecewise_: be VERY specific with how you enter in regards to each other
18:10:12 Piecewise_: because that matters
18:10:16 Devastator: Well, Saeko's going to go in single file.
18:10:24 Devastator: not holding onto someone else, no touching.
18:10:37 Devastator: I had a line earlier, but I suspect this might be some kinda banish thing or teleporter.
18:13:09 Piecewise_: I will say, I dropped a big hint earlier.
18:13:18 Piecewise_: anyways, back to spells
18:14:51 Devastator: door disappearing into the distance?
18:16:00 Devastator: besides, if Saeko dies, can she play her own animated painting?
18:16:03 Devastator: assuming that happens. ;-p
18:17:58 ER: I guess ek would need to fill the hole in his heart with a superior 2d waifu, so it will DEFINATELY happen if you die
18:18:24 Devastator: that sounds like d12 will, then. ;-p
18:19:08 Piecewise_: The hint was in our conversation on here
18:23:22 ER: make ek's third eye tell em
18:23:39 Piecewise_: LET ME IN LET MEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
18:25:45 ER: eh, I'll let
syv figure out your secret
18:26:29 Devastator: It's fine. I think that might just mean it couldn't teleport the pole in, and it takes mana from whatever goes in to make it teleport.
18:26:42 Devastator: and the pole didn't portal because it didn't go in.
18:26:49 Devastator: ie, didn't go all the way in.
18:27:11 Devastator: it didn't enter the room because it was wrapped up in extradimensioanl portal instead of going into the room.
18:27:13 ER: but the pole doesn't have mana, and it did go partway
18:27:28 Devastator: yeah, but just for the doorway, right?
18:27:37 Devastator: that might be different.
18:27:56 ER:
Piecewise_, yeet a pole through the portal entirely.
18:28:30 Piecewise_: You throw a pole in and....well now you are down one pole
18:28:52 ER: okay, things with background levels of mana can traverse completely,
Dev.
18:29:42 Devastator: well, then it might suck for her to be disenchanted, perhape even to death, but I can't make her not a mage.
18:30:41 ER: we do have non-mages with us, you know.
18:31:08 ER: and being a mage might not matter all that much on the other side, if we don't get an mana
18:32:44 Devastator: I meant 'in order to prevent dying'
18:42:51 Devastator: in case the black mist sucks all the mana out of her.
18:43:06 Devastator: maybe it's expecting someone who carries like 300.
18:43:17 Devastator: although
PW said people didn't carry much mana back in the day, because they dildn't have to.
18:48:03 Devastator: "but when your dives and surfaces come out even, no day is a total loss"
18:48:44 Piecewise_: Diving more than surfacing is bad
18:48:52 Piecewise_: but the real scary thing is when you surface more than you dive
19:18:04 Devastator: you know, if you do literally create an 'enhanced waifu' of Saeko running around for a week, it might kick off an arms race,
ER.
19:21:59 Piecewise_: Begun, the waifu wars have
19:22:31 Devastator: yes. If it's permanent for some reason, probably. If not, I think she'd wait until the other one is gone to make any.. changes.
19:37:22 Devastator: a painting that's flattering is one thing.
19:37:40 ER: gonna make the most flattering painting
19:38:10 ER: people come up to me, they say, "your painting is so wonderful and flattering"
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19:40:22 Devastator_: ahh, brain damage.
19:40:28 Devastator_: you've gotta get rid of that thing.
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23:30:45 Devastator: "I decided on our tactics for the coming day. I doubted that they had been tried before; they hadn’t in Wahoo, and that covered most everything that submarines had ever done."
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