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00:43:46 IronyOwl: how much would a battleship or carrier cost, assuming there are any for sale?
00:45:44 IronyOwl: ideally yes, though diesel + refit is an option
00:46:08 Devastator: This isn't a firm number, but about 900-1000.
00:46:27 IronyOwl: huh, not that bad actually
00:46:31 IronyOwl: how much could it carry?
00:46:37 Devastator: a battleship doesn't exist, but about 1200-1500.
00:46:50 IronyOwl: I mean, it's probably abysmal benefit for cost, but it's not out of reach if there was cause for one
00:46:58 Devastator: that's with four-ish plane slots.
00:47:02 Devastator: do note that isn't a solid number.
00:47:06 Devastator: and they aren't available.
00:47:14 Devastator: Also, that's cost, not what you buy it fore.
00:47:31 Devastator: cost would be 2-3x or so.
00:48:12 IronyOwl: didn't you say there were obsolete battleships I might be able to buy?
00:48:56 Devastator: If I did, I don't remember it.
00:49:06 Devastator: I do remember saying you could buy a missile boat.
00:49:17 Devastator: if you ask me that price I gotta get my notes out because that would be available.
00:49:41 IronyOwl: I'd like to know, but it doesn't have to be now if it's inconvenient
00:50:08 IronyOwl: a more pressing question is why boat transports appear to be so expensive for their benefit
00:50:33 Devastator: if by so expensive you mean '2/3 the price of an equivalent air transport.'
00:51:01 IronyOwl: well yeah, but slow instead of fast
00:51:48 Devastator: that's what they are.
00:52:21 IronyOwl: so would fast boats be less efficient than fast planes?
00:53:37 Devastator: design one and see..
00:56:03 Devastator: sorry, prices for stuff for sale I'm willing to ask, but not for stuff that doesn't exist.
00:56:17 IronyOwl: ah, that's what I was afraid of
00:56:37 IronyOwl: that fast transports don't exist atm
00:56:42 IronyOwl: what about medium speed?
00:58:23 Devastator: medium speed transports exist.
00:58:27 Devastator: didn't I quote you one?
00:59:19 Devastator: maybe that was
syv.
00:59:23 Devastator: it'd be around 200-250 for sale.
00:59:48 Devastator: btw, that's for a Large ship that carries two Mediums.
01:02:01 Devastator: Do note that air transports have a relatively small markup, being part of a highly competitive civilian market.
01:02:24 IronyOwl: so transport ships might be cheaper in cost but inflated in price?
01:02:28 Devastator: fast boat ferries are disturbingly expensive, and their savings aren't relevant to you.
01:02:54 Devastator: Yeah. the kind of medium-speed boats you have to buy are pretty rare.
01:04:18 Devastator: Bigger boats might have a smaller markup.
01:04:49 IronyOwl: are there massive shipping vessels for sale?
01:05:08 Devastator: Yeah, they basically go all the way up in slow.
01:05:20 Devastator: in medium speed you can get Huge vessels.
01:05:40 Devastator: in slow you can buy basically any real-world merchant ship.
01:06:14 Devastator: there are a fair number of Huge ro-ro car ferries that qualify as medium, and some of those might have lower markups being more common.
01:07:05 Devastator: Giant ones are probably available, but I want to scrutinize some more examples first.
01:08:46 Devastator: Military MVs I need to look up examples for, but there are basically no relevant Fast ships. The period fast assault transports are helicopter carriers.
01:09:00 Devastator: mind you, fast is -quite- fast for most ships.
01:09:08 Devastator: so not much qualifies.
01:09:55 Devastator: a medium-speed Large ship with two meds of carry space is basically a modified yacht.
01:10:29 Devastator: Huge and up brings in more practical vessels.
01:12:18 Devastator: If you want a helicarrier, btw, one should be available.
01:21:46 IronyOwl: are there Huge+ medium speed ships you can quote a price for?
01:22:24 Devastator: Give me a specific list of speed and carrying capacity.
01:22:40 Devastator: ie, pick one size class, one speed, and what you want it to carry.
01:22:52 IronyOwl: Huge Size, Medium Speed, x2 Large slots
01:25:42 Devastator: 325-350, depending on how I feel.
01:25:59 Devastator: could live with 300.
01:26:37 IronyOwl: so at least within striking distance of equivalent-ish air transport
04:04:24 Devastator: oh, you can't get the ten cheerleaders bonus level twice in Zombies Ate my Neighbors.
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05:12:20 syv: Hrm. Pretty sure I meant to pop on here and yell at
Dev about something.
05:12:26 syv: Buuuut I forget what it was.
05:18:34 Devastator: was hoping you'd be around, don't want to stay up too late today.
05:18:48 Devastator: need to pop in to work for like a few hours tomorrow. Gotta unload a truck.
05:20:12 Devastator: no weekends anymore, and it looks like it'll be like 3 days a week, or 5 days with 1/4 the staff or so.
05:20:23 Devastator: tomorrow it's me and two others.
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19:36:52 Devastator: cougar tracks in my yard.
19:37:31 Devastator: I haven't actually seen this one, but I know there's one living near here.
19:40:24 Devastator: yeah, definately that cougar.
19:49:07 Devastator: Ever seen a cougar?
19:52:48 Piecewise_: the big cat or the older woman?
19:53:51 ER: also, kinda not a big cat, depending on how you looks at it
19:54:02 ER: they're closer to house cats than to lions
19:55:47 Devastator: got one living near my house and it padded through my yard today.
20:06:04 Devastator: ..what would the other kind of cougar leave for tracks?
20:22:39 Devastator: That's the league commissioner they're booing, btw.
20:23:49 Devastator: He's actually not that bad on an absolute or relative scale, just..
20:25:34 Devastator: Man, if the Jets or the new Nordiques win one they'd boo him worse.
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21:15:52 RC: Good evening you Shawinigan handshakes.
21:22:18 ER: stayin' alive, stayin' alive
21:23:28 RC: Went for a run today, forget to bring a carrot for the horses though.
21:25:31 Devastator: There's cougar tracks just outside my front door.
21:26:18 RC: A tank with catgirl tracks.
21:26:20 Devastator: yeah, I know one's living around here, but hadn't seen it this year.
21:26:28 RC: Just a bunch of them sewn together.
21:26:50 RC: I guess it mostly avoids human contact?
21:28:47 Devastator: Usually, yeah. I know it's around because I see tracks in winter from time to time.
21:28:56 RC: No Egan, you are the humans.
21:28:56 Devastator: I know roughly where it beds, but not exactly.
21:32:40 Devastator: I'll let you know if there are kittens.
21:40:30 RC: Been playing that surviv.io game again a little bit.
21:40:57 Devastator: I wouldn't mind a game or two of that.
21:41:06 RC: Apparently they have a rotating set of special rounds, some of these are neato.
21:41:19 RC: 50v50 can be a hilarious clusterfuck.
21:41:55 RC: We could, but not right now, playing some jackbox
21:41:56 Devastator: you want a round or two?
21:50:09 RC: Also I am incredibly bad at it.
21:50:24 Devastator: jackbox or surviv.io?
21:50:53 Devastator: so what horrible thing are you going to loose on the world in Cabal?
21:55:44 RC: Dunno, but we're not planning anything nefarious so should be ok.
21:56:02 RC: Just hoping we can take it without having to ice any of them.
21:56:09 Devastator: 'obviously intended to be kept seperate' is a good sign.
21:56:15 Devastator: a really good sign, naturally.
21:56:31 RC: Just got a random room code for jackbox caled 'SARS'.
21:57:07 RC: Hey, if the gm gives us a fun quest, we're going for it!
21:57:34 Devastator: oh well, if you release something nasty, it'll just have to die under saeko's claws.
21:58:03 ER: assuming she won't be busy doing evil
21:58:30 Devastator: eh, nothing that dramatic yet.
21:58:42 Devastator: but you're right near where I'd like to build a base, so..
22:01:00 RC: Eh, we'll move on once we have it and/or crash and burn.
22:06:06 Devastator: too bad, I kinda do want to do horrible monster self-tinker.
22:06:10 Devastator: I think
PW would enjoy it.
22:09:54 RC: I just convinced someone to think 'electric canine burglar alarm' was the correct answer.
22:12:46 Devastator: 'nuclear electric canine burglar alarm'
22:44:02 RC: Scored big points right at the end and secured victory by convincing people there is a legend in Kentucky of a mythical half-redneck half-latino creature.
22:44:56 RC: ...they maaay not have been voting 100% serious on that one :v
22:45:09 RC: Anyways, it's late, gonna head off.
22:52:23 Devastator: easy topic these days.
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