02:13:55 Devastator:
ER still not give orders in Cabal.
02:14:15 Piecewise: Did he give a reason?
02:14:29 Piecewise: He's around, I fucking see you on here and other places
ER
02:14:51 Piecewise: DOn't act like you can't go into cabal and shit post a sentence or two
02:18:16 Devastator: well, let me know if you want me to post something.
02:18:30 Devastator: Also, going to delay K-com a bit, getting busy at work again.
02:18:42 Devastator: I'll take a few days off in March, will do the battle of New York then.
02:18:50 Devastator: it deserves more than a few tired sentences.
02:31:17 Devastator: Also, since our dragon in
paris's dragongame is apparantly a vigilante hero, we should have a hero name.
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02:33:51 IronyOwl: I am saddened by this news
Dev D:
02:34:04 IronyOwl: But also concerned that you're so busy
02:36:10 Devastator: I was reading through sh, and realized I wasn't putting in the effort needed to do my battles right.
02:36:21 Devastator: and this one is about a 1/31 chance to hit a major city.
02:40:46 IronyOwl: Yeah haven't been by in a while
02:41:46 IronyOwl: Floundering a bit creatively though
02:42:02 IronyOwl: Plus every game I'm excited about is slow :p
02:42:06 Devastator: Did you ever see my suggestion game Sh?
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02:43:37 IronyOwl: Have you too come to lament the slumber?
02:44:09 IronyOwl: Kaiju-Com's on haitus now D:
02:44:34 Devastator: Also, what should dragon-hero be named?
02:45:13 Devastator:
paris's dragongame we just killed a murderer and ate his body, and am now leaving a note written in blood.
02:45:37 IronyOwl: Artarus? Hamhelm? Leaf?
02:47:45 ER: you have witnessed the terrible vengeance of Doctor Dragon
02:47:52 Devastator: "Leaf" sounds good, actually.
02:48:00 Devastator: particularly since we've never seen one.
02:48:07 ER: We *could* totally go mad scientist dragon, you know
02:48:39 Devastator: we can do that and be a vigilante.
02:49:23 ER: yeah, but a mad scientist vigilante is just "doctor [something]"
02:49:37 Devastator: Doctor Doctor Dragon.
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02:52:41 Devastator: sorry about the delay.
02:52:44 MidJag: I support doctor doctor dragon as a name.
02:53:15 MidJag: Not a big deal, I'm busy enough right now I don't really have time to stay up to date on it.
03:02:16 ER: I feel like... start game....
03:02:45 ER: maybe I just subsist on killing my own projects. hmm.
03:04:38 ER: okay so... ISG featuring an experinced necromancer, probably featuring horrible attempts at line art
03:05:41 ER: probably PvE to save on work arms race "clone", featuring floating islands, airships, strange sky-beasts, and kobolds
03:06:51 ER: roguelike-ish RTD, with a focus on preperation, conserving resources inside a dungeon, and lots of random generation
03:07:09 ER: pretty sure those are the only things actively on my mind
03:07:29 MidJag: I like the airships one, but I also like airships
03:07:47 IronyOwl: Necromancer's probably my favorite
03:07:49 Devastator: maybe I should re-run Sh while on hiatus for kaiju-com.
03:08:06 Devastator: no killing the character this time?
03:08:16 MidJag: Ah right, we died on that boat right?
03:08:31 ER: I don't remember how I did that, so I can't say I've learned from the expereince!
03:09:11 Devastator: you took a mission to be DEATH OR GLORY when your boss didn't even officially take the job.
03:09:57 Devastator: and you had a genuine magic sword, too!
03:10:10 ER: well I'm currently running away from reinforcements in Ebony, so maybe I'm slightly wiser now. :P
03:10:25 MidJag: I thought geniunines of the magic sword, was shrouded in mystery
03:10:43 Devastator: Dangit, haven't had a turn in that in weeks.
03:11:01 ER: then again that's mostly because I'm pretty sure staying and fighting would involve some murder when so far I'd only been breaking and entering, so maybe not
03:11:07 Devastator: and yeah, it's genuine magic. You would have known after it re-appeared from nowhere, or when someone else touched it.
03:11:32 Devastator: for you it's just a really awesome sword, but it wouldn't make much of a difference until you hit +3/+3.
03:12:04 Devastator: you would have had an extra combat point from then on, which isn't huuuge, but something.
03:12:12 Devastator: particularly if you got extra power through some other way, too.
03:12:45 Devastator: Can you poke whisperling for me,
ER?
03:12:49 Devastator wants more turns. ;-p
03:13:13 Devastator: because basically nobody has more than +4 in anything, so..
03:15:09 Devastator: and basically nobody has a +4.
03:15:52 ER: get that john wick skill level
03:18:24 Devastator: Not quite how Sh works.
03:18:35 Devastator: although, there are exceptions. Your brain spirits rolled a +8 for combat.
03:18:55 Devastator: you were ONE point from having that first guy poking them to die with kaboom head.
03:19:06 Devastator: when they were trying to be nonlethal.
03:19:18 ER slightly wishes that we'd run that magic cats and magic mice setting
03:22:42 ER: uh, I'd have to look back through my PMs
03:23:00 ER:
dev generated a world with his little tables and me and
syv fleshed it out some
03:23:20 MidJag: Essentially, Mice are facsist cat's are sociopathic anarchsists.
03:23:48 ER: that's probably an oversimplification
03:25:27 Devastator: that sounds like cats.
03:25:34 Devastator: sociopathic anarchists.
03:25:50 Devastator: Also, I remember you guys were limited to exactly one cat outside of cat island.
03:26:25 ER: argh, I guess with google docs I can't make a second link which only lets you view?
03:28:39 ER: there's a copy of it though
03:28:44 Devastator: that's fine, I can not read it if you want.
03:29:29 Devastator: IIRC, that was supposed to be a surpise setting which I'd run if you had ready as of Jan 1.
03:30:22 ER: ...I can't remember in what way we didn't have it ready
03:32:33 ER: I do kinda like how
dev rolled no divine magic, but me and
syv insisted on having the existing magitech be culturally linked to religion. :P
03:33:30 Devastator: that's fine, I know how they're differen in rtstw.
03:34:12 ER: yeah, arcane magic that's considered holy
03:35:25 Devastator: It just means those gods aren't actually there.
03:36:48 IronyOwl: Haggard Fuzzy Toad of Doom
03:38:55 Devastator: Happy fun table of doom.
03:39:01 ER:
Dev, would you consider using this setting for the thing you say you might run on kaiju hiatus? :V
03:39:10 Devastator: I'd rather partially rewind Sh.
03:42:45 Devastator: partially rewinding Sh.
03:43:00 Devastator: god, you guys wasted so many actions working a job for one silver.
03:43:20 IronyOwl: That's democracy for ya XD
03:43:31 ER: mentioning silver pieces reminded me
03:43:32 Devastator: "I've got an important mission to save the world!"
03:43:41 Devastator: "Nah, being a commoner sweeping a house is much more important."
03:44:09 IronyOwl: I'd have made the same mistake, assuming money is important and being uncertain I could do any better
03:44:10 Devastator: "Despite me having an income and doing this for pocket money."
03:44:23 Devastator: Money could well be important, but you can do better than that.
03:44:31 ER: there should be a setting where 1 gold is worth exactly 10 silver or 100 copper because like any gold object, you can literally split a coin out into 10 identical silver coins
03:44:55 IronyOwl: Matter in general could be made of "layered' lower-tier materials
03:45:05 ER: therefore, if you make a solid gold arrow, you can shoot it and have it split into 100 solid copper arrows right before impact.
03:45:08 IronyOwl: High-end wood is literally 10 or 100 shoddy woods
03:45:23 IronyOwl: Also great for showering the enemy army with sand
03:45:40 IronyOwl: Fire a single crystal arrow that breaks down into 100,000 sand arrows
03:45:53 Devastator: I do like the Sh OP.
03:46:06 Devastator: nobody read it, but it was important.
03:48:59 Devastator: who are you, naturegirl.
03:49:39 IronyOwl: "Under a sun being eaten by darkness"
03:50:53 IronyOwl: Also, I take it we were a repeatedly reincarnating hero continually facing this threat?
03:51:22 Devastator: this is something new.
03:54:17 Devastator: the spirits chose you for a very specific reason.
03:54:27 MidJag: We did kinda fuck up that place by dint of diying
03:54:42 Devastator: Eh, it'd survive, but yeah, that was a catastrophe.
03:55:23 IronyOwl: I notice there was the usual cat-herding of plans early on
03:56:08 Devastator: well, not that specific.
03:56:15 Devastator: but you fill all the necessary boxes.
03:57:00 Devastator: and yes, cat-herding.
04:06:36 IronyOwl: You should restart Sh
04:06:48 IronyOwl: It looks good and you seem to have enjoyed it
04:07:01 Devastator: could do a straight reset.
04:07:10 IronyOwl: Sh 4: Mountain Of Literal Sharks
04:07:16 ER: I'm fine with everything :)
04:07:27 IronyOwl: same, I'm sure anything would work out
04:07:36 IronyOwl: Though it'd be easiest for new players to get into a completely new game
04:09:49 ER: I'm re-reading the mouse and cat doc and thinking about what could have been :(
04:11:00 Devastator: well, go play some more terranigma.
04:13:12 IronyOwl:
ER did you really want to rush the first cave you heard of on the basis that the ancient evil will be weaker than you at level 1?
04:13:57 Devastator: Did I say that in Sh?
04:14:00 ER: I am known to GO FACE SMORK occassionally
04:14:03 Devastator: I mean, that might be technically true.
04:14:38 IronyOwl:
ER was all gung-ho about a mine in revolt because SLAY EVIL NOW THIS IS DEFINITELY THE CAVE I AM LOOKING FOR
04:15:06 Devastator: I think on here I did say that there would be some development of the bad guy's strength as time passed.
04:23:19 Devastator: ok, I'll relaunch it.
04:25:01 Piecewise: POOOOOSTINNNNNNNG~~~~
04:26:26 ER: go eat some white american cheese
04:26:39 Piecewise: White american cheese?
04:26:48 Piecewise: How goes dying of school?
04:27:20 Piecewise: Unrelated note, do you think
ER should post? I think he should post
04:27:33 MidJag: Not too bad, currently in the acute phase, since I got a test tommorow, and 2 more on friday. But it should pass soon.
04:27:59 Piecewise: And move on to the late toxicities of student debt and crushing existentialism
04:29:28 Devastator: posting the [Sh] 2 OP.
04:30:38 Devastator: Yeah. I don't want to stop writing before a writing crunch period, so relaunching a very old forum game of mine.
04:30:39 MidJag: True, but at least there will probably be parties at the end.
04:31:24 ER: why be rich but technically poor because of student debt when you could cut out the middleman and just be poor? Checkmate, educated people!
04:32:21 ER: looks like you accidentially double posted,
dev?
04:32:37 ER: two copies of the second post
04:32:42 Devastator: it's ok, I need one extra post for the explanation.
04:35:25 Piecewise: I choose not to play because the title reminds me of my endless acronym hell
04:35:36 Devastator: I could translate it..
04:35:39 Piecewise: I DON'T KNOW WHAT SG OR SH OR ANY OF THIS IS
04:35:53 Devastator: It's a suggestion game.
04:36:15 Piecewise: I SUGGEST I NOT PLAY
04:45:09 IronyOwl: This time we're (hopefully) gonna quit our day job and become a hero (and/or villain) immediately!
04:48:40 Devastator: ok.. we have TWO votes.
04:49:22 MidJag: ....or you can like just go ahead. Don't wait on me
04:49:49 IronyOwl: (Mindlessly +1 my genoc- friendly plans first)
04:50:10 Devastator: I need more than two votes that oppose each other.
04:50:33 Devastator: ok, you guys have.. 52 minutes while I watch this video.
04:50:35 Devastator: lets see how that goes.
04:51:02 IronyOwl: "poorly, like all our efforts"
04:51:22 Devastator: NRDL also didn't read the 'two actions this week' thing.
04:52:04 IronyOwl: In his defense it's hard to parse lots of text without any of it bolded or anything, and he's correct that MOST weeks have 5 actions
04:53:09 Devastator: That's true enough.
04:53:20 Devastator: can you point that out? I wanna go watch this vid. ;-p
04:53:30 Devastator: It's not unreasonable to miss that.
04:53:37 Devastator: and I don't want to push a character off.
04:53:41 IronyOwl: Aha, he caught it on his own
04:57:01 Devastator: "5 actions is for filthy, unwashed losers with no external duties of their own. If you are undergoing formal training or have a job or something, your time is no longer your own, and you will have less of it! ;-p
04:57:44 MidJag: We just need to not sleep.
04:57:49 MidJag: This will solve many problems
04:58:08 IronyOwl: I wonder if we can acquire vampirism, Elder Scrolls style...
04:58:19 IronyOwl: (eg a bad idea but fun)
04:58:48 Devastator: TES style vampirism is an extremely good idea.
04:58:51 ER: time to link this image for the third time in a short period
04:58:56 Devastator: and yeah, you can do all sorts of fun stuff with magic.
04:59:14 Devastator: I recommend using planning actions.
05:02:29 IronyOwl: Shouldn't we found our own cult first?
05:02:55 Devastator: Man, that'd be some planning action.
05:03:03 Devastator: or you can wing it.
05:03:12 IronyOwl: Speaking of which Prequel, update damn you!
05:03:14 Devastator: planning only tells you what the rolls will be, so you can find bonuses or assistance to fit.
05:03:23 Devastator: Katia, cult object.
05:03:26 Devastator: isn't that normal Katia.
05:03:32 Devastator: but.. it's a good idea to have some of those.
05:03:51 ER: think I'll stay as the voice of unreason this time
05:04:32 Devastator: You know, I'm wondering about Katia's backstory.
05:04:56 Devastator: she can hold like waaay too much magic, was a cult follower/object forever, and has all sorts of weird things wrong with her.
05:05:34 ER: she's useless most of the time and weirdly good at very specific things. :P
05:07:56 Devastator: also has apparently had sex with something bigger than a horse.
05:09:03 ER: you mean she has too much max mana even accounting for atronach?
05:09:23 Devastator: it's hard to judge, but she has like waay too much.
05:09:34 Devastator: like she's on Morrowind rules for that.
05:09:44 ER: well, I've been assuming she's the Oblivion protag, so she could be pretty OP
05:10:26 Devastator: still not sure about that myself.
05:10:33 Devastator: I hope not, personally.
05:11:43 IronyOwl: What makes you say she's got max int?
05:11:56 Devastator: speed reading, and completing the peg puzzle in a one-shot.
05:12:37 ER: yeah, she's really good with reading, writing, drawing, learning...
05:13:07 ER: and can't resist doing things she knows is a bad idea already.
05:13:07 IronyOwl: I mean, she did spell a sign wrong
05:13:14 IronyOwl: It was beautiful calligraphy, but still wrong
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05:13:29 ER: well yeah, most smart people are idiots
05:13:44 ER: at least, that's what I tell myself ;P
05:15:52 Devastator: Ahh, voice of non-reason.
05:16:26 Devastator: ugh, no whisperling turns again.
05:16:31 Devastator: so it goes, I suppose.
05:17:04 ER: I can scream into the void for you, but the void ain't listening~
05:17:16 Devastator: Ahh, thought he was.
05:18:05 IronyOwl: Man, rereading parts of Prequel has reminded me how amazing some of the dialogue is
05:18:34 ER: I just went back through the whole thing
05:21:18 Devastator: Yes, to my great shame.
05:23:10 ER: let it be known to all IRC that Kofiman is
Dev
05:23:27 ER: and there's a whole page of prequel whose purpose is to call him rude
05:23:55 IronyOwl: That's amazing, hahahahaha
05:25:07 Devastator: I'm also the proud owner of both game prizes.
05:28:13 Devastator: they're two small buttons.
05:34:53 Devastator: one a green one with katia on it looking sad and cute, and one, a blue one with quill-weave on it looking apprehensive.
05:49:43 Devastator: welp, that's a crit.
05:50:11 Devastator: you overshoot critted on the quit job action, so you get a favor.
05:50:41 Devastator: also, he probably wants to have sex with you, but I'd rather not RP that.
05:51:18 ER: not sure if I'm happy about that or sad
05:52:14 Devastator: yeah, I'll give you some kind of indication that he wants that but keep it subdued.
05:52:24 Devastator: I swear, random crits were all over the place in the original Sh, too.
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05:54:09 MidJag: I figure Katia is oblivions protag, but eh.
05:54:35 MidJag: Perhaps she's like an an attempt by a cult to make a protagnoist.
05:54:41 ER: either way I want the comic to end with an oblivion mod
05:55:31 MidJag: Perhaps she's actually skyrims protag :P
06:06:02 Devastator: and.. crit fumble on shopping.
06:06:18 Devastator: welp, that's a negative encounter. Do you get scammed or mugged or something? Lets see.
06:07:18 MidJag: and thus we see Sh's descent into Katia
06:09:16 Devastator: Getting kidnapped by a cult is going to take more than one bad roll.
06:09:31 Devastator: No, that does not happen.
06:10:14 Devastator: Ok, now for the flavor roll..
06:10:53 MidJag: huh, maybe Katia just got kidnapped by a cult and is responsible for her absoultely insanse luck.
06:11:09 MidJag: Some weird fate based experiment
06:11:35 Devastator: Ok, that's not that bad.
06:12:00 ER: my theory for Katia is that everyone else has "luck", and she doesn't. Things that happen to her are pure RNG
06:12:16 ER: and thus, sometimes stupidly good or bad, because RNG
06:12:39 ER: Everyone else's fate is predetermined, and therefore SANE
06:13:47 MidJag: Hmm, I could see that, she's the only one not bound by the rules of narritive.
06:14:48 ER: (which happens to be what being an ES player character means ;P )
06:15:15 MidJag: Is there a luck stat in oblivion?
06:15:44 ER: don't think those games have stats like that, no
06:15:59 ER: I've barely played an ES game lol
06:16:38 MidJag: Skyrim doesn't have anything like that, and it's the only ES I've ever played
06:17:23 Devastator: Yes there's a luck stat in oblivion.
06:17:43 Devastator: there are stats in all pre-skyrim TES games.
06:17:50 Devastator: Morrowind and Oblivion have stats and skills.
06:18:03 ER: huh, wonder why they removed that
06:18:25 ER: copied from DnD or something else?
06:19:17 MidJag: Becuase stats are LAME~
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06:20:03 Devastator: They were removed for a bunch of good reasons and a bunch of bad ones.
06:20:33 Devastator: It's an understandable decision, but they forgot why they did it at some point during the design, because they then added in all the downsides with their perks.
06:21:14 Devastator: Stats, in Oblivion, are Strength, Agility, Speed, Endurance, Intelligence, Willpower, and Luck.
06:21:54 MidJag: So does Katia just have like a negative luck?
06:22:17 Devastator: Well, at zero luck, in Oblivion she'd have effectively -40 points in all skills.
06:22:34 Devastator: which explains a lot of what she can't do.
06:23:27 Devastator: well, that sort of makes up for it.
06:23:34 Devastator: you just bought a perfectly fine weapon at a good price.
06:25:56 Devastator: Oh, that's right, should roll to charm the shopkeeper.
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06:27:59 ER: dammit, now I want to get back into morrowind
06:28:17 ER: but i remember doing a lot of work to set it up just how I wanted it
06:28:27 ER: and I'm not sure if it still will be
06:29:37 Devastator: well, actually, with two crits like that in a turn, you're getting a +1 to the stat.
06:30:04 Devastator: that's the basic guideline, two random crit successes at something gives you a +1.
06:30:16 Devastator: it won't go above that unless you actively pursue that skill.
06:49:00 ER: is it still this week, I guess?
06:49:14 Devastator: No, it's next week now.
06:49:35 Devastator: Five actions this week. And yes, you can do only some of them.
06:51:09 Devastator: rolled the turn, and then posted the end-of week stuff.
06:55:48 Devastator: you want me to answer that,
ER? ;-p
06:57:58 Devastator: Basically, look at the OP, and come up with something. ;-p
06:58:11 Devastator: feel free to do planning actions to get an idea, but those take actions.
06:58:48 ER: find some demons to stab and steal their souls, you say?
07:02:15 Devastator: demons don't quite work that way here, I'm afraid.
07:02:28 Devastator: although I suppose it depends on what kind of 'demons'
07:03:13 ER: well, less like steal their souls, more like absorb the power of their souls
07:03:22 ER: like, you know, Demon's Souls
07:03:37 ER: "a power beyond human imagination"
07:10:18 ER: has Prequel updated since I last- no? damn.
07:10:36 ER: oh well, see you in 3 hours, prequel front page
07:11:48 Devastator: the method of doing that isn't the sword-sticking part.
07:11:55 Devastator: but yes, you can use killing as a power source.
07:12:02 Devastator: but you don't know enough magic to do that.
07:12:29 ER: just kill every living thing, then we can defeat the evil trying to destroy the world easy
07:14:03 Devastator: the evil is caused by a living being, so yes.
07:26:05 MidJag: See, we just need to become a vmap
07:27:20 Devastator: was it you I asked to suggest something ridiculous so I could plan magic for Sh,
MJ?
07:27:23 Devastator: or was that Toaster?
07:31:09 Devastator: chinese vamps are also weird.
07:32:32 IronyOwl: Are those the headless hoppy ones?
07:33:22 Devastator: there's more than one variety.
07:33:52 Devastator: and most of them kinda suck.
07:34:14 ER: I just wanna be an ES vamp ;-;
07:34:55 Devastator: well, then write out what you want. ;-p
07:37:39 Devastator: it's not as simple as Whisperling's game, thoguh.
07:40:08 MidJag: I don't recall you asking me to suggest anything ridiculous for Sh
07:49:50 Devastator: it was a while ago.
07:51:45 MidJag: yeah, that was probably toaster
07:52:06 MidJag: You've asked me to come up with many ridiculous things, but I don't think any were for sh
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07:57:33 Devastator: I should interpret NRDL's charm people action as an effort to train the skill.
07:57:42 Devastator: if it's an action, it's a training effort.
07:58:24 ER: get charm super high, then buff it with magic~
07:58:43 Devastator: it's not impossible, yeah.
07:58:48 Devastator: but it won't do it alone.
07:59:23 ER: "hey ancient evil, fuck off will you"
08:00:23 Devastator: Nah, it's more that you can't solve it with one skill check, regardless of skill. It isn't that simple.
08:01:57 ER: I roll to seduce the capital E Enemy
08:02:11 Devastator: that doesn't solve the problem.
08:02:50 ER: maybe the problem was that we weren't in a relationship with an eldritch being
08:03:26 Devastator: if you want to seduce an eldritch being, go for it.
08:03:36 Devastator: but that won't solve the problem in and of itself.
08:05:06 ER: like I said, if we define the problem in a certain way, that has to be victory. :P
08:05:38 Devastator: no, the problem is defined for you this time.
08:06:35 ER: but we can choose to ignore it and make our own proble- I mean, gouls
08:06:38 Devastator: rolling the dice for Zavi,
ER.
08:06:48 Devastator: 1 you fly up with us.
08:06:51 Devastator: 2 you stay on the ground.
08:10:30 Devastator: unless you post something, naturally.
08:36:27 Devastator: basically,
er, +1 is someone good at something.
08:36:32 Devastator: +2 is someone very good.
08:36:38 ER: I'm going to... go to bed...
08:37:01 ER: I wanted to maybe write things for games? and I didn't today.
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