02:01:33 piecewise: Whats the difference between normal and director cut?
04:22:45 Devastator: lost a roguelike character stupidly the other day.
04:32:15 piecewise: all tames are roguelikes these days it seems
04:36:51 Devastator: ..it's like 95% closer to rogue than most roguelikes today.
04:37:25 piecewise: most "roguelikes" are so different from rogue as to be meaningless
04:37:43 piecewise: Its gotten to the point that people don't even seem to understand the concept
04:38:30 piecewise: I've legitimately seen people arguing things like "If it has meta game progression its a rogue-like, but if not then its a rogue"
04:38:51 piecewise: Isn't ivan a pretty strange game?
04:41:01 Devastator: Nah, it qualifies though.
04:42:04 Devastator: it's got a simple generated dungeon with a mixture of fixed and random elements, permadeath, tile-based maze exploration..
04:42:17 Devastator: there's no innovations in gameplay that would disqualify it.
04:42:32 Devastator: the weird theming and hitpoint system is ok.
04:42:48 piecewise: Yeah, I know its a true rogue like
04:42:58 piecewise: I just heard odd things about its theme and such
04:43:01 piecewise: something about bananas
04:46:22 Devastator: But it has an interesting mix of unreserved hatred of the player succeeding without having awful controls or gameplay, which is weird.
04:47:36 Devastator: pick up artifact banana, step on mine a few spaces away, kaboom, kaboom, dead.
04:48:01 Devastator: and with a late-game character who bypassed the absurdly lethal boss monster that is spawned to kill overpowered characters.
04:48:19 Devastator: could stream it for you, if you want.
05:08:34 piecewise: helping my girlfriend so a shrine in BOTW
05:08:55 Devastator: yeah, can't top that.
05:09:43 piecewise: You ever play...what was it....caves of Qud?
05:10:06 Devastator: I've heard the name, but I'm gonna say no.
05:12:25 piecewise: You might like it. PRetty neat open world roguelike set in a weird far future
05:13:15 Devastator: looked up it's wiki page.
05:13:31 Devastator: 'first public alpha, aug 8, 2006.'
05:13:38 Devastator: Who the fuck told me about it? Dammit.
05:15:00 piecewise: Sadly Qud used to be free but is now pay for to fund development
05:15:18 Devastator: I can understand that.
05:17:08 piecewise: Cogmind is like that too
05:18:08 Devastator: well, lemme know if and when you're up for a stream.
05:18:19 piecewise: I'd be ok with watching one now if you want
05:19:35 piecewise: I'm just idly watching my girlfriend play, jotting some notes down on the plamo impressions page, watching random youtube stuff, etc
05:19:49 piecewise: nothing I'm super focused on
05:22:15 Devastator: twitch.tv/kofiman19
05:23:20 piecewise: Are you talking? If so, can't hear it
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05:26:44 piecewise: >Kill boss with note
05:27:29 piecewise: Enslaved and turned into bananas
05:28:24 piecewise: ALready Sonic is starting shit
05:29:55 piecewise: STrike the zombie in the groin eh?
05:30:31 MidJag: There are like veteran kamikaze dwarves in this game aren't there?
05:31:47 piecewise: >Man stabbed responds "Exactly as planned!"
05:34:42 MidJag: perhaps ommels are in the same genus as alot's
05:35:52 piecewise: Well, you're mildly lawful right now, so I guess its time to become THE LAAAAW
05:38:29 MidJag:
dev did I ever tell you I actually got a win in stone soup?
05:39:46 piecewise: But can you kill someone with it like the guy in Shootem up?
05:41:04 piecewise: Shoot'em up is a good movie. Man killed with a carrot in the first 3 minutes.
05:41:09 piecewise: Also, how OP is wish?
05:41:24 MidJag: I've never heard of it, but it sounds entertaining.
05:44:37 piecewise: so are kobolds little lizards or weird dog men in this game?
05:45:38 MidJag: Man, shootem'up looks amazing
05:49:09 piecewise: that always works great for concussions
05:51:24 piecewise: "The positive effects of being poisoned"
05:53:07 piecewise: Can you train in 100X gravity?
06:04:04 piecewise: Is that steel from a meteor?
06:05:35 piecewise: Nothing fills the belly like extreme exercise
06:21:12 piecewise: Can you become a werewolf?
06:45:36 piecewise: I'm gonna call it a night
dev. Getting late for me. I'll see you tomorrow, good luck on the run.
06:51:18 Devastator: thanks for watching.
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06:52:18 Devastator: hmm, should use alternate material limbs.
06:52:28 Devastator: I think
PW would appreciate spider-silk arms.
06:53:49 Devastator: 20 int is unfortunately not enough to do anything interesting in the version I'm playing with CM.
06:54:46 Devastator: the fun stuff is at like int 35 or something.
06:55:04 Devastator: which would be possible if I had a helm of brilliance. I can get like 4 more points from talking to people, which would put it at 24.
06:55:22 Devastator: a +9 or +10 helm of brilliance would cover the difference.
07:01:26 Devastator: oh, you need a lot of scrolls of repair if you go that route.
07:01:33 Devastator: artificial limbs don't automatically heal.
07:13:56 MidJag: I guess that makes sense
07:15:33 Devastator: I can make basically as many as I want.
07:21:41 Devastator: I mean, that's 40 scrolls through those charging scrolls.
07:23:37 Devastator: I think that's like 8 points of int from it.
07:23:47 Devastator: hrm, should pick up that full iron helm.
07:24:01 Devastator: it'd upgrade better than a dragonhide helmet.
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10:59:21 syv: I haven't watched any of Magia Record.
11:00:06 syv: And yeah, I expect it to be bad. It's based on the Magia Record gacha game, which is a very bad sign, and judging from the opening plot blurb thing, it's gonna diverge from PM3.
11:00:31 syv: Talks about a magic city where MGs can escape the whole "suffering is inevitable" deal they get.
11:01:39 syv: Still, I'll probably watch it, because it's still made by Shaft (so it'll look cool regardless of the plot quality), and because it might still have good concepts. I'm theoretically running a PM3-based game, after all.
11:02:28 syv: I'm just waiting for the entire show to finish airing, because I hate waiting. I'm also not eager to listen to it in Jap, but oh well, I don't want to wait for a dub.
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13:44:23 syv: Got anything happening today?
13:50:36 syv: Do you have an interest in watching Magia Record when it finishes airing?
13:50:51 syv: I know
MJ's said he's curious, and would watch if invited.
13:52:43 er: I might rather watch something *good*, but I suppose I'd attend a group-watch.
13:53:39 syv: Well, apparently
Paris is gonna watch it, so we could just interrogate *him* about its quality~
13:55:21 syv: Also why is Sophia not grabbing any guns.
13:56:02 er: Because maybe the real gun was the friends we made along the way.
13:57:31 syv: Sophia is the only one whose soul is represented by a firearm, and we both know this.
13:57:34 er: You want me to? I forgot what all I have.
13:57:56 syv: Like half a trunk's worth.
13:58:31 syv: Seven semiauto pistols, 17 AKs, one semiauto shotgun, one revolver.
13:58:49 syv: Wait no, this one's modified. One auto shotgun.
14:00:11 er: I wonder if Sophia could even use an automatic shotgun without getting knocked over by recoil.
14:04:18 er: Well, cly should take an ak and toss it to tooru.
14:09:53 er: Is ammo a game mechanic here?
14:10:35 syv: Yes, I've written down the number of magazines Sophia has, along with how many are loaded, and to what extents.
14:10:50 syv: Also the types of ammo, and the ammo boxes she has.
14:12:54 er: Do I even have more revolver rounds?
14:19:38 er: Suppose I should load a backpack with an ak and a couple pistols, then.
14:20:08 syv: Make sure you boldtext it.
14:25:46 syv: Dubs was complaining awhile ago about Naturegirl writing extremely short and bland actions that barely even work as an action.
14:30:47 syv: Nothing more, really. It just helps to have more specificity; the less I have to interpret and add to get a sensible narrative, the easier it is for me, and the more likely I'll do it sooner.
14:31:09 syv: Like... Chev's action, or
Paris' series of actions.
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22:32:56 parisbre56: to answer your question from yesterday
Piecewise, there's not much difference between the director's cut and the original re: zero, at least not in what I've seen so far beyond some minor visual improvements/alterations
22:33:07 parisbre56: but it's a good excuse to re watch it
22:34:09 parisbre56: and there's supposedly a season two this year, so it will be a nice reminder
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22:43:43 piecewise: I downloaded the made in abyss movies for that reason
22:43:59 piecewise: the ones that have come out are just recaps but I want to see how they do it
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22:50:25 parisbre56: made in abyss looks fun, I need to watch that sometime
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