00:55:51 Devastator: so.. zavi going to convert the pile?
00:56:06 Devastator: gonna ask Ekrov if that's safe, y'know.
00:57:06 Devastator: looks like someone agrees with me.
00:59:56 Devastator: I'm.. not inclined to let that happen after Ekrov went three-eyed and sideways with 300 mana.
01:00:02 Devastator: I mean, the pile might have 50,000.
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01:01:20 Devastator: I'll go say it in-thread.
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01:05:39 Devastator: If you're in that much of a hurry, I could jsut give you a barrel and send you off. Don't need to stay around.
01:08:32 Devastator: was planning on going off and selling stuff, so you can go with like right now if you want.
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01:15:14 Devastator: srs, I'm up for converting a lot of mana, giving it to Ekrov, and sending you off. Just gotta ask if you'll lie and say we only found a much smaller amount of magicoal.
01:19:05 Devastator: just let her know Zavi wants to get out fast, and I'll give orders to get stuff together today so Zavi can leave.
01:21:13 Devastator: The flow of time is convoluted in this land. By which I mean it's going too damn slowly
01:34:09 Piecewise_: I'll just post once a month~
01:34:55 Devastator: so carrying around too much mana for too long does things?
02:15:32 Piecewise_: Its never really been an issue till now
02:17:44 Devastator: well, most saeko ever had was 270-ish.
02:17:47 Devastator: but most of that got spent.
02:18:09 Piecewise_: yeah, its End reliant
02:18:31 Piecewise_: you, mr. Endy boots, have a bit of an advantage
02:19:36 Devastator: Ekrov had d4 at char creation, IIRC.
02:20:29 Devastator: ugh, I don't want to risk making a hole in the world, dammit.
02:22:43 Devastator: I mean, if 1300 is elephant through a straw, what's 50k?
02:23:05 Devastator: or god knows how much.
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02:32:56 ER: time was moving too damn slowly in real life
02:33:57 Piecewise_: Have you tried cocaine?
02:34:34 ER: also no, that's additive and redundant with caffiene~
02:37:14 ER: I'm absolutely willing to be patient in Cabal :P
02:37:42 Devastator: because, no offense, I still think trying to drain big pile is boomy.
02:37:49 Devastator: esp since I think Ekrov will do the same thing.
02:38:06 Devastator: could crush some magicoal or try to drain some thaum instead.
02:40:33 Devastator: but happy to RP through it.
04:06:46 ER: this mystvale game is very... words words words
04:10:43 Devastator: I thought you were pro-words.
04:10:49 Devastator: with all that homestuck.
04:11:10 ER: with homestuck at least they're proofwritten >:V
04:11:43 ER: Some people use too many words but forget to do punctuation or to spell things right.
04:12:32 ER: and there's at least 10 players, and like half of them are escaped lunatics, drawn from who knows where
04:12:47 Devastator: need some more lunatics.
04:19:20 Devastator: yeah, always need fresh blood.
04:19:30 Devastator: and I'm an old guy, as you know.
04:20:10 ER: so you're a lich, and you survive off the blood of escaped lunatics?
04:21:22 ER: "the guilds and temples and adventurer parties and pets release which also has artifact heists and extensive historical villainy, with lots of new mostly evil magical stuff"
04:21:47 ER: well, DF feature releases are never small, are they?
04:21:57 Devastator: I like building forts..
04:22:05 Devastator: magic makes for less fort-building.
04:22:17 ER: go play gnomoria or something you nerd
04:32:12 ER: now NPCs caan get tired of your conversation with them and leave!
04:50:30 ER: oh uh, that's a lot of goblin pits
04:56:45 ER: I just watched a fortress get taken over, and the mountin biome around it slowly turn purple from demonic corruption.
04:57:06 ER: maybe I should stop the world here in the hopes of having people to play as :V
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05:01:17 ER: welp, goblin human or intelligent wilderness creature. :P
05:01:47 ER: and I suspect not many humans around from what I saw during wold gen.
05:02:14 ER: Maybe I just got all demon overlords with OP powers or something?
05:02:45 ER: I saw mountains get currupted into evil biome after a dwarf fort got conquered.
05:03:06 ER: welp, maybe I can make some human heros and go fight goblins then.
05:04:02 ER: oh, but it doesn't let you start as an evil civ member, so
05:04:32 ER: I guess there's a surviving civ that started as something else and has only goblins now. :V
05:11:19 ER: "The Demomonation of Burying is a religion whose adherents worship Sor Deadburied the Fated Bones, the human goddess of death and suicide."
05:14:51 ER: the only dwarven god I can choose is the god of chaos
05:15:37 ER: no wait, the other dwarven god is worshipped as part of a religion
05:28:25 ER: "warrior of donashode" as an intelligent wilderness creature
05:28:56 ER: who... broke out of its vault and started wandering the world?
05:35:53 ER: and I can buy donashode's creature leather
05:42:05 ER: horses are too expensive for my peasant to start with one
05:56:30 ER: You: How are the feeling right now?
05:56:53 ER: Olo (my party member): There's no room for mercy in this world.
06:21:41 Devastator: so what can my character do now? That ritual implied some things, but I'm not quite sure.
06:21:47 Devastator: I'm going to order to test stuff out next turn anyway.
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06:29:13 syv: Yeah, new release, I see. Awesome.
06:29:26 syv: I'll probably play it myself... next month.
06:29:33 ER: I'm a goblin, and I have a goblin friend and we're going to go kill the goblins
06:29:45 ER: everyone but the goblins are dead
06:29:53 Devastator: Apparently
ER wants to emulate me.
06:30:10 syv: That sounds like goblins, except for the oddity of the goblins actually being goblins and not elves.
06:31:00 ER: I think they might get a boost from their demon overlords being able to do MAGIC
06:32:39 syv: "(*) Romantic relationship changes (multiple lovers, affairs, children outside marriage, divorces, etc.) as well as other relationship changes and details (friendship/rival types, variables like trust, respect and loyalty)"
06:32:53 syv: This is actually one of the most notable changes to me.
06:33:10 syv: I've always felt sorry for dwarves with uber-monogamy.
06:33:50 ER: game won't be worth playing till my adventurer can FALL IN LOOOOOVE but it's a step in that vague direction~
06:34:29 syv: "The interaction examples are the most excited I've been for an update in... well, years, obviously. This is the best modding update since 2012." -Putnam
06:34:49 syv: I'll take his word for it, and considering who he is, that's super damn exciting.
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06:43:25 Devastator: I hate splitting the community, though.
06:45:52 syv: I suppose you must REALLY hate FG&RP, then.
06:48:47 Devastator: maybe a bit? But they bring in new people.
06:48:51 Devastator: I suppose so do mods.
06:53:10 syv: Yeah. A *lot* of people are brought in by the newbie targeted mods. I know in the past, it's been pretty common to hear newbies mentioning that they got started with the LNP, which is kinda a no-brainer really.
06:53:40 syv: Then there's also people having more retention with mods, because they extend the replayability of the game. More/different stories, as well.
06:54:38 ER: stupid goblins and their stupid trenches
06:54:47 ER: why do they even make these
06:54:48 syv: Masterwork fixes some severe bugs, and makes the game run faster, so that helps retention in some cases. Too many people swear by masterwork and consider the base game unplayable, and I don't think all of them would just be vanilla players of it didn't exist.
06:55:43 syv: And all-in-all, people playing mods *are still playing Dwarf Fortress*, and are still heavily involved with the DF forum segments, because stuff in 90% the same. People playing forum games, and other stuff in Finally? Well, look at my sig.
06:56:07 syv: "Oh, believe me, I tried to play Dwarf Fortress. I really respect it, but I eventually found making my own game was easier than properly learning to play "
06:56:30 syv: Plenty of people down in Finally who don't even know how to play.
06:57:09 syv:
ER, does it run at a functional framerate? I can't recall going into a goblin area and having the game actually be playable, ever since trenches were added.
07:27:21 ER: "verbally struggle against great horror after seeing Copnut Singlewatch die"
07:28:03 ER: You: Death... The horror consumes me!
07:29:12 ER: the five melee goblins who my freind was keeping busy while I ineffectually tried to slash their archer agree with me that death is horrifying, then come and murder me
07:30:16 ER: no wait, the archer told a joke and then shot me in the chest
07:31:32 ER: "...and the dwarf saw the sun and vomited on the spot!"
07:32:40 ER: pretty good, but I'm not sure if I should approve when they just shot me in the chest, and then I got stabbed in the left hand where I'd already gotten shot by a pike, which got stuck, and then someone bashed me in the leg with a warhammer
07:33:37 syv: Maybe if you laughed at the joke while the others were being all serious, you'd have made a new friend.
07:33:47 syv: It does seem like a good time to make a new friend.
07:33:51 ER: it gives me an option to do so
07:35:20 ER: instead I will just ask my god how she's feeling
07:36:17 syv: Well that's unusual. Saw Nahere posting in one of the mod threads, he's person I can only recall seeing way back in Perplexicon. 569 posts, joined Feb 11.
07:37:18 Devastator: before dubs but after me.
07:37:28 ER: it is funny to watch these goblins be terrifyed by the horrible wounds they inflict on me
07:37:39 Devastator: Yeah, that seems wrong for goblins.
07:38:12 ER: that seems wrong for anyone who ambushes me at full lethal, really
07:38:41 ER: oh wait, you press y to yield
07:38:57 ER: which isn't a conversation option for... some reason
07:39:13 syv: Thought Dubs has been around longer than that?
07:40:27 syv:
ER's the youngest forumer here, April 2012.
07:41:10 syv: Do the goblins give a fuck about you yielding?
07:41:28 syv: I'd expect them to basically say "Oh, cool, thanks for not defending yourself."
07:42:12 ER: yeah, they're actually walking away
07:42:29 ER: granted I'm... down a lung, bleeding to death, unable to stand or grasp
07:46:32 ER: they beat on me until I assumed a submissive posture, then walked away and let me crawl away where I hid behind a tree and slept until I got my breath back, then I was allowed to travel for a tile, then they ambushed me again and this time are no-quarter.
07:47:43 ER: that archer really loves to tell jokes in combat
07:48:40 ER: Long-Nose bowman (to crowded-teeth pikeman): So, the capuchin man and the bogeymen...
07:49:00 ER: Crowded-teeth pikeman: Death... This is truly horrifying.
07:49:43 Devastator: that sounds more like goblins.
07:49:51 Devastator: they let you live until you were truly defenceless.
07:50:36 ER: You take out the avovado wood carving knife.
07:52:48 syv: Why do you have a wooden knife?
07:53:14 ER: because it started me with one
07:53:25 syv: And you're a goblin? Weird.
07:53:51 ER: I wish that I could ask them to please kill me painlessly
08:06:46 ER: I said to my bro "hey what troubles are up" and he said "everything" so I decided to ask about the bone-chilling horror because that sounds like it needs to be dealt with and he said that nasty shit was going on in the foretress down south and I was like wow I didn't know there was a fortress there so I had him tell me where it was and we walked down there
08:08:35 ER: and a patrol of goblins met us and shot me in the hand and he died somehow fighting five goblins at once and then they tortured me for a while until they got bored so I crawled away and passed out and then tried to crawl all the way back home but they came back and I tried to stab the halber goblin in the chest with a wooden knife but he blocked it repeatedly and then effotlessly cut my head off.
08:11:56 syv: And not all that bad of one, really.
08:13:50 ER: I think bone-chilling horror just means "there's goblins over there" because they're horrible sociopaths with ethics which tell them to torture people for fun
08:14:14 ER: as opposed to us human-civ goblins, who are just horrible sociopaths
08:16:10 syv: You're a goblin in another civ, duh. You can't even start as a goblin civ goblin in base game, yeah. Duh.
08:16:22 ER: did I mention that this was a world in which it seemed that humans, dwarves, and elves are extinct?
08:16:34 syv: You did say only goblins were left.
08:16:55 ER: the options were goblin, human, and wilderness creature
08:17:00 syv: I had just assumed you meant "the goblin civs killed all the other civs, and somehow didn't get outcompeted by kidnapped elves"
08:17:01 ER: and humans were just outsiders.
08:17:54 syv: So half-and-half. Goblins killed everyone except humans, and humans got outcompeted by naturalized goblins.
08:18:13 ER: and I only got one civ choice and one starting site choice, though the Q screen seemed to show my civ group being based in a fortress to the north?
08:19:05 ER: many, many hamlets, towns, forts, retreats belonging to goblins
08:19:31 ER: and there was an option to play as an angel, I think, as a wilderness creature?
08:21:08 ER: maybe I should start up a warrior of donashode demigod and start murdering goblins?
08:21:46 ER: ...I suppose it's likely that humans, elves, and dwarves still exist, but can't be played because they're goblin civ members.
08:22:02 ER: Q screen did show dwarves as a thing I knew existed
08:22:56 Devastator: obv you need to fort mode that as an extinct civ at war with those gobbos.
08:23:29 ER: fort mode is like adv mode except you don't know what's going on and it takes too long to die
08:23:38 ER: and you can't murder anyone personally
08:25:13 syv: I think the warrior of Donashode may actually be a necromantic creation.
08:25:46 syv: Today mentioned in the FotF update that experimented people may escape, and in that case could maybe become playable.
08:25:55 ER: but I also saw donashode's creature leather
08:25:59 syv: So... try it! See if you get to be Frankenstein.
08:27:29 syv: Wouldn't surprise me if experiments have leather, lotsa weird critters have their mats added on release, because Toady whoopses. Though, I guess if it's a playable, it should be sapient, and sapients don't generally have that happen? And angels do, or did, I guess.
08:28:16 ER: no, warror of and creature are different
08:28:23 syv: ...Maybe "Donashode" isn't *just* the warrior. Maybe the Necromancer or their civ is Donashode, so--yep.
08:28:32 ER: but both presumably made by the same god / demon / necromancer
08:29:24 ER: I'm assuming that warrior is sentient which is why you can play it and creature isn't which is why human civ uses its leather
08:32:46 syv: It's very notable that the human civ uses it. If it's a creation of necros/gods, why do *they* have them?
08:33:28 ER: because in this dark and gritty world where everyone's green you have to use what you can get?
08:33:36 syv: Hmm. In modding thread, they were talking about some new interactions added. There's a god blessing that gifts you with a random pet, maybe that's the route. Gods gifting histfigs with special god-made animals.
08:34:03 ER: like, you get a procgen pet?
08:34:32 syv: You get a pet randomly selected from all creatures in a certain class.
08:34:36 syv: And there's procgen creatures.
08:35:01 syv: So presumably it could select them, and then they'd be part of that civ and be used.
08:35:24 ER: also it's kinda funny, this world is mostly a big island in the west, which is swarming with goblins
08:35:30 syv: Might also mean that it *is* a necro's abomination, and a god just randomly selected the necro abomination as the pet.
08:35:48 ER: there's a couple more smaller islands to the east, and NONE of them have any civs
08:35:52 syv: I'm sure we'll get answers in the coming weeks, as people poke around.
08:36:34 ER: so I think all the civs just started surrounded by a bunch of goblin civs in a tight space and werre overwhelmed
08:37:13 ER: is only botes were in the game, maybe they would have sailed away to freedom
08:38:30 syv: Someday, we'll have naval wars in DF.
08:39:01 ER: alright, warrior of donashode here we go
08:39:43 ER: "You emerged from the wilds and came to be an animal dissector"
08:39:55 ER: if this is an abomination that's perfect
08:40:36 syv: Anything interesting in your description?
08:40:48 ER: our one starting fortress is Mellowbasic and it's controlled by The Lush League
08:41:05 ER: I don't think it lets you look at your creature description until you start
08:41:49 syv: Ah, well, when you get there.
08:43:04 ER: hmm, appearance tab doesn't show anything
08:43:54 ER: ah, these creatures can apparently be male or female, unless that's just the character sheet interface
08:44:20 syv: Nah, you can be genderless.
08:44:39 syv: If the creature type is genderless.
08:44:55 ER: she dreams of mastering a skill
08:45:29 ER: damn that starts you with a lot of equipment points
08:45:43 ER: I could take a bunch of war elephants ot something
08:45:58 ER: ...or maybe donoshode's creatures? lemmie check
08:47:27 syv: What's the largest carnivore available?
08:47:47 syv: You are obligated to start with a breeding pair, use them as mounts, and them build a cavalry army.
08:48:01 ER: I have 1255 points and they cost 150
08:48:18 ER: with my peasants I couldn't afford horses
08:48:26 syv: Damn. How much for masterwork equipment?
08:49:24 ER: huh, not enough points to go past exceptional
08:49:50 ER: 1462 points overall at demigod
08:49:54 syv: Odd. I'd expect a demigod to at least be able to start with a masterwork weapon.
08:50:54 ER: actually, that was with a bronze 2handed sword, let me check with somethign cheaper
08:51:19 ER: ah, can go up to masterful with a copper whip
08:52:25 syv: Uh. Whips were fixed, right?
08:52:27 ER: hmm, so material matters a lot
08:53:01 syv: And yeah, low quality streel is better than high quality iron.
08:53:48 ER: Copnut had a wellcrafted silver whip and adequate lasher and didn't beat five trained goblins. :P
08:54:19 syv: The whip bug hasn't been marked as fixed, and I didn't see any comments about whips in the release notes.
08:54:34 ER: whips are the cheapest weapons in the same material. because they weight less I guess
08:54:36 syv: They're powerful, but he *was* outnumbered five-to-one.
08:55:59 ER: ah, I think the final push from exceptional to masterful costs a lot more
08:56:12 ER: is masterful the same as masterwork, actually?
08:57:15 ER: two humped camels cost more than black bears
08:57:41 syv: Black bears are pretty small.
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08:59:02 ER: which makes grizzlies cost the same as elephants. :P
08:59:27 ER: war training doubles the cost, so 500 for war elephant/grizzly
08:59:50 ER: black bears can't be trained but grizzlies can?
09:00:21 Devastator: I have no idea if that's true or not.
09:00:25 Devastator: and I should, dammit.
09:02:15 ER: ...can I ride bears? what designates animals as ridable?
09:02:40 syv: Bear cubs are adorable! Like weird lumpy puppies.
09:03:05 ER: that's my war grizzly's name
09:03:23 ER: I didn't custom it, just hit random a few times
09:04:18 syv: Yes, black bears are trainable IRL
09:05:47 ER: breastplate: costs less than a robe
09:05:59 ER: because robes are heavy and cover a lot, I assume?
09:07:02 ER: it's kind of annoying that looking at equipment lists leather from every possible animal for every possible garment which could be made of leather with them all costing the same and having the same properties
09:07:07 syv: Huh. Even despite the breastplate being metal, and the robe cloth?
09:07:48 syv: Robes are good though, IIRC you can layer three on top of normal armor and it provides a good boost in actual protection.
09:08:00 Devastator: because both are 10 unit finished goods?
09:08:11 ER: leather or plant fiber robes cost 33 while copper breastplate costs 30
09:08:14 Devastator: that effect, while it exists, is overrated,
syv.
09:08:29 ER: copper mail costs 40 which beats it but not by a large amount
09:08:38 ER: better metal costs more I assume
09:08:42 syv: And yes, grizzlies are ridable. Sometimes siegers will come with them as mounts.
09:08:56 Devastator: doesn't copper have only a 2x value modifier?
09:09:01 ER: it doesn't show you what you can't afford and all my points are in zwei and chomper right now
09:09:01 syv: Mail covers a lot more than breastplate.
09:09:40 ER: should our generated demigod, whatever she is, wear a shirt?
09:10:38 syv: Demigods are immune to chafing.
09:11:06 ER: I wonder if these cost more because I have a larger body size
09:12:17 ER: maybe they just refuse to put the abomination in a pretty dress
09:13:51 ER: ah, I could buy adder venom?
09:14:16 ER: wait, will I die of thirst because i didn't get a waterskin or can you drink from water in the world?
09:14:47 Devastator: and I don't believe size matters for price.
09:16:40 ER: what will extracts and alchohol come in if i don't start with a container for them? :thinking:
09:16:49 syv: You can drink from water in the world.
09:17:02 syv: You can drink water coverings off your limbs, in fact.
09:17:28 syv: I imagine they'll get a free container, like barrels in fort mode.
09:18:01 syv: Like the old strat of starting with twenty different hunks of different meat, each of which costs 2, so you get twenty different expensive barrels.
09:18:27 Devastator: who gets a free container?
09:18:34 Devastator: IIRC, adventurers used to get free containers.
09:18:45 ER: you can start with a profession, which gives you starting skill in some things
09:18:55 ER: which you can then raise with your skill points
09:19:10 ER: which means it's possible to get legendary starting skill
09:19:18 ER: only in things which adv mode doesn't use
09:19:41 ER: you get to pick your equpment with points buy now,
Dev
09:20:00 ER: I deleted everything it started me with for a exceptional greatsword
09:21:37 ER: Hok Chastepalm, the Warrior or Donashode animal dissector
09:22:08 ER: she has superior toughness and social awareness, and high strength!
09:22:50 ER: she is a professional swordsman, adequate in "a few" things, a novice dancer, and a master animal dissector
09:23:14 ER: the game doesn't know how to describe her appearence!
09:24:17 ER: she believes that mastery of a skills is one of the highest pursuits, and presumably realized that animal dissescting isn't a good skill to master and started studying the blade instead
09:24:37 Devastator: don't you piss off Morul.
09:26:33 ER: she has an exceptional brove two-handed sword, a cotten skirt, a copper mail shirt, a single unit of whip wine, and nothing else in this world except for her two best freinds; Cikul Speakpocket the crow and Apap Munchedembrace the war grizzly.
09:27:00 Devastator: Chastefinger would be better, hur hur hur.
09:27:47 syv: Can you have Cikul ride you while you ride Apap?
09:27:50 ER: her adventure begins, in the human-ish fortress of mellowbasic, under the control of The Lush League.
09:29:22 ER: You've finally got your equpment together, such as it is. Now it's the time for action and adventure! In the rush of excitement, you've forgotten where you were going to go. Perhaps some on your freinds here can remind you.
09:32:23 ER: A feathered humanoid. It has a long, swinging trunk. Its eyes glow golden yellow. Its black feathers are long and narrow. This night creature was first created by the human necromancer Erhlal Spiralscar of Blushedlakes after horrible experiments on the goblin Stozu Helltundras in Coloredchestnut in the year 64.
09:32:42 ER: so I guess... we're an ex-goblin bird lady?
09:33:06 Devastator: nah, you're a zombie.
09:33:17 ER: "One must always be loyal to their cause and the ones they serve."
09:33:37 syv: Are people hostile to you? If not, yeah, alive.
09:33:54 ER: if I were a zombie I would be a leutenant, which get cool magical powers
09:34:32 syv: Hmm. So, a goblin with feathers, glowing eyes, and an elephant trunk, basically.
09:35:08 syv: Suitable that you have a pet crow, I suppose.
09:35:12 ER: I don't think I can see my size directly but my walking speed is 1.111
09:36:01 ER: ah, yup, the crow is on my head
09:37:07 ER: huh, it started me with 2 silver coins. I don't have a pouch, so they're "hauled"
09:37:08 syv: The crow *starts* on your head? That's adorable!
09:37:21 ER: and my wine is in my right hand, alon with my sword
09:37:43 syv: Yeah. That also happens if you play an adventurer with no grasps or anything, your equipment will all just be hauled.
09:39:02 Devastator: It's also imaginary.
09:40:01 ER: maybe I need a bag to use the bear as a pach animal?
09:40:12 ER: that would make sense, inconvenient as it is
09:42:01 syv: "Cat" in dwarvish is "kun".
09:42:16 syv: So "Urist-kun" is "Dagger-cat"
09:45:26 ER: this turky leather bag doesn't have an owner listed, maybe I just yoink it :D
09:47:56 Devastator: Urist is dagger, eh?
09:47:57 ER: are bears marked as mounts but not as pack animals? :(
09:50:01 ER: yes, I am a feathered abomination riding a bear, with a crow riding on my head
09:50:09 syv: That might be it,
ER. They're exotic mounts, and come in sieges, but never with caravans.
09:50:48 ER: I can "borrow" bags from the fortress but they're not wearable
09:51:06 syv: Hmm. You know, there's nothing stopping me from adding [PACK_ANIMAL] to cat raws.
09:51:11 syv: I'll have to do this sometime.
09:51:27 syv: I wonder if it would have interactions with their vermin hunting.
09:51:35 ER: it probably calculates how much they can carry, right?
09:52:30 ER: oh yeah, I forgot there's a riding skill
09:52:40 ER: maybe should have taken profficent in that
09:53:14 syv: Do donkeys have enough strength to carry elephants?
09:53:24 syv: Because Elves bring elephants on donkeys.
09:54:05 syv: It shouldn't matter for the other races, because wagons have their own weight limit and speed and whatnot, they're just guided by the pack animals.
09:54:55 Devastator: yes, I believe anyone can still carry anything.
09:55:11 ER: I leave the fort and see an astrisk. I go over to it to see what it is. Doesn't drop me out of traveling, so I drop out manually.
09:55:52 ER: I'm standing next to some goblin hammerman. He's not marked as hostile so I speak to him, his attitude to me is "neutral"
09:56:05 ER: my mount immediately attacks
09:56:23 ER: actually, maybe I just didn't check if hostile?
09:56:44 ER: it doesn't say if you hover over them with k, i think, only with l?
09:57:45 ER: yeah, I think he was just a hostile and my bear is smarter than me though
09:58:13 ER: knocked him over twice and bit both his arms in the time it took me to say "hello there"
09:59:30 syv: "How are you doing?" "AAAAHHHH!" "Yeah, I figured."
09:59:46 ER: okay, I think a demigod abomination with a high quality bronze weapon riding a warbear might be op
10:01:54 ER: hmm, I guess you could do more slow attacks while mounted, because your mount keeps charging and making sure you're in range while you're winding up
10:04:38 syv: Hmm. Your bird is riding you while you're riding a bear. I wonder if this means that if you made horses playable, you could play a horse that's ridden by another horse, and then mount a third horse.
10:05:05 ER: the bird seems to be treated as an item currently?
10:07:32 ER: no, why would i throw bribfrend!? D:
10:08:26 syv: I want to know what happens if you throw a living creature at somebody and get it stuck inside.
10:08:39 syv: What if the creature is part of an enemy faction to the target?
10:09:11 syv: Do they pull the creature out? What do they do to it? Do they ignore it until it's removed by some other method, and then attack it?
10:09:54 syv: I don't *think* that would result in any damage to the bird, unless it failed to get stuck inside.
10:10:23 syv: Also, I kinda want to know what happens if you throw the bird upward. Does it transfer back to being a creature and just start flying?
10:11:39 Devastator: Can you smash a glass display case with the bird?
10:11:40 ER: You slash the long-nose goblin hammer in the head from the side with your bronze two-handed sword and the injured part is cloven asunder!
10:12:12 ER: I think creatures as projectiles usually can't start flying until they hit something, so that would hurt
10:12:58 Devastator: "Now go to Cove and pick up Jaana, who for some reason is wandering around Cove late at night with a dagger in one hand and a live goshawk, in a bag, in the other. Take the hawk out of the bag and wield the bird yourself."
10:13:48 Devastator: I don't know, it might be possible to do that and have it be immune to damage due to having the wrong data types.
10:14:02 ER: what was it to put away weapon?
10:15:20 syv: Yeah, if the bird stays an object, I'm pretty sure it'll just be immune to most kinds of damage while an object.
10:15:39 ER: well, we just murdered a random goblin.
10:15:54 syv: Goblins aren't real people, so it's fine.
10:16:35 ER: the only real people is the beefy humanoid crows with trunks
10:20:21 ER: wonder if you can divination at monastaries
10:20:35 ER: I don't think my character knows about any temples
10:20:59 Devastator: hey
ER, what's your thoughts on the profession of "Underground Arena Gladiator."
10:21:29 ER: not as cool as doctor dragon tho
10:22:10 Devastator: well, draggy can be doctor.
10:22:16 Devastator: should have done the arena thing there.
10:22:27 Devastator: can do fighter, doctor, and garbage disposal.
10:22:38 ER: I check my bear and he's just covered in blood
10:23:03 ER: do you trust the medic who is also one of the monsters? ;P
10:23:22 Devastator: he only eats people who die.
10:24:12 ER: hmm, I guess I can't see how tired my mount is.
10:24:37 syv: You know, I think that's true of the vast majority of things that eat people,
Dev.
10:24:52 Devastator: of course it's true, that's why I said it.
10:24:56 syv: Even the ones that kill people.
10:25:18 Devastator: "Use the goshawk to smash down the door (but how?!?) and walk inside."
10:25:28 ER: hmm, I suppose this town is just abandoned?
10:26:05 ER: how does site claiming work? never really done it.
10:26:19 ER: can I do... something to help reclaim this town?
10:27:17 ER: the starting fort is descibed as having "a few dozen inhabitants at most", so maybe winning this war isn't super feasable. :V
10:27:31 ER: unless the "capital" is way better off
10:27:51 syv: Winning is super feasible.
10:28:04 syv: Just personally kill every single enemy soldier yourself.
10:28:46 ER: hmm, there are goblins here
10:29:24 syv: I guess you can't heal them, so... dance with them?
10:29:36 ER: left hand broken and cut open, neck bruised
10:31:36 ER: oh, they were fighting a shadow ogress
10:31:55 ER: and I think they're freinds, actually?
10:35:05 ER: I say to the commander, "hello, I'm Hok", and the commander says "yo abomination" while a bowman demands I identify myself.
10:35:34 ER: Having just introduced myself to the commander, I gladly comply, saying "hey, I'm-"
10:37:18 ER: wait, and then the bowman says stop this pointless violence?
10:38:33 ER: oh, I guess when you jump while mounted, you dismount?
10:38:57 ER: well, that just put my bear in the way of arrows!
10:39:37 ER: have people always joked this much in combat?
10:44:18 Devastator: there were no jokes at all originally.
10:44:22 Devastator: but probably, yeah.
10:53:27 Devastator: guys sparring gained social skills a lot, at least since .40d
10:57:01 ER: She feels affection after intereacting with a pet.
10:57:21 ER: She doesn't feel anything after experiencing trauma.
10:57:42 ER: ...then she's horrified by watching three goblins die, for some reason
10:59:30 ER: The Lamented is unironically a super metal name for a goddess of torture and misery.
11:00:14 ER: probably just The followed by a word for bad stuff, but it tells a story by itself
11:00:38 ER: who needs mythgen in... like 5 years?
11:00:44 ER: we can just imagine the myths!
11:00:46 syv: That's how DF works in general.
11:01:08 ER: also the only male human god is the god of consolation.
11:01:17 syv: Vagaries that really don't say anything in themselves, but imply and hint towards stuff that your mind fills in.
11:03:35 ER: just wandering around the field outside the fortress, "you have found a lair"
11:05:08 syv: Oh, if there's a werebeast epidemic, that'll be very very common. Look around a bit more--if there's more lairs in the tiles adjacent, then they're all werebeasts.
11:08:44 ER: everything just went dark except for Hok, glowing yellow eyes
11:09:52 ER: I can't find the entrance though...
11:10:57 ER: in a random ass corner, of course!
11:12:27 syv: Werebeast goblin? Might be worth leaving him alive so you can come back and get bit during the full moon.
11:12:32 ER: Is there anything in particular you have to do with 2-handed weapons other than not have something in your other hand?
11:13:02 syv: If you're using both hands, it'll say "Multigrasp" in the inventory screen.
11:13:05 ER: oh well, I've killed those. :)
11:13:44 ER: doesn't say multigrasp though?
11:14:15 syv: I bet you're too large, so a twohander for normal people is just a onehander for you.
11:14:34 syv: Dwarves will multigrasp human longswords, while humans onehand them.
11:14:41 ER: but wouldn't it give me starting equipment sized for my creature?
11:14:55 syv: No. Weapons are sized purely based off raws.
11:15:20 ER: huh, is that only for clothing?
11:19:31 ER: It's so wierd how they spend most of their time as some naked person in a cave, doing nothing
11:19:48 ER: and not hostile and don't respond to being called a night creature
11:38:24 ER: welp, this turkey leather bag seems to be overflowing with loot now!
12:18:32 ER: it immediately bit a limb off my bear D:
12:18:57 syv: The only solution is a werebeast
12:19:10 syv: ...Bears can't become werebeasts, can they?
12:20:57 ER: also I'm not sure if my bronze zwei is up to the task of killing something with scales as literally thick as this
12:20:57 syv: Heh. Add [CAN_LEARN] to grizzly raws, have the bear get bitten by a werebear, then remove the tag. Maybe it'll keep the syndrome~
12:22:46 ER: yeah, some internal damage with heavy stabs
12:24:11 ER: it's messed up that heavy attack isn't on h :P
12:24:36 ER: finally, stabbed it in the brain
12:25:03 ER: and what have I gained from this? uh, mostly getting it on my kill list.
12:26:46 ER: You eat the giant alligator meat.
12:27:13 ER: somehow, my actual character hasn't gotten hit once
12:28:22 ER: Here we have you by much gore.
12:30:06 ER: ah, even just carrying the skull slows me down a lot
12:37:08 syv: I think you need an axe to do that, though.
13:01:06 syv: Kazgame STILL hasn't updated, gah
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