00:20:00 syv: Huh. The lunatic only has nine posts, exclusively in Cabal. So he joined specifically, and exclusively, for Cabal.
00:20:11 syv: This guy just gets weirder and weirder.
00:44:17 ER: it is easier to capitalize the start of sentances on my phone than to not.
00:51:09 ER: if I start a sentence with a lowercase from my phone, I'm putting in effort to shitpost
00:51:39 syv: He doesn't even capitalize sentence beginnings more often than he capitalizes Important words.
00:51:48 syv: And yet he does both... sometimes.
00:51:56 syv: It is really quite confusing.
00:52:53 syv: He knows what a Tokamak is, and mentions it in a post that begins with "k nice."
00:53:30 syv: And yet a troll that is only in Cabal.
00:53:33 ER: Bay12 seems to have a few persistant bandodgers
00:54:05 ER: though, don't think anyone in cabal has been banned. Nobody in FG&RP since GWG
00:55:04 syv: Hmm, he never uses apostrophes in contractions, but did use them to say 'random'.
00:56:58 syv: This is easier than writing PS.
00:57:55 ER: we should fill your life with things harder than that
00:58:02 syv: Maybe if I analyze the letter frequency of his posts, and see how it diverges from English's frequencies, I'll suddenly be able to write.
01:02:18 syv: He uses N and I notably more often than expected, and E somewhat less commonly, though E is still his most frequent letter. He underuses H and D somewhat.
02:35:40 syv: Implications and meanings and shit
02:36:14 syv: I cannot not think about them but they huuurt
02:36:51 ER: tell me abou it so that I can feel half the pain for you~
02:38:19 syv: I had the clever idea that since my primary issue was describing something that I have no mental ability to visualize or understand, and I had the very strong feeling that what I was *trying* to describe was inherently wrong, I should just sidestep the issue by not describing it.
02:38:33 syv: Namely by inflicting blindness on the PoV character.
02:39:09 ER: I just use lots of adjectives or try to interface screw
02:39:18 ER: not sure if I'm good at it but it's fun
02:39:32 syv: But this has the problem of said blindness being a thing that happens, which has IMPLICATIONS, and that means now there's stuff that I'm saying and I don't know if it's a bad idea to say
02:39:46 ER: or like, metaphors which are evocative without making sense
02:40:13 syv: There's a ton of metaphores already, and they make too much sense! This is the problem.
02:41:01 ER: What you're looking at is not meaningfully quantified by sight, so your eyes take it a vacation.
02:41:16 syv: Hopefully KM just quite and I can retcon into an easiee plot.
02:42:52 Devastator: Nah, guy's an American, and somwhere between ~16 and 22.
02:43:18 Devastator: not enough info for word choice analysis.
02:43:43 syv: I wasn't analyzing his word choices, I was analyzing his letter frequencies.
02:43:52 syv: You know, like how e is the most common letter.
02:43:54 Devastator: Word choice is a better signature.
02:44:20 syv: You seem to be thinking I was attempting to do something that resembles usefulness.
02:44:34 syv: If so, you are sorely mistaken.
02:44:38 ER: yeah,
syv would never do that
02:45:47 Devastator: Personally, if he is a troll I'd guess he's a GWG.
02:46:09 Devastator: but I've seen randos with odd choices of topics and such before.
02:46:33 ER: we can say GWG is an uh, accidental troll
02:46:35 Devastator: ..but I got him off-balance, so he isn't an actual troll.
02:46:53 Devastator: People who are really trolling never get off-balance.
02:47:25 Devastator: I think he's just an escaped lunatic from 4chan.
02:47:39 syv: He is indeed a very odd troll if he's a troll.
02:47:52 syv: But he's very odd regardless.
02:48:09 Devastator: no, maybe not an american.
02:48:18 Devastator: He's reminding me of this polish guy I knew once.
02:48:30 Devastator: He could barely write but was quite smart.
02:48:57 Devastator: Could be something like that.
02:50:29 Devastator: I don't think he is that guy, he was smart and humble and a great guy, but some of the writing sounded similar.
02:51:32 syv: Yeah, that was something I was about to ask. I don't think he's american. English second language is the best explanation, I think. Some odd stuff like use of colloquialism, but that seems explainable. If he actually does know the stuff he's talking about and is just bad at translating the concepts over, that would explain some of the oddness.
02:52:21 syv: Maybe someone who's decent at spoken english and just sucks at written, though to my understanding that's backward from typical...
02:52:28 Devastator: But could also be a semi-literate first language speaker.
02:52:37 Devastator: lots of people don't know how to write.
02:53:09 Devastator: don't know how to tell.
02:53:13 syv: It seems deeply unusual that he'd be only semi-literate but know what a Tokamak is.
02:53:17 Devastator: well, we could ask about geography.
02:53:32 Devastator: Does he know what a tokamak is?
02:54:05 syv: He brought one up, and it does seem sufficiently random that he wasn't just naming a smart person thing.
02:54:46 Devastator: well, I'll go with yours then,
syv.
02:55:53 Devastator: Oy, you got yourself trolled,
syv.
02:55:54 syv: Disagrees with everything, entirely, and responds with stuff that's easy to correct, to lure out an argument.
02:58:00 Devastator: (And yeah, jumping into the insults are subjective bit is a huge troll sign. Just report and go on.)
02:58:24 syv: Nah, I'm not reporting him, he's amusing.
02:58:48 syv: Though having an answer does cut a lot of the amusement, admittedly.
02:58:53 ER: also doesn't care about literally anything
02:59:00 Devastator: pfft, yeah he does.
02:59:15 ER: but he certainly wouldn't admit it
02:59:41 syv: I would like to see how he handles playing the game, since he's not really getting bites any more.
03:00:15 syv: Is he just gonna quit? Move to another game? Target the rest of the players?
03:02:14 Devastator: I'll take care of things if he sticks around.
03:02:54 syv: Big man
Dev will... take care of him. >:|
03:05:50 Devastator: oh come on, I've taken care of paid russian trolls before.
03:06:14 ER: yes yes, "take care" of them
03:06:21 syv: What does that even entail?
03:06:46 Devastator: Doing very little except when it's important.
03:07:35 Devastator: I do nothing. If it runs to about four or five posts I tell the two of you to break it up.
03:07:41 Devastator: but I do so my way.
03:11:32 syv: (
Devastator) oh come on, I've [said "please go away?" to] paid russian trolls before.
03:17:00 Devastator: Generally with those you explain the techniques being used in the rant posts or call them out directly for not reading stuff.
03:17:47 syv: Not as 2mystery4us, said that way.
03:18:20 ER:
Dev needs to be mysterious and not explain simple things to fuel his troll cell
03:18:24 syv: I think I'd rather just troll him back if he starts actually getting bites.
03:18:32 ER: so that he can battle trolls on an equal level
03:18:47 Devastator: with non-paid trolls it's a bit different.
03:19:06 Devastator: you go with lines of reasoning that nobody has ever used before.
03:19:10 syv: But see, that's what *I* do. My first instinct was to counter troll him, but
Dev,
Dev was being all nicey nicey teachy teachy.
03:19:32 Devastator: You gotta be nicey and teachy with the russians. The audience there is everyone else.
03:19:54 syv: Hell, I only made the polite "maybe your country's education system just failed you" assumption because of
Dev's influence.
03:24:18 syv: I think with this guy I want to give counter arguments that are even more substantial misunderstandings of physics. If he's giving flawed physics explanations *deliberately* to spark response, I'd like to see what he does when countered with clearly incorrect explanations.
03:35:35 ER: mm,
syv did you get the thing I sent today on discord?
03:36:17 syv: Apparently I did, but I didn't notice it.
03:37:08 ER: ah, I thought you were intentionally ignoring my non-FMD thoughts. ;P
04:28:51 Devastator: I'll get Trent Hawkins.
04:35:11 syv: I hope
Paris is still interested.
04:43:04 ER: yeah, pretty sure we're all still interested :P
04:44:16 ER: I still have... three days for my initial estitmate!
04:44:38 Devastator: I think I talked with Chev a couple months back.
04:44:41 Devastator: seemed interested then.
04:45:33 syv: Before the longest hiatus yet.
04:46:10 syv:
ER, I really really really think you should run a PM game before posting the thread, and IIRC you said you'd post the thread at that deadline.
04:46:49 syv: So... uh... if you're holding yourself to a deadline, make it be "start the PM testgame by the new year", not "post the game by the new year"
04:47:06 Devastator: you can put a testgame in a thread.
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16:10:26 parisbre56: sure
syv, I'm still interested
16:12:38 parisbre56: just know I'll have to have to do mandatory military service sometime this year, so I might be unavailable for some time
16:12:55 parisbre56: hopefully just a couple of months
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