00:17:44 Devastator: reading more rothfuss-related reviews. There really does seem to be a distinction between people who have figured out the plot and those who have not. ;-p
00:21:41 Devastator: the ones who have figured it out can't sum up their love for it, and the ones who haven't like it, but are struggling with understanding why people would love it.
00:23:07 Devastator: rather than just like the good bits, whatever those happen to be for that person.
00:23:51 Devastator: Oh man, and this guy hit something that I missed.
00:24:00 Devastator: I swear, everyone does that.
00:24:34 Devastator: and doesn't like it, but that's a key point.
01:35:49 Devastator: how are you today,
ER?
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02:32:34 Devastator: wonder if
MJ will be around.
02:33:20 Devastator: Yeah, gotta line up next movie.
02:33:25 Devastator: thanks for kicking us to watch T2.
02:34:22 ER: I wanted to watch apocalypse now... ;P
02:34:53 Devastator: well, we'll get a shot.
02:36:26 Devastator: wonder what kinda creature we're looking at in Cabal.
02:36:45 Devastator: Zavi okay with not trying to hunt it if it just passes us by?
02:37:54 Devastator: if it does attack us, Saeko will prolly go for a debuff.
02:40:23 Devastator: how does Zavi fight?
02:41:23 ER: either I've instakilled things with magic or got beaten by like a dozen people with poisoned ranged weapons...
02:41:40 Devastator: and yeah, poison's good.
02:42:02 Devastator: you care to cast poison resistance on Saeko for a buncha mana?
02:44:34 ER: permanant immunity to everything or what?
02:44:34 Devastator: maybe when we finish.
02:44:59 Devastator: mmm, depends on how good you feel about it. Maybe just like a +1 to all saves or something.
02:45:58 Devastator: but I'd pay for immunity if there's enough mana for it.
02:46:02 ER: can always buff End further~
02:46:13 Devastator: Yeah, but d12's gonna be a lot, and it's 70 mana to +4.
02:46:23 Devastator: I'd like that, but you know.
02:46:42 ER: because that's what I'd use to cast it
02:47:22 Devastator: yeah, that could stand to go up.
02:47:25 ER: making it my second best behind str
02:47:41 Devastator: trade? d12 to up your end for a successful d12 against poison?
02:48:06 Devastator: mmm, that might be a bad critfail. ;-p
02:48:10 Devastator: lets see how lucky I feel.
02:48:11 ER: "except recreational drugs", right ;P
02:48:28 Devastator: I'd be ok with an exception for alcohol.
02:49:13 ER: inb4 someone figures it out and poisons you with excessive alchohol
02:49:14 Devastator: in truth I think I'd also like another lighweight on her, so I can just be a flyer.
02:49:27 Devastator: eh, I'll live with that.
02:49:33 Devastator: it's possible, but gonna still be tough.
02:49:45 Devastator: screw riding something when you can just do it yourself.
02:52:44 ER: I have a baboon minion to do the flying for me ;P
02:52:53 Devastator: hmm, you know, that's something.
02:52:58 Devastator: reverse-explosion might be 'contain.'
02:53:05 ER: but having a lightweight on you is appropriate for a magical girl
02:53:06 Devastator: I wonder if you can just make mana batteries.
02:53:21 Devastator: plus there's no way I won't give her wings after this mission.
02:53:56 ER: ah, because we know that sticking wings on a magical girl is a great idea!
02:53:58 Devastator: hmm, that might be a mode to give enchantment resistance to my armour.
02:54:39 Devastator: Nah, I mean like I enlarge a gem or two.
02:54:43 Devastator: you make it 'contain mana'
02:54:54 Devastator: and then I wire it up into my clothing.
02:54:58 ER: neither of which are words I have ;P
02:55:00 Devastator: spell hits, gets sucked into the gem.
02:55:06 Devastator: well, reverse-explode might be contain.
02:55:31 Devastator: 'magic' or 'fire' or 'lightning' or something might be better.
02:55:38 Devastator: suck into works too.
02:55:57 ER: also probably doesn't work if I just toss an explosion in your face or something~
02:56:26 ER: absorbing mana energy isn't useful when the mana energy is converted into heat energy!
02:56:36 Devastator: maybe get you to do explosion resistance, too.
02:56:41 Devastator: that's probably handy. ;-p
02:57:02 Devastator: I do want to see if reverse-explode can do that.
02:57:06 Devastator: but yeah, maybe that's not the right way.
02:58:13 Devastator: eh, poison would be better.
02:58:33 Devastator: stat-proofing gear..
02:58:56 Devastator: I'd probably want to hunt down people with each word in turn and bribe them up.
02:59:39 Devastator: could get expensive.
02:59:43 ER: make your clothing not fall apart in explosions because of
PW~
03:00:19 Devastator: hmm, you never tried explosion-proofing yourself, did you?
03:00:57 Devastator: gear might just be strong enough already, really.
03:01:02 Devastator: it might just be blunt damage or something.
03:06:01 ER: so far nothing's shot explosions at me :P
03:06:16 Devastator: yeah, but they're not good for friendly-fire.
03:06:22 Devastator: or are really good at friendly-fire.
03:06:43 ER: maybe a good idea to have magic immunity spells on me, so I can nullify and channeler absorb spells
03:07:03 ER: that means putting it on you, not on me~
03:07:18 ER: or it means "up your dex save, noob"
03:09:04 Devastator: Man, being explosion-proof so your ally can bounce bombs off you would be fun.
03:12:03 Devastator: explosion-proofing is good too.
03:15:04 Devastator: mmm, maybe just like d4 or something small.
03:15:10 Devastator: just enough to take some of the edge off.
03:15:27 Devastator: can't wear armour against poison.
03:15:44 Devastator: but the metallic cloth armour with padding should help some gainst 'splosions.
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04:50:13 Devastator: just about to step out for a bit,
syv.
04:50:22 Devastator: not for long, though, be back later.
04:50:29 syv: I'll be here for eight hours.
04:51:45 syv: Oh, about watching Apoc Now
04:52:35 syv: I'm working 16-24 next weekend, and the racing comp is afternoonish on Friday, so I won't be available during the night for the week.
04:53:15 syv: I'll be available during noon/the evening, if that works out for people.
04:55:01 Devastator: let us know how that goes.
04:56:17 ER: not tuesday, and wednesday is christmas, so... maybe I'll be busy?
04:57:44 syv: People with lives are busy this week. :P
05:00:30 ER: I'm going to stay home and have the house to myself and keep going to work minus one day.
05:02:42 syv: I'm pretty much the only person in my direct family who *isn't* scheduled to work Christmas, so... same.
05:04:44 ER: my mom will be in town I think so maybe I'll hang out with her
05:05:00 syv: Oh cool, that sounds good.
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05:05:49 syv: (
syv) Oh, about watching Apoc Now
05:05:49 syv: (
syv) I'm working 16-24 next weekend, and the racing comp is afternoonish on Friday, so I won't be available during the night for the week.
05:06:05 Elasticly_Rigid: This ia me trying to go to bed
05:06:06 syv: (
syv) I'll be available during noon/the evening, if that works out for people.
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05:07:28 er: If you ping me my phone will make a noise, so either do that or do not do that~
05:07:49 MidJag: Hmm, unfortunately Nights will likelly work better for me honestlly. If I get a fair bit of notice I might be able to make something work.
05:08:45 syv: (
syv) People with lives are busy this week. :P
05:09:10 MidJag: Hey, I'm a premed student, I don't have a life.
05:09:29 syv: Keep telling youself that.
05:15:30 syv: Practicing Spiderman races.
05:16:29 MidJag: How've your holidays been?
05:20:07 MidJag: Mines been mostly busy.
05:22:35 MidJag: Yeah, those were all like I guess week before last. And then last week was mostly spent with family and sending a shitton emails arguing about grades.
05:23:47 syv: How much of a break do you get before you get back into it?
05:24:23 MidJag: I think I get like another week or two after this one?
05:25:49 MidJag: Lets see classes begin Jan 8th.
05:25:56 MidJag: Sooo, whenever that is.
05:26:24 MidJag: oh hey, so like two and a half weeks.
05:28:48 MidJag: For whatever reason knowing how many days are in a month has always been something I suck at
05:29:34 syv: Well, it's good to have some free time.
05:35:41 MidJag: Yup, but I'm out in Ohio now visting my dads family
05:39:42 MidJag: Eh. I like most of them, One crazy aunt, but on the whole not bad.
05:58:32 MidJag: Not bad, mostly just studying for the MCAT, and like being around some extended family.
06:03:50 MidJag: I have yet to do either.
06:04:08 MidJag: I might end up doing the first one tomorrow some.
06:04:23 Devastator: Irony apparently read it a bit but got bored to death in the first thirty pages.
06:04:32 Devastator: I've since found someone else who did the same, so should be more understanding.
06:04:43 MidJag: Which first time I read like the quarter I did I never picked up on the puzzle ting.
06:04:52 MidJag: But I do like puzzles and theorys about literacy.
06:04:54 syv: If you're ever interested, I'll teach ya to race~
06:05:05 syv: Oh, NotW's puzzle aspects as pretty subtle.
06:05:21 syv: Also, from the way
Dev talks, I think a lot of it isn't really relevant until book two.
06:07:34 Devastator: there's lots out already.
06:07:47 MidJag: I also probably should not have started that book as a relaxing thing in between some important thing I forget what exactly it was, maybe finals? Was proabbly not the best time to pick up on subtly.
06:07:51 Devastator: also, one of the confuzzled guys picked up an important point I didn't consider.
06:08:32 Devastator: you can relax about it too.
06:09:07 syv: Mm. NotW can be enjoyed in a relaxed way, but I don't think it's great as a book to read piecemeal.
06:09:35 syv: There's lots of other stuff that, while not as well written, suffers less from being dropped for a month in between chapters.
06:10:09 syv: NotW really deserves to get finished within a couple weeks or a month or so.
06:11:12 syv: It *is* pretty slow paced,
Dev.
06:11:55 Devastator: I guess I'm just used to too slow.
06:14:29 Devastator: k-com battle went odd.
06:15:48 syv: I read a lot of sub 50k works, and very few >100k works, so NotW is a bit glacial by my standards. Though, to be fair, you could take onlythe stuff from Chandrian attack to College, and have a decent story right there.
06:16:05 syv: The series is pretty much a biography though, and has heft to match.
06:16:33 syv: ...Also I listened to the entire thing as an audiobook, which prolly affects my opinion.
06:21:27 MidJag: I literally never use audiobooks.
06:23:31 syv: I don't, generally, but I listened to it with my father while we were on a roadtrip. He *always* listens to audiobook versions if possible, because A) he's dyslexic, B) busy and doesn't like reading without doing anything, and C) old and farsighted. Plus, audiobooks are awesome for long drives.
06:24:57 Devastator: yeah, makes perfect sense.
06:25:53 Devastator: they're popular among long-haul truckers too.
06:34:36 MidJag: Hmm, I'm thinking going to bed.
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06:35:00 syv: Sleep well, don't let the relatives bite.
07:03:43 syv: Oh god, he's not even using an autoclicker.
07:03:51 syv: Why would somebody *do* that to themself?
07:04:04 Devastator: There's more than one person competing for that.
07:05:08 Devastator: and no, I didn't watch it all.
07:06:30 syv: Okay, he stopped clicking at fifteen minutes, with 449 cookies per second.
07:07:41 syv: That does make it seem a bit more reasonable. From there, it's more about routing and choosing the most efficient investments, plus watching for the random elements and just having the twitch to get them.
07:07:54 syv: So, boring, but not a true carpal tunnel competition.
07:08:29 Devastator: I have done what that guy did, though.
07:08:44 syv: I like the expression he has in the preview image.
07:08:56 syv: One of the purest expressions of boredom that I've ever seen.
07:10:10 Devastator: I did suck less, though.
07:10:33 syv: If you play Cookie Clicker challenge runs, you suck at cookie clicker.
07:10:42 syv: The pros realize that it's a waste of time and quit.
07:12:15 Devastator: When I was unemployed I was bored.
07:13:32 syv: Should've done challenge runs on bubble tanks or something.
07:16:12 syv: Some random browser game I used to play when I was unemployed (and a teenager)
07:16:26 syv: It was somwhat better than most.
07:21:37 Devastator: It was one of the simplest games imagineable.
07:28:38 Devastator: it's keyboard-only, IIRC.
07:28:40 Devastator: just left and right.
07:28:45 Devastator: and enter to start.
07:29:31 syv: Ah, derp, was trying letters and was confused. Spiderman is szxc for me.
07:30:51 syv: Got 9330 just holding right.
07:31:57 Devastator: It's harder than it looks.
07:34:22 syv: I had a simpler game on an older phone, long time ago. A red dot moved around the screen and you tapped it to make it disappear for a few seconds. It was a free game for cats, which few cats were interested in (and their feet didn't register touches well anyway). It did successfully entertain a five year old once, though.
07:35:21 Devastator: I'm gonna play it until I get to the plateau.
07:35:37 Devastator: at about 30k points you hit a point where the game gets easier until about 50-ish k, due to it being less able to screw you.
07:37:32 Devastator: it never gives you an impossible sequence of platforms, but it is willing to assume that you might have jumped from an earlier one and proceeded at speed.
07:41:45 Devastator: ok, enough of that.
07:46:48 Devastator: Dunno what my record was. Think it was about 160k or more.
07:46:58 Devastator: close to the theoretical limit.
07:49:05 Devastator: you have a max speed.
07:49:17 Devastator: and the platforms eventually get too far from each other to be possible.
07:49:33 Devastator: so they stop being able to spawn higher, and eventually you'll miss.
07:49:42 Devastator: I never actually got to the limit, though, I think it was around 220k.
07:55:04 Devastator: I can't remember the name of most of the games I used to play.
08:34:59 syv: Seems like an inexperience youtuber. Also he immediately failed when he chose normal CPUs rather than the easiest, since that's the meme's source.
08:35:24 Devastator: I just wanted to see if the normals change it any.
08:37:44 syv: They don't? I just listened to audio while racing, but it sounded like he was consistently losing minigames, and IIRC on the easiest settings the CPUs go out of their way to suicide.
08:41:27 Devastator: there are a fair number of minigames that aren't winnable by doing nothing.
08:41:39 Devastator: they involve button-mashing or picking specific ones.
08:41:51 Devastator: he still wins many of the same ones.
08:42:02 Devastator: and he goes 3-2, before the last map.
08:46:27 Devastator: the last map blows him up all the time and is harder to win.
09:00:37 Devastator: the fun part is when you realize they're hitting a guy in a mocap suit.
09:04:45 syv: I bet they had multiple guys doing the mocap.
09:11:21 Devastator: "We're starting a technological revolution not an industrial one"
09:11:30 Devastator: goddamn it, I want to slap someone and explain what industry is again.
09:12:52 Devastator: Division of fucking labor, dude, that's all it means.
09:18:18 Devastator: I hope I can finish up an update for you guys as a christmas gift.
09:20:02 Devastator: thanks for sticking with me.
09:23:15 Devastator: is it? I'm having fun with it, but I don't know so.
09:24:17 syv: Nooo, I just call all kinds of crap games "good" just to manipulate people.
09:24:31 Devastator: oh pfft, I know mentally it's good.
09:24:58 Devastator: but emotionally, I'm worried about me not making the combat encounters enteratining, rather than barely describing the results of the pile o' rolls that go into them.
09:26:50 syv: No, it's good. The combat encounters are clearly mechanical, but are fluffy enough to be fun, and the suspense of seeing how it will go makes it interesting. Frankly, even a dry description of a series of numners would be somewhat engaging, and your descriptions are faaar above that.
09:27:30 Devastator: The dice were straining me this battle.. you guys were pretty outmatched.
09:27:32 syv: They're not novel level, and if we had absolutely no stake in it, like with a fictional story, they'd be fairly eh. As is, they're good. It'd be unreasonable to expect novel level prose.
09:27:54 syv: It didn't come off as strained to me.
09:28:40 Devastator: first round: All tinks.
09:28:45 Devastator: "Welp, that looks bad."
09:28:56 Devastator: Second round: Like three hits and a knockout on regeneration.
09:29:29 Devastator: "No, the coke knights did not just roll another hit with DU small arms again, did they?"
09:30:19 syv: Okay this is frigging amazing.
09:30:36 syv: Haven't finished watching yet, but even the first example is impressive.
09:30:50 Devastator: Oh, come on, I know the odds of that scoring a hit, is that going to happen every single turn? Are they going to pull this off and end up in an odd tactical situation for months, where the opfor is going to be fielding full-strength units for months and causing.. problems, but the players aren't going to have fun because they're fighting too-hard kaiju for a while?
09:31:04 Devastator: so yeah, straining.
09:31:23 Devastator: You guys winning that battle would have derailed the flow of the campaign for at least the next six months.
09:31:29 syv: It's a serious, serious competition-level shooter handing a Japanese airsofter a real firearm, giving him some basic tips on how to use it, and having him shoot up targets. The guy's never handled a real gun before, just airsoft.
09:32:16 syv: And, like, he's not doing as well as the comp shooter, but that guy is WAAAAAAY good, like far far better than anyone I've ever shot with, including a good number of police and veterans.
09:32:21 Devastator: let me guess, he's amazing?
09:32:24 syv: The Jap guy is better than all of them.
09:34:51 syv: The only weird thing he does that I've noticed is that he doesn't just use the slide release, he always physically yanks the slide back even when it's *already* locked back. Presumably because airsoft pistols don't lock back.
09:37:22 Devastator: "I'm getting an airsoft"
09:37:30 syv: They are using *very* cowboy range rules by the standards I was taught, though.
09:37:49 syv: Which isn't really weird for people who shoot so much, it just bugs me.
09:37:49 Devastator: ..Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the witnesses buying some.
09:37:57 Devastator: mmm, understandable.
09:38:32 Devastator: to be honest, I don't know proper range discipline.
09:39:01 Devastator: all the shooting I've ever done or been around has been on remote private property.
09:39:26 syv: If things translate that well, it makes a massive amount of sense to buy airsoft for practice. Firing guns is *expensive*, ammo costs a lot. If you can practice essentially for free? That lifts a major restriction for a lot of people. Also, airsoft isn't dangerous, normal people can practice that in their backyards.
09:40:15 syv: Virtually all of my shooting has been as well, my backyard is miles away from any city, and we've got a giant dirt backstop anyway. We just obey very stringent range rules because my father is cautious.
09:40:45 Devastator: some stuff I'm unusually strict about.
09:41:43 Devastator: That guy's a damn machine with his hands.
09:41:51 Devastator: I could never do that in a thousand years. I'm clumsy.
09:41:56 syv: Firearms kill people trivially, so lots of rules about using them. If you've gotta fuck up five different ways to accidentally shoot someone, that's a lot better than only needing two fuckups to shoot someone. Two fuckups can happen.
09:43:36 Devastator: mmm, guy ranting about gun rights is a bit off.
09:43:56 Devastator: you'd think you'd get less of that after seeing the best performance in human history for the first time anyone's ever fired a gun.
09:43:56 syv: I think I've paused to much, haven't seen that yet.
09:44:01 Devastator: I'm skipping ahead.
09:44:09 syv: Most gun rights advocates don't understand what they're talking about at all.
09:44:23 Devastator: Most ----- advocates don't understand what they're talking about at all.
09:44:53 Devastator: There are exceptions, but not many.
09:46:26 Devastator: but yeah, that guy's astonishing.
09:46:37 Devastator: and I can stick with calling him inspriational.
09:48:39 Devastator: thanks for the link.
09:48:58 syv: I keep thinking "Dude, tell him how awesome he is"
09:49:12 syv: This guy's just sitting in the background smiling, and not saying anything to him.
09:49:47 syv: And he was giving him minor advice on trigger pull, and sounding almost annoyed with having to repeat himself, to correct one small error in otherwise flawless form.
09:50:05 Devastator: There's some praise, but yeah.
09:50:58 Devastator: I wonder if they'll enter that guy in a competition.
09:51:01 syv: Then again, Liku could definitely teach *me* a ton about... all of it, I'm sure. He's probably quite aware of his form being basically flawless.
09:51:11 Devastator: maybe just enjoying it for the hour or so.
09:51:13 Devastator: there's a lot of cuts.
09:51:46 Devastator: I do like how the shots of him shooting are mostly very clean.
09:51:49 Devastator: don't need people talking over it.
09:51:55 Devastator: I just want to see those hands.
09:56:15 syv: His habits with the AR are better than I've seen with anyone handling an AR, and that counts videos.
09:56:47 Devastator: I had a buddy who never bowled in his life do pretty good with a bit of proper training once.
09:56:55 Devastator: it was nothing on that level, but it was much easier to teach that guy.
09:57:10 Devastator: then the rest of us scrubs.
09:57:29 syv: What was different between him and the other scrubs?
09:58:29 Devastator: 'here's how you move your weight'
09:58:58 syv: Liku seems to already have virtually flawless habits.
10:04:28 syv: 24:30 on the gun vid if you didn't see Liku fire the AR like it's an automatic.
10:05:53 Devastator: I made it that far.
10:10:50 Devastator: Mmm, someone youtubed it.
10:12:07 Devastator: (thinking of people who make us all look like scrubs.)
10:13:19 Devastator: I'm sad that guy never got to win it all.
11:24:54 er: Shrouded by night but with steady stride!
11:25:09 er: Colored by blood but always clear of mind!
11:29:03 syv: Proud huntee of the church. Beasts are a curse, and a curse is a shackle.
11:43:23 syv: The fuck IS a lumenwood, anyway?
11:44:56 syv: Potatoes have eyes, what about cauliflower?
11:45:46 syv: Maybe cauliflowers have eyes on the inside.
11:47:48 er: I ate a few last night and I don't feel the insight rushing in
11:48:35 syv: Did you notice the beasthood bar draining for a moment?
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12:32:18 er: Been doing other things instead of that!
12:32:53 syv: Okay. Are they things you want to do instead of running a forum game?
12:34:28 er: Went to work, had a solstice party, then did something instead of sleeping, then slept.
12:37:42 syv: When will you have time to work on FMD?
12:38:04 syv: ...Gotta go. Be free from my nagging~!
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