ERLOG 2019-11-29

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02:11:55 er has joined #einsteinianroulette
02:12:27 er: Yo
02:15:28 Devastator: you er.
02:20:34 er: Me
02:22:29 Piecewise: You er
02:22:31 Piecewise: Me Tarzan
02:53:13 Devastator: heya.
02:53:18 Devastator: tarzan, eh?
03:06:14 Piecewise: Please tell me you know that reference
03:06:29 Piecewise: For god sake I don't think I'm older than you
03:09:21 er: Who tarzan
03:09:56 Devastator: of course I know that reference.
03:10:13 Devastator: I was going to suggest you're more of a george, PW.
03:11:00 Piecewise: George of the Jungle?
03:11:02 Piecewise: Maybe
03:12:09 Piecewise: I think I might be more of a Tim Allen in "Jungle 2 Jungle"
03:12:32 Devastator: hmm.
03:12:47 Devastator: yeah, probably.
03:33:53 Devastator: (I haven't seen that)
03:40:28 Piecewise: You're missing out
03:40:30 Piecewise: he lied
04:11:31 Piecewise: Lets see here
04:11:35 Piecewise: mook and dig tomorrow
04:19:16 Piecewise: Maybe I'll work more on that other thing too
04:19:39 Piecewise: though I also want to work on some models, and I'm gonna hit up that japanese shop....
04:19:40 Piecewise: hmm
04:22:39 Devastator: hmm
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05:13:59 er has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )]
05:14:40 Elastic_Ridicule is now known as ER
05:16:26 ER: hey hey folks
05:22:42 Piecewise: Hey hey, Er here
05:22:59 ER: you can't disprove it
05:33:00 Devastator: indeed.
05:43:29 syv has joined #einsteinianroulette
05:43:38 Piecewise: I mean, if anyone here is connected with the letters "ER" I think its me
05:43:42 Piecewise: Hello Sy
05:43:51 Piecewise: or Siv
05:43:55 Piecewise: or Shiv
05:44:06 ER: shivving is good
05:44:11 Devastator: hey syv.
05:44:16 Devastator: That's a fair point, PW.
05:44:45 syv: You're an Emergency Reptile, Piecewise?
05:44:51 syv: hey dev.
05:45:04 ER: anyway, here's a nice series with only three videos which isn't going to get any more https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5pycTgSAvaDpa9cRLCNIfFC7yJCg30CD
05:45:08 syv: Also sy is preferred of those.
05:47:26 Piecewise: I recognize that artist ER
05:48:58 Piecewise: He likes his female cat people
05:49:14 ER: who doesn't?
05:49:17 syv: Oh, is that the Skyrim short artist?
05:49:24 ER: if its you, I have to kick you out
05:49:31 syv: The one that Paris was using gifs from as his avatar?
05:49:41 syv: I think I'm the only person here who can kick.
05:50:22 Piecewise: Yes, probably sy. He's done skyrim kajit stuff
05:50:30 Piecewise: the lock picking and spell short videos
05:50:49 Piecewise: And I'm fine with them
05:50:59 Piecewise: Who doesn't like a nice attractive cat girl?
05:51:01 syv: Yeah, those are decent.
05:51:05 ER: https://youtu.be/2rpn58ss2_4
05:51:09 Piecewise: A cat is fine too, as the saying goes
05:51:17 ER: that's the source of paris's avatar, same artist
05:57:15 Piecewise: The avatar of paris
05:57:25 Piecewise: Iron Tower-San
05:58:08 Piecewise: Well now that sy is here to hold down the fort, I gotta go. Got to be up early tomorrow. Gotta get a good spot to watch the black friday riots
05:58:26 syv: Uhuh.
05:58:36 syv: Goodbye. Sleep well, Skeleton.
05:58:45 Piecewise: Really I just have to drop my wife at the hospital tomorrow morning
05:58:50 ER: Oh yeah, apparently the artist also worked on Ronin, which has some nice animation
05:58:52 Piecewise: so she can do some work there
05:59:21 ER: healing people mangled by black friday?
06:17:45 ER: how was thanksgiving?
06:18:07 Devastator: Last month. ;-p
06:18:09 Devastator: and pretty good.
06:21:08 syv: Boring. Family all working, except me, so I mostly just lazed around with cats and stressed about thinga of no consequence.
06:24:45 Devastator: bloodstain's happy.
06:25:04 Devastator: oh, those are magboils.
06:25:39 syv: ...?
06:25:58 Devastator: awful hospital.
06:26:07 ER: ITCHY. TASTY.
06:26:16 ER: resident evil reference!
06:26:23 Devastator: oh, it's a RE reference?
06:26:25 Devastator: what's it mean?
06:27:10 ER: a journal you find in I think RE 1, of someone who'd turning into a zombie.
06:27:23 Devastator: zombie bloodstainness.
06:27:25 Devastator: whoopsies.
06:27:41 ER: which eventually just becomes "itchy. tasty."
06:50:11 ER: what to do?
06:50:32 syv: To do what?
06:51:24 ER: :thinking:
06:52:48 Devastator: tasty.
06:53:22 ER: how do i do art
06:53:42 ER: i feel like i want to do an art, but thats hard
06:54:41 syv: Grab a piece of paper and some crayons.
06:55:14 syv: Since crayons are crap, you'll inherently believe whatever you're gonna draw will be worthless, which negates any anxiety about its quality.
06:55:24 syv: Thus allowing you to art freely without mental blocks.
06:55:56 syv: Then hang it on the wall at work, signing it with someone else's name.
06:56:08 syv: It will confuse people, as long as you ensure nobody spots you putting it up.
06:56:32 ER: -Sophia
06:56:45 syv: Heh, yes.
07:11:34 ER: https://youtu.be/hcmE-8FC0Jc
07:14:29 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecvnvmy34JE
07:14:33 Devastator: except you can't get there, so..
07:20:26 ER: welp, iji gets vaporized multiple times!
07:24:00 Devastator: kaboooom.
07:24:40 ER: that phantom hammer is totally a high-level magical girl attack
07:27:16 Devastator: which one is the phantom hammer?
07:27:33 ER: giant laser
07:27:54 ER: the one with the vaporizing effect
07:28:52 Devastator: ahh.
07:29:02 Devastator: Just a high-level manabolt, maybe.
07:29:28 Devastator: We've mostly been putting out low-power ones, but I could see that being like a Major for manabolt IV.
07:29:46 ER: hey syv, how big of a manabolt is that?
07:31:57 syv: Huh? Is what?
07:32:23 ER: remember the phantom hammer in iji?
07:32:38 ER: it made giant holes in the terrain at one point
07:33:03 Devastator: the giant laser from the end boss.
07:33:22 ER: I don't think syv saw it in that fight
07:33:38 ER: you need to screw up pretty bad under normal circumstances
07:35:54 syv: Uh. Do I need to watch that whole video to see it?
07:36:37 ER: it's a short ways in
07:37:12 ER: Tor stomps to knock iji into the air, then fires a GIANT LAZOR BEAM which anihilates her
07:37:33 Devastator: skip ahead to 1:07, you'll see a giant laser beam not much further.
07:38:17 Devastator: it's at 1:32
07:38:32 syv: I see.
07:42:10 syv: I wrote radius here and I'm not sure if I meant diameter.
07:42:58 syv: Assuming that's a typo and I did mean diameter, which is more in line with the progression, it's finale at MB IV. If not, it's only massive.
07:43:17 syv: Though on the other hand, it's only reduced her to ash, which is rather weak for a direct hit.
07:43:57 syv: Out of Sophia's sawnoff, she could get better coverage than that out of a major w/ MB IV, and it'd still be pretty damn lethal.
07:43:58 Devastator: ..damn.
07:44:11 Devastator: high level manabolts are amazing.
07:44:29 syv: Well yeah?
07:44:44 syv: You can MISS with a FINALE. It better be amazing.
07:45:05 syv: Still weaker than a well-timed Soul Nova, too.
07:45:10 ER: Iji is also pretty damn durable, all things considered.
07:45:20 syv: Not when she has two HP.
07:45:30 ER: could see her shrugging off a MB IV Cheap shot
07:45:40 Devastator: Probably still pretty damn durable even with two HP.
07:46:19 ER: normal bullets probably don't scratch her armor, let alone take HP
07:46:35 syv: Normal bullets do scratch her armor tho?
07:46:44 ER: those are nanoweapons
07:47:14 syv: But yeah, 1 HP is probably a minor at MB IV for her. A moderate is definitely quite a bit more than 1 HP.
07:47:53 Devastator: man, manabolts are awesome.
07:47:59 ER: okay, now lets have iji fight an MG on IRC :D
07:48:01 Devastator: maybe I shoulda built a manabolt character instead of a tank.
07:48:15 syv shrugs
07:48:18 Devastator: maybe, but I don't know Iji.
07:48:39 syv: CC is more synergistic, much more defensive, and much more efficient.
07:49:01 syv: CC IV could totally let you rip IJI apart.
07:49:11 syv: (ER) okay, now lets have iji fight an MG on IRC :D
07:49:19 syv: If you want, sure.
07:49:28 Devastator: I don't know.
07:49:34 Devastator: max Str Iji is pretty damn strong.
07:49:37 syv: You'll probably have to remind me about Iji weapons though.
07:49:41 ER: meanwhile, I can delete things as soon as I decide I no longer value my contenued existance in a state of appoximated humanity
07:50:10 syv: Max strength Iji is strong, not tough, and she's extremely slow compared to a CC IV MG. She can't parry bullets.
07:50:21 ER: http://www.remar.se/daniel/iji2guide_weapons.php
07:50:32 ER: also she can't aim up or down~
07:50:39 ER: or shoot in midair
07:50:59 syv: We can assume those are just game, at least.
07:51:05 Devastator: Yeah.
07:51:13 Devastator: and fair point.
07:51:20 Devastator: you know, that'd be her biggest disadvantage.
07:51:22 Devastator: iji isn't fast.
07:51:54 syv: I think she can probably run pretty fast. Faster than her angry march speed in the game, at least.
07:52:06 ER: okay, for stats, Tasen 10, Crack 9, we'll go for the Nuke here :V
07:52:09 syv: All that power in her legs, she should be able to do a decent sprint.
07:52:21 ER: rest in HP and attack
07:52:23 syv: Dev, you want to stat an MG?
07:52:27 Devastator: mmm, ok.
07:52:31 Devastator: starting level?
07:53:03 ER: I think she's supposed to be slow because the gun is heavy? But then, strength doesn't matter at all.
07:53:05 Devastator: 10 levels, ok.
07:53:14 syv: One for every point ER puts into an IJI stat.
07:53:14 syv: ER can decide how many points he wants.
07:53:14 syv: Actually, no. Make this fair. One MG level per TWO Iji levels.
07:53:28 Devastator: oh, ok.
07:53:28 ER: Maybe it really is an angry march, possessed by the miffed spirit of doomguy
07:53:41 Devastator: lemme know how many levels you take. I gotta decide on stat layout.
07:54:01 syv: I'm gonna eat some pie, you have a few minutes to think.
07:54:04 ER: ...I forgot what all Iji's stats are.
07:55:22 syv: Attack, ammo, health, strength, tasen, komato, as I recall.
07:55:26 ER: will assimilate be useful at all here?
07:55:32 syv: Crack + something else I guess.
07:55:34 syv: Nah.
07:55:50 ER: oh yeah, assimilate is ammo max...
07:56:14 ER: they all start at 1
07:56:41 syv: So you can't be a dick and start with 1 tasen, thus fighting a level 0 MG with an assault rifle. Goodie.
07:56:59 Devastator: Heh.
07:57:06 Devastator: yeah, iji stats start at 1, so at least five levels.
07:58:23 syv: Let's ignore crack and assimilate, so four minimum.
07:58:42 Devastator: Yeah.
07:58:43 syv: What's the tenth stat?
07:58:45 syv: Armor?
07:58:47 Devastator: MG's not got a nanofield.
07:59:18 ER: HP 5, Attack 3, Strength 6 (enough to kick over a Komato trooper), Assimilate 2, Tasen 10, Komato 1, Crack 9
07:59:33 ER: 36 levels
07:59:43 Devastator: ok, 18.
07:59:49 ER: also, looks pretty close to what I end up with
07:59:49 syv: Oh yeah, crack applies to what you can combine.
08:00:08 ER: yeah. This is enough for a reflector :V
08:00:20 ER: ...I guess all ones is enough for reflector
08:00:48 ER: armor is an upgrade you can pick up, not a stat
08:01:02 ER: I THINK that's all the stats?
08:02:35 ER: it's Health Attack Assimilate Strength Crack Tasen Komato
08:02:45 ER: just seven stats
08:03:29 syv: Okay.
08:04:17 ER: https://youtu.be/Ot5CMd5Flmg
08:04:46 syv: Pie eaten, waiting on dev powers.
08:05:18 syv: How should I handle stat rolls for Iji?
08:05:52 ER: She's a videogame character, and I'm at the controls, so RTD is fine~
08:06:41 ER: Iji is played with the arrow keys, and the arrows on my laptop are half height, so it would make sense for me to fuck up~
08:09:28 syv: Kay. Attack and strength are high, so bonuses to attack rolls and movement/kick rolls. Moreso for the latter.
08:10:11 ER: should I welcome myself to overshoot city or will you handle that sensibly? :P
08:10:15 syv: Hum, gotta think of an arena.
08:10:22 syv: >6 = 5
08:10:31 ER: fair~
08:11:04 syv: Okay, Iji is a murdery Iji, she's stomping through the complex murdering things.
08:11:17 ER: DIIIIIIE
08:11:49 Devastator: Do we see each other straight off?
08:12:17 syv: Little Miss Dev is a magical girl wearing a modified taser suit given to her by one of the friendly tasen peoples who was helping humans escape. Iji just murdered a bunch of tasen.
08:12:59 syv: Aww, the python app I use for the PS roll table now requires an account. What the hell.
08:13:00 Devastator: I'm assuming the suit isn't electified. ;-p
08:13:11 syv: Gimme a sec...
08:13:15 Devastator: damn.
08:15:52 syv: Okay.
08:16:18 Devastator: Well, if I can see Iji, I'm going to try to run for cover, and activate DwR.
08:16:31 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5UBAQ1mUc
08:16:59 syv: WHOOPSIE, Dev?
08:17:13 syv: You both spot each other immediately, as Iji passes through the door. You're in a large open area, between two tall buildings, forming a kind of valley. To the north and south, the walls drop away into open air, far above the city.
08:17:25 Devastator: I think I'll go with a moderate.
08:17:37 syv: Dev's char is holding a crossbow, while sitting on a ledge above the door into her building.
08:17:42 syv: Go.
08:17:42 Devastator: Ahh.
08:17:44 ER: "Hey! Get back here!" Iji will run after than Tasen and kick her until she dies! Can't be wasting ammo on a little Soldier, especially not one so tiny she should really be in Scout armor.
08:18:35 ER: https://youtu.be/hqwm2TLl-a4
08:18:40 Devastator: same as before, run for cover activate DwR.
08:18:48 Devastator: moderate cost, if relevant.
08:18:48 syv: Jeez I cannot listen to this song.
08:18:53 Devastator: Heh.
08:19:01 Devastator: fortunately, it's not that important.
08:20:03 syv: Okay, Iji charges at LMD while yelling, and makes frighteningly good time. LMD starts singing, and retreats into the building behind her, but Iji is gaining on her.
08:20:20 syv: Not fast enough to have entered melee range, but way faster than a normal human has any right to be going.
08:20:26 syv: New actions.
08:20:39 ER: "I SAID, GET BACK HERE COWARD!"
08:20:52 ER: >Keep running.
08:21:56 Devastator: Turn a corner and trip up Iji via TK, either throwing something under her legs or tripping her with telekinesis. Then do a sniper Major manabolt to her face.
08:22:17 Devastator: through the wall, yes.
08:22:34 syv: "Through the wall"
08:22:49 syv: She's in clear view.
08:22:55 Devastator: yeah.
08:23:00 Devastator: go around a corner first.
08:23:12 syv: Kay.
08:23:19 Devastator: want the wall so she can't see it coming to dodge.
08:23:27 Devastator: or reflect.
08:24:21 syv: Okay, Iji slows down a bit as she gets into the cramped area, habitually being slightly more cautious in case of komato or tasen ambush.
08:24:36 syv: She feels something nick her leg but it's so weak she ignores it.
08:25:09 syv: A moment later, as she rounds the corner LMD just went around, she sees the girl standing ready, aiming her dumb little crossbow at Iji's head.
08:25:32 syv: There's no time to react, LMD fires immediately, and hits her square.
08:25:37 syv: Now, what was Iji's HP?
08:25:42 ER: 5.
08:26:57 syv: So ten pips. And that was a major at IV. Hmm. Ugh, six HP left, that sounds decent. Iji is flung back against the wall, stunned for a half second before she gets back up. No stunlock 4 u.
08:27:00 syv: New actions.
08:27:16 ER: teched it~
08:28:38 ER: "Dammit." Fire back with the MPFB!
08:28:46 syv: Dev?
08:29:56 Devastator: Hit the floor and RE to knock Iji back down. Then a second manabolt similar to the last one.
08:29:58 ER: heh, that'll knock me down. I forgot about that.
08:30:02 Devastator: (resounding Echos)
08:30:28 syv: Well now.
08:30:56 syv: You rolled a coveted rare talented critfail.
08:31:03 ER: :O
08:31:06 Devastator: Welp.
08:31:19 syv: And I'm pretty sure an MPFB hit would just atomize a little girl.
08:31:26 Devastator: Yeah, dead then.
08:31:37 syv: Iji rolled well on her attack roll, so yeah, thassa hit and a kill.
08:32:01 syv: If it had only been a fail your gem would've survived, anything better and you'd have dodged.
08:32:02 ER: "Huh, she didn't leave behind Nano."
08:32:05 Devastator: eh, shoulda just went with the mind control purity and insta-won. ;-p
08:32:42 syv: Rocket tag is not a good game against someone with HP to tank rockets. *Shrug*
08:32:54 Devastator: Yeah.
08:33:34 ER: Yeah, Manabolts are powerful, but their problem is that they're too honest. :P
08:33:46 syv: Too honest?
08:34:34 ER: if you're not going to use magic to Fucking Cheat, why use magic at all?~
08:34:49 syv: True enough.
08:34:59 ER: Also, if you were Joy, Soul Nova would probably take out Iji well enough
08:35:06 Devastator: Fair point.
08:35:08 Devastator: or a more fun DwR.
08:35:15 Devastator: although I was expecting a dodgier Iji.
08:35:47 ER: nah, I was playing something like my first playthrough
08:35:55 ER: when syv said it was murder Iji
08:36:19 syv: Huh, he lists muzzle velocities for the guns.
08:36:24 ER: I was playing all night, had maxxed out strength, and was just kicking everything to death
08:36:29 ER: yup
08:36:38 syv: MPFB is only 24 m/s, which is, uh, kinda uselessly slow in context.
08:37:01 ER: "Magnetically Propelled Fission Bomb"
08:37:20 ER: I don't think the velocity is what does the damage
08:37:27 ER: though yeah, could be dodged
08:37:37 syv: No, it's just that Dev's char can almost outrun that.
08:37:53 Devastator: That's a baaad dodge roll.
08:38:04 syv: Yes. Critfail, so no dodge regardless...
08:38:18 ER: https://youtu.be/yPirKxqz2n8
08:38:18 syv: But had I thought about that velocity I might not have rolled.
08:38:25 Devastator: would Alida even need a roll with mob 3?
08:38:30 syv: No.
08:38:44 syv: Also the MG only has a muzzle Of 720 m/s, which is again kinda slow for an infantry AR.
08:39:28 syv: Comparable with an AK-47 at 715 m/s
08:40:23 ER: guess they just shoot really big bullets? :shrug:
08:41:08 Devastator: well, pulled a goha.
08:41:10 Devastator: gohan.
08:41:22 syv: The bullets are visibly a significant fraction of Iji's head size, so yes.
08:42:23 ER: i think the bullets themselves are not visible, and those effects are where they hit
08:42:36 syv: Oh.
08:42:53 syv: Well then the tasen have pretty sad guns for an advanced species capable of exterminatus.
08:43:29 ER: well, that's the weapon they give to their weakest dudes
08:43:46 ER: the standard soldiers get that and a compact rocket launcher, which is pretty good
08:44:13 syv: And it sounds like it's not much stronger than the guns WE give to OUR weakest dudes, when we have millions of them.
08:44:33 ER: though the big guys do STILL get a machinegun with the same power, so I dunoo
08:45:25 ER: And they're all defeated by a single human girl with a standard order nanofield and no armor
08:45:35 ER: and a komato general gun, but still
08:46:13 syv: They are kinda all useless idiots.
08:46:33 ER: pretty much
08:47:04 Devastator: http://youtu.be/P8dngX-LErw
08:47:10 Devastator: not standard order nanofield.
08:47:12 Devastator: she's got a super one.
08:48:29 ER: ""
08:48:30 ER: Tons of extra stuff related to the game's production, including coding.
08:48:30 ER: Retcons
08:48:30 ER: Iji 1.7 changed some of the game's lore. Notably, the Komato have never encountered another species besides the one they stole Nanotechnology from, and it's made more clear that Iji's Nanofield is a regular Tasen Soldier's
08:48:40 ER: bah, copypaste fail
08:48:52 ER: http://www.remar.se/daniel/iji2guide_trivia.php
08:49:15 Devastator: aww
08:49:19 Devastator: retcon stuff like that.
08:49:50 ER: that phrasing implies it was already the case and they just make it more obvious...
08:50:00 Devastator: well, yes.
08:52:32 ER: well, guess we've confirmed that Iji is the more powerful one, provided her enemy critfails
08:53:19 Devastator: eh, you wouldn't have died from that shot either.
08:54:01 ER: I expected MG to be very dodgy, which is why I made sure to get the nuke
08:54:04 syv: We've confirmed that Iji is powerful, and that Magical Girls are squishy.
08:54:36 ER: the nuke is an instawin against the dodge tanky assassains in-game
08:54:37 Devastator: I wasn't planning on getting close to Iji.
08:55:25 syv: Buut considering that Dev could have gone with Soul Nova, or full outburst for teleporting bombs, or used a high manabolt, or chosen CC IV, and all would've given Iji about zero chance...
08:55:26 Devastator: Nuke's powerful, but I remember it not having much range.
08:55:39 syv: Only on screen.
08:55:41 Devastator: well, about zero came off anyway.
08:58:02 Devastator: hmm.
09:03:48 ER: poor squishy things
09:04:41 ER: poor FMD syvgirl, who tried to pick a fight with a compant and expected to win~
09:12:57 syv: FMD when
09:13:18 ER considers
09:14:04 ER hands syv a revolver
09:14:15 ER: shoot TH and I'll say jan 1st~
09:14:47 ER: onest
09:15:04 syv: How pray tell do I shoot a forum thread?
09:15:21 syv: Wait. I have an idea.
09:15:32 syv: Won't have the time till Sunday though, sadly.
09:15:44 Devastator: Compan T.
09:15:56 syv: Company,
09:18:55 ER: if you need time for your idea, does that make it... a plan?
09:19:04 syv: Yes.
09:19:21 ER: groovy
09:46:14 syv: Night, ER.
09:46:16 syv: <3
09:46:25 ER: alright
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09:54:48 ER: https://youtu.be/tjQIO1rqTBE
10:27:43 ER has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
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