00:30:50 Devastator: also illegal, because.
00:39:55 Devastator: I might be somewhat of an apologist. Doesn't mean I approve or epouse those opinions.
00:50:39 Devastator: Though there are a few I enjoy reading about, such as taking a cannonball to the leg with "Well, that's a thing."
00:55:55 Devastator: One of the few wikipedia pages dedicated to a specific body part.
01:05:08 Devastator: although there might be more related to religious relics.
01:08:04 Devastator: two of them, after all.
01:42:57 Devastator: I wonder if that was Telcal that saeko just met.
01:45:04 ER: dammit, stop rerolling twos into ones!
01:45:18 ER: you're making my system look bad!
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02:28:45 er: Good old daylight savings time, giving me a free extra hour to sleep. ;p
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03:35:15 syv: It is distinctly worrying that he seemed to roll a d20 to avoid being identified, but no he's not Telcal.
03:35:54 syv: Are we supposed to watch a movie tonight?
03:35:58 Devastator: I wouldn't guarantee it to be true, but he seems too smooth to be a normal person and rolled too high.
03:36:02 Devastator: I think that was tomorrow?
03:36:04 Devastator: I do have it already.
03:36:21 Devastator: do you need a link?
03:37:07 syv: Not the night on Sunday that I'm awake during.
03:37:19 Devastator: yeah, in about a day.
03:37:57 Devastator: anyway, I don't really see any particular reason to not take the job. We'll make profit even if he only covers the cost, and we get to recover something uniquely valuable to make something with.
03:38:03 Devastator: it's not like someone else is using the floating city core.
03:38:13 syv: Yeah, taking the job seems wise.
03:38:50 syv: I mean, even if we want the core, taking it ourselves without being paid by him is still making an incidental enemy, one who probably wouldn't be as happy to pay us for it.
03:39:23 Devastator: I'm hoping we'll get to find sub-cores or smaller bits, anyway.
03:39:27 syv: So just getting paid extra to do what we're already gonna do, along with gaining a new goal, is totally reasonable.
03:39:31 Devastator: no offence, but a city is too big to be useful.
03:40:31 Devastator: be too hard to park.
03:40:43 syv: Just park it above other cities, no prob.
03:40:44 Devastator: and wouldn't help us solve problems we face.
03:40:56 syv: Park it above problems, then land it.
03:41:12 Devastator: Ahh, the good ending to Breath of Fire II.
03:41:44 syv: When all you have is a flying island, everything looks like a parking spot.
03:45:42 Devastator: eh. I don't think anything bigger than like a flying island carrying a mansion or a small tower would be useful.
03:47:21 Devastator: and it's questionable if that's more useful than just a mount which can carry things back to it. There's other ways to handle the security elements.
03:47:47 syv: Well, that'll have all the carrying capacity we need, all the defensive value we need, and all the infrastructure we need.
03:48:14 syv: But then we can't carry our own enemy occupation with us. And what
03:48:26 Devastator: our own enemy occupation..?
03:48:29 syv: 's life without a small guerilla army in your trunk?
03:48:56 Devastator: Pfft,
syv, if I can get "Lightweight" we can have an army in a box.
03:50:05 Devastator: but.. I think summons would be more fun, anyway.
03:50:13 Devastator: less expensive and more variety.
03:50:30 Devastator: plus you might be able to add a few robots and animated drawings, too.
03:51:32 syv: Nah, I meant an enemy army. As in, flying around a city that we only have partial control over, with another enemy force launching raids on our occupied section.
03:54:50 Devastator: but it would actually be doable.
03:54:58 Devastator: we did just run into a mage with an army, after all.
03:55:49 syv: That one... maybe we should find a somewhat less-lethal enemy.
03:56:12 Devastator: eh, just gotta get stronger. ;-p
03:56:20 Devastator: but this one shouldn't have that degree of straight-up combat.
03:56:27 Devastator: and if we do run into something like that, we can run away.
03:57:03 Devastator: it's the main reason why I want to upsize benny so he can carry everyone in one go. So we have the option to flee.
03:58:08 Devastator: we might want to come back later, specifically prepared, if things go too badly.
04:00:01 Devastator: us two, the two guards, and the couple other people I'm bringing along to help with the digging.
04:00:09 Devastator: I was going to bring a scholar, but your character can do that.
04:00:21 Devastator: maybe a third guard so that we can take shifts.
04:00:30 Devastator: it's a whole city.. we're going to need a few more bodies to do a real search.
04:01:13 syv: I'm gonna have to prioritize clockwork research items, aren't I?
04:01:36 Devastator: if you just want to do research, I'll find someone else to hire.
04:01:56 syv: What do you think about renting some storage warehouse to jam ALL the interesting clockwork things into?
04:02:17 syv: As Dubs suggested, taking a few trips to get it all.
04:02:35 syv: Well, I don't think I have the money for it. Unless I sell some of my sweet loots.
04:02:38 Devastator: Whatever you want. All I'd remember is I wouldn't treat the hull stuff as valuable outside of mana.
04:02:48 Devastator: You got plenty of stuff, or you could ask me to pay back some of the money.
04:03:03 syv: Yeah, I uh... mostly added that so that there'd be more for Dubs to discard.
04:03:04 Devastator: Saeko does owe Ekrov 400 gold.
04:04:06 syv: Yeah. "How many of these items can I carry?" "80%" "Ah cool, I'll just add 17% more junk to the pile."
04:04:47 syv: ...Backwards, but oh well.
04:04:54 Devastator: seriously, I made a giant flying creature so just taking stuff works.
04:05:02 Devastator: it's precisely for situations like this.
04:06:33 Devastator: although I would recommend selling at least one machine gun.
04:06:39 Devastator: we don't need five.
04:08:38 Devastator: thinking about it, yeah.
04:08:41 syv: You said we were gonna have like six or seven people along on the city trip. That's less than one gun per body, and even if we had seven guns I think that's insufficient dakka.
04:09:02 syv: We should really have a gun per arm, plus a few spares.
04:09:08 Devastator: I'm not going to arm people I'm hiring for ~20 gold with 250 gold weapons.
04:09:27 syv: The obvious answer is to hire more expensive people. :3
04:09:32 Devastator: if I want more combat power I'd hire more expensive people.
04:09:43 Devastator: I just want a couple diggers to act like extra eyes.
04:10:20 Devastator: I'd be okay with maybe another expert, perhaps someone from the region or something, too.
04:11:00 syv: We could probably secure ourselves pretty well by only contracting people who accept a tracking tattoo being placed on them.
04:11:34 syv: Wouldn't really even need it to be functional, though I doubt it'd be too hard to create such a thing.
04:12:13 Devastator: I'm not worried about people running off.
04:12:20 Devastator: Not going to happen.
04:12:57 Devastator: Just expressing that it's inefficient to give really expensive weapons to poorly-paid soldiers.. it's an inefficient use of money.
04:13:48 Devastator: running off, well, where would these people go? We own the transportation method.
04:14:03 syv: Ehh, we *have* the weapons, and if we're not selling them (;-;), might as well have the bodies use them. Inefficient, yes, but not inconceivable.
04:15:06 Devastator:
syv, your character can probably make even better guns than those.
04:15:25 Devastator: if you can't do ammunition, mine can make more ammunition.
04:16:41 Devastator: guns guns guns guns guns guns guns guns guns guns guns guns.
04:17:20 Devastator: seriously, maybe keep 3. One for the bird, one for the home, and one to gift someone.
04:18:36 syv: Eh. I'll probably sell some, but not before A) Money is clearly useful, and B) I've confirmed I can make more.
04:19:00 syv: Which likely means "After I've finished with the wreck and made my sculpture".
04:19:04 Devastator: money is useful, though. we'll need the 100 gold thing to set up a base somewhere.
04:19:15 Devastator: yeah, I wasn't expecting you to sell them while out in the wilderness.
04:20:05 Devastator: I'm sure we could spend a hell of a lot more than that equipping said base.
04:21:30 syv: Yeah, mana is worth 10? 25? gold for an alchemist. I just made 64 mana in a turn, and Dubs says I should average ~100 over the next two days if I keep at it?
04:22:03 syv: If I can actually thaum the radioactive pellets for mana two, I might walk away with 400 mana.
04:22:51 Devastator: I'd like to beg for some of that, actually..
04:23:18 syv: Yeah if I get 400 you won't be hearing complaints about sharing.
04:23:38 syv: I'm genuinely unsure what to even do with that much. Pouring it all into stats seems like a bit of a waste.
04:23:41 Devastator: Yeah. Wouldn't know about it unless I told you, and you're using my flying mount to get there.
04:23:47 Devastator: mmm, see what words you get.
04:23:50 Devastator: put some into stats.
04:24:29 Devastator: Saeko's probably going to need about 50 to make the parachutes and upsize benny.
04:24:39 Devastator: Also, pay for your bird eyes.
04:26:18 Devastator: don't worry about those.. I have enough to cover them, but that's probably what I'd want paid for if you get back like 400.
04:27:36 Devastator: since they're basically mission expenses.
04:32:48 Devastator: although I certainly wouldn't say no to more.
04:34:05 syv: Hmm. I think I'm gonna wait to thaum the radioactive pellets until after I'm basically done with clockwork wreckage. Because the raw metal is hugely profitable already, and I'd hate to somehow break the alch gear before even getting the "free" thaum.
04:35:15 syv: Can you give me more detail on what I was supposed to diagnose with Benedict? I remember it was about him not having enough lifeforce to power all his enchantments, I think, but I'm not entirely certain how to go about examining that right now.
04:35:37 Devastator: well, I'd be ok with retconning that I showed you it, considering it was the plan for a while.
04:39:58 syv: That isn't super helpful, but oh well. Don't need to be specific, I suppose.
04:40:34 syv: The negative effect is that he's more tired than he should be, right?
04:40:58 Devastator:
PW said something about him being too enchanted.
04:41:07 Devastator: IIRC, he's got four spells on him.
04:47:52 Devastator: yeah, doesn't make sense to be too specific given the failure.
04:50:23 Devastator: I mostly wanted to do so in case he needed more enchantments.
04:50:52 syv: That does not sound like the cure to "too many enchantments" ;P
04:53:25 Devastator: hence figuring out what said cure is first.
04:53:44 Devastator: no offense, but I see little reason to stop at his current status, mana permitting. ;-p
04:54:02 Devastator: 1 gold/day is expensive, but not too expensive, and he's extremely useful.
05:00:29 Devastator:
PW said big enough to carry everyone would be a 3 gold/day, so readily doable, although he'll be the clock on the exploration.
05:03:13 syv: Occurs to me that I might be able to procrastinate about thauming the pellets and researching the crucible.
05:03:45 Devastator: you should have a few turns there. I'll want to interview for the new people, go shopping for a bit.
05:03:54 syv: If Benedict can carry an entire crucible easily enough, even if he has to take breaks every now and then, I could just pile all the pellets into one crucible, then take the entire thing back.
05:03:56 Devastator: that said, I do need Benny here so I can get a real harness made for him.
05:04:06 Devastator: that sounds.. less than safe.
05:04:09 syv: As a bonus the crucible itself is probably shielding/
05:04:11 Devastator: and he might not be big enough for that.
05:04:23 syv: Added in a question about it.
05:04:26 Devastator: maybe leave it and try that post-upsizing, after we find someone to look at it.
05:04:50 syv: But it's your catbird, if you don't want me to try then I won't.
05:06:07 Devastator: I'd be ok with trying, but I'm uncomfortable leaving radioactives around without someone who knows what they are.
05:06:14 Devastator: of course, IC, I could plead ignorance and just let it happen.
05:06:25 Devastator: I am against hauling it out to the floating city, though.
05:06:33 Devastator: that's just wasteful. Need to haul out food and supplies.
05:06:46 Devastator: if you got space for it, that's fine, bring back whatever.
05:07:29 syv: Oh yeah, not to the floating city. That's just stupid.
05:07:53 syv: Was more thinking jamming it in a warehouse with the rest of the junk.
05:08:20 syv: Put a post-it note saying "Warning! Don't steal this or touch it, it is deadly poison!"
05:08:36 Devastator: Since we're going to be leaving it unattended for a while..
05:08:51 Devastator: well, if you get some mana, might summon something to guard it.
05:09:09 Devastator: I'm sure I could leave a few sacks of grain and a combat bird or something with orders.
05:09:09 syv: Yeah, try and animate the radiation itself.
05:09:25 syv: Make an invisible radiatiom golem that just murders anyone who comes close to mai lute
05:10:23 Devastator: Kinda is, in a city.
05:10:29 Devastator: Saeko's not really evil yet.
05:10:49 syv: I could tell it to just murder everyone even vaugely nearby, that'd be a worse idea.
05:10:58 Devastator: Gotta set up the proper evil fortress before making the absurdly lethal traps.
05:11:16 Devastator: well.. it's more that the loot isn't worth the lives, since if we keep one pellet seperate, all it takes is mana to make more of them.
05:12:53 Devastator: personally, making peace with that imprisoned painting guardian would make for a good guard.
05:13:08 Devastator: make a couple interesting paintings and he'd probably be ok with guarding.
05:13:11 Devastator: Or just see how it goes.
05:13:30 Devastator: I hope he can enter and leave other paintings. Be easy to keep entertained.
05:14:49 syv: Yes. Ekrov needs a snobby and violent art critic to complain about his schematics.
05:16:10 Devastator: I think he's a painted image of a noble turned into a fighter by magic.
05:16:16 Devastator: I'm sure that could hpapen.
05:16:21 Devastator: Probably be hilarious.
05:18:41 syv: Anything you want with me while I'm free and have an internet connection?
05:18:54 syv: Or should I just go work on woof again?
05:19:18 Devastator: wanted to talk about all that mana and cabal.
05:19:23 Devastator: and make sure you were ok with the movie.
05:19:32 Devastator: after that, yeah, woof would be good, please.
05:20:16 syv: Are you done talking about mana and Cabal?
05:20:44 Devastator: Mmm.. yeah, I think so.
05:20:56 Devastator: dunno about other stuff, but it can wait a few more turns.
05:21:08 Devastator: you should have at least three or four turns before I'd want Benny back.
05:21:10 Devastator: is that long enough for you?
05:22:06 syv: Yes, if it weren't for "oh yeah, here's ~200-300 mana if you spend three turns cutting up metal"
05:23:06 Devastator: I'll find a couple turns padding.
05:23:12 Devastator: test out the parachutes.
05:25:18 syv: I don't think I have more than two or three more turns worth of stuff. If I do one of those next turn along with the rest of the scrapping, that means I'll have three or four turns total.
05:25:34 syv: So three or four is "probably" enough.
05:26:46 Devastator: well, I can find padding if it looks like you need it.
05:26:57 Devastator: painting guardian, testing parachutes, etc.
05:28:55 syv: Does he have curved machetes as his weapons?
05:30:36 Devastator: don't remember, but no.
05:30:38 Devastator:
ER painted the guy.
05:30:57 syv: And he didn't make a DaS reference? For shame!
05:32:29 Devastator: but it was to-order.
05:32:41 Devastator: the first time his character got kidnapped.
05:34:17 syv: Note to self: get kidnapped by people with better taste.
05:43:46 Devastator: do you like jerky,
syv?
05:44:49 Devastator: there's a good jerky shop in town.
05:46:06 Devastator: make all their own jerky.
05:46:54 Devastator: been eating through their flavors for a couple weeks.
05:47:40 syv: My father makes homemade jerky every year, roundabout Christmas. Mostly only has one recipe, but it's *really* good.
05:48:45 Devastator: well, if you end up up here, I'll take you to the shop.
05:51:12 Devastator: that's how it is here, though.
05:51:36 Devastator: the best hamburgers in the region you can get out of a hole in the wall in a village a good ways south of town.
05:52:06 syv: The best food is made by people who care about making good food.
05:52:26 Devastator: it does make it sad when a really good place closes down, though.
05:52:32 Devastator: the best pizza shop closed years ago.
05:52:56 Devastator: the best ice cream stand closed some time ago.
05:53:01 Devastator: but there's a few newer places that aren't bad.
05:56:41 Devastator: ..come to think of it, a guy I grew up with owns a couple vegetable greenhouses now. I should look him up.
11:32:03 er: Dream: a sniper was trying to kill me. But she looked miserable out in the cold, so I gave her a hug. This would be a perfect position for her to stab me. Alarm goes off.
11:41:00 syv: Hey Egan, was she androgynous, or was she female?
11:41:25 syv: Me and
Dev are apparently arguing about your dream in secret PMs.
11:44:14 er: She started as a pretty generic trooper, but female.
11:53:55 er: What are you arguing about? :3
11:56:37 syv: Whether or not you'd refer to an ambiguously gendered character as "she", and therefore whether or not it was reasonable to assume the sniper you referred to as "she" was female.
12:04:51 er: That's a pretty gobliny thing to argue about.
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16:52:12 Devastator: or
syv could not understand what I say.
16:54:07 Devastator: I was just pushing back after
syv said something for the sake of arguing.
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21:35:00 ER: hell yeah if you get 400 gold you want to pile them into stats, you crazy? ;P
21:35:31 ER: how you gonna become a sexy shoeless god of war unless you level some?
21:37:41 ER: also, I was calling both of you golbins
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