02:55:47 Piecewise: Metal gear mech is done
02:55:58 Piecewise: optional thrusters still need to be made
02:56:07 Piecewise: and the bullets are still drying
02:56:21 Piecewise: needed to paint them gold since they came in black
02:57:26 Piecewise: Need to find some good reference images of moderately weathered ships....
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03:28:20 syv: I think that's what the Bioshock things were called, anyway.
03:28:58 Piecewise: Or at least something inspired by it
03:29:18 Piecewise: gonna have to see how the kit is engineered
03:30:31 Piecewise: So, cabal tinker continuing next turn?
03:30:58 syv: Haven't checked rhe thread yet though.
03:32:02 syv: Oh, been curious. Have you beaten Noita?
03:34:28 syv: Not really. I savescummed heavily one run, because I just wanted to see all the content, but the best I've ever done legit is flying in a panic through level 5, then dying near the bottom.
03:35:01 syv: Anyone who beats the game legit is seriously, seriously impressive IMO.
03:35:16 Piecewise: A lot of it comes down to getting the right stuff too
03:35:49 Piecewise: There are plenty of times I've reached deep and got fuck all in terms of spells and wands
03:36:01 Piecewise: eventually you just can't fight it
03:36:23 Piecewise: I'll do an attempt now
03:36:24 syv: Yeah, but even with great equipment it's a damn hard game. Especially the last level. Savescum run had several utterly bullshit wands and perks, and it was STILL an extremely dangerous area.
03:36:51 Piecewise: I've been down to the last boss and Christ those last levels
03:36:58 syv: There's a heavy luck element to be sure, but even if you have nigh perfect luck, you have to have real skill to win.
03:37:18 Piecewise: yeah its pretty goddamn uncompromising
03:38:56 Piecewise: I think daily runs are more randomized and potentially dangerous too
03:39:26 Piecewise: I'm doing the daily run and I started with a flask of fire
03:39:31 syv: Oh? I don't think I've even played one, actually.
03:39:38 syv: Is that the updated version?
03:53:00 Piecewise: it was in since the beginning
03:53:07 Piecewise: but new flasks are in the current version yeah
03:55:08 Piecewise: Died in the second level
03:55:13 Piecewise: fugging toxic sludge
03:55:48 syv: ...Heh. Your water was replaced with fire, of course.
03:56:55 syv: Started a daily run on my version, basic wand has 3x energy sphere, bomb wand has 10x magic missile.
03:59:19 syv: Since you're here, might as well ask a Cabal question. For my alchemist char, how hands-on does he need to be with something that he melts into thaum? Can he just dump something into a jar or whatever, and it does the thing? Or does he need to manually manipulate the material that he's thauming?
04:08:37 Piecewise: I answerd that in the thread already?
04:13:58 syv: That's actually pretty good.
04:14:18 syv: I'm very tempted to drink it...
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04:16:46 syv: Playing a Noita daily run, wondering if I can get deeper than Dubs.
04:18:08 syv: "Ooh, burstfire arrow wand, neat, I'll take tha--OHSHITSHITSHITSHIT"
04:18:53 MidJag: I'll still take acid over toxic sludge
04:19:22 syv: Toxic sludge turns into water when you douse it with water, it's totally better.
04:20:17 MidJag: Yeah, but when you don't have water it's awful.
04:20:33 MidJag: Acid at least goes away by itself
04:22:49 syv: Biggest rhing in favor of acid is that it's not vomited everywhere by enemies.
04:24:02 syv: First level, was going into the collapsed mines and got attacked by two bomber dropping from a higher level.
04:25:50 syv: And there's another daily?
04:25:58 syv: This one gives me bouncy balls and dynamite.
04:36:59 syv: Chaotic polymorphine can turn you into a tank that fires homing missiles, not surprising.
04:37:19 syv: Said homing missiles home in on alchemists, very aggressively.
04:37:28 syv: Including you after you revert.
05:03:59 Devastator: but not a holiday, I've been working almost all day.
05:07:04 Devastator: it's a holiday, but I spent most of my time today working.
05:12:25 Devastator: I see Cabal updated.
05:19:18 Devastator: If I'm undergoing continual stat-drain, I should try a strengthen spell to make it a temp effect instead of a permanent one. Then I'll be fine after two weeks is up, instead of staying weakened forever.
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05:49:08 Piecewise: I do enjoy the fact that people are buyign starwars model kits just to scavenge parts from them
05:49:17 Piecewise: There's such a lovely symmetry about this. Original starwars ships were created using random greebles ripped from model kits, and now starwars model kits are being scavenged for greebles for other kits.
05:50:42 Devastator: and also hilarious.
05:51:52 syv: It's the circle of models, I guess.
05:52:09 syv: Hey
Dev, I'm curious how you'd do on Noita's daily run today.
05:52:30 Devastator: I'll kill myself with fire.
05:52:36 syv: I'm totally saying that because I'm doing well on it now, and I'm competitive.
05:52:39 Devastator: There's no question.
05:53:10 syv: Apparently yesterday's daily run started the player with a flask of fire, at least in the updated version.
05:53:40 Devastator: so triple magic bolt and magic missile wand.
05:54:27 syv: Err, nope, that's not what I got!
05:54:35 syv: Maybe I did yesterday's seed twice.
05:54:42 Devastator: It might be tomorrow now.
05:55:00 Devastator: well, energy sphere.
05:55:20 syv: Oh, energy sphere. Yeah, that's yesterday's.
05:55:44 syv: 3x energy sphere, and 10 uses of (giant?) Magic Missile.
05:55:57 syv: There's a sodium flask somewhere in the first level.
06:01:59 Piecewise: By the way, you can right click to drink flasks
06:02:09 Piecewise: gotta right click on the flask though
06:08:04 syv: Yeah, I didn't try drinking it.
06:08:12 Devastator: rapid-fire lasers or mana bolt?
06:08:16 syv: Acid flask can be drank safely, so...
06:08:33 syv: High mana cap/regen, lasers. Low, bolts.
06:08:46 syv: Unless you have to discard one, in which case keep the lasers.
06:09:00 Devastator: it's pretty low cap. going on a 210/52 wand.
06:09:15 Devastator: have a 350/101, but that's a shot every .25 seconds.
06:10:30 syv: If it's a burst fire laser gun, it'd be more than okay.
06:10:48 Devastator: I have only one laser, so it'd be one laser every .25 seconds.
06:11:13 Devastator: or.. one manabolt, every .25 seconds.
06:11:27 Devastator: or one laser every .07 seconds, but it runs out after eight or nine lasers.
06:12:37 syv: If the .07 one is the 52 recharge one, I'd go with that.
06:12:53 Devastator: decided to ditch my primary so I can compare both of them.
06:13:35 syv: Ahh, now that's worrying. Wandering along, burrow upward into an unexplored cavern, find a wand pedestal with no wand.
06:14:00 Devastator: the burst-fire one is more inaccurate, but I have a scatter range minus option too.
06:15:48 syv: Proooobably not worth it unless the inaccuracy is really bad.
06:16:05 syv: Though I'unno, how much does scatter reduction cost?
06:16:24 Devastator: nah, the burst is more potent but not long enough.
06:16:40 Devastator: taking the minus-scatter wand on a new one loaded with fireballs in case I need bigger damage.
06:17:22 syv: Ohh, that's actually pretty awesome.
06:17:55 Devastator: and I'm dead from fire in about three seconds.
06:18:16 Devastator: for fucks sake, spawn on top of the cold spitter burster and then attacked from both sides.
06:18:46 Devastator: get hit when running, stunlocked, fall through half the level onto another cold spitting guy past about four skulls.
06:19:00 Devastator: kill that cold spitter, catch fire from the fireballs, die while spilling out water.
06:19:15 Devastator: Always the way, dammit.
06:20:32 Devastator: that was set up, wasn't it?
06:20:48 syv: Dubs got to L2, I died in L1.
06:20:49 Devastator: Never should have bought the powder removal one.
06:21:07 Devastator: huh, L1 and L2 were both really easy.
06:21:26 syv: Yeah, I got greedy and went into the collapsed mines, then got ambushed by two bomb throwers.
06:21:45 syv: Got hit by three bombs in short order, and caught fire, dead.
06:22:06 syv: I dunno how
Piecewise died, and he may have had a different map since his game is updated.
06:25:24 syv: Oh holy shit I've never seen THIS before
06:25:37 syv: "Magical temple", and there's an ANIMATED WAND attacking me
06:26:28 syv: A strong animated wand at that. It killed itself by shooting an ice shelf and dropping giant chunks on itself.
06:34:21 Devastator: no, can't buy it, ATM.
06:34:40 Devastator: .gog added two-factor authentication to my account there, and gmail locked out that e-mail address due to the phone number demand again.
06:35:27 Devastator: well, it'll be sorted tomorrow, prolly.
06:35:36 Devastator: Nah, I only log into gog about once a year.
06:35:47 Devastator: it probably got added in and enabled automatically some time during that year.
06:36:06 Devastator: google will let me in if I wait a week or two and try again.
07:02:11 syv: Welp, this run's finally gotten a proper doom wand. Standard variety, 0.01 cast/recharge laser wand, with 500 max mana and 153 recharge rate.
07:10:51 syv: Yeah, I need to upload this.
07:10:53 Devastator: did it blow you up?
07:13:36 syv: Ugh, what's with Noita and trying so hard to prevent screen recording?
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07:17:50 syv: I want to try it. I want to try it so bad.
07:18:05 syv: But, this is one of my best runs.
07:18:20 Devastator: nukes have a huge extra cast time.
07:18:24 Devastator: so it isn't an autonuke.
07:18:55 syv: Aw, you're right, they do.
07:19:26 syv: Still, I love that it put autocast extra damage on a burstfire nuke launcher.
07:20:24 syv: Do you think it'll work well if I use nuke with a sparkbolt trigger?
07:20:48 syv: Maybe with a forward/backward cast that launches a backward teleport...
07:22:22 Devastator: yeah, nuke on sparkbolt trigger would work.
07:22:28 Devastator: but use the 'hex formation' thing first.
07:22:44 Devastator: found three + healths and three wands in three minutes.
07:24:44 Devastator: caught fire while oiled and took 100 damage.
07:27:08 syv: Though, honestly, you seem a bit *too* flame prone.
07:27:52 syv: I shoot all fire sources on sight, then move in a different direction, in general. I also pre-wet myself against fire bugs and the pyromancer.
07:28:06 Devastator: it's mostly that I hardly ever take damage from something other than fire.
07:37:12 Devastator: 11 copies of Black Hole.
07:37:17 Devastator: well, I can now dig everywhere.
07:37:53 syv: You can go cheese westworld!
07:39:15 syv: Have you ever been to east lake, or west ???
07:39:52 syv: No, not the place called "Lake", the place called "East Lake".
07:40:40 syv: If you go past that, you can eventually get to the East Mines, and then go down in there and find powerups and wands and whatnot, plus a health restore and wand restore, just like in the normal Mines.
07:40:47 Devastator: what are you talking about?
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12:30:13 er: I like how my very first roll for magic is a 1.
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