00:25:46 Devastator: "Hey, didn't you die?"
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02:15:25 MJ: Yeah, just like lot of stuff getting done, and figuring out some grades stuff.
02:16:58 MJ: heh, thanks, it's mostly resolved now.
02:19:19 Devastator: Well, looks like griffon is sufficiently large.
02:20:22 Devastator: I am amused at that robbery.
02:20:29 Devastator: hormones, they can be a serious thing.
02:21:31 MJ: I just can't imagine possibly sitting through that
02:26:53 MJ: Why would the judge even want to be there? All he's doing is reading aloud.
02:31:07 Devastator: Anyway, off for a brief period, I'll be back on later.
03:03:54 Devastator: got some food together.
03:04:27 MJ: cool, so aside from the wolf what have you been up you to?
03:05:24 Devastator: Working my butt off mostly.
03:07:05 MJ: Ah, I can certainlly empahtize with that
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03:12:57 Devastator: Hmm, someone's busy with the historical revisionism.
03:13:22 Devastator: Quotes about the excess firepower of the Tanzanian forces early in the war.
03:13:50 Devastator: ..the linked article said they had one, which they picked up several weeks into the war, which they probably captured off the Lybians who had the only ones in the theatre.
03:14:06 Devastator: ie, they had to win a battle and steal one before having it.
03:14:29 ER: not sure what any of that means in context but okay
03:15:39 Devastator: up for some Overlord?
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04:00:28 ER: nice, logged back in right at midnight
04:05:25 MJ: I guess I can watch an ep or two.
04:05:42 Devastator: eh, mostly just want to keep things moving.
04:05:51 Devastator: if we drop it for too long might not pick it up again.
04:07:01 Devastator: I think we were on 6 or 7
04:07:28 Devastator: 6 opens with a picture of that beard wizard and a death knight.
04:07:33 Devastator: I think we saw that one.
04:07:43 Devastator: 7 opens with an adventuring party.
04:08:38 ER: I have a good memory for what I or haven't seen before
04:09:35 Devastator: 5 ends with the villagers visiting the Great Tomb.
04:09:47 Devastator: I know we saw that one.
04:10:22 ER: well, begin at your leisure then
04:11:35 MJ: I do not rember this man at all
04:12:04 MJ: Shouldn't he cast control undead?
04:12:13 Devastator: Rigrit Bers is one of the 13 heroes. And is still alive.. she was the person talking with the platinum dragon.
04:12:17 Devastator: It's the same spell, I guess.
04:12:30 MJ: See, now that's how you use undead.
04:12:39 Devastator: have them do the grunt work.
04:13:31 Devastator: Empire adventuring teams. Apparently the Empire has second-class adventurers. Nobody to match that top team from the Kingdom.
04:13:36 ER: what else would they call themselves
04:13:39 Devastator: Eh, he gets to call himself darkness.
04:14:00 MJ: I would call myself happy friendly party of fun times.
04:14:16 Devastator: Eight Ripples is a group of higher-level crafters, noncombat roles all.
04:14:18 ER: the music here is actually kinda awesome
04:14:25 Devastator: Did they change it?
04:14:40 MJ: You know, when I'm really tired this sounds way better.
04:15:47 MJ: So is ir physically possible for humans to learn Top level magic?
04:16:01 Devastator: Apparently caps are individual things.
04:16:36 Devastator: Not that elite. It was mentioned that the guys personally accompanying Gazef could beat knights one-on-one handily.
04:16:51 Devastator: So like level 4 or 5 characters, say.
04:16:53 ER: more elite on average, then
04:16:53 MJ: Ah, so good, but not elite.
04:17:02 Devastator: Gazef's dudes are about 10.
04:17:20 Devastator: What's his name again?
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04:17:34 MJ: I was jokeing about the Die being cast line
04:17:41 Devastator: we're watching Overlord atm.
04:17:51 syv:
MJ called me. Yes, I suppose.
04:18:00 MJ: huh, I was jokeing but he does look like Casera
04:18:27 Devastator: I'm okay with that nickname.
04:18:55 Devastator: That said, wasn't Caesar older?
04:19:11 Devastator: I think he looks more like Octavian.
04:19:24 MJ: I think he was like 30ish when took over Rome?
04:19:52 Devastator: Octavian had hair, I remember that.
04:21:08 Devastator: Maybe it's the beard that makes the wizard.
04:21:24 ER: all the summoned undead are cgi for some reason
04:21:25 MJ: Man, I would make a horrible wizard.
04:21:29 syv: When did a DK get captured?
04:21:43 Devastator: this isn't one of Ainz's.
04:22:05 MJ: Are we supposed to already know this
dev?
04:22:26 Devastator: Book. I think that came out some time ago.
04:22:28 ER: skeletons turning into zombies
04:22:31 Devastator: I think this stuff happens way back.
04:22:38 Devastator: Also, his english VA is way better.
04:22:39 ER: apparently a thing that happens despite making no sense
04:23:03 Devastator: undead raise when you have lots of dead bodies together. Dontcha know?
04:23:14 Devastator: I'm fine with Piccolo.
04:24:11 Devastator: I can't believe how good a deal I got on my speakers. I've had them a decade and they're still fantastic. And tiny.
04:24:16 ER: little crazy smile montage there
04:24:30 MJ: I wonder if there's a thing that makes nicknames easier to rember than names
04:24:45 syv: Nicknames are more relevant.
04:25:01 Devastator: might call empy Gus then.
04:25:17 MJ: Yeah, I could see that
syv.
04:25:40 Devastator: Yeah, you pick something you can remember already and concentrate on that.
04:26:55 Devastator: "The dice has already thrown"
04:27:32 Devastator: Eh, if he wasn't, someone woulda kicked him out by now. ;-p
04:27:51 Devastator: Does he have the Skill?
04:28:28 MJ: Tune in next week as Ainz attempts to handle two different people meeting him at the same time :P
04:28:42 Devastator: Grayhaired guy apparently fights with two shields.
04:29:46 Devastator: except shields and not swords.
04:29:46 MJ: He just needs shield chucks
04:30:15 Devastator: Where was this guy when shit was going down?
04:31:11 MJ: So, Blue is a gimmick fighter?
04:31:14 syv: Doesn't Brain usually use a katana?
04:31:46 Devastator: Sadly, he already has a nickname.
04:33:04 MJ: That man is incrediblly disintrested in that conversation
04:33:12 Devastator: okay, so we have Priest and..
04:33:37 MJ: ....How the hell are the other two dakr elves?
04:33:46 Devastator: Maybe she's a dark elf too.
04:33:47 MJ: They're nearly as pale as she is
04:34:05 Devastator: I think in the books it says they look more tanned.
04:34:50 Devastator: Could just be anime.
04:35:08 syv: he eyelashes are heavily overemphasized.
04:35:10 Devastator: The priest is named Roberdyck?
04:35:25 Devastator: So Priest, Bard, Shorty and Elf?
04:35:45 MJ: I bet elfs like a rouge or something
04:35:46 Devastator: Skinny guy looks like a bard to me.
04:35:56 Devastator: no, he's got two swords.
04:35:57 syv: The red spot in his hair looks like a growth.
04:36:04 Devastator: I think it's a feather.
04:36:15 Devastator: It was, back in the day. And probably is here.
04:37:19 MJ: THis sounds hilariously problematic for Ainz
04:38:03 syv: They'll get captured or killed before anything big comes of the ability.
04:38:22 MJ: I'm fucking impressed with that elf.
04:38:24 ER: guess these elves aren't poison resistan~
04:38:32 Devastator: Might have just powered through it.
04:38:41 MJ: Man, this is just poorly done.
04:39:26 MJ: Nah, the dialoge/charecteization
04:39:45 Devastator: Well, I don't mind it. Kid supporting her parents.
04:39:48 Devastator: I could see that, though.
04:40:25 Devastator: Hey, it might enter the plot.
04:40:56 MJ: So these dudes are freelancerS?
04:40:57 Devastator: Well.. two isn't a ton.
04:41:02 ER: giant smaurai swords look normal to me now
04:41:25 Devastator: pretty elfy for half.
04:41:31 MJ: Perhaps the full elf is part crystal or something weird.
04:41:53 syv: Especially considering she looks no less elf than the full elves that serve Ainz.
04:42:00 Devastator: Well, those are tiny.
04:42:12 MJ: Perhaps those are half dark elves
04:42:31 Devastator: ..Maybe they're pale from loving underground.
04:42:48 MJ: They're even alive and she can see the dude
04:42:57 ER: maybe dark elves just have souls of darkness or something
04:43:01 Devastator: but yeah, that's pretty elfy for a half-elf.
04:43:38 MJ: I just found that line really funny for some reason
04:44:01 Devastator: Maybe half elves look like elves, but full elves get magic powers or something.
04:44:03 ER: one of those lines was lacking a subtitle for me
04:44:17 syv: That does sound appropriately bullshit,
Dev.
04:44:22 ER: maybe half elves are more elfy than elves
04:44:30 ER: that was one random idea I had once
04:44:31 syv: Just Japanese taking a really long time to say things sometimes.
04:44:52 Devastator: one more? Looks like fighting next ep.
04:45:13 syv: I will if y'all do, but'd rather not...
04:45:30 Devastator: another time, then.
04:46:08 ER: basically my idea was that elves were the first humans with some connection to the fae, humans came later and have no connection, when they interbreed that connection goes a bit wonky and the result is someone very attuned to magic
04:46:40 Devastator: That's a bit like the setting in those Rothfuss novels.
04:46:44 Devastator: as I understand them..
04:47:49 Devastator: I want the third one so bad. I think I figured out some stuff on my last read through, and it's just making me amazed at the plotting.
04:48:25 Devastator: Name of the Wind and Wise Man's Fear.
04:48:39 Devastator: He wrote a brief story about a side character too, but that's not part of the main series.
04:48:48 syv: Send Rothfuss an email threatening to write fanfiction about Kvothe turning into a catgirl if he doesn't finish book three within the year.
04:50:01 Devastator: If I send one it'll be with all the stuff I guessed neatly wrapped up.
04:50:02 syv: What's the worst that could happen?
04:50:46 Devastator: If I did send him a letter, it would be with discussion about his dislike of Rendezvous with Rama, due to his personal point of view as opposed to that of a scientist.
04:50:55 MJ: huh, Spotify just started playing Metal and then transitioned to what I can only assume was like alt pop/pop punk in German. Weird.
04:51:14 Devastator: "I can't tell what era or setting these ruins are from." ;-p
04:51:20 Devastator: (no more spoilers though.)
04:51:34 Devastator: except he hated that it just ended with only a part of the story.
04:51:57 syv: It ended with an implication of more story being an option.
04:51:58 Devastator: I know that, but from his point of view it did.
04:52:02 MJ: oh yeah, that's a book I need to read
04:52:32 Devastator: Also, to a scientist, particularly an astronomer, the idea of only ever finding out a bit of a question during perhaps your entire lifetime is entirely normal and to be expected.
04:53:33 syv: RwR was a complete book IMO.
04:53:43 Devastator: Agreed, wholeheartedly.
04:53:52 syv: And from what I've heard of the sequels, I'm content just pretending they don't exist.
04:54:07 Devastator: Don't bother yourself. They aren't bad, but don't add anything.
04:54:32 Devastator: Rothfuss wasn't told that, though, and thought they were part of a complete work as well.
04:54:56 MJ: Would you recommend reading the book if you've already read the summary many years ago?
04:55:21 MJ: Cool, I'll add it to the list.
04:55:27 Devastator: It's also quite short.
04:55:39 Devastator: at least by modern standards.
04:55:44 MJ: I'll add it to the side list.
04:56:04 Devastator: And fantastic. I lost my copy a few years ago. Should buy or order another.
04:56:11 syv: Kinda short by any standards, isn't that shorter than The Hobbit?
04:56:37 syv: Page to wordcount is sometimes inaccurate, but I think that's ~90k, and Hobbit is almost precisely 100k.
04:56:46 Devastator: oh, RGU updated dungeon rush,
ER.
04:57:10 MJ: Hmm, I need to finish my medicore book if I'm ever going to gey anywhere on my list
04:58:42 syv: Yes, yes you need to do that.
04:59:16 MJ: It's just intresting enough I don't want to abandon it, but at the same time it's kinda mediorce.
05:01:00 MJ: When I got it, I bought two different books that had Mage in the title, this one and one called the innocent mage. The innocent mage one was actually really good at the very end.
05:02:54 Devastator: why would you say that?
05:03:51 syv: Hey
ER how far are you into Sekiro?
05:04:23 MJ: Oh, the dialect is extremlly Austrialian, and the entire plot is about the conflict between these two people groups who kinda came and kicked the other group off the land and to the outskirts because the first group left because they massivelly fucked up their own place.
05:04:30 ER: attempting to fight genechiro
05:04:47 ER: got to the stage where he gets all lightningy
05:05:01 ER: pretty far into the mount kongo area as well
05:05:29 syv: Lightning catching wrecks him once you figure it out.
05:05:56 ER: oh yeah, and beat the spooky guy below the dungeon, getting an item that I just realized is the blood bullet mechanic from bloodborne
05:06:01 syv: Oh. You can almost fully do Kongo, Sunken Valley, and the Depths before beating Genichiro.
05:06:55 syv: But yeah if you have too much trouble with Genechiro, just go do everything else to level up vit and attack power.
05:07:10 ER: I have found the sunken valley and ashina depths, not gone far into either
05:07:19 ER: because snek eyes in intimidating
05:07:22 syv: ...Though there's one boss that's just even worse, but is available.
05:07:42 syv: Snake Eyes is a descendant of the Okami women.
05:07:45 ER: found several minibosses that I haven't beaten yet
05:08:13 syv: This is only stated in a rare loading screen tip, to my knowledge.
05:08:29 ER: they make sure to tell me to use sabimaru on the descendants of the okami warrior women, and don't tell me who those might be.
05:09:11 syv: And Sabimaru generally kinda sucks, so you're unlikely to think to use it otherwise.
05:09:12 ER: THAT part is in a common loading tip AND sabimaru's description
05:10:34 ER: ...and they tell you that people who live in poison areas are resistant to poison, and you find a snek eyes dude in the clearly poisonous ashina depths
05:10:35 syv: Have you bought the floating passage martial art from the scale vendor?
05:11:16 syv: Works a lot like upgraded Sabimaru, but without costing any spirit emblems.
05:12:19 syv: All the other good martial arts use spirit emblems, and I don't get it. They're great once you're out, because they work regardless, but before then they're just... not worth it.
05:12:57 ER: oh yeah, I got an oppurtunity to send a dude to the "surgeon" in the dungeons to be disected or whatever, but I didn't because he seems like a nice guy.
05:13:52 syv: I resolved his quest line happily. Ish.
05:14:27 ER: I gave the fat guy his white flower and figured that would be enough to send him off to work for the merchant dude, but apparently not.
05:14:56 ER: just gives me an options menu with "refuse"
05:15:03 syv: Yeah, apparently his quest branches depending on which pinwheel you give him.
05:15:40 ER: I could have given him a red and white, but he wanted to pure white and now that's not an option...
05:16:02 ER: need something to knock him out or something, I guess
05:16:09 MJ: Give him a red white and blue, make him a true patriot :P
05:17:10 MJ: And on that banality, I shall take my leave.
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05:22:45 ER: this song was just in my head for some reason nd blue, make him a true patriot :P
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MJ> And on that banality, I
05:23:53 ER: this client automatically copies to clipboard anything I highlight, and automatically hits post when I paste anything with a line break in it
05:24:07 ER: you can see how these qualities don't mesh well sometimes
05:25:23 ER: gotta watch those mouse movements when I tab back -_-
05:30:50 Devastator: Ugh, I have no idea what's happening in Mook.
05:31:37 ER: though I've intentionally stopped paying attention because I'm currently not able to do anything
05:32:14 Devastator: Yeah. Too many people.
05:32:19 Devastator: Might drop it after the mission.
05:37:22 ER: eh, I'll wait for people to drop out then probably make a new character because my current one is broken.
05:38:09 syv: Is it that complex? Some people are wounded, either in the autoturret room, or by the parasite. A bunch of people are scrabbling around like idiots near the autoturrets, a couple are trying to deal with the parasite, I think everyone else is over in Lab 1 or in front of 2, which hasn't been breached yet. Or if it has, nothing of interest has been found.
05:38:39 syv: Current foals are to explore Lab 2, and to explore Lab 3, secondary goals are to kill the parasite, and get the Lab 3 people in order.
05:41:22 Devastator: I'm inside 2 and just finished exploring it with two other guys.
05:41:26 Devastator: and am wondering where the parasite is.
05:42:37 syv: It's in the main area between Lab 1 & 2, I thiink to the right. Precise location isn't exactly important due to the medium.
05:43:10 Devastator: I just went through there!
05:45:19 syv: What, you think
Piecewise is gonna describe everything from your character's perspective?
05:45:32 syv: With games like MOOK he just does one notable sight per turn.
05:48:57 Devastator: Oh, I'm fine with that, I just thought that looking for hostiles will have me find the hostile in the same room as me.
05:50:38 syv: Eh. Maybe I'm wrong about the precise location. It's where the dog thing was first spotted.
05:50:50 Devastator: jumped out of the dog, then, maybe.
05:51:08 Devastator: I'll just stick with these two guys and kill whatever's in front of us.
05:52:41 syv: ...No. It jumped out of a corpse that it had been clearly inhabiting, in a plade entirely separate from where the dog ended up.
05:53:04 syv: Ohh, I just remembered, the lab 3 guys found a hazmat tentacle zombie thing or something.
05:53:13 syv: I think it's killing them?
05:53:45 Devastator: I'm not going in lab 3 because I have no idea how the turrets work.
05:56:20 syv: They don't shoot anyone with a FoF identifier, or with a communicator running the FoF program. There's a seemingly infinite number of FoF identifiers outside Lab 3, in the area that we were investigating before we went into the room where we saw the dog.
05:56:32 syv: They shoot everyone without one of those things.
05:57:37 Devastator: Okay, whatever those are, then.
05:58:14 Devastator: I tried to pick one up and
PW said no.
05:59:19 ER: they're not unlimited but he sure as hell isn't keeping track of them and neither is anyone else~
06:01:26 Devastator: Well, won't bother then. Either they'll conquer it or it'll murder all of them and I'll get promoted through attrition.
06:04:33 syv: "It doesn't matter whether or not I know what's going on because I win regardless."
06:04:54 Devastator: Well, yes, the standard method in a
PW game of standing slightly off-screen when bad stuff happens.
06:07:04 Devastator: Gotta have others, though.
06:07:11 Devastator: if you go alone, that fate die doesn't help ya.
06:07:32 ER: I should just make that my action next time.
06:07:41 ER: "stand slightly off screen"
06:09:23 Devastator: Might roll fate to avoid damage that way.
06:10:07 Devastator: Only trouble with the 3 guard patrol I'm with is that we all have d4 stats for anything regarding electronics or machinery.
06:10:13 Devastator: so closed door going to remain closed.
06:10:46 ER: I was going to make a character with the gimmick of being somewhat compatant and professional, which probably means I have to dump Fate
06:13:42 ER: kinda disappointed that immortal warrior doesn't inexplicably gain more and more magical powers in order to teach more advanced techniques.
06:14:11 ER: instead he just kinda stops once he's done teaching you basic mechanics, at least it seems to me.
06:14:44 ER: I was looking forwards to having actually hard battles against him.
06:15:32 ER: just kinda sucks because the only enemy I currently have to test lightning reversal on is the second phase of a difficult boss.
06:16:11 ER: So the game's kinda just expecting me to pull it off for the first time in the middle of open combat.
06:16:11 Devastator: That would be annoying.
06:16:26 syv: Yeah, he just does basic stuff that it's reasonable for him to do. Hell, my headcanon is that some of his simple techniques are taught to him by wolf, just so he can practice fighting against them.
06:17:20 syv: At least Lightning Reversal is really quite simple. Genichiro has a huge tell for it, and you just jump upward when the WARNING DEATH thing pops up.
06:17:44 syv: Though I forget if he had any delay to it, I only managed it twice, and that was the time I won. :\
06:17:54 ER: he doesn't do anything that the slightly more skilled early trash mooks do. Except maybe those don't do thrusts or sweeps?
06:19:26 ER: but I'm pretty sure that his big multi-hit combo to teach you consequtive deflections is just taken from basic enemies.
06:19:50 ER: I mean, it's basically the same as the naked hollow dance too :P
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06:27:45 syv: Sweep and thrust indeed are the odd moves. Not 100% that the mooks don't also do thrusts, but I don't think they do.
06:27:51 syv: And his sweeps + thrusts are, of course, bad.
06:28:03 syv: His grab is also unique to him, I think.
06:28:31 ER: hirata mooks definately thrust sometimes
06:28:51 ER: is that even a grab? it's more of a tackle.
06:29:28 ER: I think all real grabs show the perilous attack symbol
07:04:46 syv: Sekiro has a massive difficulty bump right at the end.
07:05:31 ER: I look forwards to doing 20 frame perfect deflections in a row just to eat the first pip
07:06:14 syv: The area before this one was just great, tough enemies that could be fought quickly if 1v1'd, with complex level design that lended itself to hit-and-run stealth to whittle them down, choosing your battles and using tools creatively.
07:07:09 syv: The basic melee enemies, even if fought carefully so I don't lose much health, still take a long time to kill. They take virtually no posture damage from anything aside from parries and HP damage, and heal decently quick.
07:07:27 syv: They don't hit that much harder than other enemies, but last much longer.
07:07:53 syv: AND they have eagle eyes, in a level design that just makes stealth very difficult, while they're crammed in all together.
07:08:19 syv: It's a slog to go through, and if I want to conserve health I basically just shouldn't fight them.
07:09:29 syv: Tons of money which I don't need, a fair number of consumables that I don't use, some resource materials that I have plenty of.
07:09:52 syv: Lots of EPs, but the previous area is way faster for leveling, and my next upgrade costs nine points anyway...
07:10:24 syv: Also, one of their elites spawned in a fire and died of natural causes.
07:10:46 syv: Which took like ten minutes, while I was slowly working up to him.
07:14:22 syv: Well, found the end boss of this section. I suddenly recall Dubs talking about an optional boss that he still took damage from on a perfect parry, and, uh, this one fits the bill.
07:14:34 syv: I'm guessing that entire area was optional.
07:36:49 syv: Also, their ranged units have fucking rocket launchers and flamethrowers.
07:37:41 Devastator: New Awful Hospital.
07:37:48 Devastator: Looks like hamburger door on surgical ward.
07:38:11 Devastator: Weren't they taking over the downing ship that is the non-parliament universe at the moment?
07:39:45 syv: Their boss isn't a mecha, it's a Bloodborne boss.
07:40:47 ER: it's a game set in japan and made in japan, surely they put a mech in there somewhere
07:42:23 Devastator: might be a bio-mech.
07:42:31 syv: Sorta, but it was earlier.
07:42:37 syv: Also completely random and weird.
08:00:12 Devastator: Also Ferp's hair is still dark green.
08:52:17 ER: good boys who go down with just a single shuriken to the face
08:52:46 ER: I really appriciate how they make it easy to stealth clear things
09:02:25 ER: maybe sekiro dlc will have cats
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20:03:46 ER:
syv, it says that snek eyes are decendants of the okami on a key
20:04:13 ER: just picked it up in the castle
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