00:00:22 ER: and asshole mages shooting at you
00:00:41 ER: different in that the boss is hard, though~
00:00:58 Devastator: Personally, I would have tried running on that second rope to bounce off of that magikoopa.
00:01:28 Devastator: I think you coulda made it back up to the rope.
00:02:01 Devastator: but ryu just gives no fucks.
00:30:28 Devastator: clearly by -gameplay they meant minus gameplay.
00:32:03 Devastator: I gotta get the timeline together.
00:39:34 ER: "Just next to the necromancer ruin you find what you believe is an anime graveyard. A large field has been cleared in the forest and several dozen mounts with oversized and quite silly swords stuck in them have been erected. Somehow there seems to be a perfect beam of sunlight illuminating each and every one. "
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00:45:59 syv: Need to watch movies with more war shooting, less war drama.
00:46:04 ER: really just thought of more silly things to add to my magic system >.>
00:46:23 syv: Thanks for updating Tachell and Vessel.
00:46:42 syv: I'm a little surprised with myself with how interested I am in the vessels themselves.
00:46:45 ER:
PW's SG mentioned kinetic energy redirection so then I had to add that.
00:47:21 syv: I figured I'd just suppress my vessel and ignore it, but now I'm regretting making Voice fractured and Resolve Proficient.
00:47:43 syv: Get the feeling suppression will be the only IC option, since Vu isn't good with humans and is a fleshorror besides.
00:49:54 ER: He's certainly the weakest willed of them all, and he ended up with the flesh horror
00:52:18 syv: The invisible non-interactive antisocial fleshorror. With a very bent perception of intelligent beings.
00:52:39 syv: At least Vu is relatively nice, I guess.
00:58:16 syv: Do the vessels get their bodies back after the angels are done with them?
01:03:17 ER: but it does mean that you lose nothing by getting your bodies killed in the mission. You are immortal, and they're doomed anyway.
01:04:03 syv: Nothing to lose means victory is meaningless.
01:15:44 syv: You try Hyper Light Drifter?
01:19:38 ER: the idea for the magic system though, is that just like you can release mana from your pool, you can absorb other types of energy into your mana pool.
01:19:53 ER: But you can't hold on to it very long.
01:20:28 syv: Oh? So you could catch an opponent's lightning bolt, and turn it into a fireball to throw back?
01:20:49 syv: Or, like, light a fire and absorb the energy to channel into a healing spell?
01:21:15 ER: So if someone swings a hammer at you, you can catch it in your hand and absorb the kinetic energy with the right words, but unless you shunt that kinetic energy out of your body, it'll be unleashed randomly inside of you, which is probably bad.
01:21:57 syv: So no changing the form of absorbed energy?
01:22:04 ER: so, hmm, it doesn't become mana when you absorb it, and you can't change it.
01:22:08 syv: Is it impossible to do this if you're already full of mana?
01:22:22 ER: Oof, changing the energy type would be FUN though
01:23:19 syv: Let an enemy stab you with their sword so you can get an attack in, and on their second stab absorb the energy and change it into a healing spell to fix the first stab.
01:23:30 syv: That would be OP but very cool.
01:24:35 ER: also, the problem with getting stabbed is that it doesn't need a lot of energy to hurt you. :P
01:24:52 syv: Systemizing the conversion rates would be a bitch, but you don't have to do that really. Iffy feely conversion rates are fine.
01:25:13 syv: It'd work better against a warhammer, I suppose.
01:25:37 ER: You also can't just "let yourself" get stabbed unless they happen to hit one of your ports. Hands, feet, fingers, eyes, and vocal cords
01:26:13 ER: It's more like a VERY showoffy unarmed magic parry :P
01:26:15 syv: Hum. It'd be pretty neat/weird if two absorb mages fought each other, constantly trading blows and absorbing the energy before returning it, building up more and more energy in each attack until one of them flubs their "catch" and just explodes.
01:26:59 syv: Systemizing that would be *weird*.
01:28:39 syv: Hrrrnn. Desire to make an unarmed duelling system centralized around magic martial arts techniques and absorption/return of energy, rising.
01:29:01 syv: Can't update my own game, desire to make other games too strong. :|
01:35:29 Devastator: yay, I.. failed again in Arcane Fuckery.
01:35:32 Devastator: did find something, thoguh.
01:38:22 ER: I'm going to make a self-propogating sentient explosion.
01:38:50 ER: (not sure what else I can do with the local resources yet, though)
01:39:28 ER: The idea is that I'll make one designed just to gobble up explosives and reproduce
01:39:54 ER: then once I have a lot of them I can modify them into more useful forms
01:40:10 syv: This is not how explosions work, but okay.
01:40:53 ER: Already successfully made one explosion elemental, this is just the next logical conclusion~
01:41:58 Devastator: I just want to not-fail something.
01:42:14 Devastator: I mean, sure I've had three turns of nothing but ones, but why not? ;-p
01:48:51 Devastator: No cat vessels, sadly.
01:49:00 Devastator: Any of them particularly interesting?
01:49:09 syv: I could make my vessel into a cat.
01:49:59 Devastator: Aren't you the guy who does nothing but fly around invisibly?
01:50:15 syv: Yes, but I'm also a full on fleshorror.
01:50:36 Devastator: I'm also liking Dave.
01:50:39 syv: Vu's powers are fleshorror, invisibility, short range teleportation, and being very quiet.
01:50:57 syv: Mine is afraid and mostly undetailed due to Vu's... lack of humanity. One is apparently a strong willed heretic of some kind, and another is really into dying for a holy cause.
01:51:45 Devastator: Although the twos might be somewhat less than ideal.
01:52:39 Devastator: Tir's got a magical girl, always good.
01:54:00 Devastator: Hmm, and Dhalia's powerful with long black hair. And inhabited by an angel with more power than restraint.
01:55:11 ER: do any of them have more restraint than power?
01:57:25 syv: Vu has a lot of restraint, at least for a force.
01:57:39 ER: yay time to have 8 individual conversations at once with highly varied supernatural creatures from the point of view of 8 different poor little mortals
01:57:40 syv: A personality of "Sit back and watch idly" implies lots of restraint.
01:58:31 ER: I GM. I do more work than all players combined. Is good job.
01:58:40 Devastator: Yeah, that's generally how it goes.
02:24:35 ER: my controller might be a bit on the fritz
02:27:17 ER: and now it's back to working
02:29:20 ER: oh, maybe it's just how Hyper Light Drifter reacts when I tell it I'm using a PS4 controller when actually I'm using a PS3 controller pretending to be an Xbox 360 controller
02:33:19 ER: okay, so that was probably just software weirdness
02:34:48 ER: existing problem still stands where clicking the left stick while holding it in a direction will occasionally count as an input for... the face buttons, L1 and R1, and the dpad
02:35:04 ER: which has gotten me killed in Dishonored 2
02:35:31 ER: try to run and instead cast far reach, launching me into full view of the enemies!
02:37:51 ER: oh well, HLD does not seem to use the sticks, so it's fine for this game
02:38:25 ER: it does use the sticks. It seems to be kinda a central part of the game, really
02:43:24 syv: Yeah. No stick clicking as far as I've played, but lots of stick *aiming*.
02:54:33 Devastator: Writing ben's adventures in feathers right now.
02:56:02 ER: well shit, can't stream this
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03:49:17 syv: Largely due to sleep deprivation, partially due to not updating my game.
03:50:08 syv: Lack of sleep largely deprives me of my force of will, and without force of will my mood generally defaults to mild melancholy.
03:50:40 syv:
ER seems to be enjoying the game I sent him, though, so that's nice.
03:51:06 Devastator: sent you the thing.
03:51:10 Devastator: I didn't like it that much.
03:51:46 syv: Yeah, I saw. Read the last paragraph, it made me roll my eyes, and I'm not in the mood to enjoy that kinda writing anyway.
03:51:47 Devastator:
syv ben's encounter with the lovebird.
03:52:02 Devastator: I didn't have any real motivation.
03:52:23 syv: "I sent
syv Ben's encounter with Nanami's giant succubus-trained bird."
03:53:21 syv: Yeah, it's a good game, isn't it?
03:53:44 syv: I sent it to
Dev awhile ago, figuring he'd really like it, but he's refused to even try it.
03:53:59 ER: realized that I don't have to aim before shooting :P
03:54:40 syv: If you care at all I'll buy it for you on Steam. Don't think you can preserve progress or anything, but I offer simply because the
dev deserves money for it.
03:54:50 MJ: spray and prey tends to be fun :P
03:55:21 syv: *"Pray", and it's not inaccurate. You just don't need to use the aim key.
03:56:57 ER: only needed to use, heh, two of my heals >.>
03:57:01 syv: Which area are you in? Birds?
03:58:00 syv: Birds are pretty simple. Toads and wolves get a little more complex, while robots have absurd bosses.
03:58:24 ER: but the real dark souls begins here
03:58:27 Devastator: Sorry. Maybe I'll try it next weekend.
03:58:41 Devastator: the real dark souls begins here.
03:59:51 syv: What kind of thingy? There's a lot of thingies.
04:00:23 ER: right triange world center thingie
04:00:44 syv: Ohhh. Much better. That's for progression, the tan chips are just money.
04:01:13 ER: yeah, already got 1 1/4 of those
04:01:43 syv: Keep a look out for a specific kind of faded square on the ground.
04:02:10 syv: Almost always near secrets. You'll see eventually.
04:02:37 ER: mostly just been jumping towards anything that looks like floor
04:04:54 syv: There's hidden floors and intangible walls/offscreen passages, too.
04:05:35 syv: I personally rather dislike that style of hiding secrets, especially since there's a fair amount of content essentially locked behind finding them, but that's mostly assuaged by all of them having the hint symbol.
04:08:02 MJ: Yeah I hate secrets that are just trial and error]
04:12:11 syv: Game has *lots* of nonlinearity and branching paths.
04:14:57 syv: REALLY complicated and with lots and lots of loops, plus multiple underground layers which are pretty much everywhere on the map.
04:14:58 ER: okay those explode when you hit them
04:15:09 syv: Makes finding everything exhausting.
04:17:40 syv: Ahh, that's a different kind of progression item. If you get a lot you'll be able to unlock cosmetics, which are probably the least valuable reward.
04:18:02 syv: Some neat areas too, key areas are some of the hardest platforming.
04:21:25 ER: bird cultists are adorable~
04:26:56 syv: After you get some money--I forget how much, two complete pieces maybe?--you can buy iframes for your dodges. Sorta.
04:27:26 ER: it's three, and I have that many now
04:28:20 syv: You'll be able to afford everything eventually. I'd say the shieldframes are the best investment at first, but there's other stuff that could be worth it.
04:28:50 syv: Gun efficiency is always good, and there's another shop that sells rechargeable grenades, which are... fiddly but useful sometimes.
04:28:51 ER: also the sword upgrade to block bullets
04:29:05 syv: Oh yeah, that's very important later.
04:29:28 syv: Sword heavy attack is probably better for the birds though.
04:32:11 syv: "By downloading this game, you agree to the following: [six different hyperlinks follow]"
04:32:54 syv: It's also 21 GB, which is irritating. Modern games are too damn big.
04:40:43 ER: my character did the sword-twirl thing before the last enemy was dead?
04:41:30 MJ: he's just that confident they are already dead
04:41:36 ER: well that one was just swarms of birds
04:48:13 ER: I got a triange behind a secret wall
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04:51:40 syv: Yes
ER, some triangles are hidden in the secret areas.
04:52:20 syv: I think you only *need* four out of eight triangles in each area, though I haven't completed the game myself, and I'm a completionist who always hunts downnthe eighth anyway.
04:53:52 ER: also, seem like I provoked a screen full of bird cultists from offscreen and they all jumped off of ledges.
04:57:35 ER: don't make crows the bad guy, game
04:57:58 syv: There's some good birds in the town.
04:58:11 syv: There's at least one good bird on the mountain, too.
04:58:27 ER: but those birds aren't the crows
04:58:57 syv: They aren't? Eh, sure, been a while since I played.
05:00:20 ER: there's the single ominous crow at the center of the world, and having picked up my four triangles I get subjected to a cutscene and when I wake up there are three flickery black birds by my body.
05:02:28 MJ: Hmm, just having a giant bird at the center of the world sounds kinda awesome actually
05:10:31 ER: yay I haz six upgrade thingies
05:14:04 syv: Apparently the secret markers were added in a patch. Originally there was no hint at all, which presumably meant you just had to exhaustively jump off every ledge and run into every wall to find all the secrets, Mario style.
05:14:29 syv: Or look at a guide I guess.
05:15:37 Devastator: more like donky kong contry style.
05:15:49 Devastator: where you had to haul a barrel to each wall, check every pit..
05:15:56 Devastator: albeit most of them had a banana to mark the way.
05:16:21 Devastator: Back in the day I missed two on my own.
05:16:22 MJ: That sounds horrible before that patch
05:16:40 ER: what is this slab with lights on it
05:16:42 Devastator: one where you have to drop off a rope in the middle of a huge pit, and one where there was a secret in another secret.
05:18:03 ER: it didn't light up any of my things or anything
05:18:30 syv: I say Mario style because I remember sitting and watching my sister play like that, and not understanding what she was doing at all.
05:18:56 syv: It's now forever lodged in my brain that Mario secret searching is "jump into every fucking wall".
05:19:14 syv: It lit itself up, it doesn't need to light up any of your stuff~
05:19:38 Devastator: Mario doesn't do the invisible wall thing.
05:22:13 syv: Maybe my sister was just an idiot then. *shrug*
05:24:34 Devastator: There's plenty of other games that did the invisible wall thing.
05:24:59 ER: why can't I open this four-triangle door despite having four triangles?
05:28:18 syv: Ah, need to activate the big column thing first. Basically, complete the first branch of the area.
05:31:06 ER: they really nest those secrets huh
05:31:18 ER: secrets INSIDE secrets aren't marked, pretty sure
05:32:41 syv: I can't recall that happening, but I might've just missed it. Or felt it was all one secret.
05:34:44 ER: damn, charge blade is beastly
05:36:26 syv: It's often too slow to be useful, though. But when you *can* figure out a way to use it, it's phenomenal.
05:36:36 syv: This boss is rather difficult.
05:36:51 syv: Actually harder than wolf and frog bosses I think.
05:43:19 MJ:
ER is apperentlly goof at killing small animals.
05:45:29 ER: really just killing things in general~
05:49:03 Devastator: found a rom for Terranigma.
05:49:40 MJ: Actually now I'm curious, what exactlly is a rom
05:50:09 Devastator: The data on a cartridge, basically.
05:50:17 Devastator: It's the thing that goes into an emulator to play a game.
05:50:51 syv: It's the data put onto a game cartridge which contains the game.
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05:57:52 Devastator: well, that's one way to avoid allowing you to say bye.
06:06:48 Devastator: I'm sad at having to burn an anti-entropy fragment in Arcane Fuckery.
06:06:58 Devastator: I'd love to turn that into something.
06:07:37 Devastator: but I'd like.. something, you know?
06:09:50 Devastator: also miffed at rolling 14 on 2d10.
06:12:52 ER: still not entirely sure how to use the sniper gun
06:14:40 ER: but that's what the other gun does!
06:14:56 syv: It does double damage, overpenetrates, and has extended view range when aimed IIRC.
06:15:26 syv: It's also more accurate due to the aiming line, and doesn't have the travel time.
06:15:54 Devastator: shoot the gun at things.
06:16:08 syv: It can't spray bullets like a machine gun, but aside from that it's pretty much just better than the basic gun.
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21:06:49 Radio_Controlled: Good evening you phlegmatic pygmies.
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22:00:03 Radio_Controlled: First time I come onto irc again and this is what I'm treated to?
22:03:58 Piecewise: You want instead me to assault you with model kits and demand an opinion on what I should build next?
22:04:18 Piecewise: I can't spam porn like on discord
22:05:02 Radio_Controlled: Build a birdhouse next.
22:05:11 Radio_Controlled: Out of spare model parts.
22:05:19 Radio_Controlled: Gundam birdhouse.
22:07:43 Piecewise: I have enough model runners here from the storm tyrann that I could build something from them
22:08:04 Piecewise: there were runners a-z, then japanese characters, then special runners and polycaps
22:10:26 Radio_Controlled: Go make a sparrow happy.
22:14:00 Piecewise: I found this right now as you were telling me that
22:14:07 Piecewise: The universe provides
22:14:53 Radio_Controlled: "I found this right now"
22:15:09 Radio_Controlled: As if you didn't just search your private collection.
22:15:55 Piecewise: I'm reading that manga and I swear like every chapter ends with 8 or so pages of one offs about massaging boobs or some very specific circumstance.
22:17:05 Radio_Controlled: Where other perverts try to hide their obsession, some turn it into an artform.
22:18:00 Radio_Controlled: These people should be removed.
22:18:01 ER:
syv sent me a torrent for hyper light drifter
22:18:36 Radio_Controlled: Never heard of it I think.
22:20:34 Piecewise: you drift some light
22:21:01 ER: finally found all eight of the thingies in the bird place
22:21:26 ER: I only started playing this last night so I think I might be a little skilled at this?
22:26:07 Radio_Controlled: You have found your true calling in life.
22:26:22 Piecewise: its this one vidya game
22:26:41 Radio_Controlled: Go forth and hyper light drift into your destiny.
22:27:07 Radio_Controlled: Welp, I should go to bed.
22:27:37 Radio_Controlled: G'night you bird collaborators, stay strong and keep yer pants on.
22:27:56 Radio_Controlled: AND NO MASSAGING.
22:28:02 Piecewise: I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW
22:28:33 Piecewise: I bought sekiro on steam today
22:28:46 Piecewise: after finally getting some refunds
22:29:03 Piecewise: Now to wait impatiently for several days
22:30:35 Piecewise: I know 100% I'm gonna buy it
22:31:10 Piecewise: today or thursday makes little difference
23:02:48 Piecewise: and so I can preload
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