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01:07:41 ER: in which we discover that cars don't know that guns can kill them.
01:10:12 Devastator: Tornado kill anything?
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01:20:18 MidJag: not bad, it's cold as hel here like 37F and supposed to reach like 30 later tonight.
01:20:34 Devastator: That doesnt' count as cold at all, you know.
01:20:40 Devastator: but good luck surviving the blizzard. ;-p
01:20:49 Devastator: Do stay off the roads if they get icy, though.
01:23:20 MidJag: Shouldn't be an issue, if the roads get icy they just cancel class.
01:24:25 MidJag: ....not that I drive to class either way, but still.
01:30:05 MidJag: A lil hunter also known as whenver I play melting, oh god I hope I find boiling veins before I get to him.
01:53:03 Devastator: It's not so much that you can't handle ice, it's that nobody else could. ;-p
01:53:46 ER: gotta get good at dodging before you go out on an icy day in the south :I
01:55:40 Devastator: Ice is easy. Brake early, well early, before you stop, and don't brake much when turning. To regain grip, hit the gas for a moment.
02:01:19 Devastator: Searching that drider game for the word 'purple' shows that it only looked like the colour of the guy's soul and that glowy sign marker.
02:10:23 MidJag: It must be stramge dirving in the norht
02:15:20 Devastator: I mean, if the ice is really bad you don't want to go anywhere, but a fairly moderate amount isn't a big deal.
02:20:31 Devastator: and the roads are only snow covered maaaybe four months of the year.
02:56:43 Devastator: Want to watch something? Could start on a bit of AoT.
02:56:48 Devastator: I know
syv wasn't that interested in it.
02:59:21 MidJag: maybe. I might be busy later. not entierlly sure
03:02:38 Devastator: okay. Getting some food together.
03:02:45 Devastator: (It won't be six hours worth of shows.)
03:17:21 ER: 24 hour dumb anime marathon
04:27:47 Piecewise: did you know that Shield Hero has a party member thats a giant fluffy kick boxing bird?
04:29:49 Devastator: (I want a source image for that griffen.
04:29:51 ER: pics or it didn't habbended
04:30:24 Devastator: The beast chimera from DSIII.
04:30:31 Devastator: that'd be about the goal.
04:48:27 Devastator: Yeah, someone's been eating a bit too much.
04:52:00 Devastator: I'm not sure that can kickbox.
04:52:04 Devastator: I think it can manage sitting.
04:53:18 Devastator: That might make it harder to hurt, but..
04:56:38 Devastator: I meant the sword or whatever would get stuck in the feathers.
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05:02:12 Piecewise: It should be noted that Shield Hero also has the protagonist get back at a lady who betrayed him by getting her name legally changed to "Bitch"
05:02:52 syv: Why is Dubs around here so much lately?
05:02:57 Devastator: Overlord should do that sometime.
05:03:05 Devastator: Change someone's name.
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05:05:47 syv: Actually, old as hell. A reference to Runescape, which I played around a decade ago.
05:07:09 ER: I'd like to thank you for additional Sophia-based content
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05:07:32 ER: it was probably funny but I didn't laugh
05:07:56 syv: If it what was funny, how was it enjoyable?
05:08:24 ER: There was a moment of triumph, finding where the fecking keys go~
05:08:53 ER: also, I don't have to make any difficult decisions right now! hoorayy
05:09:02 syv: There's some bit NPC fairly early on, a mage in a tower who seems basically incapable of using pronouns, and uses weird semi-corrupted compound words instead. He's also insane.
05:09:10 MidJag: Hey figuring out how keys work can be quite the acomplishment in certain states of mind
05:09:30 syv: He always greeted the player with " 'Ello, Thingamuwhats!"
05:09:35 Devastator: Ahh, now I know you're a college student. ;-p
05:11:16 ER waves his arms in the air like a skeleton
05:15:09 ER: amazingly, listening to one song makes me want to bolt extra stuff onto my already frankenstein game
05:16:08 syv: Bolt tactical hostage rescue teams onto it.
05:16:45 ER: because hey wouldn't an actual training labrynth be cool
05:17:05 MidJag: .....That's actually a really cool image. What's the attacker side?
05:18:00 syv: The cast of Magia Record, which is apparently related to PM3, but won't be out until later this year.
05:18:58 MidJag: Probably. But we are still going to end up watching it somehow I'm sur
05:19:13 Piecewise_: casting won't finish for a whole year
05:19:38 ER: real years or caster-years?
05:19:55 ER: these things go faster with multiple casters
05:20:34 ER: just slot in new apprentices as they die, no big deal
05:21:40 MidJag: huh, the MR MG's look a little bit like PM3 MGs
05:21:54 MidJag: Are they like alternate universe versions or something?
05:22:02 syv: Maybe because MR is directly related to PM3.
05:22:11 syv: Different characters, same universe.
05:22:26 MidJag: Might suck, but hey might be cool
05:22:35 ER: who's making it is the question
05:22:45 MidJag: That's an excellent question
05:24:26 ER: well, more than one person can wear a butcher's hat.
05:24:36 ER: which is a good excuse to be optimistic!
05:25:43 MidJag: ...huh, so MR is a game based off PM3 which then got it's own anime
05:25:45 syv: Not ready. Fooding, done soon.
05:26:31 MidJag: That's very strange and not really increasing my hopes for quality
05:27:31 syv: Not finding info on who's writing/directing the anime.
05:28:20 syv: The game was apparently by "Magica Quartet", which seems to be a generic term for "People what work on PM3 things"
05:29:19 syv: Combination VN / 3x3 board based turn by turn fights. Units have row/column/singletarget/area attacks.
05:29:42 syv: Phone game too, which indicates even less quality.
05:29:45 MidJag: Man that's a hard word to spell
05:29:57 syv: Isn't fire emblem about moving units on a big area?
05:30:32 MidJag: So a smaller tithger fire emblem
05:31:04 ER: ITB makes good use of a 8x8 grid, but 3x3 seems too minimalist for real strategy.
05:31:05 syv: Nah, it's about arranging your formation to counter whatever types of moves enemies have, I think.
05:31:37 MidJag: Which Fire emblem? Or MR>?
05:32:03 syv: The only Fire Emblem I've played had units moving around, with walls and dungeons and stuff.
05:32:07 ER: FE is advance wars except your dudes are persistant and also anime dudes
05:32:28 syv: Whatever the version on 3DS was.
05:33:17 syv: I know it also involves breeding your anime dudes to receive optimal children, which is hilarious.
05:33:42 ER: I only played the sacred stones on my 3DS. Was a GBA game ported to the 3DS and I got it free because I got a 3DS at launch.
05:33:44 Devastator: incest improves most games.
05:34:03 MidJag: Is that insect though? Or just selective breeding?
05:34:27 syv: ...I have no idea if it involves incest. It's Japanese, so I guess, maybe?
05:34:43 Devastator: I'm sure it does. ;-p
05:34:50 Devastator: If not by you, by the bad guys.
05:34:54 syv: Insect breeding would be interesting, though perhaps less funny.
05:35:08 ER: It's also Nintendo, so I think it only gets as close as "kinda maybe" insest.
05:35:32 MidJag: I do that sometimes, it's pretty interesting, but not particularly funny.
05:36:00 ER: no, he does "kinda maybe" insest
05:36:51 Devastator: Heh, here's your broken Mugen character. ;-p
05:37:34 MidJag: heh, yeah, my lab does genetics testing on flys. To do that you need to breed them...and then kill them and analyze them.
05:37:55 syv: Someone probably has a fetish for that.
05:38:26 Devastator: I think we're all ready.
05:38:34 MidJag: Finding headphones nearlly there
05:39:35 ER: gotta squish the flies and squeeze the genes out of them
05:40:01 MidJag: ...That's actually kinda how it works
05:41:33 ER: alrightnow 3, 2, 1 let's jam
05:42:06 Devastator: dammit, I missed it. Was just a moment behind.
05:42:18 Devastator: just say something when the intro ends and I'll catch up.
05:42:37 Piecewise_: Well, I have this system ready except for the items. Just need to get that done and then create the OP
05:42:43 Piecewise_: but I am tired so bed for now
05:42:51 Devastator gives PW a thumbs up.
05:43:21 syv: Of course the OP is a recap.
05:43:34 syv: Did PM3 have ANY recaps at all?
05:43:48 MidJag: ....Did I miss the start?
05:43:50 Devastator: The last thirty seconds of ep 10
05:43:54 Devastator: I think I jumped the gun.
05:44:02 ER: I did notice that the overlord recaps were a little less overbearing
05:44:22 syv: 1:40 is end of recap, I think.
05:44:35 MidJag: I think overlord may just be better.
05:44:47 Devastator: not disagreeing with you there.
05:44:57 MidJag: are at least better paced
05:45:01 Devastator: The last thirty seconds of ep 10 were the best recap in anime history.
05:45:07 Devastator: ..the part that shows the introduction.
05:45:43 syv: We start from there when
ER gets his comp in order.
05:45:50 Devastator: watch until 1:40 this time.
05:46:12 Devastator: A fellow soldier, ponytail.
05:46:30 syv: "The only woman I've ever seen who wears her hair like that.
05:46:48 Devastator: eh, back in the day every soldier had a nickname.
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05:47:24 MidJag: huh, I think my IRC just lagged
05:47:35 Devastator: Yeah, always happens.
05:47:51 Devastator: well, that's suprising. I thought that would be unnoticed.
05:47:52 MidJag: Literally unlagged right as we got to one.
05:48:02 MidJag: and then turned it on with zero
05:48:05 Devastator: Okay, need a name for this priest.
05:48:25 Devastator: okay, now the actual opening and not just recap.
05:48:27 Devastator: Yeah, that's too long.
05:48:43 MidJag: I just realized I never actually saw this fight
05:48:49 ER: a slower version of the first OP song
05:48:52 MidJag: I'll watch it on my own time some time
05:49:04 syv: They're awesome, you missed out.
05:49:16 ER: eren beats up the chick and she turns into a crystal
05:49:16 syv: Idiots, jumping down like that.
05:49:16 Devastator: how to figure out who the traitors are?
05:49:29 Devastator: goes all beast mode, really.
05:49:43 Devastator: well, I see we're getting more special titans.
05:50:03 MidJag: Well I guess it's a good thing they never burrowed throuhgh the wall
05:50:33 MidJag: ...and that the wall zealots were corrects
05:50:40 ER: hmm, more of our MP friends
05:51:16 Devastator: "They never told me, and as a priest who knows nothing, I'm an asshole."
05:51:40 ER: priests are always assholes~
05:52:03 MidJag: ....I'm listening to the japense version of twilight force
05:52:23 Devastator: Just drop this idiot.
05:52:45 Devastator: eh, write it off as him getting stomped with the rest of his building.
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05:53:37 Elasticly_Rigid: MY WHOLE COMPUTER FREEZES
05:53:39 midnightjaguar: Well for whatever reason my comps internet doesn’t want to play nice
05:53:58 midnightjaguar: So be prepared for even worse spelling now
05:54:00 Devastator: Mine is working fine.
05:54:20 syv: Tell ne where to pause, and I'll stop watching and go.
05:54:22 Devastator: 'too puny to be a soldier'
05:54:41 Elasticly_Rigid: Obviously the wall titan projects a field of tech fuckery.
05:54:44 midnightjaguar: Everything else is fine though.
05:54:59 midnightjaguar: We’re watching the red hair girl talk right?
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05:55:08 Devastator: group of four right now.
05:55:19 Devastator: coming up on ten minutes.
05:55:26 Devastator: potato girl and brush-head.
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05:55:32 midnightjaguar: Hmm. I’m at 8:14
05:55:39 midnightjaguar: ....I’m not sure how actually
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05:56:19 ER: yeah my computer froze at the priest scene and I had to force shut down
05:56:25 Devastator: Must run at a lower framerate.
05:56:33 syv: Well, where do we go to resync?
05:56:36 MidJag: Maybe I lagged and missed the start up?
05:56:44 Devastator: Eh, pause at 15 minutes?
05:57:14 Devastator: newly introduced characters going into combat.
05:57:21 syv: "WE LOST ANOTHER WALL, THIS IS THE ENNNNDDD!"
05:57:26 Devastator: you know what that means.
05:57:36 MidJag: Oh hye Wall Rose is compimised
05:57:58 Devastator: lots of forest for starving population.
05:58:15 Devastator: should be more farms about.
05:58:43 syv: And these forests aren't even good for ODM.
05:58:53 Devastator: If it's too rocky, that's where you put livestock for bonus calorites.
05:59:37 Devastator: well, pompadore's going to die.
05:59:41 Devastator: That's not a good hairstyle.
05:59:54 Devastator: captain Levi mentioned.
06:00:03 Devastator: still betting he's traitor.
06:00:10 MidJag: Man the big dudes a bro.
06:00:42 Devastator: couldn't be psycho, that was all a flashback.
06:00:52 Devastator: looking at psycho's beat up face.
06:00:57 MidJag: Did miss something about what he's doing?
06:01:12 syv: Playing the game until the others catch up, ping me then.
06:01:13 ER: could you fine jents go back to 6:50with me?
06:01:48 MidJag: Man, this is not a night where things go smooth apperentlly. :P
06:02:08 ER: 15 mins is way farther than where I froze
06:02:31 MidJag: Okay, I'm at 15 what's the plan?
06:02:48 MidJag:
ER do you want to just watch to 15?
06:03:51 MidJag: Oh, alright, thought
syv was preoccupied
06:04:14 MidJag: Then let's all just restart at 6:50.
06:05:31 MidJag: Okay. Let's just all pause and figure out what we are doing.
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06:05:40 Devastator: we're waiting for
ER to watch the next nine minutes and catch up.
06:05:51 ER: my fucking computer crashed at 6:50
06:07:25 syv: Dead @ 18 kills, was being stupid.
06:07:50 ER: my video went black, but audio kept going
06:08:38 syv: Racist, black videos are fine.
06:10:16 MidJag: I looked up some gameplay of that MR game. It looks very not great
06:11:13 MidJag: Why is that goodnews for the story?
06:11:19 syv: If it's popular enough to get an adaption, but the gameplay doesn't justify that popularity, then it's likely something else.
06:11:49 MidJag: But then again, it might just be the gameplay is popular to someone who's more into JRPG's then I.
06:12:03 ER: ...I'm gonna update my VLC real quick
06:12:31 ER: a mobile game, right? Does it make you pay for shit?
06:12:37 ER: does the game cost anything?
06:13:06 Devastator: pay to not take forever?
06:14:33 MidJag: I can't read the writing, but I belive it's freemium.
06:14:57 syv: Are there two seperate currencies?
06:15:09 syv: Upper bar, two colorful icons, with numbers next to them.
06:15:24 syv: ALWAYS visible, like with a plus or something next to them, to go to the store.
06:16:11 syv: Task manager, anything else utilizing the video card?
06:16:38 syv: Dead @ 24 kills, I'm doing terrible.
06:16:45 syv: My hands feel frozen, it's 41 degrees.
06:18:08 ER: okay I'm going to reboot my computer
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06:18:26 Devastator: I wear clothes and eat food.
06:18:58 syv: Ahh, that's it. It's all the water I drink.
06:18:59 MidJag: I have to say the music for this game is not bad
06:19:10 syv: Can't freeze if you don't drink water.
06:19:31 syv: Huh. Death metal, for an MG game?
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06:19:59 syv: Link
ER the music, so that he likes it and eventually tries the game.
06:20:58 ER: um, still getting the same issues
06:21:07 MidJag: Ah, now the music has gotten much worser
06:21:47 syv: Dead @ 9 kills, because fucking ginormous hitboxes
06:22:12 MidJag: Ie stopped being atompsheric and filled with a mild sense of despair.
06:22:30 MidJag: Oh yeah this is definetllly freemium
06:24:26 ER: I think that my Episode 26 might just be violently whack
06:24:58 syv: Maybe, like,
Dev could stream it? :P
06:25:18 Devastator: it'd be low quality, but yea, could do that no problem.
06:26:04 ER: ah, and when it freezes and I close it, clicking on any video file does nothing
06:26:16 MidJag: It's a bad time when we decide that introducing a stream to this would decrease our syncying issues :P
06:26:26 Devastator: give me a sec, then.
06:26:40 syv: Just
ER watches the stream, everyone one else watches normal.
06:27:37 syv: 53 outside during the day is like forty below.
06:28:27 syv: Also, "dress in layers" for us means "More than a t-shirt and shorts"
06:29:26 ER: "a person only loses when they give in"
06:29:54 MidJag: So what are we doing? I need to sleep soonish.
06:30:17 syv: I never gor you to do that, did I?
06:30:49 Devastator: I'll let it run through 15 minutes, starting in 60 seconds.
06:31:05 Devastator: dammit, looked away.
06:31:08 Devastator: okay, never mind then.
06:31:36 Devastator: eh, I'll just watch the rest of episode one and stop there, then.
06:32:24 ER: okay I'm- just as I type this it freezes nevermind
06:33:13 syv:
MJ, you could also watch the last two eps of season 1.
06:33:17 Devastator: you want that stream,
ER?
06:33:30 syv: Buuut I'd enjoy if you played with me. :3
06:34:22 ER: fuck you video I'll make you work
06:34:56 MidJag: Hmm, lemme see if that AOT game is set up, if it is then I'll play it, if it isn't I'll set it up and then go to sleep.
06:36:13 ER: I'll watch from here and assume it won't break because if it does I WILL KILL IT SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY YOU HEAR
06:36:47 syv: Well, ny VLC is still paused there.
06:36:51 ER: count down or should I just keep watching? :P
06:36:57 syv: If the others comply, I'll watch.
06:37:18 ER waves rifle in vague direction of computer
06:38:42 MidJag: I'm at 15, also I did apperentlly set up that AOT game
syv, so I can play it whenever
06:39:38 Devastator: "Don't throw punches at everyone who is mean to us."
06:39:42 Devastator: Yeah, psycho didn't learn that one.
06:41:30 MidJag: Why is he even bandaged?
06:41:46 MidJag: Is everyone at like 17:40 ish?
06:42:12 MidJag: oooh, I like that design
06:43:03 Devastator: She wouldn't be here, anyway.
06:43:06 Devastator: this is a flashback.
06:43:27 MidJag: ...Did that just speak?
06:43:32 MidJag: This isn't a flashback
dev
06:43:42 MidJag: heh, it's like a stress toy
06:44:55 MidJag: He's got very delicate hands.
06:45:20 syv: I think he'll survive somehow.
06:45:20 Devastator: Dude, that's stupid.
06:45:31 Devastator: and I'm like way too agressive for my own good.
06:45:48 MidJag: They grow onto his large fingers.
06:46:34 MidJag: ...What's with the medival stained glass?
06:47:37 MidJag: Huh, I guess there would actually be pictures of MP's apoc.
06:47:47 MidJag: Sorry that just came to me
06:48:02 Devastator: "Because there are no other units in the army"
06:48:10 ER: okay, hiccups aside I finished Episode 1
06:48:13 Devastator: uh oh, loli appears in the next episode.
06:48:34 ER: and I thiiiiiink that 27 won't be as broken?
06:48:53 Devastator: I thought she was too loli to ride a horse. ;-p
06:49:07 MidJag: Isn't a pony just a small horse?
06:49:31 Devastator: No, that's exactly what they are.
06:49:34 syv: They're much hardier and tougher, but yes.
06:49:35 Devastator: Ponies are small horses.
06:50:14 MidJag: huh, so ponies are tougher then horses? I always thought they were like more fragile.
06:50:14 MidJag: Also I need to go to bed.
06:50:29 syv: Should we wztch without you?
06:51:09 MidJag: I would like to watch, but I don't know when I'll be avliable to sit down for a binge of it.
06:51:15 Devastator: It's mostly advantages due to being smaller. There are some really tough horses.
06:51:27 Devastator: I wasn't thinking of binging it. Maybe seeing a couple-three eps.
06:52:03 ER: a binge would just fuck my psyche even farther~
06:52:54 MidJag: You guys can watch without me, I need to figure out my schedule more first.
06:53:19 MidJag: And this show recaps so much missing stuff isn't that big of an issue
06:54:00 MidJag: But I do want to watch with you guys. Don't like think I don't.
06:54:07 Devastator: lets just do 3 then.
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06:54:44 Devastator: do the big head ones have special names?
06:54:51 syv: "Yeah, we already found one among them."
06:54:59 Devastator: "They won't be any more."
06:55:05 ER: this time it was broken from the staaaaaart
06:55:13 Devastator: "Well.. wait, we found two of them."
06:55:19 Devastator: "That must be all, right?"
06:56:05 Devastator: (Aaron and ponytail.)
06:56:20 ER: yeah I might have to give this up
06:56:26 Devastator: Dunno. Looks like no good today.
06:57:19 ER: maybe I should redownload season 2
06:57:39 ER: nothing else has broken like this
06:58:03 syv: Dead @ 23, orbited wrong direction, got punched.
06:58:15 syv: Yeah, prolly the best idea.
06:58:45 ER: I'm going to rewatch 25 on super speed for amusement and to make sure it's not VLC that's broke
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06:59:53 ER: this is actually pretty funny
07:01:07 ER: it's actually going at a decent speed now...
07:01:19 syv: Yeah, and Eren sounds funny.
07:01:37 syv: And his name, when spoken quick, becomes "RUN!"
07:02:40 ER: yeah, worth a rewatch at double speed with japanese voices and no subtitles~
07:03:03 syv: Titans running at double speed are amazing.
07:03:08 ER: you'll probably still get the important parts
07:03:39 syv: Yeah, and the Jap voices are just continual Blabbleabblenabblebabababab
07:03:56 syv: this is better than the show at normal speed in english.
07:04:59 ER: ah, so I guess eren would have gotten crystaled if levi didn't slice him out
07:05:12 syv: But the guy who gpt guns pointed at him, and being blabbled at angrily in hyper speed, just said "Soda."
07:07:42 ER: slow piano in fast motion sounds pretty cheerful actually
07:08:25 ER: huh, the japanese narrator is female?
07:09:21 ER: yeah, I better redo season 2
07:10:43 syv: Somehow, the non fight scenes are still slow.
07:10:53 syv: A LOT of people standing around silently.
07:11:04 syv: Talking about nothing of importance.
07:11:18 syv: In a language I can't understand, twice over.
07:11:59 ER: will "force recheck" redownload the files if they're corrupted somehow?
07:12:33 Devastator: You can just delete them and redownload them.
07:12:35 syv: Fast piano still sounds sad,
ER.
07:14:38 ER: okay, I've got it redownloading now
07:22:48 syv: Devil giving Eve the apple -> Warriors fighting giant Eve -> King pushing crying children to eat human flesh while holymen surround them -> titans rising from ocean to attack city -> Renissance pikeman stabbing at titans from the top of the wall -> Titans broken into city, eating people -> Crowd of people trying to break into building while titans bear down on them -> Titans eating people while colossal looks on (colossal is olllld) -> Lots of tita
07:24:02 syv: Anyway, apparently titans sre the result of some medieval religious sect eating people as a ritual to gain immortality and power, eventually becoming titans.
07:24:58 ER: wow nothing happens in episode 1 :P
07:25:13 ER: other than kid mikasa not giving a shit
07:26:15 syv: We get introduced to a talking titan, and guy almost as badass as Levi, who then dies immediately.
07:26:25 Devastator: Of course, he wasn't a titan.
07:26:57 Devastator: so eat people, become titan?
07:27:07 Devastator: Well, now you know what they did to psycho.
07:27:08 ER: I'm sure watching episode 1 at superspeed for sport
07:27:34 Devastator: injected him with purified human.
07:27:45 syv: His dad was likely doing it because that's the "destiny" of mankind or some shit.
07:27:56 syv: No, the injections were just to block his memory.
07:28:10 syv: He likely just ate human flesh to get the enchant.
07:30:33 ER: Mikasa just gets one wobbly-eyes "I'm broken" face in episode 1 and all the other characters get like 5 shots of that~
07:30:48 Devastator: Well, she stabbed a man to death with a knife.
07:30:53 Devastator: doesn't need much more.
07:31:04 ER: watches giant titan appear and kick the wall open, mildly concerned face
07:31:55 Devastator: Does that explain where her CC comes from?
07:32:23 ER: does magic just randomly pop into trumatized people?
07:33:08 ER: the world would be a much more interesting place if that were the case. :P
07:33:19 Devastator: You read Worm, right?
07:33:22 ER: dwarven childcare would be pretty common
07:33:27 Devastator: That's how it worked there, and why the world was so terrible.
07:33:36 Devastator: It is. Look at psycho..
07:34:28 ER: Naaah, that's a silly system. Instead we've gotta have this cat, and the cat gives random trumatized people magic bullshit
07:35:19 ER: maybe not-trumatized people too? Dunno, we don't have a lot of those to be honest.
07:35:32 Devastator: I think the cat eats sadness.
07:35:41 Devastator: therefore it's trying to maximize suffering.
07:36:03 syv: Are you talking about Pumsy?
07:36:37 syv: Figured since Cubae had a stated goal, he was excluded. Also, bunnycat.
07:36:51 ER: Not a lot of people came up with non pre trumatized characters for PS
07:37:02 Devastator: Would you have taken one?
07:37:15 Devastator: I thought you wanted people that had something wrong with them.
07:37:31 ER: bay12 was the right place to look, then
07:38:39 Devastator: Might take a while to get Loli superpowers, then.
07:38:45 Devastator: she kinda seems opposite of traumatized.
07:39:15 syv: I was sorting mostly on builds.
07:39:18 Devastator: Although maybe you get better powers the harder it was to break you.
07:39:43 syv: And somewhat on just characters being interesting to some degree, having a story to tell.
07:39:51 syv: I should have sorted purely on builds.
07:40:31 Devastator: Although those monster game players might make for some good replacements. Some good players there who can roleplay while not being idiots in combat.
07:40:38 syv: Dead @ 51 kills, punched when I critically flubbed the return hit after blinding.
07:40:55 syv: I'm not going to steal players from one of my players.
07:41:14 Devastator: Eh.. a couple of them have been having long entertaining conversations with me.
07:41:21 Devastator: Those aren't people who can't handle another game.
07:41:59 Devastator: but I can understand that reasoning.
07:44:22 Devastator: Some nice people, good players. Haven't seen anyone with my particular brand of madness, but that's rare.
07:44:49 ER: My character that got thunderdomed wasn't *extremely* trumatized. :V
07:44:58 Devastator: until the thunderdome. ;-p
07:46:01 Devastator: Who was everyone in the thunderdome?
07:46:33 ER:
MJ was the medic and Nik was the cackling maniac
07:47:35 syv: Love, Mercy, Pure, vs a Horror.
07:47:47 ER: Her antics caused everyone to die horribly and I subsequently picked that class for the main game.
07:47:53 syv: Zoe, Trina, Cina, vs Clara.
07:47:59 Devastator: So it was all
ER's fault?
07:48:33 syv: He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
07:48:34 ER: I don't remember, we might have been doomed anyways
07:49:25 ER: I did get to test out wound link on someone's face, which worked wonderfully.
07:49:26 syv: Nik used Incite + Inner monster and witched, killing everyone.
07:53:31 Devastator: Did Nik kill the witch before witching, or was it a -1 witch kill?
07:54:09 syv: The witch was a small lizard hiding in the trees.
07:54:45 syv: Zoe killed her most powerful familiar, which caught fire and started burning the trees, but I don't think the witch herself died until after Nik's ability started going.
07:54:46 Devastator: God, I'm screwed with cursed Cre.
07:55:46 syv: The tipoff to the fact that that familiar was NOT the witch was that there was an army of familiars pelting her while she was stuck in a cage, and she was clearly quite unhappy about that.
07:56:55 Devastator: ..didn't Witch Homura have familiars pelting her in the movie?
07:58:00 Devastator: and ones guarding her, and ones pushing her around..
07:58:19 syv: Yes, but she was crying and going along willingly.
07:58:33 Devastator: Labrynths are too weird.
07:58:39 Devastator: hard to make a good guess.
07:59:20 syv: It was totally reasonable to fight that familiar (and forced, I think; the humans were being brought to her, and the girls failed to save them early), which is why killing her was also a win, via fire.
07:59:54 syv: Buuut it would have been a lot easier if they'd found the actual witch and just killed her without fighting anything else. Free seed.
08:00:06 Devastator: How do you find witches, though?
08:00:52 syv: I think Pumsy also gave contrary advice, but it's reasonable not to trust him, so.
08:01:19 Devastator: he wants them to witch, after all.
08:01:31 syv: In this case, Cre would have been required. It was also playful, and could have been lured, but that would've been near impossible to guess.
08:02:00 Devastator: Yeah, definately going to be trying something different if Nak gets Alida back up.
08:02:16 ER: ...maybe the best strat is full curiousity, going solo, and not fighting anything.
08:02:22 syv: I mean he gave advice stating that Horror witches are weak, and tend to hide, which was true and the exact opposite of the giant familiar in the center of the labyrinth screaming while being pelted.
08:02:36 Devastator: Yeah, just stealth around and then cap the boss.
08:03:10 ER: might need CC4 to nuke things hard enough though ;P
08:03:18 Devastator: Hey, you can have both.
08:04:14 ER: naaaah, get invigorating passion 3 and just go about your life normally. :V
08:04:31 Devastator: that viable? It might be fun.
08:05:02 syv: Will still die within a couple years though.
08:05:03 Devastator: So skip most of them, then.
08:05:17 ER: probably a skilled in creativity so that you can deal with the things that inevitably will come up by spotting them first and hiding.
08:05:52 ER: Hmm, but it's only a stall stat, really
08:06:06 ER: you'll never amass power this way
08:06:25 Devastator: Does surviving a labrynth allow for a wish, even if the witch isn't killed?
08:06:33 ER: power isn't just for power's sake, you'll need it.
08:06:50 Devastator: (of course it's for power's sake.) ;-p
08:07:29 syv: No? Surviving a labyrinth never gets a wish.
08:07:51 syv: Aleksandra's been in enough danger.
08:08:13 Devastator: If the others get munched, retreating with sasha's an idea.
08:11:05 Devastator: Nah, don't think I'd abandon them, not after getting helpe.d
08:11:19 Devastator: you don't abandon your comrades.
08:11:40 syv: Oh hey, I got a kill with 1111 damage.
08:12:08 Devastator: Can you do ankle tendon cuts?
08:12:23 syv: Pretty standard high speed diagonal reel cut, I just did it unusually fast.
08:12:56 ER: so if I make a system where you can either aim your gun and shoot for a guaranteed hit, or make a snapshot with a flat 10% chance to hit, and you can make as many snapshots per turn as your gun allows, and hits with bullets are usually lethal, than maybe an smg with like 35 rounds would be overpowered?
08:12:58 syv: My fastest ever with that was 1745, but on a server with larger titans who were immune to sub 1000 damage.
08:13:05 syv: And yes, you can cut ankles.
08:13:21 syv: You don't even know what that means. :P
08:13:44 syv: Small titans, you can just run up and cut them down, but larger ones you either need speed, or strangely, guns.
08:13:50 Devastator: Yeah. A stationary hit does maybe 600-700 damage.
08:14:03 syv: No, a stationary hit does 10 damage.
08:14:27 syv: 600 is a fairly high speed reel cut, and is around the max of what I get with standard hits.
08:14:49 syv: Levi's slash adds around two hundred in general, but doesn't really work with flybys.
08:16:05 syv: There's missing mechanics and context there, which could make an SMG god, or make it near worthless.
08:16:42 ER: ehhhh, just thinking mostly in terms of a neon revolver-like
08:16:45 syv: Say, what about cover? Does leaning out of full cover only leave your head and arm visible, giving you like 80% miss chance? Does armor mitigate pistol rounds well?
08:16:52 Devastator: How good is a neon revolver?
08:17:14 syv: Are there lots of enemies? Scarce ammo?
08:17:19 ER: Oh yeah, armor might theoretically exist
08:17:30 syv: Neon Revolver was
PW's dungeon crawl gun game.
08:19:10 ER: Like... for ammo it's scarce till it ain't because you're most likely looting guns from enemies mostly.
08:19:46 ER: So I guess if you want to mow things down you need to first face enemies with similar dakka.
08:20:21 ER: this IS mostly disconnected mechanical musings, I don't have a larger set up for this really.
08:20:45 ER: if anything, an excuse to nail other disconnected mechanics together.
08:20:47 Devastator: How close is Refine?
08:21:08 Devastator: being extant in a form outside of your own mind.
08:21:16 Devastator: or just outside of the mind in general.
08:21:32 ER: it will never be free from the mind.
08:21:51 ER: unless you count, like, images or shit. I can link a thing
08:21:53 Devastator: You know, that's another bet.
08:22:03 Devastator: How many titans are there going to be from that cadet regiment?
08:24:12 syv: Going for ankles is a bad idea.
08:24:30 syv: The ground has lots of friction, and ground grabs are VERY dangerous.
08:24:39 Devastator: I'll take the over on four.
08:24:44 Devastator: there will be at least five.
08:25:00 syv: Plus, it's hard to hit tiny ankles, and you need a lot of speed.
08:26:06 syv: They're great targets with guns, since guns ALWAYS work.
08:26:37 syv: And it's an easy tech for small titans, since they don't need speed, and their range is short enough you can just run in and do it.
08:27:16 Devastator: ..come to think of it, there's the self-harm thing too.
08:27:18 syv: Pretty safe too, in co-op, since someone can kill it while it's holding you, and there's little risk of being killed by something OTHER than a grab.
08:27:21 Devastator: Maybe trauma does grant superpowers.
08:27:42 syv: Still, I usually go for the eyes for smalls, because it's safe done right, and quite fast.
08:28:06 Devastator: can you kill a nape from the front on a small?
08:29:03 ER: just fucking break the sound barrier and behead em
08:29:39 ER: maybe they should wear heavy armor too just so there's more interia behind their strikes.
08:31:29 syv: You can, actually, for the tiniest. It requires very specific and dangerous positioning, maybe some speed, and precise timing.
08:32:02 syv: The speed = more damage thing seems to be PURELY a game idea. Nothing in the show indicated speed mattering.
08:32:16 syv: Plus, plate armor would mean less gas efficiency.
08:32:33 Devastator: Probably better gameplay.
08:32:54 syv: Funny thing is, it doesn't matter for blades for the most part.
08:33:35 syv: Legs needing speed basically means "Don't target legs on big enemies" which is good, and beyond that it only matters for bosses in the base game.
08:33:41 ER: honestly seems a little backwards
08:34:06 ER: swords need no extra force, but guns do
08:34:19 ER: to pierce a thick bunch of flesh
08:34:52 syv: And guns do need speed to damage, that's core to them.
08:35:02 syv: Purely a game thing, to balance their massive AoE.
08:35:36 syv: You can actually kill multiple titans at once with one shot, if they're perfectly positioned.
08:35:48 ER: feel like it could be somewhat balanced if you could reload blades midair but not guns.
08:36:16 Devastator: I think that only the dead guys are for certain not-titans in AoT.
08:36:46 ER: ehh. beast titan is some sort of outsider.
08:36:46 syv: By default you can't reload guns midair in PvP, and there's a setting in the
RC mod to disable it always.
08:37:21 syv: And colossal also isn't a trainee, because it was seen in the history credits.
08:37:48 syv: Also, for titans, having to land to reload wouldn't be a big deal. Just means guns are a little slower.
08:37:48 Devastator: Yeah, but we had two, and that guy saying there won't be any more has to be wrong.
08:38:01 Devastator: Them outnumbering the humans only makes sense, really.
08:38:27 Devastator: Yeah. And I think at least two or three more. One will become a titan from whatever happened.
08:38:41 Devastator: I haven't went back and looked at it.
08:39:13 Devastator: baldy isn't, and probably the two tall guys. Other than those and loli, they're all titans. ;-p
08:39:25 Devastator: so six of the top 10.
08:39:33 ER: most of the trainees are around the same age as erin, and he was a tiny child when armored showed up
08:40:05 Devastator: Potato becomes a titan from eating human flesh someday.
08:40:35 syv: Are all the trainees kids?
08:40:42 ER: the collossal is the king, he's secretly immortal and sometimes ends up sleepwalking and smashing a wall.
08:40:51 syv: I thought many of them were adults, joining because their homes were destroyed.
08:41:05 syv: He's also skinless, like the wall titans.
08:41:11 ER: it's anime so who can tell~
08:41:54 Devastator: I do agree with you there. Beast titan is probably ancient and an outsider.
08:42:21 ER: the wall was never supposed to be protection, they were supposed to hop into the meat mechs stored inside to protect themselves but everyone forgot the technology over time
08:42:45 syv: He doesn't know what ODM is or how it works.
08:43:10 syv: No, titans die and fade without their pilot, plus the priest said not to let sunlight touch them.
08:43:24 Devastator: ..that might wake them up.
08:43:31 syv: If he were part of the current society, he'd know what ODM is. So he's old.
08:43:33 ER: someone should combine ODM tech with titan tech and make meat tentril suits
08:43:43 syv: That would obviously wake them up.
08:44:11 syv: Flaw with that plan: There's almost nothing around for titan sized ODM gear to grapple.
08:44:43 ER: not titan sized, just the same neural interface
08:45:26 ER: you just slough on a new skin and then you can shoot tentacles at things and fly around.
08:45:57 ER: don't even need the swords, just put spikes on the end of the tentacles and stab everything to death
08:46:07 Devastator: So Levi has the spin slash.
08:46:11 Devastator: What are the other moves?
08:46:34 ER: other spin slash, downcut, potato run
08:47:50 syv: Titan Eren, Distract, Improved Distract.
08:48:33 Devastator: Mikasa has something going on, and is probably either a titan or something better than a titan.
08:49:10 ER: she is just a good murderer
08:49:21 Devastator: I can't forget that CC usage.
08:50:17 syv: I think it's just a world where believing really hard in stuff gives you power.
08:50:28 ER: all about that "oh guess my meaning in life is to kill things I am PERFECTLY FINE with this actually"
08:50:36 Devastator: ponytail didn't have much.
08:50:42 syv: Mikasa's special ability is having a personality that believes REALLY hard.
08:51:08 ER: and maybe a little sociopathy
08:51:09 syv: Ponytail turned into a titan, she didn't have belief, she was just a person eater.
08:51:32 syv: *Levi* has belief, so he's a killer. Eren has belief, which is why he killed ponytail.
08:51:46 Devastator: ahh, so that's why he could be a titan +1.
08:52:28 Devastator: titan with superpowers.
08:52:41 ER: Eren killed ponytail because Mikasa suddenly grew the ability to cut all of ponytail's crystal fingers at once.
08:52:56 ER: And then briefly slowed down time.
08:53:14 Devastator: "I wish every time I lost a fight, I learn a skill that would have won it."
08:53:34 ER: granted. when you lose a fight, you die.
08:53:53 Devastator: "I wish every time I would lose a fight, I learn a skill that lets me win it."
08:54:15 Devastator: That's pretty broken.
08:54:50 ER: "I wish to be able to win every fight by punching and not thinking"
08:54:55 syv: Bullet to the head from 100 meters, during a mugging.
08:55:00 Devastator: That's what I want with the werewolf thing. ;-p
08:55:07 Devastator: You gain precognition! ;-p
08:55:09 ER: why grow as a person when you can just win~
08:56:11 Devastator: More punching, less thinking. Should let the other players drive the action more.
08:58:15 syv: It's not a fight if you don't even know you're being attacked.
08:58:24 Devastator: I suppose that's true.
08:58:57 Devastator: although if you ever get precognition, that would go away.
08:59:00 ER: "I wish to only die when it's dramatically appropriate"
09:00:28 ER: how to not get killed by ambush: just gain an intuitive understanding of every single possible timeline for the next 30 seconds, constantly for the rest of your life.
09:09:14 Devastator: Always a good plan.
09:19:19 syv: Hum. I've found an interesting glitch.
09:19:49 syv: If you play as a character with guns, and get grabbed while in the air, you have a short window of opporunity to escape by airbursting.
09:20:21 syv: This removes all collision from your character, and the titan who grabbed you will still go through his eating animation, which still kills you at the end.
09:20:48 syv: Buuut if you can manage to change his animation, you'll survive.
09:21:00 Devastator: say with an eyeshot?
09:21:22 syv: Eyeshot, ankle shot, or high speed nape shot.
09:21:31 syv: Nape is hardest, legs are easiest.
09:22:12 syv: In singleplayer, you stay without collision--though hitboxes will still kill you, and grab will still catch you (albeit, you can just escape again). This makes resupply very difficult, but actually possible with precise grappling.
09:22:29 Devastator: Oh? You can't resupply with collision off.
09:22:36 Devastator: How do you resupply then?
09:23:25 syv: You grapple two things equally far apart from the resupply light (in my case, I used the resupply box, and the ground), then just hold position over the light until you refill your gas and guns.
09:23:45 Devastator: You don't fall through the floor, I hope.
09:23:54 syv: You fall through the floor.
09:24:38 syv: Luckily, in the forest map (where I did this), the floor is a giant block, and after you fall through the bottom of the block you can grapple and pull yourself back up.
09:24:54 syv: But if you fail to do this (as I did when I started typing), you fall forever.
09:26:02 syv: My char seems to have maxed out at 81 urists of speed--oddly slow--and can't see anything. Firing guns no longer makes any noise, holding gas leaves no trail, and his body parts are wiggling like crazy.
09:26:20 syv: Everything is 706 units away, oddly close.
09:26:28 Devastator: Probably precision issues then.
09:26:38 syv: I presume whatever the max values are, they get read as those numbers, yeah.
09:27:08 syv: I think he's still accelerating, as the body warping from speed is only getting worse.
09:27:08 Devastator: What's the normal playable area?
09:27:38 syv: In distance? I'unno, let me respawn and check.
09:28:43 syv: Trees are about 1000 urists apart at the farthest, the empty area around them accounts for ahout 300 more urosts all tols.
09:29:23 Devastator: Is it always 706 units whenver you fall?
09:31:16 syv: When watching the bottom of the world, it goes to ??? right at 1000, seems to run out of draw distance around 1500 I'd guess.
09:31:29 syv: My speed stopped going up at 414 urists/second.
09:31:36 Devastator: It might simply be the leftover points.
09:32:06 Devastator: eventually the precision removes the decimal places between units, so the displayed numbers are just the least significant figures, which will no longer change.
09:32:13 syv: Gas is visible currently, but the individual particles are getting further apart. Body wiggle is setting in.
09:35:33 Devastator: ..you know, animal titans is going to mean a very happy day.
09:35:38 Devastator: The return of the evil birds.
09:37:44 syv: If you try to run while inside a tree, you will momentarily wallrun, halting momentum.
09:37:56 syv: Which I guess means trees are solid inside.
09:42:34 syv: In multiplayer, you regain collision upon stunning the titan, warping up to the ground if you were below.
09:42:36 ER: I'm dead by the crypt of the necrodancer soundtrack is keeping me alive
09:42:48 Devastator: whatever that means?
09:43:04 syv: But, winning after this makes you respawn before the map is reset, *while your original body is still moving*.
09:44:37 syv: Oh, and you still control your first body! And your second, with the same commands, I think!
09:44:48 syv: It lasts for mere seconds, but still.
09:45:15 Devastator: That sounded really sweet.
09:45:21 Devastator: useless, but really sweet.
09:46:42 Devastator: Can you kill yourself?
09:47:10 syv: I'm trying to get close enough to try.
09:47:21 syv: It;s hard to return to spawn within five seconds
09:48:21 Devastator: That would be a weirder tombstone than any in Nethack.
09:48:47 Devastator: "Killed by the despawning body of a previous incarnation.
09:51:48 syv: In forest, the restart timer ends if someone respawns
09:51:58 syv: Probably because it's waves? I'unno.
09:52:17 syv: And I don't need to successfully rescue myself, just get the escape then respawn, dead or nor.
09:52:59 syv: So I have two bodies, and unlimited time to screw with them. Can't shoot myself, and the game seems to think both bodies are the same player.
09:53:21 Devastator: Can you give yourself four bodies?
09:53:39 syv: Grapples are aimed at the targeted point (so, fired at different angles), which causes desync between bodies, but all other commands seem to be identically handled.
09:54:06 ER: maybe that's how Levi can manage to cut every single part of a titan at the same time
09:54:15 ER: just makes a bunch of copies
09:54:30 Devastator: Damn, I wish I used effigy first.
09:55:26 Devastator: Or that I'd fudged that roll. I know high numbers are bad in PS.
09:55:41 syv: ...Having trouble replicating it, I must not understand exactly what's going on.
10:07:08 ER: fuck it, I'll just PLAY crypt of the necrodancer
10:16:07 syv: Too bad multiplayer can't work online with that game.
10:31:49 ER: I'll stream this just because it's funny to watch me die repeatedly
10:56:24 syv: My best idea for why it happened when it did, but not since, is that another titan killed me before I was bitten, so I respawned for *both* deaths.
10:56:56 syv: But it is really hard to kill yourself by another titan's attack, within the two seconds you have, and without having collision.
10:57:10 syv: I think I did do it once, but I'm really not sure.
10:57:47 syv: There's also a suicide button, but that doesn't seem to cause it, possibly because it disables respawn.
10:59:08 syv: There's a version of forest with a lethal floor, but that doesn't work either. Possibly, the clone appears on the ground, and instantly dies before appearing on the minimap.
10:59:37 syv: Or, I just don't know the sequence, or it's just a stupid low chance and I got lucky.
11:03:47 Devastator: so can you reproduce the two bodies?
11:06:29 Devastator: Anyone know about it?
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23:52:16 ER: "my cause is just, my will is strong... and my gun is very, very large!"
23:52:35 ER: if the rules are quoting the doom comic that's probably a good sign.
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