00:28:09 Piecewise: seems he ain't around
00:28:20 Piecewise: Well,
dev, pm me questions if you have them
00:28:35 Piecewise: I've got school here in a few so I can't hang around much longer
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01:52:19 ER: who knew that thi game might be deliciously complicated.
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02:32:06 ER: darn, I've been writing for a while, huh...
02:32:41 ER: Alpha is done, I think, but not posting thread till I have all three setup.
02:33:22 ER: includes AlphaHost, but I'm afraid you'll have to wait, as I intend to add demon commentary to it...
02:34:40 ER: You also have descriptions of your two coworkers, including character sheets. Really just because that makes it easier for me.
02:35:59 ER: Appollogies about the lab tech randomly ALSO being security, but uh. She got some pretty good rolls for "having skills related to the situation" so I rolled with it. :V
02:37:48 ER: her rolls for "HANDLING THE SITUATION" were a bit more mediocre.
03:01:04 Devastator: Are you kidding me? Four minutes? Agggh..
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04:05:50 Devastator: Nah, clearly a
syv is earth.
04:06:12 Devastator: I'm obviously fire, which would make
ER water.
04:06:16 Devastator: IV, the best one. ;-p
04:06:34 ER: civ six, because alliteration
04:07:03 syv: I think by the traditional element associations, I'm either water or air. Unsure though.
04:07:45 Devastator: ended up sending
PW my questions through PMs.
04:09:48 ER: though BURNING SHIT is usually the best option in games where you're given an option.
04:11:00 syv: Gameplay wise I'm definitely earth.
04:11:21 syv: Waaay too careful, slow, and cautious for any others.
04:12:02 ER: care if for people who didn't bring enough heavy weapons and/or spell slots.
04:14:33 syv: Googled element meanings because I am distracted far too easily, and all I can say is that this astrology site has even more meaningless explanations than usual.
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04:14:58 syv: Apparently air and earth are the exact same thing, while fire is just angrier water.
04:15:20 syv: Earth is just a slightly calmer fire, too.
04:15:27 ER: I sorta halfheartedly looked at classical element meanings on wikipedia for one of these games.
04:15:36 MJ: I would guess I'm either Air or water.
04:16:02 MJ: Though why would Air and Earth be the same thing?
04:16:08 syv: Water or earth by this one, or maybe air.
04:16:19 syv: Because they state the same virtues using synonyms.
04:18:44 syv: Astrology is shit but usually they're a little more convincing in not repeating themselves. And not flat out contradicting on the next line. "Oh, I'm hard working, and very reliable, but I'm also lazy and flaky."
04:19:20 MJ: Which thing are you reading
syv?
04:19:35 MJ: I'm reading the wiki article on four temperments.
04:20:00 syv: It was one of many stupid astrology articles on te internet. Wikipedia is undoubtably better.
04:20:19 MJ: Yeah, the wikipedia one doesn't repeat the four elements one too much.
04:21:11 MJ: It also place air with being more similar to fire and water more similar to earth. Which to me makes some strange version of sense.
04:21:54 ER: I kinda like the chinese version of elements, with wood and metal
04:22:11 ER: but it's also apparantly not very literal
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04:30:17 ER:
pw says he wants to do a game about being mechanics on a breaking down ship. He has three possible versions of that. One of them is MAINSPRING, so I have to yell at him to do that one.
04:31:00 syv: Tell it it has my vote too.
04:31:44 MJ: I would be interested to see that. If only because I stole the name. :P
04:33:10 ER: [11:32 PM] Mr. Bones:
Syv should GET IN THE FUCKING DISCORD
04:33:48 syv: I've been there before. It didn't look fun or pleasant.
04:34:37 syv: Lots of people I don't care for, lots of tasteless idiocy I don't care for, far too little information I find interesting.
04:36:52 MJ: I'll look at the discord eventually.
04:37:23 ER: that's probably not wise, but you're free to do so if you please.
04:53:56 syv: ...WHY is pure a popular class?
04:54:34 ER: they hunger for the Truth, of course.
04:55:28 syv: Except not because that would be Curiousity/Creativity.
04:56:21 ER: truth comes from within, knowledge comes with without~
04:57:44 MJ: Perhaps all of your players are secretlly neonazi drug dealers trying to eugenically create pure bloodlines of pure magical girls which can then be used to create pure uncut MG dust? :P
04:58:30 syv: None of my players are Pures.
04:58:46 MJ: Well there goes that theory.
04:58:50 syv: But I think pure is the most popular choice among non players, despite probably being the worst class.
04:59:06 MJ: what do you mean by nonplayers?
04:59:12 ER: my answer was really that pure was the "other weird class" after I'd already made a love.
04:59:36 syv: The people who've made a sheet but haven't played in the game.
05:01:01 ER: curiousity is a pretty spicy class though, That's what I'd jump on next.
05:03:48 MJ: I still will probably eventually make a mercy.
05:05:03 Devastator: Probably will update wednesday or so.
05:05:54 syv: You'd probably actually prefer a curio by dint of mercies healing with magic, and curios magically seeing the internal composition of everything, always. And curios being fleshorrors.
05:05:56 MJ: Cool, I will send an action before then
05:06:10 MJ: Curious do sound much more up my alley then
05:06:15 Devastator: They're not fleshhorrors.
05:06:28 Devastator: Just like the other classes.
05:06:34 MJ: I'm sure they are in their mothers eyes :P
05:06:40 syv: Controlling a bunch of malleable flesh which they warp around to suit their needs.
05:07:01 syv: Or, they could, if they're played the way they were intended. >.<
05:07:12 Devastator: That would involve one using powers.
05:07:44 ER: totally want to play a jungle girl curio
05:11:05 Devastator: How would that work?
05:11:22 Devastator: Well, you'd have been that much closer to fleshhorror if you let
ER's orders stand. ;-p
05:11:25 MJ: A plant based curio could be cool
05:11:35 Devastator: Nah, plants are slow.
05:11:45 syv: Use mimicry to eat an aspen tree. Become one and plant yourself, growing into a giant aspen jungle.
05:11:48 Devastator: cell walls won't help anything.
05:12:07 ER: Barkskin is s decent spell ya know.
05:12:12 Devastator: A mere two hundred years later.
05:12:17 Devastator: So is stoneskin or steelskin.
05:13:02 syv: Barkskin'd prolly be slightly cheaper, by virtue of being a living surface which actually grows organically. Assuming you're using Semblance.
05:13:43 syv: And cellophane skin would be the worst of both worlds.
05:13:43 Devastator: Would chitinous plates be better?
05:13:56 Devastator: Bugskin it is, then.
05:14:14 ER: too bad I can't Adopt the body of a sportscar in your game ;\
05:14:35 Devastator: Can't you, if you eat it?
05:14:49 syv: I think I ruled that cars are too big.
05:15:12 Devastator: well sure, for normal-sized magical girls. ;-p
05:15:54 ER:
dev will always dream of riding a giant bird and being a giant vertical wolf and neither will ever happen~
05:16:44 Devastator: I could have done the bird already if I'd just bought the one that was available, instead of ordering a griffen.
05:23:02 Devastator: Oh well, rather talk about creativity fleshhorrors, anyway.
05:23:27 Devastator: Can you do a straight up tentacle beast?
05:24:00 syv: You would get some hard looks though.
05:24:01 MJ: What about a ball of sentient guns with the gem at the center.
05:24:02 ER: could even do it with just mimicry if you find a nice squid~
05:24:34 syv: You would get appreciative looks in that case.
05:24:57 syv: "Aaaand why are you turning your character into a fetish, might I ask?"
05:25:46 ER: "I explode into a mass of tentacles that's also a maid"
05:25:47 Devastator: "Because there's like eight people on this bus and I need to carry them all out alone?"
05:26:03 syv: Tentacle monster is at least arguable, so I wouldn't just say no, but the moment that person starts to try sexual stuff their char would be NPC'd.
05:31:12 Devastator: So being a tentacle monster is okay if you have a reason for it.
05:33:10 MJ: See the ball of guns always has a reason.
05:33:17 Devastator: Yes, it's a good reason.
05:33:26 Devastator: Although wouldn't TK3 do it for cheaper?
05:35:29 syv: If you have the guns available, yes, vastly cheaper.
05:35:49 syv: If you want to become the guns, well no. TK can't do that.
05:35:50 MJ: Who needs economcis when you have style :P
05:35:52 ER: why use gun when can be guns
05:36:09 MJ: So do you lose mass to firing bullets?
05:36:28 MJ: Could you consume more people to make more bullets?
05:36:32 ER: "the answer? use a gun. And if that don't work? Use more gun."
05:36:47 syv: Yes, but considering you're allowed to turn into a bear, then a pen, then regenerate a full human's body, losing mass is academic.
05:37:16 ER: Mass is only relevant to actual fleshhorrors
05:37:28 syv: Eating people means nothing for Creatives. At most, done over time to imcrease mass when you have the capacity for it, it might make some semblance things cheaper.
05:38:06 ER: eating people DOES mean something
05:38:18 ER: you just have to use mimicry for it
05:38:36 syv: And then you've got one mimicry form for that one person.
05:38:51 syv: Permanently clogging your list.
05:39:25 ER: you eat father gascan and then you ARE father gascan
05:39:52 syv: Huh. Wonder if eating a werewolf would be a cheaty way to get two forms.
05:40:19 Devastator: Probably, but first you'd need to make one.
05:40:48 syv: You assume they don't already exist.
05:40:56 ER: maybe this is secretly world of darkness and werewolves already exist
05:41:24 syv: WoD's system *was* a minor influence.
05:41:45 syv: Though not the WoD Magical Girl system. That was pain.
05:42:21 ER: if it made you SUFFER then presumably you got something out of it that you passed on to PS
05:42:34 MJ: Something I only recently found out is that WoD has like a shit ton of books beyond Werewolfs and Vampires
05:42:35 syv: No. I got nothing useful from that.
05:42:59 ER: does not your own suffering empower your pathos?
05:43:14 syv: Definitely not. I don't update when depressed.
05:43:39 ER: as if your suffering is only part of you when you're depressed
05:43:55 Devastator: There's a WoD magical girl system?
05:44:03 Devastator: does cuteness make things more powerful?
05:44:11 syv: Fan made. So no. But it's complete. So yes?
05:44:29 syv: "Princess: the Awakening" or something like that.
05:45:03 MJ: heh, I vaguelly rember you talking about at some point
05:45:09 syv: IIRC it was more that cuteness was just a choice and you could be basically anything.
05:46:37 Devastator: Ugh, ran into some kind of template added to a non-moving enemy, so now it has like 300 HP and no ability to hurt anything.
05:46:53 ER: wod has a book for freddie style serial killers, who are just humans who became so gosh darn evil that they gained magical powers and became unkillable.
05:47:08 Devastator: A brown mold actually.
05:49:50 Devastator: Not sure. It's also got some heavy-duty DR in addition to the standard armour, so I'm hitting it at a -20 penalty to damage.
05:50:01 Devastator: I can't see the template because my character failed the appraise check.
05:50:09 Devastator: but if it had no HP, it'd have about 25 HP.
05:50:56 Devastator: Broke down and broke out a blunt weapon that bypassed it.
05:54:17 Devastator: Oh, that's the issue. The max HP of a brown mold increases when it's attacked by fire damage.
05:54:26 Devastator: Someone probably pumped up all these molds.
05:54:55 MJ: That actually sounds like an entertaining game
ER.
05:54:59 Devastator: That D&D roguelike.
05:55:11 Devastator: I got a fairly experienced character at this point.
05:57:31 Devastator: This encounter is incredibly boring because there's a skeleton in the middle of a crowd of them that is also immune to their attacks, and there are like 18 messages each combat turn about attacks doing nothing.
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06:00:47 Devastator: "Mildly injured" , "Moderately Hurt", "Severely Hurt", "Badly Wounded", "Critically Wounded", "Almost Dead."
06:03:37 syv: "Bloodied", "Wounded", "Crippled", "Dead", "Annihilated."
06:04:32 ER: fine, hert, fucked, splatted, dead, double dead
06:04:37 Devastator: oh come on, a mold managed a disarm check?
06:04:55 ER: mold says this is ITS sword now
06:05:01 syv: ""Scratched", "Calmed", "Relaxed", "Rested", "Slept".
06:05:54 ER: dead, double dead, extra dead, turbo dead, turbo dead deluxe
06:06:56 syv: Super Dead, Super Dead II, Super Dead III, Ultra Super Dead, Ultra Super Dead II, Divinely Dead, Perfectly Divinely Dead
06:07:15 syv: DBZ but death instead of screaming and growing hair.
06:07:46 ER: double dead, triple dead, multi dead, m-m-m-megadead
06:08:22 ER: what if DBZ but you grew out your beard with screaming
06:08:43 Devastator: you don't? I figure that it's because the nonhumans don't have beards.
06:08:55 syv: You'd go blind because your golden beard would go into your eyes.
06:10:49 Devastator: dammit, one of them grabbed the moringstar and pulled it to the square full of molds, so this is going to take longer.
06:10:55 Devastator: Fortunately, they don't all seem to have that many hitpoints.
06:11:07 Devastator: it looks like the immune skeleton was attacking them with lit torches.
06:35:41 Devastator: Finally. That was a better idea.
06:35:57 Devastator: I burned a bunch of wands on them, but decided to just go with a long pokey stick to kill them with.
06:36:34 Devastator: doesn't matter if you have nigh-infinite hitpoints if I can hit you from outside your reach. No attacks, no messages, no risk of getting tripped or disarmed.
06:36:40 Devastator: (I got tripped once and almost died.)
06:56:51 Devastator: "Fiendish Juvenile Mercury Dragon."
06:56:54 Devastator: not eating that corpse.
06:57:14 ER: sure you just have to cook it right
07:00:06 Devastator: Holy fuck, that last level of weapon specialization is the shit.
07:00:13 Devastator: I just knocked out a freaking dragon with one blow.
07:00:19 Devastator: Didn't kill it, but damn that was some critical.
07:13:08 Devastator: invislbe monster with three attacks and the to-hit to nail me.
07:13:32 Devastator: It helps that it got +14 to hit from being invisible.
07:15:39 Devastator: Also managed to fail five attempts to repair my armour earlier, each costing me 47000 GP.
07:16:14 Devastator: rolls were 3, 1, 2, 1, and 5.
07:16:39 syv: This sounds like a poor game.
07:16:54 Devastator: I needed 4, 6, 4, 3 and 6 to repair, respectively.
07:17:05 Devastator: It is a poor game, although in truth the repairs weren't that necessary.
07:17:15 Devastator: the armour was at 217/245 HP.
07:17:26 syv: You should play Hyper Light Drifter.
07:17:39 syv: I still think you'd like it.
07:18:02 Devastator: Yay, pumsy's update.
07:18:20 Devastator: no wait, Nov 24 at 11:03.
07:18:25 Devastator: I thought you'd just finished, sorry.
07:18:36 syv: Need to... Finish Tooru's. Guh.
07:19:02 syv: Day doesn't end until I sleep.
07:19:06 Devastator: Next stream has to be DSIII, anyway.
07:19:21 Devastator: I gotta make it up to
PW for coming over here and me being asleep.
07:19:44 syv: You sleep for a distressingly short period of time.
07:20:02 syv: I sleep about as long as I stay awake.
07:20:24 Devastator: I'll sleep properly in a few hours.
07:23:54 ER: albeom is 1/3 complete, and I'm calling that this day's work
07:24:37 Devastator: hmm, so not much point of eating someone as a creative.
07:25:27 ER: anyone can profit from eating people in refine!
07:27:13 ER: ...may as well say I'm 100% done with ALPHA
07:30:07 ER: the ones in the middle will probably get to play some day
07:34:53 syv: You could make the game just about one of us. Make it more reasonable to handle.
07:35:32 Devastator: one of us! one of us!
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07:41:11 ER: I don't see much need to break it that far down right now
07:43:05 Devastator: Hopefully the others will do something.
07:43:22 syv:
Dev: Alida is relatively intelligent and wants her fall to be as nonlethal as possible, yes?
07:44:16 Devastator: It's going to be bad because the wings are a lot smaller than she thought, but that's life.
07:44:25 syv: Well then I'll assume she attempts to land in the lake, which is more or less under her, and thus ends up uninjured.
07:44:44 syv: Didn't roll well enough to make a good landing on land, but rolled well enough to slow and steer a fall.
07:45:13 syv: ...Pretty sure I mentioned the lake.
07:46:04 Devastator: oh, I wanted to go back towards the other people.
07:46:07 Devastator: lake is going to suck.
07:46:19 Devastator: and she's immobilized.
07:46:23 Devastator: Good thing our healer never uses powers.
07:46:34 Devastator: Same with the shapeshifter.
07:46:43 Devastator: That's going to be more lethal due to drowning.
07:50:40 Devastator: ahh, well, it's okay. Although next turn being 'swim to shore'..
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07:59:22 Devastator: Although I need to read the last update to see how wounded tooru is.
08:01:09 Devastator: Wonder if it was so bad due to poor bravery, or that's just magical girls being fragile, as they're magical girls.
08:19:09 Devastator: yeah, being wounded and bleeding in the lake should be rough. Still, softer landing than on land.
08:26:57 Devastator: I do hope we can get through this alive.
09:37:21 Devastator: well, that made the money back.
09:37:57 Devastator: another bug had the game refund me for about 100k worth of free enchantment, so that makes up for the enormous amount spent on repairing crap.
09:38:10 Devastator: Also, dwarf god fixed my stuff for free, which is nice.
09:49:41 Devastator: (I cheated a bit. It won't count if I win, but the game isn't really winnable.)
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10:10:14 NJW: ...it's evening for you, right?
10:10:28 Devastator: I'll be sleeping in a couple hours.
10:10:35 Devastator: working late afternoons to around midnight these days.
10:13:05 NJW: Did you get the first aid qualification?
10:15:30 NJW: So when did the birdgame start? I've been missing out on the b12 happenings.
10:16:05 Devastator: About seven weeks ago.
10:22:22 Devastator: I didn't make any announcement, so don't think like you missed it.
10:22:29 Devastator: I'll do the next turn on Wednesday.
10:29:01 Devastator: Yeah. I just wanted something to do while unemployed, and I started it at the same time I started work, more or less.
10:30:10 NJW: People are sometimes more productive when they've got a lot going on
10:30:50 NJW: Or a reasonable amont going on.
10:31:31 Devastator: It's more physically exhausting than mentally.
10:33:04 Devastator: This roguelike has some serious issues.
10:33:22 Devastator: There's like 40 messages any time there's action going on onscreen, and that happens all the time lower down in the dungeon.
10:35:28 NJW: Like, real-time, pausable, turn-based, etc?
10:35:28 Devastator: actions, essentially.
10:36:09 NJW: Ok, so the messages are dealable with but not ideal. Which game is it, btw?
10:37:36 Devastator: Also, apparently when you have weapons of stat drain, all the damage done is stat-drain.
10:37:51 Devastator: I just hit a dragon for one half of 36 points of Con damage.
10:37:55 Devastator: I think this weapon is broken.
10:39:05 Devastator: no, looking at it that was just one con damage.
10:39:12 Devastator: regular damage is limited, though.
10:42:11 NJW: Hm... I think I might have a shot at my master pyromancer dark souls run.
10:43:06 NJW: The idea is to kill Queelag ASAP, then use glitches to skip down into Izalith and kill the bed of chaos.
10:43:45 Devastator: What are the restrictions?
10:44:07 NJW: No restrictions, it's just an interesting way of sequence breaking
10:45:05 NJW: Asylum > Queelag > Ceaseless > Demon Firesage > Centipede Demon > Bed of Chaos
10:45:47 NJW: You basically skip out the early and early/midgame
10:46:34 NJW: And blast through everything
10:47:33 NJW: It's not actually particularly efficient as pyromancy builds become weak towards the DLC end of things, but it's fun to have chaos firestorm and power within before gargoyles.
10:47:47 Devastator: eh, DLC isn't required anyway.
10:48:36 NJW: Well, I'll be playing some dark souls then, for the first time in ages. See ya
10:52:10 Devastator: Yeah, crash upon entering the lowest dungeon level.
10:52:17 Devastator: That's it for that character, but found some more bugs.
10:52:22 Devastator: including an item duplication bug.
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16:21:06 syv:
Devastator. Next time you see
NJW, tell him to get the Crown of Dusk and the Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring.
16:23:05 syv: The reason he thinks Pyromancer falls off in the DLC is because he's not powering it up enough. Even without RTSR, I just did a boss rush with one of my chars, and killed every boss with pyromancy only. Everything before Manus dies within six boosted GCFs (using Dusk Crown Ring for extra casts), and by the time of Manus you have no reason to not use Black Flame.
16:25:07 syv: Also, pyromancer usually did comparable damage to my Great Scythe, on a dex char. It might not trivialize the later bosses, since they still need to be hit six times with a slow attack, but that's *not* bad damage.
16:26:08 syv: Also tell him to aim for the bigger bosses' feet, since GCS does like a third of its damage with the walkable lava, which doesn't affect them if they don't stand in it.
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