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03:11:26 syv: So, what's
MJ's Snake Pliskin voice sound like?
03:11:39 ER: wasn't watching for that part
03:12:00 ER: made me want to play teleglitch though, so uh, now I'm playing that
03:12:50 ER: It has a crafting system, and it's actually balanced and fun to use in an action game!
03:14:35 ER: you can craft them into other guns using parts, but it's not exactly freeform
03:15:06 ER: but you can slap two pipes onto a grenade launcher and have a grenade launcher with three berrels
03:17:01 syv: That is not how pipes or grenade launchers work.
03:17:15 syv: ...And would not be useful, either.
03:17:42 syv: Well, maybe it'd be useful for pony-sized Cthulhu.
03:18:24 ER: pony-sized Cthulhu is most of what you fight in Teleglitch~
03:20:42 ER: I mean, you can also make a single shot rocket launcher from some steel cans and high explosive.
03:24:07 syv: I prefer Cataclysm-style macgyver.
03:24:22 ER: combined a tube with a microchip to make a motion detector.
03:25:32 syv: That sounds like you had a morion detector already and glued some metal onto it so that you had a handhold.
03:26:07 syv: Much harder to make than a motion detector, in all honesty.
03:27:11 ER: I picked up a microchip. I pressed c. A list of craftables came up, and one of them was "detector". I scrolled to that and it highlighted the microchip and the tube in my inventory. I clicked the mouse button. Now I have a Detector in my inventory, and thus a circle appears around pipes which hold swarms of zombies waiting to ambush me.
03:27:27 ER: I like this because there's no faffinf with menus really.
03:28:38 ER: your inventory is a list on the left side of the screen at all times, you scroll through it with mouse wheel, if you press c a second list comes up with everything that you can craft using the stuff currently in your inventory.
03:28:54 ER: Fast enough that you can use all this while in combat.
03:29:24 syv: Is it not a pausable game?
03:29:36 ER: it pauses in you open the map
03:38:27 ER: oh yeah, and you can turn six empty cans into a plate, and two plates into armor
03:38:56 ER: so you can make practial armor for yourself out of 12 cans using only your hands
03:39:46 syv: And you can make that armor within a round of combat, then wear it in the next, I presume?
03:40:04 syv: It's thirty degrees below my preferred temp, so YES it's cold.
03:40:14 ER: it's realtime, you make it in a single frame
03:41:29 syv: Yeah, 68 F inside, which is already making me consider a light jacket.
03:47:34 ER: I want to watch some of those videos we've got saved up :(
03:48:29 syv: I think
MJ did say he might be back later tonight, though?
03:48:55 syv: Said he'd have Friday free, at any rate. May have just meant the stream earlier.
03:48:58 ER: want to watch this silly animated RTD~
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03:51:56 syv: ...Huh, 5/5 actions for PS. And I only updated 26 hours ago. This is weird.
03:52:19 syv: What program do you use to join us?
03:56:22 ER: suddenly, I want pizza. great.
03:56:23 syv: ...Whatever it is, you should try
a new one. It's clearly preventing you from saying anything. -.-
03:56:48 syv: Order some? Local dominos is open 'til 0200.
03:59:19 ER: something about that feels like not-our style.
04:01:37 syv: Our? I do it occasionally, when I forget to bring lunch to work. I'd bet you many things that
MJ either orders pizza, or consumes ordered pizza, regularly.
04:02:06 syv:
Dev does seem the sort to sit and suffer while complaining, though.
04:02:08 ER: more like me and the people I live with.
04:02:38 ER: I dunno, guess it's an option, but ordering pizza at this sort of time feels unusual.
04:02:53 syv: Are the other people asleep?
04:04:25 syv: If they aren't, go ask if they want pizza, then order some when they say yes. If they are, then just order some, they'll never know~!
04:13:36 ER: well, talked about suddenly wanting pizza. From there ordering pizza was not the suggested solution, but making pizza.
04:14:42 ER: apparantly local and cheap and good pizza place closes much later than I expected, I could actually walk there and have
a slice.
04:15:51 ER: though, there were homemade cookies available and I just ate two of those so maybe my hungering for dough can be silenced till tomorrow.
04:18:26 syv: I would prolly just order, because I'm paranoid and hate dealing with people. But hey, if you wanna walk and get some pizza, be my guest.
04:18:58 syv: Making pizza is also
a bad idea. Homemade pizza is bad.
04:19:01 ER: 38 degrees, 24 minute walk, 4.65 slice...
04:19:32 syv: Never mind, don't do it, you'll freeze to death. O.O
04:19:49 syv: I like you, I don't want you to freeze!
04:21:34 ER: Already walked through something close to this today.
04:21:56 ER: probably was
a bit warmer at that point, but the sun was still down.
04:22:22 syv: Then your heat reserves are practically exhausted, you can't risk a second run! Don't be
a martyr!
04:22:42 ER: that's not how bodies work.
04:23:23 syv: It's how they work around here.
04:26:17 ER: you live in
a peaceful land, it's inhabitants kind.
04:26:36 ER: florida is a bizzaro pocket verse in
a painting
04:27:12 syv: It means I get
a fuzzy dragon waifu. owo
04:28:37 syv: ((It's a reference to Dark Souls. There's a secret level hidden inside a magical painting, which is full of corpses and particularly dangerous monsters. There's only one friendly NPC in the place,
a giant half-dragon woman, who is fuzzy and says the "peaceful land" line.))
04:29:25 a: well shit I don't nearly hide in
a dark room playing vidya gaems enough, it seems.
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04:30:05 syv: Playing Dark Souls is, like, the entrance requirement for this chatroom.
04:30:39 syv: You don't need to play any other games, but you need to play DaS and DF.
04:30:49 a: oh good at least I sorta play df
04:30:57 ER: I mean, I've played SOME DF...
04:31:00 syv: We ARE from
a DF community.
04:31:09 syv: Meh, I haven't played in over
a year.
04:31:45 a: this game is taking
a long time to download. and I havent even actually downloaded it, this is just the architecture or some shit
04:31:56 a: i don't know computers that well
04:32:14 ER: that probably means the game part is comparativelt tiny.
04:32:19 a: WOLFENSTEIN: ENEMY TERRITORY
04:32:36 syv: Bah, some shooter? PLAY DARK SOULS INSTEAD
04:32:54 a: my computer's way too shit to play that
04:33:02 ER: goodbye refine txt that I haven't touched in months! I'm going on
a pizza adventure!
04:33:18 Elasticly_Rigid: Pizza adventure!
04:33:19 syv: Nooo, don't do it,
ER! ;-;
04:35:27 syv: Meh. I guess I'll work on torturing his magical girl, then.
04:35:32 Elasticly_Rigid: Let's see how many bounces I do on this walk. ;p
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04:36:41 erer: Haha, don't even need to wear gloves.
04:36:46 a: wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt how?
04:37:54 erer: Aw, my last one didn't send because of the bounce.
04:38:04 erer: [23:36] (
Elasticly_Rigid) I'm always Alice
04:38:07 syv: I have magic gloves which let me type on
a phone even while wearing them. They're very nice for those nights when it drops below sixty and I have to go outside.
04:38:25 syv: Well, please don't eat me, Alice.
04:38:50 syv: No, they have little pads on them.
04:38:56 erer: My gloves are also supposed to do that.
04:39:46 syv: Mine are, too, TBH. Still, better than freezing to death.
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04:40:13 erer: Can maybe get a single tap in sometimes, but
a drag, double tap, or two finger drag isn't going up happen
04:40:49 erer: Not good enough for typing
04:41:07 syv: Hey,
erer, are there any clouds in the sky?
04:42:01 syv: ...Oh, wait, your local metar is automated. Well, by chance it's correct anyway.
04:42:04 erer: Brought umbrella anyway, but don't expect it to get used
04:42:57 syv: Forecasts say it'll ve clear through tomorrow, for you.
04:44:56 syv: Clear nights typically are.
04:46:20 erer: Two nights back it was kinda miserable. Had to get a chicken out of
a small tree in the rain
04:47:07 syv: Just shoot it if you need it down so bad.
04:48:39 syv: But really, why'd you have to get a chicken out of
a tree in the rain?
04:48:58 syv: This sounds like an "uphill both ways in the snow" kinda thing.
04:49:18 erer: Well, she's not MY chicken, and I'm being paid to house sit, so that would be
a little rude.
04:49:52 erer: Not
a tall tree, just around my head height
04:50:21 erer: So I could reach, just not get
a good grip.
04:50:35 syv: Ohh. Well, if you were getting paid, it makes
a lot more sense.
04:51:16 syv: I'd probably do the same, though I'd be sure to complain about the horrible creatures.
04:54:52 syv: Adorable kitty chats with naked jackass lady.
05:01:42 syv: ...And
a hot naked lady, too. Huh.
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05:12:52 erer: If only I had mod powers, I could rename you to pizz-
a
05:14:55 syv: Sadly, due to the number of permalurkers, none of us will ever have mod powers.
05:15:07 syv: I had
a chance, long ago, but I didn't take it sadly.
05:15:19 erer: And that's the miracle of pizza
05:16:12 erer: You can just walk
a short distance, show up after midnight, and people just already have pizza being made that you can buy
05:19:55 syv: Pizz is really
a pretty meh food, though.
05:20:07 syv: Pizza too. Pizz is the worst.
05:21:02 erer: You are
a strange person.
05:25:27 syv: I like meat. Steak is amazing. Sushi (not the rice and nonfish bits) is great. Everything else is meh at best, or is candy.
05:26:10 erer: ...What, JUST the meat parts are good?
05:26:56 erer: That's not even, like, a meal. It's
a meal component.
05:28:36 erer: And terribly unbalanced. Should try to get at least two substantially different things in each bite, unless it's
a really basic snack.
05:29:50 syv: Maybe some meats can be
a little improved by cheese or certain condiments, but what makes sushi and steak great is that anything else merely corrupts them.
05:30:12 erer: I mean, the sushi isn't even cooked, so you're just eating some part of an animal with nothing special done to it.
05:30:34 syv: I eat my steak very rare too, so, uh...
05:31:03 erer: The best steak dish for me is steak and eggs. Overeasy, for that nice yolk.
05:31:04 syv: Honestly I'd probably just like it all 100% raw if only that were safe.
05:31:22 syv: Steak and... eggs? Never had that. Maybe I'll try it.
05:31:59 erer: Florida man seen gnawing on an alligator corpse riddled in bullet holes.
05:34:56 syv: Alligators smell horrible. And they don't taste much better.
05:35:28 syv: 're surprisingly not that meaty. Mostly just the tail, which is acceptably palatable.
05:35:45 syv: Also, protected, so hunting them is... inadvisable.
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05:36:41 erer: You going to stick around for... like 28 minutes?
05:37:07 erer: I'm
a walk away from my laptop now, but would like to watch some stuff
05:37:32 syv: You're STILL walking? You need to run, man! Get some heat into that body!
05:37:48 MidJag: Alrighht. I'll be playing some telelgltich, just ping me when your ready.
05:37:51 syv: If you just keep walking, you'll slow down until you stop! Then you'll be dead!
05:39:37 erer: I'm
a mammal with warm blood, unlike Florida man
05:42:14 MidJag: Could stream some teleglitch while we wait
05:48:16 syv: Ehhh. Maybe if you shot the quality to nil. I pay by the GB while using cellular, and have no wifi at all.
05:48:49 MidJag: Ah right. I would be willing to do that, but have frankelly no idea how to do that.
05:49:54 syv: There's some settings in obs, but I forget. It wasn't easy to do, back when I was streaming stuff on sat I had to screw with multiple compounding options to get it low enough.
05:50:13 MidJag: I think I'll just wait, if that's okay
05:50:16 syv: Think I streamed DaS in 360p or something at some point. :\
06:05:07 MidJag:
Er have you walked back?
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06:09:39 ER: actually I think it bounces when I switch from wifi to cell and back, so that was
a sign me me getting back
06:10:34 ER: so, that was like an hour and
a half.
06:10:51 MidJag: It's too cold for walking
ER.
06:11:11 syv: It's
a miracle that you're still alive.
06:11:12 ER: it's really pretty comfortable
06:11:34 syv: Do you have mutant Canadian blood in you or something?
06:12:48 ER: I just come from a temperate place. You know, like
a sane and normal place?
06:14:22 MidJag: There is only summer and not summer here
06:14:42 MidJag: sometimes there is fall but that is
a strange magical time
06:14:49 ER: there's supposed to be four of them, you weirdoes.
06:15:55 syv: We have four seasons! There'
a "Oh god why did the AC have to break, please god have mercy", "Fuckfuckfuck please don't destroy my house, nice Mr/Mrs hurricane!", "God it's cold how is it this cold", and "This is nice."
06:16:26 syv: One of them is even kinda nice.
06:16:36 ER: coldtime, when your balls freeze off, fertiletime, when your spontainiously grow new balls, hottime, when your brain melts, falltime, when you plop over dead from allergies.
06:16:37 MidJag: ^Replace hurricane with tornado and you pretty much have ours
06:17:19 syv: Lucky for me, the only allergies I have are minor ones to cats, so I don't have to suffer seasonally.
06:17:44 syv: Also you might want to have those extra balls checked out.
06:18:07 syv: Despite what the internet may have told you, that's not supposed to happen. Thwy's probably cancer.
06:19:03 syv: Mmmnnoo, no it's probably not.
06:22:49 ER: whatever, let's watch
a thingy
06:23:45 syv:
Dev said that his disfavorite was AoT, but so did
MJ, so I'm unsure what to do here.
06:24:04 MidJag: I'm fine with whatever, though I'll probably be going to bed soon
06:25:20 syv: I have Actually one Train Ep.1 primed.
06:26:00 ER: let's see if this is shitty
06:27:05 ER: (mmm, pizza. and there was fizzy water, too. fizzy water man! great stuff.)
06:27:11 MidJag: one sec, still pulling it up
06:28:39 MidJag: Man, if I was giant and missing all of my skin I'd be really annoyed. Shit would be painful
06:28:52 syv: He doesn't look very happy about it.
06:29:08 MidJag: I dunno, he's got that big smile
06:29:25 syv: Bottom teeth visble, it's fake.
06:29:42 MidJag: Puttting on
a strong face
06:29:57 MidJag: this guy just doesn't seem particuarlly agressive
06:30:09 MidJag: I would jam to this tune
06:30:19 syv: The VAs are really over the top.
06:30:28 syv: Also, yeah, this is genuinely really good.
06:30:36 syv: Sounds vaugely autotuned, but good.
06:31:02 syv: I like how they look like ragdolls.
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06:31:12 MidJag: The people or the giants?
06:31:24 Elasticly_Rigid: Ah, why not use this
06:31:27 syv: The people being yanked around by the grappling hooks.
06:31:36 Elasticly_Rigid: Less alt tabbing
06:32:42 MidJag: Mab, if that dudes dream has that cool of music he needs to lay off the acid :P
06:33:19 syv: Kids are let outside the walls?
06:34:45 MidJag: His dad sounds intresting
06:35:04 syv: "There's
a doctor character! iiinteresting!"
06:35:31 MidJag: I am easily influenced to like doctor characters :P
06:36:07 MidJag: I blame my upbringing. :P
06:36:20 syv: How would they even keep livestock? Livestock take up lots of land, and all their land needs to be walled in.
06:37:36 MidJag: How did they build these walls in the first place?
06:37:51 MidJag: And why can't they expand the walls as they expand?
06:37:59 syv: God did, some preacher said that earlier.
06:38:44 Elasticly_Rigid: Big dudes do
a big kill on little mans.
06:39:04 syv: I kinda like that, really. No wasted effort trying to justify how society evolved and built up, just "Things are like this, don't think about it."
06:39:33 MidJag: I think the abriged is better so far
06:40:12 syv: Mediocre comedy is easier to like than poor drama.
06:40:22 Elasticly_Rigid: Kid said they're like livestock, so the giants probably built the walls to keep the little mans in
06:40:24 MidJag: That abriged was excellent comedy
06:40:32 MidJag: Nothing mediocre about it :P
06:40:56 syv: Abridged series are derivative parodies.
06:41:51 Elasticly_Rigid: Damn, I don't like that voice. Why didn't you give us
a sub? >:/
06:42:05 MidJag: I think
a sub would be worse
06:42:06 syv: Because I hate Japanese voices?
06:42:31 syv: At least the kid's voice will probably be changed later when he's older.
06:42:41 MidJag: I'm not sure he gets older
06:42:45 syv: The Jap voices will be squeaky the whole time.
06:43:52 syv: Of course they run from the little girl.
06:44:07 MidJag: it's an anime, there is nothing stronger than
a little girl
06:45:29 syv: Big thoughts coming from
a ten year old.
06:46:19 Elasticly_Rigid: Ah, of course everything important is going to happen in one day.
06:46:41 MidJag: That gives me idea for an MP beast.
06:47:47 MidJag: Oh so the little guys are like braindead zombies, the skinless guys are smart
06:47:57 Elasticly_Rigid: Oh shit the show called attack on titan involves titans and attacks
06:48:38 MidJag: I like this music direction
06:48:52 syv: It has good music if nothing else.
06:49:59 Elasticly_Rigid: Just kill the thing
06:50:31 MidJag: Shed probably bleed to death if you got the weight off here anwyay
06:51:37 MidJag: Okay, that was pretty metal.
06:51:42 syv: Okay, any show which has children watching their parents be eaten alive in the first episode has me.
06:52:10 Elasticly_Rigid: Watching credits at least once
06:52:10 syv: Credit song isn't as good.
06:52:59 MidJag: song turend pretty good
06:53:19 MidJag: It need some heavier riffs, but it would have potential
06:53:23 Elasticly_Rigid: Where we're going we won't need shirts!
06:53:38 MidJag: Shirts are for the weak.
06:54:00 Elasticly_Rigid: Ready and able.
06:54:39 MidJag: I still feel like cannons would work against these
06:54:45 syv: Nyeh. And now they gotta justify stuff.
06:55:01 syv: They're basically invulnerable to normal weapons.
06:55:08 MidJag: Damn, I love that credit
06:55:34 Elasticly_Rigid: Gotta be magic, or else they'd collapse. :p
06:56:12 MidJag: I need some more japenese metal. I've got a shit ton german finish Greek and
a couple of other like south american and one or two african ones, but nothing decent from japan yet
06:56:12 Elasticly_Rigid: Oh, the was
a common there
06:56:54 MidJag: Maybe the kid will be less annoying now that he has all that massive amount of PTSD
06:57:40 syv: All the titans look so happy! :D
06:57:48 syv: Jap metal. I have
a little.
06:58:47 Elasticly_Rigid: Annoying trauma
06:59:29 MidJag: I think your mother died due to
a massive crushing force, but tomato tomatoe :P
06:59:36 Elasticly_Rigid: I am Pathos. You are Pathos
06:59:56 MidJag: This is
a weird tech level
07:00:48 Elasticly_Rigid: Don't those suits have rockets?
07:01:02 syv: Nope. Just grappling hooks.
07:01:15 syv: I think they may have some air burst launch things too, unsure?
07:01:25 syv: We've seen thwm before,
MJ.
07:01:56 syv: There's more atop the ealls.
07:02:27 MidJag: That guy just looks like he's trying to rember where his keys are
07:03:03 syv: Axtually that's literally the job of soldiers.
07:03:39 MidJag: That guy looks like he doesn't skip leg day]
07:04:00 Elasticly_Rigid: Someone needs to do
a sweet graph hook slice on these things already.
07:04:43 MidJag: I wanna see something die to grappling hooks alreadyt
07:05:01 Elasticly_Rigid: And so all was in vain. :D
07:05:16 MidJag: He also looks steam powered :P
07:05:22 syv: This IS taking awhile to get to some action.
07:05:40 Elasticly_Rigid: This doesn't count as action?
07:05:41 MidJag: how big are these damn walls?
07:06:09 MidJag: IS all of humanity just in one wall?
07:07:17 syv: The inner walls get taller and thicker, too.
07:07:29 MidJag: Which does make sense I suppose
07:07:41 MidJag: Wait, how did they get on?
07:07:43 Elasticly_Rigid: Time to become unreasonably strong.
07:08:12 syv: "MUST KILL EVERYTHING" is
a great character motivation!
07:08:16 Elasticly_Rigid: Try to find a cat thingy to give you power, cause you're just
a kid.
07:09:09 syv: WHY MUST THE BELLS BE 3D GAHH
07:09:11 MidJag: Apperentlly his dad has
a lot of secrets in that cellar.
07:10:13 Elasticly_Rigid: Think I saw the key before
07:11:04 Elasticly_Rigid: Jeez, he gets angry
07:11:28 MidJag: To be fair, he did just see his mom die in front of him
07:11:43 MidJag: I think most would be fairly angry.
07:11:55 Elasticly_Rigid: Before that too
07:12:13 syv: Checked, no key in E1. No necklace either.
07:12:45 MidJag: His sister is
a lot smarter then him
07:13:11 Elasticly_Rigid: Sociopath gril is best
07:13:27 MidJag: ...Is't she his sister?
07:14:29 MidJag: I dunno if that was intentional but it was pretty funny
07:14:35 syv: Man, soldiers are just worthless in this show.
07:14:42 syv: Need some plot armored soldiers.
07:15:02 Elasticly_Rigid: Well, they're fighting silly invincible things
07:15:03 syv: I cannot see how they could put that in there and NOT have it be intentional.
07:15:04 MidJag: I think they just need to actually get some way to I dunno maybe kill some titans.
07:15:25 syv: They do have
a way. Sword to the back of the neck.
07:15:39 syv: That's, just... not super practical.
07:15:48 MidJag: Also, is she his sister? I'm now unclear on this.
07:16:00 Elasticly_Rigid: I'm saying yes
07:16:06 syv: They lived in the same house.
07:16:18 MidJag: Man, that's
a long training period
07:16:35 syv: But I hesitate to say yes, because I have the disinct feeling she's gonna be protag's girlfriend.
07:16:52 syv: Well, they do have to learn how to fly with grappling hooks.
07:16:55 MidJag: Their realtionship just feels weird.
07:17:11 Elasticly_Rigid: Gotta be stupid skilled to actually do the neck cut thingy, because it's
a frikking midair neck cut
07:17:22 MidJag: That's now just going to be
a saying of mine
07:17:56 Elasticly_Rigid: System primed!
07:18:39 Elasticly_Rigid: Protag's girlfriend is going to be BLOOD AND MURDER
07:18:53 MidJag: God, that credits scene is still just awesome
07:19:27 MidJag: I kinda want to find
a book where someones SO is literally just the incarnation of violence
07:19:35 syv: I really, really hope the show grows to be worthy of this awesome intro.
07:19:56 syv: Well, I *might* know of something like that,
MJ.
07:22:09 MidJag: Ah the MP's. Are they just eternally dicks in all media?
07:25:04 MidJag: First day's actually have some of the higest dropout rates for stuff in general
07:26:07 syv: I reaaally hope E3 isn't just more buildup.
07:26:32 MidJag: IIRC from the abriged it took
a long ass time for actual fighting
07:30:14 syv: "NO NO I AM NOT NICE DON'T THINK I'M NICE D:"
07:31:36 Elasticly_Rigid: Training montage!
07:32:29 MidJag: I wonder if that would be like wakeboarding.
07:32:36 syv: I am short, so I have
a natural advantage. ;P
07:32:57 syv: Eh, wakeboarding is mostly just pushing your feet in front of you.
07:33:47 MidJag: Honestlly just watching the adentures of potato girl would be awesome
07:34:14 syv: I want to argue, but you kinda have
a point.
07:34:34 Elasticly_Rigid: Looks like he suddenly flips due to
a panic attack
07:34:58 MidJag: So one dudes like
a social revolutionsit, the other dude want's to just kill shit
07:37:45 MidJag: and I guess the animation budget was shot for
a second there
07:38:06 Elasticly_Rigid: If you're not cut out to be a soldier, run away and be
a mercenary!
07:40:36 MidJag: heh. I think Arins just gay for the other dude :P
07:40:59 MidJag: Damn this music is good
07:41:05 syv: It looks like they have fart propulsion.
07:41:27 Elasticly_Rigid: Okay sure I like this
07:41:53 Elasticly_Rigid: System primed~
07:44:43 Elasticly_Rigid: Didn't see the countdown for some reason
07:47:13 syv: Need to look up the lyrics for this.
07:47:47 Elasticly_Rigid: The only lyrics ya gotta know
07:48:04 Elasticly_Rigid: Well I wanna be the hunter not the hunted
07:48:31 MidJag: This is my last one dudes
07:48:38 syv: I can sing along to that entire song flawlessly while listening, but ask me the lyrics without the tune playing and I've got no idea.
07:49:46 syv: And thar is how you knock yourself down.
07:50:11 syv: "Here's their RPG stats, and how they're balanced."
07:51:25 syv: They have different last names.
07:51:38 MidJag: The other dude, determinator.
07:52:37 MidJag: Sufficent artilery will solve just about any problem :P
07:53:38 syv: Oh, I know this spoiler already.
07:54:16 MidJag: Why does this guy just suck at everything? He should probably be naturally good at something in this.
07:54:36 syv: Protag? There's always gonna be
a flunkie.
07:54:55 syv: Doesn't mean they can't be the interesting protag.
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07:58:04 MidJag: Ah, and now we see why he hasn't failed out yet
07:59:01 MidJag: I fucking love this drill sergant
07:59:19 MidJag: ...She really enjoys forcing people to eat bread
08:00:14 MidJag: Right, that's what I found so weird
08:00:21 syv: Great dub, they didn't even sub the Japanese words. -.-
08:00:38 syv: He's not great at anything, he's *just* good enough at everything.
08:01:38 Elasticly_Rigid: Better survival chances behind a sword than behind
a wall. Simple.
08:01:54 MidJag: How many speeches does this show have?
08:02:06 Elasticly_Rigid: The the offense, the possibility of victory.
08:02:15 MidJag: We've had like three motivsational speeches in as many episddoes
08:02:54 Elasticly_Rigid: Oh, we're doing this again.
08:03:02 syv: There is not enough violence.
08:03:05 MidJag: See, they arnen't siblings
08:03:10 syv: Also, "your mom". Not sister.
08:03:40 Elasticly_Rigid: He said "my mom" like 2 episodes ago.
08:03:42 syv: She was just raised eith him under the same roof, but not blood related, so the inevitable (DRAMATIC) romance isn't incest. Of course.
08:03:57 MidJag: It's only like mostly insect
08:04:02 syv: She said "your", he said "my".
08:04:39 Elasticly_Rigid: Eh, she probably didn't live there.
08:05:03 syv: She was shown eating in the same house, and also has never mentioned her own parents or family at all.
08:05:38 syv: I could see it. It'd be nice if they SAID that.
08:05:47 MidJag: I fucking love this potato girl
08:06:01 Elasticly_Rigid: Potato girl is bae
08:06:11 MidJag: her single minded obsession with food is hilarious.
08:06:31 syv: The sexual tone of it is disconcerting, though.
08:06:40 Devastator: Nakeen continuing to do nothing?
08:06:50 syv: Uhh, no, Asha's attacking.
08:07:10 MidJag: I don't think that red'sn is sexual tone, more of justb blacks way of shoving things in peoples mouth
08:07:41 Elasticly_Rigid: Dramatically monologing, suddenly titan
08:08:46 syv: One more episode, pleeeease?
08:09:02 Elasticly_Rigid: Fight time fight time
08:09:47 MidJag:
MJ checks his watch, fuck it sure, This makes it so I haven't gone to bed before two for an entire week. Which is I think is getting close to
a record for me.
08:10:40 MidJag: Wait, one sec, 5 isn't in the same folder as the other 4 for some reasons
08:10:40 syv: Come on Jaggers, ready up!
08:10:49 syv: ...Did you not download it?
08:11:03 syv: I only uploaded four at first, the rest were uploaded separately.
08:11:15 MidJag: I'm pretty sure I downloaded it.
08:12:25 syv: ...Oh, don't google questions about this show. Spoilers abound, apparently.
08:13:48 Elasticly_Rigid: Why did you end the first folder of episodes on
a cliffhanger,
sy? ;P
08:14:00 syv: Four episodes is what would fit!
08:14:07 MidJag: I'm looking in it. I have all of Jormund, all of FS and the raders of the lost ark.
08:14:15 MidJag: Hmm, once sec. one last place
08:19:24 syv:
MJ says it'll take 5 mins to DL.
08:19:44 syv: So... Hey
Dev! How are you?
08:20:00 Devastator: I missed Nak's post.
08:20:17 MidJag: That was
a lot shorter to DL then expecte
08:20:21 Devastator: somewhat annoying, I was going to actually kill her body if she did nothing for another turn.
08:20:37 Devastator: also I'm getting fairly impressed at the power of berzerker.
08:20:45 MidJag: oh shit,
Dev, i will get you that turn later tonight or tommorow if tha'ts okay
08:20:50 syv: Oh,
Dev, Alida has two bodies right now. One in the taxi, one on the ground.
08:20:59 MidJag: I'm really sorry, my lifes been hectic latelly
08:21:14 Devastator: oh, I thought it was one that stayed next to Asha, and one that missed the taxi and ended up on the ground.
08:21:23 Devastator: but if there's one on the taxi that's going to be fun.
08:22:15 syv: Yes, her perception of reality is just fucked. But she made it. Something onboard pulled her up.
08:22:29 MidJag: or least less talking and weird simulation of oral sex with bread.
08:22:44 Devastator: no offense, but if she can crush metal with her bare hands, and this is before berzerker doubling in power and CC,,'
08:22:46 Elasticly_Rigid: Trying to use two bodies at once while high
08:23:05 Devastator: well, turning into
a werewolf is going to be properly absurd.
08:23:09 syv: (
syv) Her perception of reality is just fucked.
08:23:32 MidJag: I do like the ragdoll movement
08:23:36 Devastator: That was the other theory.
08:23:37 syv: Note also Tooru's perspective, her rifle-strength shot blew
a large hole in it.
08:23:51 Devastator: still should have full-powered it.
08:23:54 MidJag: It very much looks lke they're more just graveuflly being dragged
08:24:07 syv: It is excellent animation.
08:24:23 MidJag: I read a book that had
a similar movement system
08:24:46 syv: I'd love to know which. I love this movement system.
08:24:59 Devastator: I'd also like to confirm that she's unaware of any civilians.
08:25:01 MidJag: Stormlight archives. Long as hell
08:25:31 MidJag: and
a dude can fly by manipulaitng gravity so he's dragged one way or another and falls in the right direction
08:26:07 MidJag: No he's dead you can tell from the giant naked corpse
08:26:17 syv: I'm sure I've seen that gravity-flight somewhere.
08:26:25 Elasticly_Rigid: Shows up to smash shit and fucks off
08:26:36 MidJag: He's just
a kinda bored douchebag
08:26:52 MidJag: Likes to kick
a wall every now and then.
08:27:13 MidJag: I just feel like cannons would be very useful here
08:27:16 Elasticly_Rigid: And takes out the cannons
08:27:23 syv: These were different cannons.
08:27:25 MidJag: Like more useful then they seem to be
08:27:28 syv: They had
a wall behind them.
08:28:23 syv: How does a cannon blast shave
a head?
08:28:24 MidJag: huh, so they're like stone and flesh golems
08:28:46 Elasticly_Rigid: Have steam inside em?
08:28:51 MidJag: they also seem really fucking dumb
08:28:54 syv: ...God damn it, that was all for the action?
08:29:04 syv: The titans have zero intelligence, yeah.
08:29:20 MidJag: oh my god this show needs to kill something
08:30:12 MidJag: I cant tell if picties is
a badass name or stupid name
08:30:52 syv: Wow, this king is
a massive jerk.
08:31:00 MidJag: I dunno, it sounds like pict. which is badass
08:31:21 Elasticly_Rigid: Time to assemble the guillotine~
08:31:57 syv: You don't decapitate the general of the military after he personally takes to the battlefield to save his men.
08:32:28 Elasticly_Rigid: No, you just decapitate the king
08:33:01 syv: God, when will they stop whinging?
08:33:07 Elasticly_Rigid: Time to maximize the kill
08:33:26 MidJag: I do kina like this it. Just showing them all getting really fucking anxious about the whole possibly dying.
08:33:52 syv: We've had FOUR EPISODES of this already, though. Pacing, man, PACING>
08:34:11 syv: Pacing is what separates good shows from amazing shows.
08:34:19 MidJag: I read 900 page books. There is no such thing as pacing :P
08:34:29 Devastator: Other than name of the wind. ;-p
08:34:34 syv: No, you just have no sense of chronological quality.
08:34:38 Devastator: Also,
MJ, were you there for Starcrash?
08:34:47 Devastator: How was the pacing there?
08:35:26 MidJag: But I do agree
syv, this is getting to be
a bit much
08:35:41 MidJag: this is like walking dead paceing
08:35:41 syv: NotW has decent pacing, but more for the type of story it is. It doesn't feel like it's going somewhere, it feels like
a biography that you're meant to experience.
08:35:55 syv: Yeah, another show I had the same issue with.
08:36:58 syv: Yeah, nothing will happen in this episode.
08:37:22 MidJag: Oh my god lets have something happen.
08:38:00 MidJag: I feel like you may have been able to set up like an ambush system with cannons here
08:38:17 syv: They may not have discovered rifling.
08:38:51 Devastator: They may not have discovered pacing.
08:39:08 MidJag: Oh my god are they going to kill something?
08:40:40 MidJag: I thinkhe just got gut shot
08:41:05 Elasticly_Rigid: Victory: not in reach.
08:41:09 syv: Protag lost
a leg in his first fight.
08:41:18 MidJag: I was not expecting this to actually happen.
08:42:06 Elasticly_Rigid: ...No, obviously flashback
08:42:18 syv: Yes, but it'll be
a nightmare.
08:42:35 syv: He's been having nightmares the whole show, all to set this up.
08:42:46 syv: They can't kill the whole cast in one minute.
08:43:20 MidJag: I thought he was bleeidng from like his stomach
08:43:34 syv: No, he lost his left shin.
08:44:02 syv: They actually killed the protag!
08:44:07 MidJag: I knew this was going to happen from the abriged but still
08:44:32 syv: ...I thought you only say the abridged for E1?
08:44:42 syv: Do you know the whole damn plot?
08:44:50 MidJag: I acutlaly only know up to here
08:44:59 syv: ...Kay then. Less than me, I guess.
08:44:59 MidJag: Which I thought was the entire season
08:45:15 syv: Well, probably time to stop.
08:45:21 MidJag: I really want to see blacks reaction to this
08:45:50 MidJag: whole set is downloaded
08:46:14 Elasticly_Rigid: System primed, then
08:46:50 MidJag: but this is actually 100% for real this time my last one.
08:47:06 Elasticly_Rigid: Hope you realize that the end of this one will still be just as much of
a cliffhanger. :P
08:47:17 MidJag: If I suggest carying on someone please tell me that's
a horrible iea
08:47:19 syv: Meh, the last one wasn't
a cliffhanger.
08:47:48 MidJag: I just want to see blacks reaction to her potential semi insecutal love intrest death
08:48:06 syv: Hahah, okay, you cannot spell that word.
08:48:11 Devastator: she'll just clone herself next episode and make out with herself.
08:48:59 MidJag: Yeah, but I feel like she would just stuff bread into her mouth and stare at each other.
08:49:20 Devastator: Anyone read Redshirts?
08:49:31 MidJag: I need to. But I haven't
08:50:11 Devastator: It features Lieutenant Commander Kerenski meeting the actor who plays him.
08:50:29 Devastator: everyone accuses them of getting into some weird love affair.
08:51:12 MidJag: This is the walking dead of Anime I think
08:51:22 syv: This is just how the show works, isn't it?
A minute or two of AWESOME, then more whinging.
08:51:26 Elasticly_Rigid: Gotta maximize Pathos first
08:52:10 MidJag: I do like the pathos honestlly.
08:52:39 MidJag: I'm delerious so I'm pretty easily entertained.
08:52:54 Devastator: It also features four redshirts kidnapping said Lieutenant Commander because they figure the time travel physics won't work if they don't have
a main character present.
08:53:25 MidJag: Man, everyone in this is fucked.
08:53:33 Devastator: figuratively or literally?
08:54:00 MidJag: Oh god it's like
a toddler when it sees something it might be able to kill itself with
08:54:48 syv: This is not how you do bad people.
08:54:52 MidJag: Just kill him. Brutally preferably.
08:55:10 MidJag: I like the thing with armin completely shutting down though
08:55:49 syv: He should've ended up dead.
08:56:01 Elasticly_Rigid: Solve all your problems with violence!
08:56:02 syv: No payoff for him being
a jerk.
08:56:29 MidJag: ....? I'm talking about Armin shutting down being good
08:56:47 syv: And I was talking about the guy just bscking down.
08:57:30 Elasticly_Rigid: I'll just go back 10 sec
08:57:31 syv: Tell me when you two are primed.
08:58:17 Elasticly_Rigid: Flashback time
08:58:39 MidJag: I was hopeing to actually see her present day emotions
08:58:55 syv: Oh. She just did
a black and was meh the whole time.
08:59:13 syv: She mentioned that she dulled her blades, then discarded them.
08:59:47 MidJag: I think the little girl killed everyone
09:00:21 MidJag: I dunno, this sound design is amazing
09:00:22 syv: The little girl is Black, and he adopts her, then survives.
09:02:03 Elasticly_Rigid: Oh see there's plenty of murder here
09:02:07 MidJag: I see. So this is why black is completley fucking desentizied
09:02:28 Elasticly_Rigid: Maximum trauma
09:02:53 syv: Also what you get if you stand there and look empty, apparently.
09:04:07 MidJag: I'm more just curious how he found them
09:04:10 Elasticly_Rigid: Too bad he's dead~
09:04:26 syv: So that's why she loves him.
09:05:11 Elasticly_Rigid: Now she gets to kill
09:06:20 Elasticly_Rigid: The cycle of liiiiiife
09:06:41 syv: No, he showed up later, before. Wasn't eaten.
09:07:02 Elasticly_Rigid: WELL I WANNA HE THE HUNTER NOT THE HUNTED
09:07:23 Devastator: Hey, there's time travel.
09:07:27 Devastator: anyone could have eaten anyone.
09:08:24 MidJag: Does Jaeger just inject everyone with super adrenaline?
09:08:39 MidJag: Because that would explain so much
09:09:00 syv: She's still wearing that isn't she? Obligatory memento.
09:10:01 MidJag: What if Jaeger just enjoys makeing like superhumans without actually telling them, leading them to wonder what the hell is going on when they regularly punch through stone walls when get annoyed.
09:10:24 MidJag: okay, fuck it. that does explain the knife
09:10:40 Devastator: That would be an interesting plotline.
09:10:50 Devastator: "You must make supersoldiers, but none of them can know what you are doing."
09:10:59 Devastator: Might make
a decent forum game.
09:11:37 Devastator: That might work with your split player/playee situation..
09:11:47 ER: (I wanna be the killer, not the prey!)
09:12:28 Devastator:
ER and
MJ, presumably.
09:12:58 ER: is this what happens when you go out for a slice of pizza at 11 and then watch
a bunch of anime?
09:13:00 Devastator: you have two random dudes in some world, and two other dudes from
a hidden forum trying to give them stuff or something.
09:13:36 MidJag: I really want to like AOT it just doesnt seem to want to let me.
09:14:11 ER: sure, it's MOSTLY pathos, but if that's what they wanna focus on I'm gonna let em
09:15:00 MidJag: Like I dunno, I like parts of the pathos. But only the bits that deal with the fact that three main chars are all dealing with really traumatic shit
09:15:21 ER: They want it to look like it's about the fights, but the fights were just bait for MORE FEELS
09:15:53 syv: It annoys me frequently, but weakly, and the indulgent bits are stupid but amusing all the same.
09:16:03 MidJag has left #einsteinianroulette
09:16:05 ER: also something something natural cycle hunter hunted
09:16:12 syv: Plus, the excessive pathos is paid ofd by them just suddenly killing like half the cast in
a minute.
09:16:18 Devastator: that's worth
a few points.
09:16:24 Devastator: do they come back next episode?
09:16:38 syv: And then showing
a guy just completely breaking down and crying, which is also good.
09:17:08 syv: Next episode is about the girlfriend going over why and how much she loves the guy that we just saw get eaten.
09:17:14 ER: but yeah black girl looks like the actual protaganist.
09:17:41 ER: Could have guessed that from the credits animation, really.
09:17:54 ER: ...And the fact that she's the skilled one.
09:17:54 syv: She's
a better character. Bit sueish, but the previous protag is just waaay too generic.
09:18:20 ER: Well. His defining characteristic was getting REALLY REALLY mad
09:18:34 syv: Which is, like very generic?
09:18:37 ER: berserkers are always good characters~
09:18:54 Devastator: how about ones that are currently high?
09:19:15 syv: It's basically THE thing with action anime, the young hotblooded dude who's the underdog but is SO MAD that he just determinators through it.
09:19:18 ER: like, what if everyone is high? woah, man
09:19:43 ER: Yeah, he sure determenatored himself to death.
09:20:03 ER: Like, that's actually what killed him!
09:20:03 syv: Sit there in the jaws and monolouge, why doncha.
09:20:22 syv: He was missing
a leg though, he was done regardless.
09:21:10 syv: He just saved his buddy's life, pulling him out of the throat. Then I think he monolouged in bullet time. Was Armin being thrown through the air at the time,
ER?
09:21:36 syv: I feel like decoy!protag got out an entire paragraph while his bud was in the air.
09:23:23 syv: Meh. Speechifying in bullet time is another trope.
09:23:30 ER: But yeah, he actually did something pretty impressive there, it just directly resulted in his death
09:23:58 ER: Pulled his buddy out of the giant's throat.
09:23:58 syv: Which is exactly how that type of character should end up!
09:24:45 Devastator: so berzerkers should end up dead.
09:24:55 Devastator: or guys who monologue in bullet-time should end up dead?
09:25:05 syv: Emotion isn't a substitute for skill. Unless you're
a magical girl.
09:25:11 ER: For some reason I want to see saitama waltz through and punch everything to death though.
09:25:19 ER: Just for everyone's reactions
09:25:30 syv: That's what's great about saitama, really.
09:25:35 syv: And there's not enough of that.
09:25:45 syv: There's not even enough of that in OPM.
09:26:33 ER: Yes, emotion is only
a substitute for skill if you have magic which does that. ;P
09:26:43 Devastator: Well, next season's coming out this spring.
09:27:02 Devastator: There's at least two encounters where Saitama just punches something that hits him while he's walking down the street.
09:27:06 syv: Are you gonna connive to make me watch it, too?
09:27:08 ER: Um, I didn't keep track of which one was potato
09:27:16 Devastator: Nah. Probably just ask you if you want to watch it.
09:27:45 ER: ...was potato the one trying to CPR
a dead dude?
09:28:28 syv: I think potato girl only loves food.
09:28:41 Devastator: including, but not limited to potatoes?
09:29:02 ER: Maybe she got killed in the 5 seconds during which everyone died.
09:29:54 ER: melee nhilist girl survived.
09:32:27 syv: I love that Richard Stallman is the one who eats Armin.
09:32:43 ER: (aka she wasn't in the squad that was totally wiped out, but sure)
09:32:53 syv: And no, Potato girl isn't one of the five second deaths.
09:34:30 ER: I wonder if a ballista could kill
a titan
09:35:06 syv: If it hit the nape of the neck, I imagine so.
09:35:43 ER: Even if the grappling hooks are basically magic, I'd think there's be a more efficent method than ballistally throwing a human with
a sword at it.
09:36:23 ER: Make giant saw blades and put the magic grappling lines on them
09:36:59 syv: The grappling hooks are magic, so maybe they're expensive, but everything else is barebones. A harness,
a few clearly disposable and low quality swords.
09:37:19 syv: You have to put enough power behind the blade to make it penetrate.
09:37:26 ER: Training... doesn't seem cheap.
09:37:44 syv: It's manpower and time, not resources. If you've got lives, they can be soldiers.
09:38:16 ER: Give em climbing picks then
09:38:26 ER: just go full imperial guard
09:38:48 syv: The titans would swat them off like mosquitos.
09:39:12 ER: But if you have a big enough swarm
a few would make it to the neck
09:39:16 syv: The titans are fast enough to catch people flying through the air at very high velocities, they can deal with climbing infantry.
09:39:27 Devastator: so why not use
a tank?
09:39:44 syv: They have magic grappling hooks, and unrifled cannons.
09:39:58 syv: They otherwise use horses and carts for transport.
09:40:08 Devastator: big things don't like falling.
09:40:13 ER: ...dammit, I guess if the best stuff you have is magic grappling hooks, that's what you need to use.
09:40:40 syv: The big things are invulnerable. They regenerate entire body parts in minutes, as long as the nape of the neck isn't destroyed.
09:40:43 ER: Well, hole might do better than the wall
09:40:53 syv: Holes would work well enough if they couldn't climb up it, though.
09:41:20 ER: Big one can probably just step over it though
09:41:38 syv: The problem is digging
a deep enough, large enough hole. And they got their super high walls by magic too.
09:41:41 Devastator: probably make it easier to get to said neck.
09:42:15 ER: Find titan's natural predator! :P
09:42:23 syv: They do neatly prevent plot holes by having it state right out "They got this by magic, and that's the state of things."
09:43:39 syv: I don't got to explain shit.
09:43:40 ER: still think ballistas might do better than cannons though.
09:43:53 Devastator:
ER, you can fire ballista-things from cannons.
09:44:01 ER: Might be able to spear them down and immobilized them
09:44:11 syv: Ballistae can be more accurate than unrifled cannons, no?
09:44:30 ER: probably. Is it stated they're unrifled?
09:44:41 syv: They clearly are by how inaccurate they are.
09:44:51 ER: The ones at the start kept missing, and were stated to be "old as sin"
09:44:58 Devastator: Unrifled cannons suck for accuracy, but so did ballistae.
09:44:59 syv: If they were rifled then they should be doing way better.
09:45:03 ER: maybe rifing was invented more recently then
09:45:12 syv: If so, why didn't they HAVE it?
09:45:32 ER: At the start? weren't expecting
a fight.
09:45:52 syv: Why do they exist if you're not gonna use them?
09:46:25 syv: Rifled cannons aren't even that massive of an investment. They didn't have many to begin with, just updating their supply shouldn't have been an issue.
09:46:31 syv: ...Maybe they have
a metal ahortage,
09:46:36 Devastator: The first couple could be hard.
09:46:38 ER: The precaution of your grandparent's generation which you mostly ignore and provide
a tiny bit of funding for
09:46:53 Devastator: It's hard to be that short of metal to not have any.
09:47:03 Devastator: Cannons aren't small, but they aren't that big.
09:47:18 syv: The other issue is that you need to fire from behind.
09:47:39 ER: But yeah, the people shooting the cannons in the first 1-2 episodes pretty much say "these are inaccurate because they're old and poorly maintained"
09:47:42 syv: Have to hit the spine, and titans are thick enough that penetration would be an issue.
09:47:55 Devastator: Could you use chain shot?
09:48:02 Devastator: wrap around the neck?
09:48:24 syv: Also, they're like ten feet thick.
09:48:32 ER: Would
a clean decapitation kill?
09:48:49 syv: I imagine, but that's
a LOT of flesh to cut through.
09:48:58 Devastator: yeah, but ten feet of flesh.
A cannon shot to thr front of the neck should get to the back of the neck, easy.
09:49:03 ER: Put glass serrated disc traps at neck level, dwarf sttyle
09:49:20 syv: But will it have the energy to actually destroy much?
09:49:31 Devastator: and if not, heated shot.
09:49:43 ER: just use whatever powers the magical grappling hooks
09:49:49 Devastator: Yeah. They're on defense, aren't they?
09:50:08 Devastator: should be able to do it then.
09:50:33 Devastator: hit the neck, it either goes through or it burns lots of flesh around where it gets stuck.
09:50:49 syv: And then the titan regenerates all that flesh in seconds.
09:52:16 syv: These are enemies that run as fast as people, more or less linearly upscaled to 20 meter monsters. You gotta aim
a shot to the neck, which is aligned correctly to hit and sever the spine on the other side of the neck, and if you miss it does literally nothing.
09:52:18 Devastator: well, you gotta try something.
09:52:31 ER: and they REALLY want to make sure you know that the only practical way to get a killshot is by using grappling hooks and foot mounted jets to get up to the base of the spine and slice it open with
a sword.
09:52:38 syv: They do try something. They give people magic grappling hooks that let them fly, along with swords.
09:52:50 syv: It is as cheap
a solution as you could make.
09:52:57 Devastator: Assuming you have magic, yeah.
09:53:12 Devastator: why not just make the swords themselves fly?
09:53:14 ER: assuming you don't have magic, you're turbofucked
09:53:25 syv: But a show saying "This is what they have, and that's that" gets
a pass.
09:53:28 ER: because the enemy DOES have magic
09:53:38 syv: In PM3, why couldn't the wishes just turn out well,
Dev?
09:54:34 syv: Bunnycat could just... not be
a dick, though.
09:54:44 Devastator: Sadly, nobody wished for that.
09:54:48 syv: Like Pumsy. Pumsy is nice.
09:55:06 syv: Nobody wished for Bunnycat to be
a dick, either.
09:55:19 Devastator: You certain about that?
09:55:20 syv: He freed Sophia, didn't he? :3
09:55:30 Devastator: that nobody wished for bunnycat to be
a dick?
09:55:42 ER: I think that wishing for bunnycat to be
a dick was an implied part of whatever wish created the universe
09:57:04 ER: In fact, "I wish that bunnycat were
a dick" was probably the very first wish ever made, which created the original universe
09:57:51 syv: Point is, if
a story wants to set up something, and starts out by explaining the rules of its universe, then does not change them... well, that's totally fair. If people get magic X, and that's explicit from the start, you don't get to complain about how magic Y would fix all their problems.
09:58:07 Devastator: but it's me, I always think that.
09:58:41 syv: Ehhh, if ballistae aren't more accurate, they wouldn't help.
09:59:00 syv: Cannons destroy
a LOT of material.
09:59:04 Devastator: It was too good to worry about stuff like that, though.
09:59:30 ER: destroying material does no good if it regenerates in seconds
09:59:42 syv: AoT has
a lot of thinking downtime where you're waiting for the whinging to stop.
09:59:52 ER: best to leave material in place where it can be inconveneint to the enemy
10:00:01 syv: It doesn't regen if the spine is part of said material.
10:00:04 ER: pin their arms to their chest
10:00:13 syv: That's
a fair idea, actually.
10:00:46 syv: Giant, artillery-size bolas would work great. Or at least far better than any of their solutions.
10:01:10 ER: You know what would be great here?~
10:01:15 syv: Pull
a Star Wars, have the flying people just loop some cables around the titans' feet.
10:01:49 ER: Yeah, I was thinking of empire strikes back type solutions
10:02:31 ER: Hell, maybe they'll acually come up with some of this stuff in the show. Or maybe they'll be boring and just do lots of spine slice.
10:02:36 Devastator: artillery-sized bolos..
10:02:45 Devastator: sounds okay, assuming the bolos don't split.
10:02:50 Devastator: but yeah, trips should be good.
10:02:53 syv: It's hard to call spine slicing boring,
ER.
10:03:17 ER: Compared to tactical innovation?
10:03:39 syv: ...Man, I'm
a tinker addict and even I don't think that's more exciting than spine slicing.
10:03:43 ER: It's boring if you just do the same thing every time but with varying levels of screaming and trauma.
10:03:55 syv: More interesting and fun, but it's not less boring.
10:04:37 syv: I will never get tired of videos of people being shot and dying with varying levels of screaming and trauma.
10:04:51 syv: Blades are more boring, but that's just 'cause they're not my thing.
10:04:55 ER: See, lightsabers are awesome, but just using them normally gets old so that's why we have people throwing lightsabers now.
10:05:14 syv: Lightsabers started out as boring and stupid, frankly.
10:06:13 Devastator:
A phrase said only by people who don't have one.
10:06:35 syv: Yes. Because nobody actually has one.
10:06:52 syv: Oh,
Dev, last shift I watched another couple episodes of moemon.
10:06:53 ER: What if it was AoT, but they used rifles instead of swords
10:07:40 syv: I mean, I LOVE guns, but I think it would be
a lot harder to do what the show does, with guns.
10:08:43 syv: I hold to the position that I could enjoy watching a show that has no plot or sense to it, but is just
a bunch of high-res shots of guns, often being fired.
10:08:59 syv: Literal gun pornography. Just
a plotless orgy of gun violence.
10:09:19 ER: YOU JUST TUNED IN TO... THE GUN CHANNEL [explosion sound]
10:09:54 syv: Really though, this is what some of my trips to Youtube, and ALL of my trips to IMFDB, are.
10:10:55 Devastator: Parts of it (moemon) get pretty boring.
10:11:55 Devastator: pokemon where all the pokemon are anime girls.
10:12:04 ER: maybe I should lie down now ^_^'
10:12:09 syv: Pokemon romhack where all the sprites are replaced by guns.
10:13:20 syv: I wonder if I could just *DO* that. I'm not
a sprite artist, but getting tons of images of pixellated firearms shouldn't be too hard.
10:13:41 syv: And I imagine there's tools to make the actual sprite replacement trivial.
10:22:08 syv: This looks nontrivial to do. :(
10:22:57 syv: It would actually be easier for me to make a pokemon mod for Running with Rifles. Comes to think of it, why isn't that
a thing?
10:22:59 Devastator: Yeah, it's not that trivial.
10:23:09 Devastator: you need to encode said sprites, for instance.
10:24:05 Devastator: can you reassure me that Alida has more than three turns of soul left?
10:26:50 syv: Alide could witch herself within three turns, but I don't expect her to.
10:32:32 Devastator: Upkeep cost for painless and three minor costs for close combat.
10:33:45 Devastator: "Our motto: Kill ethically."
10:35:05 Devastator: the evil military corporation.
10:36:23 Devastator: Also, since I don't have any expensive powers, that means she'll be witched for CCing three turns straight.
10:36:29 syv: I'd trust
a company who said that.
10:36:40 Devastator: Thanks for the game then.
10:36:50 syv: But that I don't expect her to CC for three turns straight.
10:37:05 syv: How about this: I expect her to survive the labyrinth.
10:37:22 Devastator: How? Nakéen won't save her, and I'm in
a case where it's use powers or die.
10:37:27 syv: But I could also see her not. It's about 7:3 odds.
10:37:45 Devastator: Well, guess you're going to find out, then.
10:37:49 syv: It's what I think. Could be wrong.
10:37:59 Devastator: I'm going to kill her if she doesn't save us.
10:38:19 syv: If she dies, Egan gets into the game. If two people die, I see anyone else is interested. Maybe
Paris, maybe Creeper.
10:38:29 Devastator: That's why I wanted to know how strong berzerker made someone, to see if I could pop her head without CC.
10:38:51 Devastator: Yeah. Sadly, she can go into combat, but she can't save her friends.
10:39:14 syv: I think Asha only has one or maybe two friends here, really.
10:39:26 Devastator: also, if it's three minors to dead, how the hell would I use Vengeance to not die?
10:39:51 syv: Alida certainly isn't her friend, and Mina is too dazed to form relationships.
10:40:04 Devastator: I don't have to be not her friend.
10:40:14 Devastator: All I need her to do is not act like
a load.
10:40:16 syv: Clearly you'd minor + minor bet, then still have three.
10:40:29 syv: She's not
a load if she doesn't exist~
10:40:44 Devastator: yeah, minor + minor - minor, for the actual kill, and die before the bet pays off, if it doesn't fail.
10:41:10 syv: Not much of
a gambler, are you?
10:41:24 syv: Eh. To be fair, Sayaka wasn't much of one, either.
10:41:28 Devastator: Well, if's fail if you lose, fail if you win.
10:41:35 Devastator: You win, you die. You lose, you die.
10:41:48 syv: Yup. Win or lose, suffering is constant.
10:42:03 Devastator: I don't see how it can be
a good power.
10:42:18 syv: That's because you're blind.
10:42:37 Devastator: well, admittedly you only pay if you lose, so there's no base cost.
10:42:57 Devastator: but it's gain minor for
a minor if you win and it doesn't fail.
10:43:07 Devastator: only worth it if you can bet enough to not qualify for the power.
10:43:15 Devastator: bet more than you have.
10:43:26 syv: So it makes guaranteed actions free, most of the time.
10:43:45 Devastator: It's not guaranteed in your combat system.
10:44:11 Devastator: Whiff
a bravery, which happens at least one in four times, plus the failure chance.
10:44:39 Devastator: betting more than you have would do it, though.
10:44:53 Devastator: bet
a major when you don't have it, and earn it back would be good.
10:45:15 syv: Ahh, I see, I forgot that my system has
a 25% failure chance for the stat level that's meant to virtually guarantee things. I better go fix that!
10:45:37 syv: ...Wait, no, looking at this code, the chances seem to be as I intended. HUH.
10:46:07 syv: Anyway, there's ways to guarantee success. You're just bad at working with others.
10:46:52 Devastator: Also very effing difficult to work with others who post once per orders period.
10:47:38 syv: Eh, you're still just bad at working with people.
10:47:44 Devastator: Well, yes, that's true.
10:47:48 Devastator: at least on the internet.
10:47:55 syv: Very aggressive, and not very good at asking nicely. Or being persuasive in general.
10:48:55 Devastator: Ahh, no point in asking nicely.
10:49:02 Devastator: that doesn't work either.
10:49:36 syv: I will sure to format all requests I make of you as demands, in the future~
10:49:41 Devastator: Well, that's not quite true.
10:49:54 Devastator: it works nicely with some people, some of the time.
10:50:41 Devastator: People who take requests made nicely well.
10:51:10 syv: Truly, your wit and understanding astounds me.
10:52:09 Devastator: Because nice requests are ones the recipient thinks are nice.
10:52:29 syv: Nibbling your lower lip and honking while you roll your eyes up in your head and doing
a little jig works nicely with some people, some of the time.
10:53:24 syv: You maaay have an empathy issue if you find it difficult to figure out what requests certain people will find "nice".
10:54:17 Devastator: I had
a guy threaten to punch me in the face last week because I talked back when he insulted the rest of the crew by telling us how lucky we were to have easy jobs for people who aren't as good as him.
10:54:19 syv: Then again, sociopaths are actually pretty good at that too, so I don't know what your problem would be. Certainly can't be *too much* empathy. I know you too well for thar.
10:54:40 syv: Well yeah. That wasn't being nice to him.
10:54:45 Devastator: I'm sure asking that guy nicely would have worked.
10:54:50 Devastator: He totally wouldn't have been an asshole.
10:54:50 syv: That wasn't even trying to be nice to him.
10:55:33 syv: What did you even want from him?
10:56:04 Devastator: I wanted to know if he was a bully or
a psychopath.
10:56:12 Devastator: Found out he was
a bully.
10:57:42 syv: Also, kinda unperceptive od you, because if he were doing that as a psychopath, he'd still be
a bully, and threatening to punch you didn't dispel the possibility of psychopathy either.
10:57:55 Devastator: It was the way he threatened it that told me.
10:58:33 Devastator: besides, an actual psychopath might have actually thrown
a punch.
10:59:08 syv: I do like how your example of why being nice isn't helpful is an anecdote of you picking a fight for
a trivial reason, though.
10:59:17 syv: But so could
a non-psychopath.
10:59:34 Devastator: Nah, bullies mostly just talk big. I didn't say much at all.
10:59:40 syv: Unless your definition of "psychopath" is a guy who'd throw
a punch, in which case I guess you win.
11:00:10 syv: Psychopaths can't be bullies?
11:02:53 syv: Doesn't seem tricky to me.
11:03:18 Devastator: I suppose, but I'm not sure. Bullies usually want validation, while psychopaths don't care.
11:04:35 syv: Psychopaths care! They just don't care about *other* people. Assuming we're using the definition of "lacking empathy", which is informal and not necessarily correct.
11:05:09 Devastator: Yeah, that's probably right.
11:05:16 syv: Bullies, when seeking their validation, still don't much care about other people. The word just has more connotations of cowardice and fakery.
11:05:30 Devastator: Quite
a lot of them are cowards, though.
11:06:16 syv: But I bet if
a bully is pushed into hurting someone, they don't care much more for the victim than the psychopath. And the psychopath could get the same thrill out of it.
11:06:17 Devastator: I suppose I should back off, though.
11:06:35 Devastator: That's true enough.
11:07:07 Devastator: You did make
a good argument.
11:08:05 Devastator: Now if you excuse me, I need to go back to my weekend job of caring for the elderly..
11:09:04 Devastator: Nah, I'm good for
a while yet. I'll be ther elater.
11:09:19 syv: I need to get back to my... uhh. Huh. Reading stupid internet things, I guess.
11:09:22 Devastator: around 2 in the afternoon.
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18:40:42 parisbre56:
Dev, you're the most useful in the magical girl squad. Don't die. Grab one of their soul gems and eat it if you have to.
18:43:04 parisbre56: Or maybe use vengeance on one of the humans milling about.
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19:31:55 Devastator: I don't have vengeance.
19:32:01 Devastator: or know that they're humans.
19:32:08 Devastator: but thanks for the tip.
19:50:38 Devastator: (Also, I don't think she would eat someone's soul gem.
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