00:18:41 ER: the bone zone has resulted in Irony writing a... thing.
00:18:58 ER: To be honest, I haven't read it yet but I know it's terrible.
00:23:00 syv: I presume it is inaccessible to those outside the discord?
00:23:24 syv: I'm curious, though I'm sure I'll be disappointed.
00:23:25 ER: cael made a nice pastebin link
00:29:36 syv: Yup. That is just boring. It takes the worst parts of... all the worst genres, and then tries but fails to parody them, ending up reading like a rebellious teen's incompetent attempt to be transgressive.
00:30:22 ER: Well, it's not supposed to be parody so much as low-effort following up on a dare.
00:30:59 syv: Every time I hear about the culture of that Discord, it reaffirms my confidence that I hate everything about it.
00:33:34 ER: permission to quote you,
syv?~
00:35:20 ER: We also set up a subchannel over there to write a similarly shitty story by taking turns writing paragraphs.
00:40:22 ER: Good, because I'd be too embarassed to show it to you, having written some of the worst stuff.
00:43:19 syv: Though honestly I'd still be pretty damn surprised if your "worst" was all that bad.
00:43:47 ER: Yeah, I'm still fairly tame.
00:44:14 syv: Guess your secrets are safe, then.
00:44:45 ER: in fact, maybe the things I wrote are far from the worst over there...
00:45:26 ER: The point is that not all that I stuck over there is exactly elegant or respectable. :V
00:46:02 syv: I'd assume none of it is. Isn't that the point?
00:46:57 ER: Um. I find room to be very slightly proud.
00:47:26 syv: That's kinda sad, won't lie.
00:49:59 ER: I mean, you don't like the drider game, so maybe we should just admit that your standards are elfier than mine.
00:50:52 syv: I also really enjoy hating things.
00:51:17 syv: Life is more fun when "mediocre" is ripe for ridicule.
00:52:11 ER: I find my fun in simply enjoying the mediocre, on like 0.5 layers of irony.
00:52:51 syv: I enjoy mediocre things! I just spend most of the time ridiculing it.
00:59:53 syv: Hatred is empowering, no weakening.
01:00:32 ER: what are you, some kind of extrovert?
01:00:59 ER: Naturally, summoning the energy to hate something properly is painful.
01:01:38 syv: I think you're just naturally nicer than me. I have to summon energy to *not* hate things.
01:02:06 syv: And I'm only extroverted when I'm attacking people.
01:15:17 ER: oh yeah, blorble, that sudden renewed desire to run Denature.
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01:18:18 syv: Denature is fun and creative. I wouldn't complain if you ran it.
01:18:36 ER: What would you complain about if I ran?
01:18:51 syv: Anything sourced from the Bone Zone?
01:19:09 ER: I'll take this into consideration.
01:19:17 syv: Anything taking place into the universe of
ER.
01:19:41 syv: Anything which takes place in any of a myriad of universes I hate, such as RWBY.
01:20:07 syv: There's really a lot of stuff you could make which I would hate, you just don't tend to like those things, by some strange coincidence.
01:20:50 syv: Anyway, maybe you should run Denature as an SG, and discard the splitting mechanic?
01:21:42 ER: How would non-splitting fleshhorrors work, exactly?
01:21:44 syv: It would simpler to run, and would be good practice. Plus Denature naturally lends itself to a short-durstion SG, since it has a tendency to rapidly explode into "The world is now a fleshorror."
01:22:10 syv: So even if there's separate bodies, they've the same mind.
01:22:31 syv: Alternatively, ban splitting. Invent some random reason that any flesh split away dies.
01:23:32 ER: Flesh split away from what, though? It's an amorphous creature.
01:24:11 syv: Give it a central mass which contains its mind, and which it can't alter.
01:24:36 ER: That's no fleshhorror, that's a fleshbender. :P
01:25:14 syv: Then make an SG about a fleshbender. Or a psychic fleshorror hivemind.
01:27:22 ER: b- b- but that's not denature.
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01:31:24 MidJag: Heh, I think at this point I'm about as rare as my namesake "P
01:34:23 ER: i look away for a second and you silly bugs are already posting random symbols~
01:39:57 syv: How long will you be here,
MJ?
01:39:58 MidJag: I did indeed, because I type about as well as I write and I'm pre med. :P
01:40:29 MidJag: I might be back later tonight though.
01:40:43 syv: Okay. Did you download the other episodes of Final Space yet?
01:41:08 MidJag: Not yet, this is the first time this week I've had a non negligable amount of free time.
01:41:19 MidJag: I'll do it now actually
01:46:14 syv: Also, look at the laptop afterward.
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02:05:12 sy: Mmm yes, it's never a good sign when the entire screen is just filled up with my own quits and joins.
02:05:34 ER: that's the entire screen for you?
02:06:48 syv: I get a lot more than just "quit" and "join", since Darkmyst also sends a bunch of greating messages, and there's four lines for joining #einsteinianroulette itself.
02:07:14 syv: Counted, I have 26 lines displayed at once while in portrait mode.
02:09:23 MidJag: I have like 4 lines of you leaving and join
02:09:56 syv: Yes, because you don't get all the greeting and disconnection messages.
02:10:19 ER: All that shit shows up on a sperate tab for me
02:13:22 MidJag: I don't get any greeting message from my client.
02:13:46 MidJag: ALl buisness, just like me :P
02:58:58 syv: Anyone have any idea when
Devastator will appear?
02:59:28 ER: a wizard is never late, he shows up presisely when he intends to
03:00:17 syv: Anyone have any idea when
Devastator intends to show up?
03:46:16 ER: which is a good name for a game
03:48:39 ER: just finished the tutorial. I'm a fan of the presentation and the plot seems like it could be interesting, but the gameplay is... a little more questionable.
03:49:19 ER: It clearly wants to be cyberpunk hotline miami, but it's a little imprecise.
03:52:30 ER: it's WASD, but W isn't towards the top of the screen.
03:52:49 ER: it's like... sorta isometric?
03:53:33 ER: It's not an unsatisfying game, but it defies my reflexes.
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04:31:13 MidJag: Hmm, I guess I'm actually still around.
04:32:31 ER: but yeah, this is a game in which you murder a bunch of things at the behest of a hacker who seems to have hacked your brain, and who calls you "puppy"
04:37:52 MidJag: Hmm, well I can watch something?
04:41:41 MidJag: Cool, I shall sound the traditional gator and moose horns to attempt to summon
syv and
dev.
04:43:30 syv: And gaaah, I've once again procrastinated for hours about updating.
04:43:41 syv: I blame
Devastator, this time.
04:45:02 MidJag: I'm going to lie and say I'm just trying to mimic the pronunciation of a laugh.
04:52:40 syv: Yeaaah, that would be entirely comfortable with me if you two just watched that while I try and write.
04:54:10 syv: I could watch something if you'd prefer, I'd just feel guiltier.
04:54:58 ER: final space is fine, but me wanna watch them other things too
04:56:05 syv: I only have three half actions, I might be done within an hour.
04:56:47 MidJag: I'm currently way too tired to really feel comftorable watching the new stuff, since I would actually want to watch them when I'll be a bit cognizent of them
04:56:48 syv: KM made his action "Can Tooru see a way to reach the ceiling?" when there's a very obvious method to climb to the ceiling.
04:57:28 syv: Should I have Tooru start climbing...? Or just say "Well, you could prolly climb the one thing that's climbable."
04:57:57 ER: Tooru could probably just jump up there. :P
04:58:10 syv: She can't jump four stories in one leap.
04:58:29 ER: what kind of game are you running, then.
04:58:56 syv: Ahe needs to put another point in mobility if she wants to pull stuff like that.
04:59:20 MidJag: Just tell her to roll daemonism and explode :P
04:59:26 ER: did I end up grabbing mobility 3 myself?
05:00:06 ER: I don't want to climb things like a peasant, I want to soar!
05:00:23 syv: Should've been a creative, then.
05:01:10 syv: No, Sophia still has Mobility I. You were going to put a point in it at first, but then changed your mind.
05:01:29 syv: Well then, you need to hunt down and kill a Creative's witch.
05:02:06 ER: I need to murder so many witches.
05:03:10 syv: Sadly, neither Sharon nor Hannah are Creatives. You could take out Mina, though.
05:03:33 syv: Shoot her in the soul so you can eat her memories and gain her powers.
05:03:54 ER: yeah sure, just make more problems for myself.
05:04:39 syv: Lemme check what was said.
05:05:32 ER: I'm pretty sure that Isabella ate Sharon, and then I ate her by proxy of eating Isabella.
05:05:58 ER: Don't know shit about what happened to Hannah though.
05:06:39 MidJag: ....so is
ER playing a witch?
05:06:54 syv: Yeah, Sharon's status was stated in the second memory of the first spoiler.
05:07:17 syv: "Even though she's dead now,"
05:07:41 MidJag: Ah, well don't go back salem then :P
05:07:44 ER: Presumably that means dead and actually dead dead.
05:08:11 syv: No,
MJ. Witches eat people, not magical girls. Magical girls eat witches, and once they get too fat, they turn into witches, and completely lose control, eating all the humans like so many candies.
05:09:17 ER: well i wanna be the hunter, not the hunted
05:10:00 MidJag: Ah, so unlike PM3 where when they starve they, in this one they die from too much food.
05:10:39 ER: Not like starving will save us.
05:10:40 syv: (No, I was joking. Witches still occur when an MG runs out of soul.)
05:11:24 ER: It seems that you have a system where taking damage to the soul gem drains your soul charge?
05:11:49 ER: Meaning that getting shot can lead directly to becoming a witch.
05:15:13 ER: Which is very much not how that works in Refine. There the gem is just an object and if it gets smashed, you die.
05:15:43 ER: It it gets cracked or something, you don't die but probably will not have a good time of it.
05:17:26 MidJag: Heh, so therfore, I need to make a MG game where after a witch MG induced apocalypse, magical girls are just a thing that everyone just sorta lives with, and we will have completed the cycle :P
05:18:00 ER: Mine is already post-apocaliptic.
05:18:38 MidJag: Blast, so I'll need to move it waaaayy further into the apoclypse, during a period of regrowth :P
05:19:31 ER: There can be no regrowth. The fire fades.
05:22:45 ER: Well that's just because idiots can just make wishes that split off a new universe
05:23:22 MidJag: You can't die forever, no matter how much you want to. :P
05:24:36 syv: That reminds me of a long story I've wanted to write for years, which is basically a what-if about reincarnation being true, and there being a very finite amount of souls.
05:25:13 MidJag: So at a certain point babies just start being born soulless? Like they're all brain dead or something?
05:25:24 syv: Also, fully simulated human brains being created, which upon being run, have a soul reincarnated into them.
05:26:36 syv: Most souls slowly degrade and break apart into their component pieces after a few years in the soul soup, and new souls are created by remixing the loose pieces. As souls get scarcer, people are reincarnated missing pieces, which manifests in mental disorders.
05:27:41 syv: Also, if a soul is reincarnated before being broken down, it retains much of its self, and its memories. Under normal circumstances, this usually only happens with a few pieces, with most of the mind being random, which is why some humans remember small fragments of a previous life.
05:28:13 syv: But if you've only been dead for a few days, you're likely only missing one or two pieces, and will be fully yourself, just with a random segment of your mind gone.
05:29:02 syv: And even if you're reincarnated immediately, it's possible to lose fragments, which you'll never get back.
05:31:58 ER: hehe, reminds me somewhat of Unsounded
05:36:05 syv: Well, yes, it resembles any setting where reincarnation exists. I suppose Unsounded also details the breakdown in the same way. The story would focus upon how society deals with souls all being alive at once, and the consequences, though. No new humans are born, all babies are soulless (but not unalive, simply nonsapient), most religions have been directly proven wrong, and AI (which are very useful, and near impossible to
05:41:05 syv: Okay, do you want to just watch AoT? I clearly can't write write now, not tired enough.
05:41:30 MidJag: uhhhh, that would probably be better for like tommorow
05:42:05 ER: in that case, you'd better actually be here ti watch it.
05:43:50 MidJag: I will be, I have no plans for saturday beyond studying
05:45:02 MidJag:
Er want to do one episode of FS
05:49:07 MidJag: Wait, it might have been 4
05:49:15 MidJag: Did we see the AI get hijacked?
05:50:46 MidJag: wait, because this happens every time, lets go on 0
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05:52:44 ER: that's all I can summon to say about the show
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05:54:17 ER: ...there have only four fingers
05:55:08 MidJag: yup, I think theres something about animation that makes it easier to 4 fingers rather than 5 because everyone seems to do it.
05:55:21 MidJag: I like this episode, some solid parts
05:56:21 syv: It requires more detail to fit four fingers into a handwidth, and I think comes across as being further into the uncanny valley if simplified to
a similar extent.
05:56:40 MidJag: If avacodo was the main character this would be one of my favorite shows.
05:56:57 syv: If Avacado was the main character I'd like the show. :P
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05:58:02 syv: Are you a rubber potato,
a?
05:58:09 syv: Because you're awfully bouncy.
06:00:06 ER: ...so his guns didn't shrink, except they did
06:00:20 MidJag: I guess his long arms shrank
06:01:22 MidJag: I question the physics but respect the styel
06:03:49 MidJag: man, that spelling is on my level :P
06:05:12 MidJag: heh, I do like avacodo bottle head
06:05:44 MidJag: can't argue with that statment
06:06:50 ER: inexplicably won that gunfight
06:07:07 MidJag: Apperentlly the old guy is just
a badass.
06:09:25 MidJag: Eh, I can't argue with that, but it is entertaining.
06:09:46 MidJag: Also, damn mooncake is freaking OP.
06:12:50 ER: you can't expect me to respect your pathos when you constantly tell the dumbest possible jokes.
06:13:54 MidJag: You just have to utterlly turn off your mind and just sorta go with it.
06:21:18 MidJag: Their suits are pretty good looking
06:22:02 MidJag: when you'r iron raining through
a storm you have to have guitar
06:25:53 ER: probably need to stick together when walking into
a trap
06:30:44 MidJag: I do like just how trippy this is.
06:36:16 MidJag: I don't know how he didn't notice that before
06:37:03 MidJag: I was legit suprised that happened
06:37:16 ER: That had better be for real
06:37:36 MidJag: You fine with
a spoiler?
06:41:15 ER: on the one hand, nice, something happened, on the other hand, oh you killed off the best character huh.
06:43:26 MidJag: That was pretty much my thinking as well
06:43:53 ER: leaving behind... all the joke characters.
06:44:09 MidJag: Avacados son isn't as much of
a joke charecter
06:46:18 syv: Is the woman
a joke character?
06:46:42 MidJag: She's much more of
a straight man
06:46:46 ER: she's a mary sue by virtue of almost having
a brain
06:46:57 syv: Also, I have trouble seeing how the TALKING CAT PERSON named AVACADO is not
a joke character.
06:49:17 MidJag: Alright, one more and then I am actuall 100 percent done for the night I swear.
06:49:53 syv: Goodnight to both of you, then.
06:49:57 MidJag: Alright, that's probably smarter.
06:50:06 syv: Egan, I'll try and work on Sophia after I update PS.
06:50:13 syv: Mostly saying that to force myself...
06:50:22 MidJag: Also, what happened to
paris?
06:50:39 ER: well, we're still getting logs
06:50:58 ER: guess we're getting logged by "guest"
06:51:14 syv: Maybe the bot's configuration was screwed or something, I'unno. Or maybe it was renamed by the server because it rejoined before it was kicked.
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06:52:58 ER: yay, I'm going to turn into
a pile of goop and retire to me relaxation pool.
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22:00:02 ER: soul-weave vision stuff is interesting.
22:00:55 ER: And it certainly seems that Asha and Isabella saw it differently, if the same on
a general level.
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23:41:41 syv: I was trying to have different characters perceive the same thing differently, with their own bent.
23:42:43 ER: Wonder if that view is
a default thing like telepathy, or something tied to mercy powers.
23:43:03 syv: Asha has a totem/theme of ribbons, so she sees souls as a weave. Isabella has a totem/theme of chains, so she sees chains instead. If Alida had a mercy ability, she'd probably see souls as coral or something, since she has
a sea theme.
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23:44:08 Elastic_Ridicule: My net is strangly weak today
23:44:42 Elastic_Ridicule: [18:43] <
ER> I hope that I can access it due to having Triage.
23:45:49 Elastic_Ridicule: That should be interesting.
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23:47:12 syv:
MJ said he'll be on in an hour or two, while
Dev said he was having
a friend over, but would try and get on sometime.
23:47:41 syv: I did do some work on Sophia last night, but didn't complete it. There's
a LOT to do.
23:47:42 ER: Sophia will either see the chains, what with being
a bit heavy on the Isabella at the moment, or she'll see souls as abstract balls of misery.
23:48:11 syv: Chains strike me as
a pretty negative symbolism.
23:48:33 ER: But it's how she was introduced to the power.
23:49:07 syv: What's it saw about you if your soul is best symbolized by
a chained blade?
23:49:21 ER: I'm honestly a bit at
a loss as to what positive symbolism you have at your disposal re: Sophia.
23:49:23 syv is sad that Dev is likely the only person who can get that reference
23:49:45 syv: Freedom, domination, power. The shattering of chains.
23:50:00 syv: Oh wait I already used that one
23:51:09 ER: Freedom, domination, and power aren't literal symbols.
23:51:39 syv: Sophia does have
a dearth of visual symbols.
23:51:53 syv: Closest she has is weaponry, which is pretty general.
23:51:53 ER: Seeing
a pile of broken chain links would be funny
23:52:15 ER: everyone's soul made of guns
23:53:30 syv: After my heart, aren't you?
23:53:52 ER: Sasha is a little pocket pistol, Alida is
a big battle rifle.
23:54:09 ER: Healing them is clearing
a jam.
23:55:16 syv: By firing the gun into an enemy. Somehow.
23:55:23 syv: Remember, Sophia only has Triage.
23:58:01 ER: The descriptions of souls leads me to wonder if they're actually the seat of consiousness and mind, or just an apparatus for interacting with magic.
23:58:41 ER: ...which is similar to specualtion I read in unsounded's comments section
a bit ago? :V
23:59:12 syv: Damn it Unsounded, stop making it sound like I'm stealing from you.
23:59:48 syv: ...Also, what? Unsounded has
a comments section?
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